does any of this sound familiar?

was chatting with a colleague who told me she fainted in the leadmill the other night, and got chucked out by the bouncers. they wouldn't let her back in to find her mates, get her bag, nothing.

reminded me, many moons ago, out (at the leddy) with a good friend, very, so very drunk on the vodka, definitely stumbling about. it seemed quite sudden when the bouncer chucked out my mate. i had to vomit at a similar time, so couldn't follow her out (now why have i never learned the art of projectile puke?) when i finished, i found her outside by a wall ok, being taken care of by some random stranger.

at the leddy, memories from even more moons ago, of laughing at my fellow sixth formers, being randomly and violently ejected. also remembered hearing these boys had walked home ok.

it upset me when i got reminded about it. all of us have made ourselves vulnerable by drinking too much at points in our lives. i'm not suggesting we all stop taking risks for our fun. it just seems such bad door policy of the leadmill to chuck people out at their most incapacitated and actively not help them.

have other people had similar experiences?

by the way, i'm not trying to start some "drunken women: the new short skirt - are they asking for it?" kind of thread.

I personally would much much rather people who were wasted, like in all your above example, got thrown out. Like you said, people puking, falling about etc is not cool. I prefer to drink, enjoy the atmosphere, chat to my friends etc without having to worry about the paralectic. There's a lesson for you;

if you can't handle your drink, don't.

er ur going a bit off the thread there applejuice - the leadmill bouncers are repulsive.

I think its prob a little bit of both. the leadmill bouncers can be right c*cks in all fairness but they can also be nice too and i have seen both sides for myself, but would agree they are definately among the most easily p*$$ed off bouncers in sheffield. In a way i agree with applejuice that you should be more careful with your drink - you are your responsibility not that of the bouncers, although i guess everyone has got in a state at some point. At the end of the day the bouncers are there purely to maintain order and not to nurse drunks - if someone is causing trouble by any means or being an anoyance to the other people in the club then they are there to eject them.

However, i can see that they maybe should have taken a little more consideration where people are incapitated especially where they are female and vunerable as you say - eg. could have escorted them inside to find their friend so they are not left alone in middle of night as for all they know she could have been spiked or anything. To leave a girl drunk and alone and without their bag - and therefore any money for a taxi or phone to call anyone is possibly a little harsh.

Sorry, I don't see why doormen should help people who can't help themselves. People should realise their own drinking capacity. While doormen are helping drunk idiots somewhere else there may be a customer who really deserves their help.

Sorry, I don't see why doormen should help people who can't help themselves. People should realise their own drinking capacity. While doormen are helping drunk idiots somewhere else there may be a customer who really deserves their help.

true but its generally not possible to tell the difference between someone who's drunk and someone who's been drugged, is it fair to leave such a person alone with no money or form of communcation? Bouncers should not be expected to go out of their way to help someone its not their job. However, as human beings they should make a moral decision about leaving someone to be potentially raped or attacked. ejecting someone is fine but they should at least be allowed their bag etc so they can get home or call someone.

The Leadmill is the only place in Sheffield where I have had regular problems with the bouncers. Very arrogant, compassionless, ego-tripping idiots. I almost came to blows once because they refused to call an ambulance for some random lad they'd dumped on the pavement and allowed to start choking on his own sick. Nice lads. Shame I like the place (on a Saturday) so much otherwise I'd boycott it because of them.

Sorry, I don't see why doormen should help people who can't help themselves. People should realise their own drinking capacity. While doormen are helping drunk idiots somewhere else there may be a customer who really deserves their help.

To the point of chucking you out without your belongings... presumably including (for a girl) purse, house keys, and mobile all in the handbag. What exactly are they expecting the person to do?

I could be the only one with this, but I've never found the bouncers to be rude or arrogant and make an effort to great/make eye contact on the way in (which is often returned with "have a good night lads" or some similiar pleasantry).

I've only seen them dealing with those that can't control themselves and I recon this is a good thing, as those out for a decent night out can go without the worry that some shandied up gibbon is gonna spill your drink or barf on yer shirt.

Finally, if the recently ejected detest the decision and continue to be aggressive and get more from the bouncers, they may think twice about goin there again. . and possibly choose a more mainstream muppet venue. .

To the point of chucking you out without your belongings... presumably including (for a girl) purse, house keys, and mobile all in the handbag. What exactly are they expecting the person to do?

Should have thought of that before gettin so wrecked that they weren't aware that they had bags, keys, phones until they're outside and the self inflicted predicament becomes evermore apparent.

you could be perfectly sober and get thrown out. If they grab you and don't let you collect your belongings then you're stuffed, drunk, sober or drugged aren't you.

I personally would much much rather people who were wasted, like in all your above example, got thrown out. Like you said, people puking, falling about etc is not cool. I prefer to drink, enjoy the atmosphere, chat to my friends etc without having to worry about the paralectic. There's a lesson for you;

if you can't handle your drink, don't.

ouch, applejuice, i said it was a while ago. i drink more moderately these days having realised what an eternal lightweight i am. my colleague is teetotal. responsible drinking is an unsteady learning curve. lucky for you to have learned it. i agree that people should be made to face the consequence of their own actions. maturity and the drinking age don't coincide. i think in clubs with cheap drinks deals the management should at least have policies for dealing with the casualties of their offers, and then have a word with their bouncers.

