Dear All,
This has been troubling my mind (in a small way!) almost all my life. Please, can anyone help me?
When I was very young, in the late 1950s, I think I remember being taken to a place down a short, cobbeled(?) lane off, I think it's called Leopold Street (runs from the Town Hall - not to Library, not to City Hall, not Fargate - know the one? The good 'ol Buccaneer was on it!). Well about half way along this road on the opposite side to what I believe was/is the "Education Buildings" - i.e. almost opposite a bank of bus/tram shelters there was (not there now) this short dead-end lane running perpendicular to the main road - which lead to a clinic or similar. I want to know more about what this place was. I reckon it was right where the pub with the inside street was (now gone also?)!
I've never found anyone my age who remembers this place. Thing is, after both my parents died I found out I was adopted and I wondered if that clinic place was a place where various doctors etc. checked on the welfare of newly adopted children. Does anyone remember of know anything about the place??

Thanks,

Striver

Was it Diagon Alley? were there Wand Shops and stuff?

LOL sorry mate I'm not helping much am I?

yeah you could buy cloaks and owls and stuff...... sorry I'll get my coat :)

Could it have possibly have been Orchard Street. I remember seeing someting in the past few weeks regarding this. I will see if I can find it.
Meanwhile the Central Tech lads may be able to help.

Hey thanks Wavey and Linseyw you really made me laugh!! Fantastic! Amazing! Tears in my eyes!! Have a good weekend (I know I'm going to be giggling on and off about those replies all weekend!!):

Striver

You too..... we aim to please :)

There was a clinic there. It was a dental surgery for kids. It may even have been run by the Education Dept.
Uncaring dentists who may as well have been a vet treating an animal for all their sympathetic reassurance(!) and 'orrible green paint everywhere.
I have a vague feeling that there may have been a baby clinic as well on the same site. I'm sure I can remember going there with my mother to get free powdered milk and orange juice and I'm sure I remember seeing stainless steel scales for weighing babies there as well. It must have been when my brother was a babe. It was on Leopold street but there are a few newish buildings there now.

I miss the Museum. A basic city centre pub with a bit of character, selling good beer (a rarity)

Ned,
Thanks, I definately remember the green paint.

Yeah, the Museum... RIP I guess.

Have a good weekend, I hope you find some Old Rarity.

Striver

I think I remember it too. Wasn't there a medical training place next to it where bodies were cut up for research? Later becoming part of The Stone House?

Have a look at this link. The website may be some use to you.
www.omnesamici.co.uk/CGSleopoldstreet.html

my son's half-brother used to suffer from "Nocturnal Enuresis" (He wet the bed).

We used to take him to the clinic on leopold street for treatment for that, on a regular basis.

I seem to remember the educational psychologists were based there, too.

I could be wrong but i think that they did vaccinations there, too.

This was early/ mid eighties.

PT

Yes there was a clinic and it was on Orchard Place, just off Orchard Street. I went there for my polio sugar lump.

Striver - it was a clinic - Orchard Lane was a very narrow street that went between Leopold Street and Church Street and going down off Orchard Lane was a very short street (dead end) called Orchard Place - some people might remember the Sunshine Shop that sold health foods on the left hand corner at the top of Orchard Place (I think it had a vegetarian cafe too) and there was a shop that sold macs (Raincoat Shop?) on the right hand corner. The clinic was called a maternity and child welfare centre - run by the Public Health Department, whose main offices were opposite the main Town Hall building in Town Hall Chambers (in Pinstone Street and the bottom of Barker's Pool), above what used to be a Timpson's shoe shop for many years, though it's not now. You could also get to the clinic by an alleyway (Exchange Gateway?) off Fargate, but that wasn't the public entrance. I remember the place well because my Dad used to work there in the late 50s and early 60s. They had doctors who did ante-natal care and child health checks and I think there was also a lot of clerical work done to do with inspecting and registering of child minders - the person who remembered going there for a polio sugar lump would be right - when polio vaccine came in in the 50s they organised the campaign to get all the schoolchildren immunised right across the city. There were a lot of these child health centres (big one at Firth Park that I can recall, also others at Greenhill, Handsworth, etc but Orchard Place was the main one. The pub which someone mentioned was the Stone House - it was like a street inside and you could get into it either from the bottom of Orchard Place or from Church Street. Orchard Place was demolished some years ago - early 80s? - and the new Orchard Square shopping precinct was built in its place - there is a pub where the clinic was - might be a Wetherspoons, but I'm not sure about that.

