According to The Star today, the redesign of our Union Jack flag is being considered to incorporate the colour 'black' to represent our ethnic diversity. I don't know about you but I think this would be absolutely ridiculous! Political Correctness gone mad! The colours don't represent race at all. As far as I knew it was a mixture of the individual flags of countries in Great Britain. Then again, we don't have many BLUE people in this country do we, so blue people are over represented in our flag! UTTER NONSENSE. Things like this really annoy me. Its do gooders like this that increase racial tensions even further, and I bet most ethnic minorities also regard the idea as ridiculous.

:twisted: Just leave it alone no questions asked,the British have to have some national identity left

Ha ha how stupid. Theyre only colours, why change them? If anyones offended by red and white they must be very touchy. What about americas flag? Thats only got red, white and blue and they have black people too. What about nigeria, theirs is just plain green isnt it? How racist of them!

I meant don't add this "Union Jack flag is being considered to incorporate the colour 'black' to represent our ethnic diversity" why the hell should we

Much as part of me would like to see this happen if only to put a stop to that old racists chant of "there ain't no black in the union jack" I do think this is going much too far, and is quite ridiculous.

And have the words GIRO written on it across the center (ok that was a joke 8) )

This is the time for britain to say NO to the EEC,it has gone too far already,I for one will vote NO in a referendum.

Vote with your feet I say,first,to stop us going any further in,then,to get us out altogether,good for europe,bad for britain!

Its one of the worst ideas I have ever heard.

:D 8) :twisted:

Originally posted by "halevan"

This is the time for britain to say NO to the EEC,it has gone too far already,I for one will vote NO in a referendum.

Vote with your feet I say,first,to stop us going any further in,then,to get us out altogether,good for europe,bad for britain!
This is nothing to do with Europe - one *British* man has proposed a redsign of the UJ and some politicians have supported it, that's all.

Originally posted by "Jon"

:twisted: Just leave it alone no questions asked,the British have to have some national identity left
What is this mysterious British National Identity, were you all robots from the same defective manufacturing plant?

Good God you poor soulless creatures!

What is this mysterious British National Identity, were you all robots from the same defective manufacturing plant?

Good God you poor soulless creatures!

Please explain your point to that comment??

Moon Maiden

Originally posted by "Moon Maiden"

What is this mysterious British National Identity, were you all robots from the same defective manufacturing plant?

Good God you poor soulless creatures!

Please explain your point to that comment??

Moon Maiden
Every time I hear the term national identity it sounds like national insurance or national health. Like some kind of imprinting service for young children to stamp them with a British National Identity. But it will all break down if the Union Jack were to be altered as has been suggested by one bloke somewhere whose opinions don't matter.

Surely a national identity is simple - The UK. That is the identity of the nation.

As far as individuals are concerned, the idea of national identity is quite foreign (!) to me, and I can never understand what people mean by it, since all definitions I have heard differ wildly from rants about bulldogs to knowing ones place, fair play to rapist empire

Originally posted by "Phanerothyme"

:twisted: Just leave it alone no questions asked,the British have to have some national identity left
What is this mysterious British National Identity, were you all robots from the same defective manufacturing plant?

Good God you poor soulless creatures!


Why can't we have a sense of cultural identity and be proud of it!!!!

Ethnic minorities in this country, though happy to live here still retain their own cultural identity ie non wearing of crash helmets, eating meat killed an an inhumane way, being taught in their mother tongue etc etc. They are fiercely protective of their culture and identity. Why then when a white Brit talks of identity do some of you immediately start ranting RASCIST.

By the way could you ever see any of the middle eastern countries changing their national flags to represent Brits living there? I think not.

If this change happens, and I have heard that the suggestion is actually being considered by some in government, then it just proves what a spineless nation we have turned in to, too busy pampering to minority groups to realise that we are fast becoming the laughing stock of the world.

It is everything to do with europe, why should we even consider changing our union jack to bow to the whim of some idiots idea of hurting someones feelings.

Reminds me of something I read a few weeks ago, a muslim who lives on benefit in great britain publicly stated that he and other muslims were working towards making this country into a muslim state.

And they are not joking either!!!

Originally posted by "halevan"

It is everything to do with europe,
Ok, what exactly has this got to do with Europe? I can't see the connection at all.

Originally posted by "halevan"

It is everything to do with europe, why should we even consider changing our union jack to bow to the whim of some idiots idea of hurting someones feelings.

Reminds me of something I read a few weeks ago, a muslim who lives on benefit in great britain publicly stated that he and other muslims were working towards making this country into a muslim state.

And they are not joking either!!!

Yes, I saw that as well. It was stated by a mullah, Mohammed Rashid, in a mosque in Birmingham to a group of religious followers.

It was on Monday in Spooks.

So we redesign our flag to pander to someone who thinks we should include their colour, why? What for? will it benefit us ? of course not !!! forget it.

I have heard a whisper that the suggestion was put forward by members of the BNP to promote precisely this kind of reaction.