They were all bullied at school, hence them bulling you in a form of way. It's a power trip for them that's all. Just do what I do, don't even fooking look at them, don't aknowledge them, it only gives them ammo when you do say summat. Agree though the Leadmil ones are bad, not as bad as the ones that door the Republic.

i think in clubs with cheap drinks deals the management should at least have policies for dealing with the casualties of their offers, and then have a word with their bouncers.

Why should the management have policies on the special offers, as a person you should drink responsibly and not rely on doorstaff or 'management' to help you out!!

Is that what a doorman is there for? to help idiots who don't know when enough is enough, I agree with applejuice.

i happen to work at leadmill and the bouncers are the nicest you'll meet, but they can get very agressive and rightly so, i mean you have to apprciate they job is purely to ensure that everyone is safe in the club, and im sure many people will no how busy it gets on monday nights for example, so if theres someone throwing up they have to get them out, or if someones shouting abuse at us bar staff we will get them kicked out and il admit the bouncers will use force because they are helping our job easier, and showing everyone else, beheave or else

As I go to the Leadmill a fair bit I am on hello terms with most of the bouncers there.
They are always alright with me.
Sometimes a little bit too much of a stickler, for example the other week we were talking to the band we'd been to see and the band had to come outside with US as they were throwing us out! We then begged and pleaded for one of our mates to go back in for something WITH the drummer... (NOT THAT!;)) but they weren't having it, so the band guy had to go back in and fetch it back out again! So they don't give special treatment to anyone including the bands that are playing!

What an appalling tale. I heard bouncers were properly trained/ registered, these days but this is obviously not the case. Tales like this is why I don't bother going out, I am on medication which can cause my blood sugar to lower and give the impression of me being drunk. If I was thrown out of a venue without my bag,medication and means to get help, I could die. This is without the modern phenomena of drugging people to rape or mug them. Bouncers and more importantly venue owners should have more sense. It is good that we are warned about these places so we know to avoid them.

What about the bouncers at Hotpants??

A friend of mine was once thrown out for falling asleep through drink and was barred for life. He even went in on one occasion in fancy dress, he got sussed and was then thrown out again.

I used to work at Leadmill and regularly used to on the front door organising guestlists etc, and thus got to know the bouncers extremely well. They are an awesome bunch, and just doing their job. I've seen them throwing people out for whatever reason, but I've also seen them looking after people, espech after one of the arctic monkey gigs, a guy badly hurt his neck and had passed out and they were incredibly professional and looked after him whilst waitin for an ambulance.
And anyway, having to look after a club full of drunken lary ppl day in day out is gonna make anyone a bit grouchy sometimes!

When i used to go down town to Leadmill, a mate of mine had his driving licence taken off him because they thought it was fake, and they wouldnt let any of us in. this was about a year ago but they used to be bad. not been back since and wont be doing so either.

Yeah did you see my comments on another thread? Visited recenltly and one of my mates got chucked out (in fairness he was wasted) but there was also a bloke that looked like he was having a fit and I tried to help him up with the bouncers and another bouncer just kind of came over pushed me out of the way and they dragged him out :huh:

Oh and a place I avoid because of the bouncers being c*cks is RSVP. I just go next door to spoonies (and take my mates with me). Extremely aggressive snotty 'men' that try to intimidate any bloke they can and look up any lasses skirt they can. They annoyed me - can you tell :hihi:? Well actually it was just the one in fairness to his accomplice colleague.

Oh and something else with RSVP sometimes they charge on the door (varying rates) and it seems to go in the bouncers pockets, is this the boucners ripping them off or do they actually charge entry somewhat randomly sometimes. (this was about 4 or 5 months ago when I still went)

I used to work at Leadmill and regularly used to on the front door organising guestlists etc, and thus got to know the bouncers extremely well. They are an awesome bunch, and just doing their job. I've seen them throwing people out for whatever reason, but I've also seen them looking after people, espech after one of the arctic monkey gigs, a guy badly hurt his neck and had passed out and they were incredibly professional and looked after him whilst waitin for an ambulance.
And anyway, having to look after a club full of drunken lary ppl day in day out is gonna make anyone a bit grouchy sometimes!

i could not agree more!

Never had any problems with the doormen at the Leadmill. I was turned away once, as we were in a large group of lads, but they weren't arseholes about it, and they at least told us why we weren't going in.

Fair enough.

I was refused entry to the leadmill because the bouncers said that I was too drunk. I had only had two pints and one JD, Im a bit of a lightweight admitedly but can certainly handle more than this.

I got the feeling that the bouncer was on a bit of a power trip!

I think this can be endemic with the types of people that can be atracted to that type of job, have to say though I wouldn't want to be the one doing it with the situations they have to put themselves in most nights.
I'm confusing my self, am I slagging of bouncers or defending them?

I was refused entry to the leadmill because the bouncers said that I was too drunk. I had only had two pints and one JD, Im a bit of a lightweight admitedly but can certainly handle more than this.

I got the feeling that the bouncer was on a bit of a power trip!

I think this can be endemic with the types of people that can be atracted to that type of job, have to say though I wouldn't want to be the one doing it with the situations they have to put themselves in most nights.
I'm confusing my self, am I slagging of bouncers or defending them?


My mate was told he was too ****** and he hadnt had 1 drink!

My girlfriend and I got refused entry because we did not have a Students Union Card.......never been back since. We were waiting in queue for 30 mins in rain and wind too.