I went to a school clinic there when I was about 7 or 8 to have my ears tested. At school they thought I was going deaf so the school nurse recommended me to have a test. But turned out I just daydreamed a lot and didn't listen! Embarrassing for my mum when they told her that I had perfect hearing! So yes, I remember that building.
I have selective hearing :)

Originally posted by Saxon
Yes there was a clinic and it was on Orchard Place, just off Orchard Street. I went there for my polio sugar lump.

Me too. God, I was so relieved. I thought I was going to get an injection. I hated the jab ever since a drunken, chain smoking family doctor broke one in my arm.

I too remember getting my Polio sugar lump,must have been 55/56.
I was also a regular in the Museum on Saturday night in the Early 60's
Is the replacment called The Frog & Parrot?

No, I used to go "supping" in the Museum, when it was poky, and cramped, 25-odd yrs ago, in my misspent girlhood (!)

The Museum pub was re-furbed a couple of times over the last 20 yrs, and when Orchard sq was redeveloped, it became the three tuns, then it becamae the Hogshead (which it is now)

They lost the shops, in the courtyard, to the back of the Stone House, and made an opening into Orchard Sq. (which was a crying shame!)

the frog and parrot is about 5/10 mins stagger away, up on Division street, it has its own micro-brewery.

You may be thinking of the "Pig and Whistle" which is now "the Fountain Bar", under the Fountain precinct office/shops development. The Fountain Precinct was buildt approx on the site of the old grand hotel, which had a rowdy biker pub inderneath, called the buck, which we have discussed half to death (:wink:) on another thread.

PT

I dug out some video I shot in 96 on a visit to the old sod.
In the video was a shot of the 'Hogshead' .'The Museum' in a previous life.You were right Plain talker,I dont know where I got the 'Frog and Parrot ' from,probably just confused with other places I visited.

The 3 Tuns was there at the same time as the Museum ,just a few doors down towards the town hall.
This pub in the early 60s was frequented by Irish ex pats,most who earened a living in the consruction industry at the time ,mainly new houses.

Originally posted by Ned Ludd
There was a clinic there. It was a dental surgery for kids. It may even have been run by the Education Dept.
Uncaring dentists who may as well have been a vet treating an animal for all their sympathetic reassurance(!) and 'orrible green paint everywhere.
I have a vague feeling that there may have been a baby clinic as well on the same site. I'm sure I can remember going there with my mother to get free powdered milk and orange juice and I'm sure I remember seeing stainless steel scales for weighing babies there as well. It must have been when my brother was a babe. It was on Leopold street but there are a few newish buildings there now.

I miss the Museum. A basic city centre pub with a bit of character, selling good beer (a rarity)

i have copy of a document in 1957 from sheffield public health dept stating the address as "maternity & child welfare centre,orchard place(leopold street),sheffield 1.this is where all women wishing to be delivered at the 2 local authority hospitals had to attend to be "booked in "---everyone was interviewed,usually by a health visitor and a chart made out longhand.all the relevant tests were carried out and the patient saw a doctor to have the pregnancy confirmed--the urine was tested by heating over a bunsen burner and an application form completed for the chosen place of delivery.YELLOW-CITY HOSPITAL;WHITE-NETHER EDGE & PINK FOR A HOME DELIVERY.NOTE :JESSOPS DID NOT USE THE CENTRAL HEALTH CLINIC FOR BOOKINGS. a dr flowerday who had polio as a child and walked with a limp was very well known & respected.hope this jogs any further memories.

It was definitely Orchard Place Clinic. I rememeber going there with my Mum and baby sister. The baby would have a check up and then Mum would buy subsidised orange juice and Ostermilk formula. Mum could also get that horrible iron and malt stuff, the consistancy of treacle which we older kids had to take YUK !
Anyone remember that ?

Yes striver I went twice to that clinic once was to have my eyes tested and another to have a tooth out all I remember was It was on orchard place and looking out of the windows and seeing railings which i still believe are still there

Another memory jerker!1

I remember that clinic - do you remember the smell?? - antiseptic bleach or something - all hospitals had the same smell- which certainly is a lot better than the various odours you get now when you walk round a hospital.

