My car was broken into about 2 weeks ago. First they send me a "Victim of Crime" letter and leaflet. The leaflet is meant to include details of the detective investigating my case, his/her phone number etc. but it was actually blank! Also, today I received some unsolicited mail from the Police offering me a discount on a Wheel lock! Well the thieves that smashed in to my car just wanted the stereo, so what's the use of a wheel lock?!

It doesn't say much for South Yorks police!

The police don't seem to have got things right at all.
I was walking through Hillsborough with my grandson and we
were stopped twice by the "truant police". My grandson was off school
quite legit.
They asked him for his name and address ,school and class.
They did not asked me for any about myself.
What if a child is with a person it should not be with?
I would think that the hard truants (who should be dealt with) would
hand around in gangs , not with their GRANNIES!!!

Is it something about Hillsborough. I was shopping last year with my 16 year old son. Leaving him with several carrier bags I went inside a boring shop (his term, not mine) only to return and find him surrounded by four rather threatening young men. Maternal instincts on full alert I waded in only to be shown their ID and told they believed him to be 'Joe Bloggs' as he was dressed similarly (typical youth attire-baggy jeans, Nike jacket and those hats that seemed sensible when they were five but wouldn't wear then) He produced ID, I produced ID, they checked our address and non existant criminal records, asked 'trick' questions of both of us e.g. ' what's your sons birthdate and what's your mum's maiden name?' . They then made him take of his hat and scrutinised him, then said 'ok you're not Joe Bloggs, but stop dressing like him' and walked away. A crowd had gathered so we got our act together and went home, my son was very embarrassed and later explained that he had felt quite frightened when he was initially approached by four 'thugs' who only revealed their identity when I approached. Any wonder the youth of today have no respect for the police?

Some time ago now, I was burgled twice within three weeks. The police officer who attended on both occasions was sympathetic and helpful...he told what pub to go to in order to buy back my stolen property.

The subsequent visit by a Crime Prevention Officer was extremely useful, his advice that we should not secure our belongings as " they only cause more damage" was particularly enlightening. We should not really be blaming South Yorkshire Police of course. They have to work to the guidelines they receieve from above and when the Lord Chancellor says that burglars should not go to prison, we can hardly expect the Police to expend resources on actually catching burglars.

The problems do not come from Snig Hill, they come from Whitehall and the Police are having to respond to the goal posts being moved on almost a daily basis.

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I can say loads of bad things with regards to South Yorkshire Police until I'm blue in the face. I've done my law abiding citizen duties and reported crimes expecting the police to respond and get the little b*****ds, but they have got me nowhere and the last laugh is usually with the little b*****ds as they carry on destroying property, stealing cos they are aware they have time on their side as there ain't enough plod to deal with such incidents.

I agree, the South Yorkshire police are only interested in catching speeding traffic. Easy money for them.
Just my 2 cents!

Same here.

I rang the police a couple of weeks ago about an underage driver on the estate where I live, I gave his name and his address. I was told they couldn't do anything unless I actually got the reg of the car.

They know who it is and if they had bothered to just drive around the estate for 30 mins they would have seen him. I suspect they are waiting until he seriously hurts or kills someone.

Also we are plagued by yobs/vandals/animals in the block of flats where I live, I have again given names to police, they are also captured on cctv committing acts of vandalism and again nothing has been done.

It's a joke, to be honest I am petrified about that state of this city/country. Yobs are running the streets and are being allowed to do so.

Last year some lowlife piece of **** who should have been smothered at birth and rendered down into pet food tried to steal my daughters mobile phone. She did the sensible thing and legged it unharmed.
Phoned the police who came out, took a statement, my daughter identified the man from their mug shot book and guess what, we will keep an eye on him sir!

Ha, said I. Is that it. :x

It wasn't worth pursuing as they would find it difficult to prove that he intended to steal the phone.

The lady PC wouldn't show me the guys picture.
I wonder why.

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I have found the police in sheffield, on the occasions that I have had to deal with them, exemplary and sympathetic.