To help feed the racism that they enjoy exploiting

I do not know if that is true but the suggestion that it might be a BNP scam came from the MP in Burnley who has a few up there to deal with

Beware all you read in the newspapers except perhaps the football results

Sounds to me like people are falling into that well-known well of hysteria over something designed to promote just such a reaction.
It isn't true, it isn't going to happen, and it isn't worth wasting energy over. Time to start treating these ridiculous stories with the contempt they deserve.
Promote world peace - go outside and have a nice chat with your neighbours instead of listening to/ reading/ wailing about such stupid stories. :roll:

This story may have appeared in the star, but has singularly failed to surface elsewhere in the universe.

The nearest I could find was this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/galleryguide/0,6191,184380,00.html) with my favourite concoction being the chapman brothers rather lovely picture here (http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/General/Pictures/2000/01/04/face.gif)

So all you fervent nationalists out there getting your knickers in a tizzy about your favourite revered piece of cloth,

Don't Panic

Your lovely flag (you are flying the right way up aren't you?) is perfectly safe, although you should probably expect some corporate sponsorship logo to be added soon.

This is like the story of all EU gherkins having to be straight, or bonsai kittens or something, but to judge by the amount of drool flowing plenty of people have allowed themselves to be sucked into a tornado of self righteous indignation.

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as much changed since






.

God save the Queen!!

Nope, still lots of people believing everything they read in the papers and exclaiming how everything is changing to be more PC :)

Nope, still lots of people believing everything they read in the papers and exclaiming how everything is changing to be more PC :)

What does PC stand for??????

It is everything to do with europe, why should we even consider changing our union jack to bow to the whim of some idiots idea of hurting someones feelings.

Reminds me of something I read a few weeks ago, a muslim who lives on benefit in great britain publicly stated that he and other muslims were working towards making this country into a muslim state.

And they are not joking either!!!
and
Yes, I saw that as well. It was stated by a mullah, Mohammed Rashid, in a mosque in Birmingham to a group of religious followers.

and its not changed much there still building mosque after mosque but you cant say nowt without someone shouting racist :rant:

RACIST!! :rant:

What does PC stand for??????

political correctness

RACIST!! :rant:

thank you :D

thank you :D

But it's really nothing to be proud of...people like you are becoming a minority and before long a rarity!!

The kids of today a much more tolerable of ethnic minorities yet they will still fly the flag!

:)

But it's really nothing to be proud of...people like you are becoming a minority and before long a rarity!!

The kids of today a much more tolerable of ethnic minorities yet they will still fly the flag!

:)

we all are

According to The Star today, the redesign of our Union Jack flag is being considered to incorporate the colour 'black' to represent our ethnic diversity. I don't know about you but I think this would be absolutely ridiculous! Political Correctness gone mad! The colours don't represent race at all. As far as I knew it was a mixture of the individual flags of countries in Great Britain. Then again, we don't have many BLUE people in this country do we, so blue people are over represented in our flag! UTTER NONSENSE. Things like this really annoy me. Its do gooders like this that increase racial tensions even further, and I bet most ethnic minorities also regard the idea as ridiculous.

Ridiculous idea... reminds me of a certain school ( won't name it) where the head asked for a few pupils to appear on a photograph with him... those pupils had to be of an ethnic minority so the photograph could go on the brochure and " show parents that they have kids from different ethnic grounds"... it's just as pathetic as saying " oh look, aren't we nice, we have kids who are not white"

Yes, well done, do you want a medal for it then?

Surely the fact that the UK is a tolerant nation ( on the whole...some people on here are a disgrace but they are thankfully a minority) should be obvious to all. It should go without saying and shouldn't be pointed out in such an unsubtle way, whether it's a photograph or a flag... leave it as it is it's fine!

Just add some black for mourning if the BNP ever wins the general election:hihi:

According to The Star today, the redesign of our Union Jack flag is being considered to incorporate the colour 'black' to represent our ethnic diversity. I don't know about you but I think this would be absolutely ridiculous! Political Correctness gone mad!

I often say that too many people believe what they read in the press but this takes the biscuit, this is the most hilarious example yet.:loopy:

But it's really nothing to be proud of...people like you are becoming a minority and before long a rarity!!

But are they? As long as the newspapers keep reporting silly PC stories which show favortism to non-whites and the Government does less and less and people continue to vote BNP in protest, I'm not so sure.

It was only a few short years ago that we had huge race riots in Bradford and other northern towns.

But are they? As long as the newspapers keep reporting silly PC stories which show favortism to non-whites and the Government does less and less and people continue to vote BNP in protest, I'm not so sure.

It was only a few short years ago that we had huge race riots in Bradford and other northern towns.

couldn't agree more but there is all too many on here would rather stick there head in the sand and say its all hunky dory

perhaps a half moon and stars would be better to represent our Asian cousens.