Am i right but was'nt there a large council dentists on teh corner of Leopold Street and Church Street - it used to be on the Upper floors above Timothy Whites (for those of younger years, they were Boots the Chemists only serious competition) - what ever happened to them

I think the dentists in town closed down when the Charles Clifford Dental Hispital at Broomhall swung into action - now there was a place to fill any kids with dread - to go upstairs and be faced with a room with not one, but what seemed like hundreds of dentists chairs (bet there were only about ten or twenty really) - in those days the drills were all powered by electric motors connected by a complicated series of pulleys and cords - it seemed a really weird sight

I had to go for quite a lot of treatment at Charles Clifford when I was about nine or ten. My student dentist was Miss Dove - so how come efter all these years (45) I can remember her? - she was my first big 'crush' - I dont know what me made me more nervous - that dentist chair or the thought of meeting the loev of my life. All i can remember now is her smile, hair and eyes - she certainly made the whole experience seem a whole lot better.

It was Orchard Place, Maternity and Child Welfare Centre
I worked there in the late 50'/60s. There was a smallpox outbreak and a polio outbreak while I worked there.

My job was to weigh the babies at the baby clinic, and make sure their charts were up to date. I used to travel to the outlying clics too. Ivy Lodge (burngreave) Handsworth, Wybourn, Darnall, etc. nice job

The building also housed Health Visitors, had a Maternity Clinic and very secret Family Planning. Only the married women were allowed to give out the limited contraceptives at that time behind closed doors. Very hush hush and as I was single was not allowed anywhere near. ( Years later I went back to work in the Clinics and it was very different, I think Sheffield was one of the first cities to give free family planning.)

We did anti-natal clinics, injections for abroad and up the lane was the shop which sold baby foods and vits codliver oil and malt and that lovely orange juice. You had to have your baby checked by Dr or Health Viisitor before you could buy the subsidised products.
Whiile I worked there (48 hr wk ) there was a polio outbreak and I remember doing the paper work for queues of hundreds of people, queueing thro the clinic and up the Lane and round by the Museum Pub ( by the way the yorkshire cricketers used that pub ) Injections at that time no sugar lump.
Hazel

I can remember going there in the late 50's for jabs and to have my teeth out, they were very unfeeling, you'd get horrible smelly gas that made you have nighmares and feel sick, then the 'nurse' (I use the name loosely) would shake you about by the arm to wake you up. I also went to have that freezing stuff put on a verucca it worked really well too.
I also got the lovely clinic orange juice and malt, as i was a 'free meals' kid.

There was also a dental practice on Orchard Street. One of the practice's dentists was called Mr Cole, who eventually moved his practice to Fulwood when his partner retired.

He eventually retired himself, but I remember him being a very kind and gentle man, even though he gave you a 2d bar of cadbury's if you were good. What would they think these days.


Tazz

Originally posted by Banksia
It was definitely Orchard Place Clinic. I rememeber going there with my Mum and baby sister. The baby would have a check up and then Mum would buy subsidised orange juice and Ostermilk formula. Mum could also get that horrible iron and malt stuff, the consistancy of treacle which we older kids had to take YUK !
Anyone remember that ? thanks...........its taken me 50 years to shove the memory of that vile, stinking, oozing ,malt ,to the very back of my memory

now i can taste it all over again, and im going to be siiiiiccccckkkkk!!!!!!

Originally posted by depoix
thanks...........its taken me 50 years to shove the memory of that vile, stinking, oozing ,malt ,to the very back of my memory

now i can taste it all over again, and im going to be siiiiiccccckkkkk!!!!!!

Yes I can remember. It was cod liver oil and malt in a brown jar. It stank and it tasted even worse.

When I saw my mum going for the jar I would run away and hide under the table but she always found me. YUK

Originally posted by Mo
Yes I can remember. It was cod liver oil and malt in a brown jar. It stank and it tasted even worse.