But then I am not looking for retribution, so much as due process. Being a police officer is a job of work that is neither pleasant nor easy.

Speeding Kills. Burglary very rarely does. I tend to rate saving lives over saving property, much like the fire service. And yes, I have 3 Speeding points, and I paid my fine without complaint.

My £0.02.

Thanks for the reply spook1210.
I did agree with the PC that the likelyhood of a conviction was remote but they could have given him a tug and a talking to as you would have then at least he would have been aware that the police had their eye on him.
You never know but he might have thought twice about doing it again.

Also I couldn't care less about the phone, I was more concerned that my daughter could walk the streets of Sheffield safely in daylight without being attacked for a lump of plastic to pay for the next fix.



I am not looking for retribution either Phanerothyme, just the guy who attacked my daughter 8)

I hate police. They're all corrupt. If they make a mistake it will be covered up and nothing will come of it.

Don't get me started on this, let's just say I've had experiances.

Originally posted by Sidla
I hate police. They're all corrupt. If they make a mistake it will be covered up and nothing will come of it.

Don't get me started on this, let's just say I've had experiances.
do you have any solution in mind?

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We used to work near the m----r estate, had the shutter door rammed one night, alarm went off,we got there from stocksbridge before the cops who came from attercliffe, they said minimun response time was 20(count them) minutes, anywhere in the city limits, in 20 mins i could be in leeds ferchrissakes, what a joke it is sometimes

Perhaps because they were all chasing one (not stolen) Audi, or ferrying morons back to Doncaster because they missed their last bus and decided to walk up the Parkway with a baby......

ooh that reminds me of something I heard at work today. Don't know if its true or not or one of those urban myths:

A man sees some burglars in his shed and rings the police. They tell him that they cannot spare anyone as it is not an emergency since they aren't in his house.

He rings back five minutes later and tells them that it's ok as he has just shot one of them.

Two minutes later there are dozens of police there, armed response units, the lot.

When the police confront the home owner, they ask what the hell is going on, nobody has been shot.

The homeowner replies "Yes, and you said you couldn't spare anyone....."

Originally posted by alchresearch
ooh that reminds me of something I heard at work today. Don't know if its true or not or one of those urban myths:

A man sees some burglars in his shed and rings the police. They tell him that they cannot spare anyone as it is not an emergency since they aren't in his house......"

Interestingly - true (snopes report (http://www.snopes.com/crime/safety/response.htm))
But inadvisable, since deliberate false reporting of a serious crime will land you in hot water. And yes, shooting someone dead is on the face of it a more serious crime than breaking into a garden shed.

true story - last year the house next door was empty - some kids were breaking in and I let my dog out on them - it pinned one to the fence and the other two escaped over the fence. I rang the police after retrieving the dog - the kid ran off a lot paler than he was when he was trying to prise the door off. The police said I coulsdn't report the incident to them because it wasn't my property and advised I should report it to the council who would then report it. I did that....

I also wrote to the Star and got an interesting reply from SY Police apologising. However no one ever came from either the Police or Council and the door half hung off all winter and till the next spring when they came to make it fit for inhabitation again...

Makes you wonder....the message is clear, if it doesn't actually belong to you, keep your nose out!

Please remember that the police in South Yorkshire do not have enough officers, proof of this came to me as my mums murderer was found hanging from a tree by a member of the public and not uniformed officers.:(

The thing that got me annoyed the most that he was found only 10 mins away from the incident and his car 'reg plate' was supposed to be on a nationwide search:evil:. For those who know SHEFFIELD very wel the murder took place in 2001 near far lees pub and the guy was found 2 days after by The Bridge Inn by the ford in ridgeway.


I dont blame the officers on the look-out for him, but i do blame the Head of the investigation for not releasing any details on the person who did it or a photo of him, yet the Sheffield Star printed a photo of my mum and cut the assailant out.


Anyway even tho I went slightly off topic, please dont slag off the bobbies, blame their boss!

I can verify that the local constabulary are not worth paying the rates for.......Recently I actually caught some one breaking into my car ..I detained them until the police arrived...40 mins....This person was well known to the officers who arrived, they were on first name terms...the senior officer then said to the lad lets get you home....He recieved a free taxi ride in a patrol car...Probably looked good for all his mates....I was informed that no prosecution would take place because they could not prove he actually intended taking the vehicle.......some time later I saw the said person in the street ...he just started grinning....So I gave him a few well aimed blows.......It made me feel a lot better....Later I recieved a visit from the police as the lad had reported me for assualt.......It was then that I decided to play same system criminals use "it was not me officer I have'nt been out all day" !!!!!!..As there were no witnesses they could not prosecute .........Just goes to show does'nt it.

From a publican's point of view I have found the police to be governed by red tape. I had a pub which was raided by police as part of operation impact to try to find drugs on customers. Nothing was found. Word spread in the neighbourhood about the raid and we had all our windows smashed, car damaged and building grafittied because of this. The police did nothing. I complained to the highest level and the police in the lower ranks admitted that we should have been helped by the police to help pay for the damage and communication should have been better.

Other officers said we should have CCTV installed so these terrible criminals could have been caught. Not helpful.

The thing is, in a control issue pub, you don't raid it, you treat it sensitively. The raid caused so many problems it made matters worse. We left there eventually.....disillusioned by the lack of support from the police.

One team of officers said that we should call them all the time so the more calls they get, the more officers would be deployed to that area and they'd get more funding. One team of officers complained that we were calling all the time and then complained to the licensing police to say we were not managing the pub properly.

Communication among the police force is appalling. I resent paying Council tax to support them. Any problems in the pub now (and there are very very few....Classic Rock Bar is a different pub to the one I'm talking about above....tuxedoblue....) and we sort it out ourselves, no point ringing the police, they are hopeless and helpless.

And the point about the time it takes to get through on the switchboard, I would like to support. Very slow service.

the one occassion I have had to use Sheffield police, my girlfriend had seen someone acting suspiciously as she got home from work. We looked out , and saw the bloke climb through someone's ground floor window! Rang the police - on hold for ages, but once finally got through, they sent round at least 4 cars, with probably 8-10 officers - within a couple of minutes. Turned out he said it was his house, so they left - still no explanation why he had been climbing through his own window! so no complaints there on response time.

still makes me sick when you hear stories like here - of officers being on first name terms with crims, and giving them afree lift home.

if they were up in court on the 1st offence, not just given a stern ticking off and a license to do it again whenever they like.

this isn't to blame the police for it - it is probably more to do with the politicians, legal system, and paperwork.

Originally posted by SheffieldLive
Please remember that the police in South Yorkshire do not have enough officers, proof of this came to me as my mums murderer was found hanging from a tree by a member of the public and not uniformed officers.:(
Wow mate I am stunned!

Sorry to hear! :o

Originally posted by Classic Rock
From a publican's point of view I have found the police to be governed by red tape......(snip) tuxedoblue....)

Wow I remember that pub - used to live in Vincent Road and personally experienced the level of crime around there a few times with various cars/houses... scary place - did wonder who ran that place and what the clientel were like...

On topic - I recently stopped a gang of youths breaking into a neighbour's car at 4:30 outside my flat (which is what I believe to be in a 'good' area of town, but I guess all the more reason for criminals to come looking) - the SY police took 45 mins to arrive... I called them as the incident was taking place, but unfortunately, being 2 floors up, the kids escaped. I gave a description etc, and the officer left a note... can't imagine much came of that, but I really did think they'd turn up sooner and I'd be watching American-Stylee cop-handcuffing-kid-on-floor-in-struggle scenario.

Originally posted by SheffieldLive
Please remember that the police in South Yorkshire do not have enough officers, proof of this came to me as my mums murderer was found hanging from a tree by a member of the public and not uniformed officers.:(

The thing that got me annoyed the most that he was found only 10 mins away from the incident and his car 'reg plate' was supposed to be on a nationwide search:evil:. For those who know SHEFFIELD very wel the murder took place in 2001 near far lees pub and the guy was found 2 days after by The Bridge Inn by the ford in ridgeway.


