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Another thread got me thinking about hygiene etc....
I am a firm believer of what might make you ill will only build your immune system,...i remember watching a program about the guys who clean sewers etc and they said when they first started they found they got quite ill,...after a couple of months they very rarely get sick anymore.....
Are the people who wash their hands 20 times a day, or keeping their children from playing in mud or sticking their hands in their mouth every 5 seconds, making it worse for themselves??
Eventually will we all have to live inside bubbles so we dont pick up any little bug!?!?
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 13:45 I know parents who are obsessive about their kids cleanliness, yet their kids catch everything thats going the rounds.
I also know parents who let their kids get filthy, playing in mud and theyre disgustingly healthy.
As a kid I was a vile, dirty little urchin (I havent changed much) and I was as fit as a flea and that stood me in good stead for adulthood.
I read in Metro that eating your bogies boosts your imune system as you are ingesting the bacteria and viruses etc. trapped in them.
Another thread got me thinking about hygiene etc....
I am a firm believer of what might make you ill will only build your immune system,...i remember watching a program about the guys who clean sewers etc and they said when they first started they found they got quite ill,...after a couple of months they very rarely get sick anymore.....
Are the people who wash their hands 20 times a day, or keeping their children from playing in mud or sticking their hands in their mouth every 5 seconds, making it worse for themselves??
Eventually will we all have to live inside bubbles so we dont pick up any little bug!?!?
Quite true
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 13:48 I read in Metro that eating your bogies boosts your imune system as you are ingesting the bacteria and viruses etc. trapped in them.
Id rather die of plague!!!!!
Id rather die of plague!!!!!
You might if you don't start nibbling some bogies.
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 13:54 You might if you don't start nibbling some bogies.
Just block up my nostrils and send in the plague rats.
For the health of the nation we should encorage kids to eat more bogies.
http://www.thesistersthree.com/forums/archive/index.ts3/t-6042.html
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 13:58 Oh god I clicked it and started reading it.
It makes complete sense....i have often seen people who look quite normal eating their own boogies,....now i will think differently of them!
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 14:01 Put me off pea soup for life.
I agree with the OP. I was a scabby little urchin as a kid too, and even now my kitchen hygene standards leave a lot to be desired.
I never wash the dirt/insect crap off my veggies and potatos before cooking them, and I often take a packed lunch to the stables and tuck into my sarnies with horse dung encrusted under my nails.
Are you grossed out yet?
I don't care - I very rarely get stomach upsets!!!
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 14:05 I agree with the OP. I was a scabby little urchin as a kid too, and even now my kitchen hygene standards leave a lot to be desired.
I never wash the dirt/insect crap off my veggies and potatos before cooking them, and I often take a packed lunch to the stables and tuck into my sarnies with horse dung encrusted under my nails.
Are you grossed out yet?
I don't care - I very rarely get stomach upsets!!!
Same here, I also eat raw mushrooms with horse crap on em. I rarely get sick.
downtroad 13-07-2006, 14:08 Yup i agree as well. :)
Great,..everyone so far thinks the same....
But surely their must be someone one here who can give us the opposite opinion??
You should wash the dirt of vegetables though, thats where you get botchalism (spelling?) from, and it's deadly.
downtroad 13-07-2006, 14:16 You should wash the dirt of vegetables though, thats where you get botchalism (spelling?) from, and it's deadly.
But..but...but it tastes so good :)
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 14:18 But..but...but it tastes so good :)
In some states of America they deliberately eat soil. Utah for example.
downtroad 13-07-2006, 14:21 In some states of America they deliberately eat soil. Utah for example.
They grow good potatos in Utah. I never wash my jacket potatos.
purdyamos 13-07-2006, 14:45 Great,..everyone so far thinks the same....
But surely their must be someone one here who can give us the opposite opinion??
No there isn't, on account of them all scrubbing themselves spotless thrice daily then keeling over with a slight chill. :D
Me too...as above...dirty girl... never ill...hope it works for bird flu...
No there isn't, on account of them all scrubbing themselves spotless thrice daily then keeling over with a slight chill. :D
Me too...as above...dirty girl... never ill...hope it works for bird flu...
If we run around licking the arses of all ducks, chickens and basically any bird we see, maybe that will help?!?:P
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 14:58 If we run around licking the arses of all ducks, chickens and basically any bird we see, maybe that will help?!?:P
Tried it. They fight like demons so forget it.
Entirely agree with the OP; I'm doing some part time work at a well known household/hardware store and it staggers and depresses me how much disinfectant/antibacterial this that and the other that's sold.There's also something of an obsession with 'wipes' for all sorts of ridiculous purposes. What's wrong with a cloth and a bit of washing up liquid for goodness' sake?
A good friend of mine was telling me the other day that her 11 year old boy hardly ever bathes or showers (Ok, when he hits puberty it'll be a different story). I've met him. Gloriously happy healthy lad, doesn't smell, so where's the problem?
I have a very relaxed attitude to dirt and muck. If a bit of something tasty falls on my kitchen floor I pick it up and eat it. I'm blessed with good health and almost never sick or ill.
I believe there's some research to the effect that the rise in allergies, asthma etc is linked to obsessive cleanliness. Perhaps one of the people who's good at that sort of thing could post a link?
YakQueudrue 13-07-2006, 15:08 Eating your own toe nail clippings is also very good for you, especially if encrusted with three days worth of sweaty sock cheese.
Soil can contain all sorts of bugs many of which you really don't want to be consuming. For example, the bacteria which causes tetanus thrives in the soil. It usually enters through breaches in the skin, so watch out if you've got sore lips or a mouth ulcer.