When I saw my mum going for the jar I would run away and hide under the table but she always found me. YUK two nurses used to hold me down while the third one force fed me the malt,it still makes me feel sick just thinking of it:cry:

Originally posted by Striver
Dear All,
This has been troubling my mind (in a small way!) almost all my life. Please, can anyone help me?
When I was very young, in the late 1950s, I think I remember being taken to a place down a short, cobbeled(?) lane off, I think it's called Leopold Street (runs from the Town Hall - not to Library, not to City Hall, not Fargate - know the one? The good 'ol Buccaneer was on it!). Well about half way along this road on the opposite side to what I believe was/is the "Education Buildings" - i.e. almost opposite a bank of bus/tram shelters there was (not there now) this short dead-end lane running perpendicular to the main road - which lead to a clinic or similar. I want to know more about what this place was. I reckon it was right where the pub with the inside street was (now gone also?)!
I've never found anyone my age who remembers this place. Thing is, after both my parents died I found out I was adopted and I wondered if that clinic place was a place where various doctors etc. checked on the welfare of newly adopted children. Does anyone remember of know anything about the place??



Thanks,

Striver
it was orcherd street school clinic

striver thanks for bringing the subject of the clinic up - for years i thouht i had imagined it, it one of those things you can only ask your parents, but mine have both sadly died - it's among many questions i now want answering!

There was aclinic for children on Leopold Street I use to go for hearing tests in the 70's but I believed they dealt with all sorts.
The building is still there but not run as a childrens clinic anymore.

Bloomin eck.......I can remember that place from the early 1970's. I had to take my first born there but I can't for the life of me remember what for! I can remember the dark and dank feeling of the place though. I can remember trying to find it to start with and the memory that sticks in my mind is actually going down what seemed like a back alley off the main street. I don't remember names or faces but I do remember that I didn't like the place at all.
Reading the previous posts here just shows how far we have come today in a relatively short time. There were no prettily painted walls and carpeted floors back then. You did as you were told and no arguments. Mmmmmm.......I have shivers going down the back of my neck now.

I actually worked there and it wasn't so bad, or was it.?

The woman in charge, a spinster lady ruled with a rod of iron.
Luckily I went out to other clinics so didn't have to stomach her much.

hazel

The Education Offices were on Leopold St and had clinics for eyes and ears seemingly. I know I went there for eye tests, I think it was once a year then. They put great "drops" in that were more like little tablets than drops to me. I first went when I was 11. Coming out after a check up and still almost blind cos of the drops, I walked smack into a lamp pole....ouch.
The Orchard Place clinic was where you went to get malt and cod liver oil and the concentrate orange for babies. We used to get fed "Virol" when the other stuff ran out....similar..
The orange was good though.
Joanl

hi
yes there was a baby clinic there as I used to work on leopold street at a baby wear shop called travis and people used to come in after going to the clinic

Originally posted by Banksia
It was definitely Orchard Place Clinic. I rememeber going there with my Mum and baby sister. The baby would have a check up and then Mum would buy subsidised orange juice and Ostermilk formula. Mum could also get that horrible iron and malt stuff, the consistancy of treacle which we older kids had to take YUK !
Anyone remember that ?

Was this "Virol"? I had it and I gave it my son on my mum's recommendation. Lovely stuff! This was different from Cod Liver Oil and Malt. It was malt with some sort of vitamins and minerals added. You could dissolve it in milk warm milk, or give it from a spoon. I used to dip my son's dummy in it! (This wouldnt be recommended these days, but it kept him quiet!). We were both Ostermilk babies too!

I liked Virol. There was also Scott's Emulsion. Not quite so bad
as`pure' Cod Liver Oil. Also does anyone remember a clinic on Heeley Bottom during the war?

my sisters kids used to get their 'free' clothes there , itchy duffle coats and horrible jumpers

Mmmm, Virol, yummy, I loved it. Bet that why I'm a strapping big 7 stone now :D

My main memory of the Heeley Bottom clinic was that many kids had been plastered with gentian violet for impetigo.

clap clinic orchard square

I remember the clinic on Leopold Street it was also the childrens dentist I remember this huge guy forcing this big rubber mask over my face to knock me out

Could it have possibly have been Orchard Street. I remember seeing someting in the past few weeks regarding this. I will see if I can find it.
Meanwhile the Central Tech lads may be able to help.i remember going to that clinic they held me down and forced malt extract down my throat,the very smell of malt now makes me vomit

I went there for my polio sugar lump in 1965. Nobody told me that I was supposed to crunch it up. It didn't half hurt as it went down..:(

I remember the clinic on Leopold Street it was also the childrens dentist I remember this huge guy forcing this big rubber mask over my face to knock me out

Think we must have had the same dentist, the memories of that rubber mask left me with a phobia of dentists, which lasted for years after.
And the horrible smell of the rubber mixed with the gas, even the taste of it used to get to you. :gag: