Tonight i did some detective work on web sites and found where bus operaters have to register any changes. The site is www.vosa.gov.uk The following is what I have found out....
Sevices to be withdrawn the current 13/14,22,33/34,38/39,56,83,85/86,93,m29
The following will have route and or timetable changes...
7,8/9,31/32,41,53,75/76,81/82,97/97a
The following are new routes to replace some of the above
12= City to Ranmoor via Crosspool
13/14 = Woodhouse to Wisewood/Loxley via City
20 = Hillsborough to Hemsworth
22 = Nether Edge to Wybourn
33 = Hillsborough to Norton Lees via Southy Green
43 = City to Jordanthorpe
85 = Firth Park to Fulwood
87 = Ecclesfield to Eccleshall via Hillsborough

WTF?! The 83 is being withdrawn?!

As if bus services in Stannington aren't bad enough! :mad:

on which part of the website did you find this information, need to see this for my own eyes

Based on whats on the vosa web site I am guessing that service 83 will be replaced with 81/81a
If to view the document here is how I found it
Go to www.vosa.gov.uk
Click on HGV & PSV operators
Then click Local Service registration
Then Fixed Route Bus Services a Page comes up,then go to Q&A 22 in the answer click on Notices & Proceedings
A new page comes up,Click on N&P - Nortth Eastern Traffic Area
Then click on N&P 1917 - 25th June to view this weeks Document.
The information is on Pages 10/32/33/41/42/43
An Interesting Web site to moniter First in the future for all bus watchers!!!!

from what i can gather from The Star the other night you'll still get to places that the withdrawn services did but the bus maybe numbered diffrently or is goin via another area......but what do i care i've got a car!!

what about 38 its the only one that passes my house! are they going to remove the bus stops too? not much point without busses

I'd like to know more about this new number 12 service....might be handy for getting to school?

If you live on a route where a bus services is to be withdrawn The chances are one of the new routes will replace it or an existing service will be rerouted over certain sections. Until First publish full details we can only guess from the available information I have found.

Meh, the 81/81a will only serve the Upper Malin Bridge/Lower Stannington areas to make up for the loss of the 82 which primarily serves the Estates down there at the moment :loopy:

Fat lot of good that is for those of us who live in proper Stannington (further up fhan the Sportsman) :mad:

For all those living in the Stannington Area Your revised bus service will be 81/81A/82 Stannington Nethergate To Bents Green Post Office

The SYPTE travel information centres today had a list of routes affected and sketchy details of what the changes were, although it was just a list for staff, so you can ask. No leaflets produced as yet.

Thanks for pointing out the vosa.gov.uk site - thats very useful to know about!

Originally posted by Rich
Meh, the 81/81a will only serve the Upper Malin Bridge/Lower Stannington areas to make up for the loss of the 82 which primarily serves the Estates down there at the moment :loopy:

Fat lot of good that is for those of us who live in proper Stannington (further up fhan the Sportsman) :mad:

Well i'm starting my driving lessons again in sight of this, it's bad enough at the minute without them screwing it up again.

I belive First is an international group of super villains that are planning to take over the world by getting everyone to start driving because of the bad services and pollute the atmosphere.

Quick! someone call Captain Planet....Go Planet!!!!

no wonder people wont get out of there cars with all this messing about

Originally posted by somertswrong
no wonder people wont get out of there cars with all this messing about

And that's what the Government aren't seeing when they bleat on about how people should use public transport and leave the car at home for the good of the environment, to ease congestion and all that business, which in theory is all well and good but when bus companies make retarded decisions like this, is it any wonder people are still using their cars?!

The 81/81A/82 is showing a change of route as well as timetable, maybe one of those will go further into Stannington in place of the 83?

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WITHDRAWN SERVICES

X7 Sheffield-Maltby
38/39 Hemsworth-Meadowhall
M29 Broomhall-Manor Park
33/34 Hemsworth-Shirecliffe/Hillsborough
85/86 Parson Cross-Fulwood
56 Sheffield-Wybourn
22 Southey Green-Nether Edge
13/14 Sheffield-Wisewood/Loxley
83 Ecclesall-Stannington
93 Firth Park-Woodhouse Cross

NEW SERVICES

87 Ecclesfield-Ecclesall via Hillsborough & City Centre
12 Sheffield-Ranmoor via Crosspool
13/14 Woodhouse-Wisewood/Loxley
20 Nether Edge-Wybourn
43 Sheffield-Jordanthorpe
85 Firth Park-Fulwood,Carterknowle via City Centre
33 Hillsborough-Norton Lees (Via Southey Green & City Centre)