According to The Star today, the redesign of our Union Jack flag is being considered to incorporate the colour 'black' to represent our ethnic diversity. I don't know about you but I think this would be absolutely ridiculous! Political Correctness gone mad! The colours don't represent race at all. As far as I knew it was a mixture of the individual flags of countries in Great Britain. Then again, we don't have many BLUE people in this country do we, so blue people are over represented in our flag! UTTER NONSENSE. Things like this really annoy me. Its do gooders like this that increase racial tensions even further, and I bet most ethnic minorities also regard the idea as ridiculous.

Ok then make other countries put a cross next to the crescent moon, preferably in front of it.

Our country is being crushed under the weight of idiotic ideas. Nobody would fly a new flag. thered be a massive increase in the "old" flag being flown.it would lead to the communities becoming more seperated and not become closer. we are led by idiots who are destroying the country.

if there are any minority people on here would you make this new flag your own?

Just to point out (as its escaped a few peoples attentions) - the first post in this topic was from 2003. Has our flag changed since then and I missed it? I haven't heard anything about it at all. Its a made up story, designed to provoke people into a (generally, but not always) racist/nationalist response in which they blame everyone who's not white for stealing our identity when nothings actually happened.

Nobody is suggesting changing the Union Jack - or nobody with a remote chance have having it changed.

The original was a complete non - story.

According to The Star today, the redesign of our Union Jack flag is being considered to incorporate the colour 'black' to represent our ethnic diversity. I don't know about you but I think this would be absolutely ridiculous! Political Correctness gone mad! The colours don't represent race at all. As far as I knew it was a mixture of the individual flags of countries in Great Britain. Then again, we don't have many BLUE people in this country do we, so blue people are over represented in our flag! UTTER NONSENSE. Things like this really annoy me. Its do gooders like this that increase racial tensions even further, and I bet most ethnic minorities also regard the idea as ridiculous.

Just what is that smell ?

I know. Someone stepped into a pile of something left behind in a field by a bull.

NON STORY TIME AGAIN. :loopy:

Just what is that smell ?

I know. Someone stepped into a pile of something left behind in a field by a bull.

NON STORY TIME AGAIN. :loopy:

another not read all the way through this thread was 700 pages away thread started at 12-06-2003, 09:04 PM



i ask as much changed since :loopy:

another not read all the way through this thread was 700 pages away thread started at 12-06-2003, 09:04 PM



i ask as much changed since :loopy:

Well the Union Jack certainly hasn't.

Well the Union Jack certainly hasn't.

Told you it was a non story. :P:D

Joking aside,
Isn't it time they put something from the wales flag in it?
There should be some green in it from that.

As it stands it is basically the England flag with a bit of blue behind to represent scotland. and a diagonal red bit to represent the old st patrick's flag of Ireland.

Joking aside,
Isn't it time they put something from the wales flag in it?


How about a sheep rampant?

How about a sheep rampant?

Good job jabbers isn't around. Can you imagine what a rampant sheep would do for him ?

This is nothing to do with Europe - one *British* man has proposed a redsign of the UJ and some politicians have supported it, that's all.

Any excuse for the usual suspects to get themselves in a self-righteous lather about the 'PC brigade' trying to destroy 'our' identity, presumably as a nation of dribbling, half wits.. ;)

Isn`t it supposed to be called the union flag.Only the union jack when it is flown at sea.I say change it to the cross of St, George.

I agree, the Scots are pushing to seperate so are the Welsh let St. George fly with pride.

Isn`t it supposed to be called the union flag.Only the union jack when it is flown at sea.I say change it to the cross of St, George.

that would only stand for england what about Scotland Ireland and Wales

I think the date of the orginal article and the fact that the Union Flag is still unincumbered by black stripes, islamic crescents, stars of david and whatever symbol those yogic flying people use (remember them, crazy guys!) does rather suggest that there can be a teeny bit of a tendancy for certain sections of the media to present stupid rablerousers crackpot ideas as "this IS going to happen!!!!!!!".

My good lady bought the daily mail from the post office the other day as she fancied doing a crossword and that was all they had left, having had a flick through it I never realised we were locked in a life or death struggle with Abu-Hamza pedophile gypsies lurking behind every bush and every single child in Britain being brainwashed into becoming a homosexual binge-drinking suicide bomber. :D

that would only stand for england what about Scotland Ireland and Wales

They want their own flags so let them have them.

Joking aside,
Isn't it time they put something from the wales flag in it?
There should be some green in it from that.

Originally Wales was legally part of the Kingdom of England and was therefore represented by the flag of England and hence no part of the Welsh flag is incorporated into the Union flag.

Originally Wales was legally part of the Kingdom of England and was therefore represented by the flag of England and hence no part of the Welsh flag is incorporated into the Union flag.

I think Wales still is isn't it? English Law always was the law in Wales whereas Scotland and Ulster have different laws, or has the Welsh assembly changed that?

Isn`t it supposed to be called the union flag.Only the union jack when it is flown at sea.I say change it to the cross of St, George. Change it how? There already is a St George Cross Flag, loads around every time England are playing footie! There's also the St Patrick's and St Andrew's flags, representing Northern Ireland and Scotland respectively. The Union flag or Jack is representative of the UK and not just England.