I dont blame the officers on the look-out for him, but i do blame the Head of the investigation for not releasing any details on the person who did it or a photo of him, yet the Sheffield Star printed a photo of my mum and cut the assailant out.


Anyway even tho I went slightly off topic, please dont slag off the bobbies, blame their boss!

SheffieldLive,

I'm so so sorry to hear about this :(

Thinking of you, Pippa

Originally posted by spook1210
Thanks for that informed comment and thanks for labelling me as corrupt. It's comments like that that make you really glad to be serving the public.
Very clever. And a moderator too - sheesh.
Sorry to genralise, but in the past I've had a policeman try to pin my brother down for a crime that the police knew full well he didn't commit, just because the policeman in question made the mistake of not properly introducing himself.

My brother was cleared in court, and the magistrate even said that the policeman was in the wrong. However, when an official complaint was made against the policeman, the complaint was dismissed because the complaints authority said that the policeman conducted himself in the correct manner. Not even so much as an apology was given.

My brother was pulled over on Abbeydale Road a month ago by an unmarked car and two squad cars for a breath test, fair enough, it was around midnight, when the pubs of closed so in theory he could have been.

The female officer who was driving the unmarked car did all the talking and kept accusing him of drink driving before he had taken the test. Using phrases such as 'Yeah you look the sort' and 'I can smell it on your breath', my brother took the test and ironically enough was cleared.

Now heres the fun bit, my brother and his passenger felt a little aggrieved by the treatment from the female officer so they asked for her badge number, to which the male officer from one of the squad cars told him to 'shut up before I decide to charge you with something else.' He was then told that the police will be watching him from now on beacuse he 'looks the type who could get himself in bother', which my brother took as a thinly veiled threat.

My brother got all three number plates off the cars and reported it the next day, one month later, still no response.

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This comment is a little different to the others. Last night there was an incident outside my block of flats which resulted in a young girl calling the police, they never showed and for once I was so happy.

We have a major problem with kids in our area causing distruction to anything in their way, verbally abusing people, smashing bus stops, windows, setting fires, blowing up phone boxes etc...

Well last night some bloke must have finally flipped and it looks as though he punched one of these "girls" I say girls but with the way they act they are more like animals. Anyway they are screaming "I'm only effing 13" etc. They are shouting up to my block of flats "call the police please" I didn't,and nobody on my landing did, in the end they had to call them themselves, the police must think like us because they never showed.

I laughed to myself when I heard these girls disbelief that people had looked on and walked away and not bothered to call the police. All I can say is 1 down, only another 30+ to go.

On the few occasions I have had dealings with the SY Police they seem to be reasonable and done the job OK. Trouble is I think their job now is more about avoiding any claims/compliants than actually taking things forward. Big part is because of the red tape.

Did anyone see the repeat of Early Doors on Beeb 2 last night? Top show and I can't help thinking the 2 plods on there are not so rare in reality.

Originally posted by jayjay03
My brother got all three number plates off the cars and reported it the next day, one month later, still no response.
Doubt very much that you'll hear anything either, they like to cover these things up.

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What people need to remember is there is a chain of command. I guess there are a couple of bad eggs in the force, it is the same anywhere. But many are decent hard working folk - they wouldn't choose such a difficult career otherwise.

But the beat bobbies don't get a say in where they go, that's higher up the level.

Originally posted by spook1210
Well if all you can do is sit on your arse and whinge then more fool you. If and I stress if that is how you've been treated then pursue the complaint.
I am not condoning any of the aforementioned incidents but we are only hearing the posters version. Sidla, I used to be a student and thought I was open minded until I joined the job and then realised what a sheltered upbringing i'd had.
It's not nice when people regularly gob off at you but that's how it is. It's also understandable if not excusable if the old bill get a bit ratty with joe public sometimes.
The incident about the breath test does sound naughty i agree, I deal with people how I would like to be treated but not everyone's the same. There are cops out there who I wouldn't pass the time of day with but i'm sick of hearing that we're all corrupt fascists - sweeping generalisations help no one and are just a show of ignorance.