Then you've got the bacteria associated with soil contaminated with dog poo and the wee of other animals. Don't worry about that too much, those of you who don't wash your veges and fruit; I'm sure the pesticide contamination will get to you first. Ah, but I bet you all eat organic don't you?
As for building up your immune system, I agree entirely. There's evidence to suggest that kids exposed to a bit of dirt during the course of normal play grow up with fewer allergies. A big no to all the obsessive-compulsive use of Dettox then.
However, be sensible about it. A relatively low dose of a virulent bacterial strain will have you on the antibiotics before you can streptococcus.
downtroad 13-07-2006, 15:16 Eating your own toe nail clippings is also very good for you, especially if encrusted with three days worth of sweaty sock cheese.
Also drinking your own urine. Urine is a very good antisceptic as well, when it is fresh anyway.
...I believe there's some research to the effect that the rise in allergies, asthma etc is linked to obsessive cleanliness. Perhaps one of the people who's good at that sort of thing could post a link?
It's called the 'Hygiene Hypothesis', and it's been around for 15 years or so. Here's a link (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16675321&query_hl=6&itool=pubmed_docsum) to a review article.
Yes but we all have our tetanus vaccinations every 5 or 10 years or whatever it is again!?:suspect:
Yes but we all have our tetanus vaccinations every 5 or 10 years or whatever it is again!?:suspect:
Do we? Many don't bother or forget that it needs a booster.
Jabberwocky 13-07-2006, 15:20 I cant have a tetanus injection because Im extremely allergic so I have to rely on my natural filthyness to survive.
i have 4 had a days off work ill since i left school which was 7 years ago...i have a different opnion to all of you, i am extremely funny about dirty things places and people. I wont drink or eat somewhere if its slightly dirty. Even at work i wash my cup before i use it and ideally would prefer to use disposable everything if i or someone i know and trust to be clean hasnt washed them.:rolleyes:
Soil can contain all sorts of bugs many of which you really don't want to be consuming. For example, the bacteria which causes tetanus thrives in the soil. It usually enters through breaches in the skin, so watch out if you've got sore lips or a mouth ulcer.
That "flesh eating bug" lives in soil too, and you realy don't want to get that, unless you fancy being on the front of The Sun under a headline "Flesh eating bug ate my face" or something.
cosywolf 13-07-2006, 15:32 'You've got to eat your peck of dirt before you die'...wise old granny quote. Tho, er, I think it means we'll all eat a lot of dirt in our lifetime and it'll do us good, and not that if you eat a peck of dirt you'll die...oh dear. Well, I know what it means :)
I have one antibacterial cleaner in my house - Miltons - for cleaning up dog and baby sicks and accidents, etc. Apart from that it's good old washing up liquid on a cloth.
I don't subscribe for a minute to scrubbing everything with Dettol, and definitely not asking for antibiotics for myself or the cosycub unless ordered to by the GP (much to my GP's relief - people are always bugging her for antibiotics). Even if I did want to keep everything spotless it would be hopeless: the child crawls after the dog crawls after the child. The child drops the food, the dog licks him clean. He walks, he crawls, he sticks his nosey little self into everything fingers first then pops those fingers straight into his mouth...it's natural and fine.
But everything in moderation: I do wash the fruit and veg - never mind the dirt, its the manmade chemicals I don't like. I clean his hands if we're picnicking - dog muck can be hugely nasty. Everything gets a Miltons wash down on the rare occassion of a tum/bum bug - very rare... and he's strong as an ox.
So if we're all so sensible, who is it buying and using all this antibacterial stuff? Or------are people buying it out of a sense of guilt and then stockpiling it all in their cupboards, never to see the light of day again? Lol. Or being bought it by rabid mums and mums in law, again never to see the light of day?
So if we're all so sensible, who is it buying and using all this antibacterial stuff? Or------are people buying it out of a sense of guilt and then stockpiling it all in their cupboards, never to see the light of day again? Lol. Or being bought it by rabid mums and mums in law, again never to see the light of day?
I blame adverts like that "what does your loo say about you ?" one where the friend runs from the house because the bog smells and the woman has a nervous breakdown thinking she will call her a dirty cow behind her back.
I blame adverts like that "what does your loo say about you ?" one where the friend runs from the house because the bog smells and the woman has a nervous breakdown thinking she will call her a dirty cow behind her back.
I agree. The ones which particularly irritate me are those for Dettol or Dettox or whatever it is. The one which shows the baby's high chair piled high with dust and dirt is especially annoying. Talk about inspiring paranoia in order to sell your products.
I always feel sorry for that singing bacteria ("make then vom, make them vom, spew their guts and cry for mom") when he gets disolved by the bleach :(
SaxonLeigh 13-07-2006, 15:54 I blame adverts like that "what does your loo say about you ?" one where the friend runs from the house because the bog smells and the woman has a nervous breakdown thinking she will call her a dirty cow behind her back.
i blame these too, did you see the advert for the detox anti bac spray where the mum was spraying everything from the phone to the kids foot ball because of cold germs. i just think this world has gone mad with all the clenliness.
we have a woman at work, i nick named her monica because she is just like monica off friends. she started washing the kitchen sides down & all the pots in the kitchen with sterilising solution what you use to clean babys bottles out with. it was madness, i asked her why you need to clean everything with this stuff & she said to kill the germs. i explained to her that by killing them all you dont get immune to illness. guess who has the most time off ill at our place?!
Some of the houses on manor / Aurbouthorne aren't too sterile
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