TIMETABLE AND ROUTE CHANGES

49/49A Darnall-Parson Cross
97/97A Totley-Hillsborough
8/9 Meadowhall-Meadowhall
31/32 Sheffield-Hillsborough
29 Rotherham-Beighton
81/81A/82 Bents Green-Stannington
1/2/701/702 Sheffield-Hillsborough
7 Darnall-Shirecliffe

TIMETABLE CHANGES

X10 Barnsley-Sheffield
767 Worksop-Meadowhall
287/288/289/X7 Sheffield-Bawtry/Cedar Drive
75/76/776 Low Edges-High Green
130 Sheffield-rotherham
53 Low Edges-Parson Cross
123 Crystal Peaks-Walkley
41 Sheffield-Halfway
28 Killamarsh-Meadowhall

Originally posted by Andy C
The 81/81A/82 is showing a change of route as well as timetable, maybe one of those will go further into Stannington in place of the 83?

We already have a service that goes to to the top of Stannington, the problem has been the timetable. What they are doing is something that was tried a few years ago just with the 83. It served half of the 82 route from Deer park to Malin bridge and the 82 did Hall park head down Stannington road. Now it sounds like they are merging the two roots so there are fewer buses in all and a longer route.

Hooray for first which stands for

F***ers Intenet (on) Ruining Satisfactory Travel.

Hey not bad that, it only took 5 seconds to think of that:rolleyes: just shows how much I think of them;)

Originally posted by silverknight
Tonight i did some detective work on web sites and found where bus operaters have to register any changes. The site is www.vosa.gov.uk The following is what I have found

you really need to get out more

I did the detective work in the interest of public information as both First and the PTE are so slow at informing its customers.If I had not done it most Sheffielders wouldn't Know for at least another two weeks.

Originally posted by silverknight
I did the detective work in the interest of public information as both First and the PTE are so slow at informing its customers.If I had not done it most Sheffielders wouldn't Know for at least another two weeks.

horrar for our hero,what would we do without our caped crusader

:):):)

A summary of changes has now been posted on the SYPTE website:

http://www.sypte.co.uk/more/timechange/sheffield.html

And there is background information as to why the changes are being made on the First bus website.

July 2004

Here is an outline of the changes operators will make over the weekend of 24-26 July. These are subject to change and further services may be added before the implementation date. For more details call Traveline on 01709 515151 or visit a Transport Executive Travel Information Centre.

1: Sheffield-Longley-Firth Park service withdrawn.

1: new hourly daytime service operated by First links Sheffield, Heeley, Meersbrook, Norton Lees, Woodseats, Chancet Wood, Greenhill, Meadowhead, Batemoor, Jordanthorpe, Norton, Hemsworth, Herdings, Gleadless, Manor Top, Manor, Darnall, Carbrook, Meadowhall, Wincobank, Shiregreen, Sheffield Lane Top, Longley, Norwood, Shirecliffe (Herries Road) and Hillsborough.

2: Sheffield-Hillsborough service runs via Highfield (London Road/Abbeydale Road), no longer serves Broomhill, Crookes, Crosspool, Nether Green, Hunters Bar, Banner Cross or Ecclesall. See 12 & 702 for partial replacement. Morning bus to High Storrs School partially replaced by 701. Darnall-Carbrook buses run along Greenland Road/Broughton Lane, no longer serve Coleridge Road.

7: extended from Sheffield to Shirecliffe via Burngreave, Pitsmoor and Firshill estate.

8: links Sheffield, Burngreave, Grimesthorpe, Wincobank, Shiregreen, Firth Park, Longley, Norwood, Northern General Hospital, Pitsmoor, Upperthorpe, Crookesmoor, Broomhill, Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Hunters Bar, Sharrow, Nether Edge, Heeley, Meersbrook, Newfield Green, Arbourthorne, Norfolk Park, Manor Park, Wybourn, Attercliffe, Carbrook, Tinsley and Meadowhall. Buses run hourly except: daytime Mon-Fri, between Sheffield, Wincobank, Firth Park, Northern General Hospital and Royal Hallamshire Hospital buses run every 30 minutes; evening Mon-Fri/ all day Sat & Sun buses run every 30 minutes Sheffield-Wincobank.

9: Meadowhall-Heeley-Norwood-Meadowhall service withdrawn, replaced by changes to 8, new services B1 & B2.

12: new Mon-Sat hourly daytime service operated by First links Sheffield, Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Broomhill, Crookes (Lydgate Lane), Crosspool, Nether Green.

13: extended beyond Sheffield through to Woodhouse serving Wybourn, Manor Park, Manor, Richmond and Stradbroke.

14: re-routed to Loxley-Sheffield- Woodhouse serving Wybourn, Manor Park, Manor, Richmond and Stradbroke. Route between Sheffield, Heeley, Meersbrook, Norton Lees and Woodseats covered by new 1 & 33.

20: new daily service operated by First links Hillsborough, Wadsley Bridge, Southey Green, Longley, Norwood, Northern General Hospital, Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Sheffield, Highfield, Heeley, Norton Lees, Norton (Hemsworth Road) and Hemsworth.

22: service now links Nether Edge, Sheffield, Hyde Park and Wybourn. No longer serves Southey Green, Longley, Norwood, Pitsmoor or Burngreave; see 20.

27: Mon-Sat 17.08 Rotherham-Worksop terminates Harthill.

28: Mon-Fri 07.16 Handsworth-Killamarsh extended to Upperthorpe. New Mon-Fri 07.58 Meadowhall-Killamarsh introduced. Mon-Fri 16.23 Upperthorpe-Meadowhall starts Crystal Peaks.

29: Rotherham-Aston-Crystal Peaks-Beighton service. In Catcliffe buses run along Poplar Way to Morrisons/big W. Mon-Fri 09.22 Treeton-Rotherham replaced by 264.

31: no longer runs Hillsborough-Parson Cross. New services 33 & 87 and changes to 97 & 97A provide alternative (33 via Wordsworth Avenue/Donovan Road/Galsworthy Road; 87/ 97/ 97A via Parson Cross, Monteney Road/Colley Crescent/Colley Road, Holgate Avenue/Adlington Road).

32: evening/Sun journeys run Sheffield-Hillsborough only. New services 33 & 87 and changes to 97 & 97A provide alternative (33 via Wordsworth Avenue/Donovan Road/Galsworthy Road; 87/ 97/ 97A via Parson Cross, Monteney Road/Colley Crescent/Colley Road, Holgate Avenue/Adlington Road).

33: new half-hourly daytime (hourly evening & Sun) service operated by First links Hillsborough, Southey Green, Norwood, Shirecliffe (Shirecliffe Road), Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Heeley, Meersbrook and Norton Lees.
33: Shirecliffe-Sheffield-Hemsworth service withdrawn, replaced between Shirecliffe (Penrith Road) & Sheffield by changes to 7; between Shirecliffe (Shirecliffe Road) & Sheffield by new 33; and between Sheffield, (via Abbeydale Road) Woodseats (Scarsdale Road), Graves Park & Norton by 2. New 20 provides link between Pitsmoor, (via Scott Road) Burngreave, Sheffield, Heeley, (via Norton Lees Road) Norton Lees & (via Warminster Road) Hemsworth.

34: Shirecliffe-Sheffield-Hemsworth service withdrawn, replaced between Shirecliffe & Sheffield by 7 and between Pitsmoor, (via Scott Road) Burngreave, Sheffield, Heeley, Norton Lees & Hemsworth by 20.

38: Meadowhall-Sheffield-Jordanthorpe-Sheffield service withdrawn, replaced between Wincobank & Sheffield by 8; between Sheffield, Chancet Wood (via Woodseats), Jordanthorpe & Hemsworth by 1; and between Jordanthorpe, Newfield Green and (via Myrtle Road) Sheffield by 43. New S1 and S2 will provide local Wincobank/Meadowhall links.

39: Meadowhall-Sheffield-Chancet Wood service withdrawn, replaced between Firth Park, Wincobank & Sheffield by 8; and between Sheffield & Chancet Wood by 1. Services 85 & 86 links Firth Park, Wincobank, Meadowhall.

41: changes to Mon-Fri/Sat daytime.

43: new hourly Mon-Fri/Sat & Sun service operated by First links Sheffield, Newfield Green, Hemsworth, Norton and Jordanthorpe. Between Sheffield & Newfield Green buses run along Queens Road, Myrtle Road, Erskine Road, Hallyburton Road & Lichford Road.

49: no longer operates Sheffield-Parson Cross, continues between Sheffield, Meersbrook and Herdings every 15 minutes daytime Mon-Sat.

49A: Herdings-Sheffield-Parson Cross service withdrawn, partially replaced Herdings-Sheffield by 49.

52: changes Mon-Fri daytime.

53: changes Mon-Fri/Sat & Sun evening timetables. Later buses Sheffield to Bradway at 23.40 & Ecclesfield at 23.45.

56: Sheffield-Wybourn service withdrawn, replaced by 22.

59: Sheffield-Ecclesall-Gleadless-Meadowhall-Hillsborough service withdrawn, partially replaced by 1.

60: changes Mon-Fri daytime.

66: Hillsborough-Stannington-Storrs Storrs TaxiBus withdrawn, partially replaced by 266 & 267.

75: Mon-Fri buses every 12 minutes. 76: Mon-Fri buses every 12 minutes.

81: Sheffield-Ringinglow renumbered to 84.

81: new daytime Mon-Sat service operated by First links Stannington (Nethergate), Hillsborough, Sheffield, Hunters Bar, Banner Cross, Ecclesall and Bents Green (some Mon-Fri peak-time journeys serve Dungworth).

81A: new daytime Mon-Sat service operated by First links Stannington (Nethergate / Acorn Drive), Hillsborough, Sheffield, Hunters Bar, Banner Cross, Ecclesall and Bents Green.

82: Mon-Fri/Sat early morning/evening & Sun journeys extended in Stannington from Hall Park Hill to serve Oldfield Road/Oldfield Terrace/Uppergate Road/Nethergate. Mon-Fri/Sat daytime journeys terminate Ecclesall, revised 81 & new 81A buses to Bents Green.

83: Dungworth-Stannington-Sheffield-Ecclesall service withdrawn, replaced between Dungworth, Stannington, Sheffield & Hunters Bar by 81 & changes to 82; and between Hillsborough, Sheffield, Greystones & Ecclesall by 87.

83A: Stannington-Sheffield-Ecclesall service withdrawn, replaced between Dungworth, Stannington, Sheffield & Hunters Bar by 81 & changes to 82; and between Hillsborough, Sheffield, Greystones & Ecclesall by 87.

84: Sheffield-Ringinglow service renumbered from 81 (no changes).

85: re-routed to become Firth Park-Meadowhall-Sheffield-Ecclesall-Millhouses. Firth Park-Sheffield buses run via Wincobank, Brightside, Grimesthorpe and Burngreave. In Millhouses, buses extend along Abbeydale Road to Tesco Park 'n' Ride. Ecclesfield, Hillsborough & Sheffield route covered by 87 (also serves Ecclesall Road & Hunters Bar).

86: re-routed to become FirthPark-Meadowhall-Sheffield-Ecclesall-Fulwood. Firth Park-Sheffield buses run via Wincobank (including Standon Road), Brightside, Grimesthorpe and Burngreave. Ecclesfield, Hillsborough & Sheffield route covered by 87 (also serves Ecclesall Road & Hunters Bar).

87: new daily service operated by First links Ecclesfield, Parson Cross, Wadsley Bridge, Hillsborough, Sheffield, Hunters Bar, Greystones and Ecclesall. 'Through' journeys beyond Ecclesfield as service 97 or 97A provide links for Parson Cross area between Yew Lane/Monteney Road & Northern General, and Colley Road/Colley Crescent & Hillsborough.
93: Firth Park-Meadowhall-Sheffield-Woodhouse service withdrawn, replaced between Firth Park & Sheffield by 85 & 86, between Sheffield & Woodhouse by 13 & 14.

97: extended from Parson Cross to Ecclesfield, no longer serves Wadsley Bridge or Hillsborough. 'Through' service 87 journeys beyond Ecclesfield provide links for Parson Cross area between Colley Road/Colley Crescent & Hillsborough, and Yew Lane/Monteney Road & Northern General.

97A: most First journeys terminate Southey Green, no longer serve Wadsley Bridge or Hillsborough. In Parson Cross, First buses no longer serve Remington Road or Margetson Crescent (journeys operated by Powells Bus Co unchanged). Some early morning/evening & Sun buses start from Ecclesfield, run as 'through' buses numbered 87 providing links for Parson Cross area between Hillsborough & Colley Crescent/Colley Road.

123: changes mean half-hourly Mon-Fri service.

130: changes to Mon-Fri/Sat early/mid evening Rotherham-Sheffield service. Sun 17.32 from Sheffield & 16.45 from Rotherham withdrawn.

201: route change in Deepcar. Stocksbridge-Meadowhall buses run from Wood Royd Road along Carr Road, St Margaret Avenue, Helliwell Lane and Carr Road.

264: changes affect evening & Sun services. New Mon-Fri journey at 09.22 Treeton-Rotherham. In Catcliffe buses extend along Poplar Way to Morrisons/big W.

266: new circular service operated generally every 2 hours Mon-Sat daytime by Sheffield Community Transport links Hillsborough, Malin Bridge, Stannington, Storrs, Loxley, Worrall & Middlewood (serving Wadsley Park Village).

267: new circular service operated generally every 2 hours Mon-Sat daytime by Sheffield Community Transport links Hillsborough, Middlewood (serving Wadsley Park Village), Worrall, Loxley, Storrs, Stannington & Malin Bridge.

287: Mon-Fri/Sat evening & Sun journeys no longer run Maltby-Bawtry. Mon-Fri 17.45 Sheffield-Maltby runs through to Bawtry. Sun daytime journeys no longer run via Oakwood or Rotherham General Hospital. Many journeys retimed.

303: Langsett-Hillsborough TaxiBus withdrawn.

304: Green Moor-Stocksbridge-Penistone TaxiBus withdrawn.

305: Penistone-Green Moor-Deepcar TaxiBus withdrawn.

701: new schooldays service operated by First provides morning bus to Norton College & High Storrs School, links Darnall, Manor Top, Gleadless, Herdings, Jordanthorpe, Woodseats and Ecclesall.

702: runs Mon-Fri peak periods & afternoon school times follows current route of 2 (except between Darnall/Carbrook which is via Broughton Lane). Operated by First.

767: changes throughout the day.

B1: new BurngreaveLink between Burngreave, Pitsmoor, Fir Vale, Northern General Hospital, Page Hall, Grimesthorpe, Carbrook, Tinsley & Meadowhall runs hourly daytime, Mon-Sat and operated by Sheffield Community Transport.

B2: new BurngreaveLink between Page Hall, Northern General Hospital, Fir Vale, Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Grimesthorpe, Carbrook, Tinsley & Meadowhall runs hourly daytime, Mon-Sat and operated by Sheffield Community Transport.

D1: new 'JobLink' between Burngreave, Hyde Park, Wybourn, Attercliffe, Darnall, Tinsley Park (Sheffield Business Park) and Catcliffe. Runs half-hourly Mon-Sat daytime.

S1: new 'BrightsideLink' service provides local links for the Shiregreen/Wincobank areas to the Northern General Hospital, Meadowhall and Carbrook. Runs hourly Mon-Sat daytime and operated by Sheffield Community Transport.

S2: new 'BrightsideLink' service provides local links for the Wincobank/Shiregreen areas to the Northern General Hospital, Meadowhall and Carbrook. Runs hourly Mon-Sat daytime and operated by Sheffield CommunityTransport.

X7: Yorkshire Terrier journeys withdrawn.

X10: Sun journeys withdrawn.

Note: Detailed 'Bus Guide' leaflets will be available from July 14 2004 (although availability will vary for specific services and between outlets).

The Monday morning after the changes is going to be fun!!!!

Originally posted by kirky
you really need to get out more

Not if you live at Stannington you can't. The bloody buses don't run properly.

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I did the detective work in the interest of public information as both First and the PTE are so slow at informing its customers.If I had not done it most Sheffielders wouldn't Know for at least another two weeks.

Silverknight I am sure that most people do appreciate what you do.

Not if you live at Stannington you can't. The bloody buses don't run properly.

Too right mate! :rant:

I wouldn't mind so much if I could drive but the sodding DVLA won't let me have a provisional license FFS! :rant:

We already have a service that goes to to the top of Stannington, the problem has been the timetable. What they are doing is something that was tried a few years ago just with the 83. It served half of the 82 route from Deer park to Malin bridge and the 82 did Hall park head down Stannington road. Now it sounds like they are merging the two roots so there are fewer buses in all and a longer route.

Hooray for first which stands for

F***ers Intenet (on) Ruining Satisfactory Travel.

Hey not bad that, it only took 5 seconds to think of that:rolleyes: just shows how much I think of them;)

First suck, come back SYT FFS! All is forgiven! At least they knew where the real Stannington is...

Too right mate! :rant:

I wouldn't mind so much if I could drive but the sodding DVLA won't let me have a provisional license FFS! :rant:
Genuinely curious as to why they wont give you a provisional license? Obviously if you don't want to answer, I'll respect that :)

Booyakasha Bondy!