I accept that not all police will act in the ways of the afore-mentioned cases. You may well be one of the good guys. It's not the conduct of the majority of the police force that concerns me, it's the management system that concerns me.

In the previous case concerning my brother, he was told that none of the evidence from the court case was allowed to be considered when the complaint was investigated. This is daft, the magistrates (who are unbiased) even said that the poilceman concerned did wrong. However it was left up to an official police body (who are seemingly biased towards the police) to decide that the policeman in question did no wrong. You can't tell me that justice has been done? In fact I recently heard that the policeman concerned recieved promotion.

I could go into this further and say that whenever I'm home the police have started monitoring my movements more closely (maybe to try and pin something on me), but I'm not sure wether it's paranoia or not yet. I'm sure the police didn't use to follow me as much as they do now...

Before this whole incident our family used to speak highly of the police, but now we're all in the same frame of mind.

I'm sure the police didn't use to follow me as much as they do now...



Not sure I understand what you mean - why would they have been following you before all of this happened?

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Speeding Kills. Burglary very rarely does.

Very good point Phan! Motorists remember this next time you are caught speeding and are saying "I was only 2mph over the speed limit, why aren't the police catching real criminals, motorists are being persecuted, blah, blah, blah, zzzzzzz."

Speeding is against the law, burglary is against the law. Both are contemptible..........don't do it!

Originally posted by Siân
Not sure I understand what you mean - why would they have been following you before all of this happened?
They wern't, that's my point.

They won't be now either - they don't have the resources to follow the families of everyone who makes a complaint against an officer.

I wouldn't be so sure, I live in a small town where there is little crime. I would doubt there's anything better for them to do.

*grins* I spose it's true - just cos you're paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you ;)

what are the police doing about things that actually matter?
i have been arrested on quite a few occasions because the police man 'NEW' i was the one in a stolen car, even though i told him i had just been dropped off from coming back from milton keynes he said he was 99% sure it was me, oh it turned out it wasnt me but there was no apology, no letter saying sorry for the hassle of letting your parents know you were with the police????

but the real point is the kids, what are my legal standings if a gang of kids attacks a member of my family?can i attack them?because you will just arrest them then let them out in an hour, none of us in the area can phone the police because the kids have scanners (which i thought were illegal?)theres a white van that comes around selling drugs to them (which i thought was illegal) one of you police offficers had got out of the car to about 15 of them, then it looked like they surrounded him untill a cop van an car came up the street,i only wish my family had back-up like that, if they are willing to attack a man in uniform they will have no worry's about attacking anyone else.

there is so much i could say about your police force such as telling me to report my phone as lost when it was stolen?(trying to fiddle the numbers????0or when me and a friend found 2 little boys crying in the city centre at about 8pm, i tried to phone the police in sheffield and was put on hold,so dialling 999 because i thought it was an emergency i was told have i tried taking them to the local police station ???? come on little boys im going to take you to the police station (pf course you are,) then after 20 mins of him saying thier would be a car, none, some man came claimed he was thier granda and took them in his car, now if i hadve said im afraid i cant let you take the boys thier would have been a fight and i would have been locked up"

whats happnin to your city people?

Originally posted by tombodojoj
what are the police doing about things that actually matter?
i have been arrested on quite a few occasions because the police man 'NEW' i was the one in a stolen car, even though i told him i had just been dropped off from coming back from milton keynes he said he was 99% sure it was me, oh it turned out it wasnt me but there was no apology, no letter saying sorry for the hassle of letting your parents know you were with the police???? If you are unhappy with the way you have been treated by an officer then you are able to take his / her number and make a complaint against him / her. If it is found that you have been mistreated then action will be taken against the officer in question.

Originally posted by tombodojoj
but the real point is the kids, what are my legal standings if a gang of kids attacks a member of my family?can i attack them?because you will just arrest them then let them out in an hourIf a member of your family is assaulted then you should inform the Police. Attacking the people you believe to be the attackers would be a criminal offence in the exact same way their attack against your family member is.
Taking the law in to your own hands in a vigilante style is never an answer and may end up with you yourself facing prosecution.
You are permitted to come to the aid of someone being assualted if you witness this in progress. This doesn't mean you can 'attack' the attacker, but you may use reasonable force to stop the attack taking place. This is dodgey ground though, so in these situations it's better to let the Police handle it.

Originally posted by tombodojoj
none of us in the area can phone the police because the kids have scanners (which i thought were illegal?)Scanners are legal as long as they are used for legal activities. Listening to Police frequencies is not legal but is very hard to catch and prove.
The people in your area using scanners shouldn't stop you from calling the Police if a crime is taking place though. Unless you are using mobile or cordless telephones and the people with the scanners are monitoring all frequencies 24/7 then you shouldn't be at too great a risk of being listened in on.
You can also report crimes to the Police anonymously or via crime stoppers or at a Police station.

Originally posted by tombodojoj
theres a white van that comes around selling drugs to them (which i thought was illegal) This is illegal, but if the Police aren't made aware of this then they stand less chance of catching those responsible.
The best way to deal with this would be to take details of the van such as times of delivery, number plate, people involved etc. The more information the better. BUT BE CAREFUL!
If the Police are provided with this information they will take action which may lead to the arrest of the people involved or further investigation, which again would lead to their arrest.

Originally posted by tombodojoj
one of you police offficers had got out of the car to about 15 of them, then it looked like they surrounded him untill a cop van an car came up the street,i only wish my family had back-up like that, if they are willing to attack a man in uniform they will have no worry's about attacking anyone else.You ARE backed up like that. The Police are here for you as a member of the public just as much as they are here for their collegue in the situation you gave as an example.
It sounds like you are facing many troubles, caused by people who sound quite intimidating and dangerous, but the only way these people will be stopped is if people like yourself and the community around you work with the Police. If this happens the Police are a lot stronger and able to offer a better service to you and remove people like this from the street.

tombodojoj, you sound like you are angry with the Police because they appear to be failing you, but if you speak to them they will listen and help.:)

People will always complain when something is wrong and say nothing when things are going right.. that's human nature, and the reason everyone seems to be doing nothing but complaining :)

I know the feeling of powerlessness with the Police.. it's not just Sheffield's police force, it's the whole concept of the 'system', unfortunately.

Most bobbies are doing the best they can with the tools they've been given.


Still, knowing that doesn't make you feel any better when your mates get mugged/beaten up :(

People are always going to get mugged / beaten up. It is incumbent on us all not only to avoid overtly dangerous situations wherever possible, but to report any suspicious behaviour or crime to the Police ASAP to give them the opportunity to do something about it. They cannot work effectively in the vacuum that too many people leave them in.

3 threads merged since they're basically all about the same thing (South Yorkshire Police)...

Actually this goes for the entire police force of England who I imagine are pretty much the same as those in Sheffield, and with a start like that you just know the news is not going to be good.

What are they there for? What do they do? Well - I know what they do some of the time - but are they really as useless or powerless as they would have us believe? They cannot seem to do anything about shoplifters, violent crime, burglary, and so on.

Every single day I see at least half a dozen crimes taking place, either at work or while out. I see kids from the pub speeding about like they have a drunken deathwish - not a policeman in sight. I see gangs of youths bullying, vandalising, terrorising, drinking alcolhol, stealing, swearing, and generally behaving worse than animals - but no police.

I see a driver ahead of me following all the road signs and sticking to the law, but oops - he exceeds the limit by a few miles and gets a damned big fine courtesy of a speed camera - still not a policeman in sight.

Everyone I talk to has absolutely no faith in the police force whatsoever. And I mean everyone - yound to old, males and females. Every single person I speak to with no faith whatsoever in the Sheffield police - because they are never there. They are not there to see the mad motorist driving the wrong way on a main road. They are not there while a gang set about beating the hell out of a handicapped person. They are not where the crimes are, and that is damned difficult as there are crimes everywhere all the time.

You get burgled. You know who did it. You have a witness. The police find what is 99% likely to be your property in the posession of those accused, and what do they do - well nothing.

I despair.

Nosferatu
The Real Undead

As far as my experiences go, it's not the police who are the trouble.
The police must deal with so much cr*p every day, but however hard they work, they can't effect what's going to happen in the courts.

We had a bit of bother a couple of years ago, and a couple of bobbies came out and caught the skeffy, Lambert-smoking, logo-covered-cap-and-jogging-bottom-wearing idiot who was responsible for it, and took him away.

A month or so later he was due in court, we went to the hearing as we were due compensation for damage caused, and the skef didnt turn up.

So he didnt have to pay, we didnt get the compensation, the police work that night was a waste of time, and the guy is still out on the street.

The Police wont be so keen to race out to every car break-in or bus-stop vandalism, cos they know theres little chance of doing any good. It sucks when your on the receiving end of that sort of thing, yeah, but it's the way it is.

It's gotta be hard knowing that, as a copper, you do your job all day only to find that it's all in vain cos the scum you catch get away scot free when it gets to court.

The only people who should not like the police are the people who get into trouble with them. It's a shame that's not how people feel.


The only thing that I really hate is the constant attack on speeding motorists. Lets drop that revenue raising cr*p now eh?

Originally posted by Nosferatu
Actually this goes for the entire police force of England who I imagine are pretty much the same as those in Sheffield, and with a start like that you just know the news is not going to be good.

What are they there for? What do they do? ...

I despair.

Nosferatu
The Real Undead


The Police (and I am not one of their natural sympathisers) never, or rarely are credited with all they crime they do prevent.

Try getting rid of the police force if you believe them to be as futile as you say.

To my mind there should be two police forces. One responsible for policing, keeping the peace, and another one entirely as an investigative organisation with no powers of arrest.

Over the last 3 nights in our leafy tree lined suburb of parson cross we have had 3 cars nicked and one torched, the latter causing an explosion which shot a bolt through the windows of the house opposite(nothing new there i hear you cry,after all its the cross)
while the second and third car thefts were in progress,the good men and true of the street were trying to get the police to aprehend the culprits by giving commentary to them on the location of these chretins but to no avail.
the first car was located stripped out in wincobank by the owner, the second one is still missing(worth pointing out they used this one to cruise about locating the third one to nick) and where are the boys in blue? in hot pursuit? not likely, too busy checking tax discs no doubt in a safer area.
Dont get me wrong im not anti police, but when i go to collect my wife from work late at night,ive only travelled 100 yards before i get the blue flashing light treatment and the third degree about where ive been,what im doing where im going,and oh yes,the close examination of the tax disc,meanwhile your pulled up on the side of the road and half a dozen astras go screaming past overloaded with youths and broadcasting the latest rap tunes to the whole estate.it makes you wonder where the priorities lie.
over the last few months it has seemed to me that to prevent myself being delayed in the early hours of the morning i should deck my car with full body kit ,carlos fandango super wide wheels,do a couple of handbrake turns on the way and take my tax disc off,oh and maybe blagg a few houses en route then report it myself,one sure fire way of making sure theres no bobbies about.
getting stopped is a hazard of driving i accept that, but one week before christmas i was stopped 5 nights out of seven,two of those was by the same bloke.pity they werent as keen when it was stolen,never stopped it then did ya?
come on lads,give us a break we suffer enough living round here,we look to you give us some sort of security.
which has more points value, the untaxed car or the recovery of mrs bloggs posessions(with the arrest of the scumbags that burgled her)
have a nice day ya'll

Originally posted by Guest
My car was broken into about 2 weeks ago. First they send me a "Victim of Crime" letter and leaflet. The leaflet is meant to include details of the detective investigating my case, his/her phone number etc. but it was actually blank! Also, today I received some unsolicited mail from the Police offering me a discount on a Wheel lock! Well the thieves that smashed in to my car just wanted the stereo, so what's the use of a wheel lock?!

It doesn't say much for South Yorks police!

u use it to hit them with!