Well, its time to do it at last. ANyone interested in being part of a new Sheffield rock night(s)/club(s), PM me with your email address and I will set up a mailing list, and then we can arrange a meeting. Now is the time....

I am sure everyone has lots of ideas and suggestions so the first thing to do is have a full melting pot of ideas and relate them to the (boring bit for most), the economic reality of running such an event/nights and the possibility of at the very least covering all costs and outlays. The concept of a profit is also rather attractive but that may be some way off......

I have some experience of this as people no doubt know, but there is plenty of room here for anyone with other experience or just pure enthuiasm. Dedication is the only essential quality....projects like this can consume vast quantities of time. They can also consume vast quantities of money which may never be seen again so getting the RIGHT ideas into operation are vital.

For those who dont know me I had plans in 2001 to re-open REBELS and even went to the stages of negotiating a lease, meeting with people who actually matter quite a lot at the Town hall re entertainments licence requirements, etc, and following up, having the place professionally surveyed and evaluated, even set up a web site about what we were doing. Unfortunately, the final surveyors report was a nightmare, and the final word from the Town Hall and the Police was that Rebels was never going to re-open as a club...at least one with a valid entertainments licence. Not fancying the idea of running an illegal club (although some do get away with it) had to drop Rebels and look for another venue. Found CHARLES STREET venue which had been empty for several years in 2001, and this was perfect. Made both a freehold and leasehold offer for the club but the crazy landlord decided to accept a LEASE offer from a certain other club of whom he was well acquainted with the existing management. Lost that one......could not find any more venues aside from what is now the Corporation. In 2001 this was empty and I contacted the owners, but never received any reply from them re the venue. This was before the Corp became interested in it....

Then decided to run rock nights without our own venue just to get something off the ground, being fed up with surveyors, lawyers, greedy freehold companies in London, etc. The only venue we could get in 2001 after trying everywhere was Sheffield University Students Union, and they promised us a whole Summer with posible termtime events as well from september fitting into their student club plans. After many meetings with the ents staff we hired the Foundry and Fusion venue with a large capacity to put on bands and run THE FRIDAY ROCK NIGHT. I did all the poster campaigning, designed the posters and organized the distribution of flyers around all the appropriate bars. With an 8 week countdown to the first event there was a lot of interest in what was really just an experiment. We ran THREE rock nights from June 21st 2001 but the Union then informed us they had decided to refurbish their venues all summer and we could have no more bookings. Moved the night to City Hall ballroom and ran just 2 weeks there before THEY kicked us out as the Corporation moved in with a better offer, needing the venue for DROP.

It kind of never went anywhere else as nothing was available on a Friday at the time. No venue management were interested in rock nights at all, so THE FRIDAY ROCKNIGHT became history at that point, but not for want of trying....

This is why own venue is required....club management are notoriously fickle about independant promoters...and they reserve the right to kick u out when they feel like it. It ruins continuity....

lets take it forward from here and see what can be done.....this thread can run with ideas in the meantime, and I will set up a mailing list for those who want to contribute ideas, hard work, investment (yes these things cost to set up and run)...

PM'd you mate, Keep me posted :D

DeeJ

MORE MORE MORE.....

Not sure I can offer anything accept that I'd defo give it a whirl. I used to love the 'Mullet Rock' night at The Casbah. I always feel like I'm at least double the average age at The Corporation.

Happy to work with you if possible, although we only have an 11pm bar licence - we do have full public ents licence however.

We're trying to find premises of our own to move to (see 'help me find a pub' thread). Lambert Smith Hampton tried to flog us Rebels recently and I declined. They asked why. I told them I knew about the state of the roof, the wideness of the stairway being unsuitable, lack of access, blah blah blah, they just said 'oh'.

Originally posted by Classic Rock
Happy to work with you if possible, although we only have an 11pm bar licence - we do have full public ents licence however.

We're trying to find premises of our own to move to (see 'help me find a pub' thread). Lambert Smith Hampton tried to flog us Rebels recently and I declined. They asked why. I told them I knew about the state of the roof, the wideness of the stairway being unsuitable, lack of access, blah blah blah, they just said 'oh'.

Cool. The licensing regulations ar all set to change anyway at some point fairly soon.....although when that is is up to some guesswork. I believe all bars will able to apply to open until 3am?

REBELS...go on then how much were they asking for it in 2004? I had a problem with them in 2001 wanting £22K a year PLUS 15% of turnover PLUS only a full insuring/repair lease (we had to fix everything ourselves). I did hear they had dropped the lease price but its still going to cost anyone £30K plus to repair it, and God knows how much for a new entrance and fire exit. Now I would do that IF it was going to be worth it, but the Council talk about pulling down the whole block in a few years, and walking past it yesterday I noticed bits of masonry about to fall off the sides of the building as well as the roof falling in....legal liabilities would be prohibitively expensive on such a decrepid building struggling to stay standing.

When we went to view REBELS in 2001 they made us sign a get out clause explaining that if we were killed by falling bits of masonry it was our own fault and that Lambert Smith and Hampton were not liable in any way whatsoever, having pointed out it was a death-trap. The agent we dealt with, Matthew Barnesdale, of LSH, even refused to take us round the venue, just giving us a key and making a joke about hard-hats and torches. That inspired me with some confidence as to the state of the venue!!!! I took a whole load of pix but cant find them....

perhaps we can organize a meeting there (not REBELS I mean CRB...LOL) quite a few people have given me email addresses so maybe a good team can be put together.

I didn't enquire about the price of Rebels, knowing the work involved and the state of the building I didn't really want to know.

Matthew B still works at LSH, he wasnt the one who suggested Rebels to us though. I had a long chat with Matthew the other week, he's got a sense of humour unlike many property developers and has some sense of honesty too. I felt like I was actually talking to a real person rather than just a suit.

Why not come down to the next CRB meet and talk to people there about your ideas?

when is it? I may be away on holiday..let me know the dates...

Not this Sunday but next. The 27th June from 3pm ish.

Oh, I may not be around that weekend. Plenty of opportunities though, need to work out what I want to do myself before organising other people. Its a very perculiar market rock nights....it takes a hell of a lot of effort and continuity to get a decent crowd together...I mean look how long DROP took to get off the ground properly in 1993.

Planning the RIGHT event at the RIGHT time is always difficult in this market....things are very different to 4 years ago when the Corporation was homeless, for example.

Stimulate some more discussion here I hope with that....is there room for a new rock night or rock club, and if so, what can be done that is not being done already at other venues.....

Snowball me with ideas.....

You have a PM. Count me in and keep up the good work, as for ideas as what to do - again see the PM ;)

Cheers

Would much prefer to get everyone round a table to work out some ideas... brainstorming session.

Maybe the next forum meet as Classic Rock suggests?

First we have to work out who "THE MANAGEMENT" are going to be, that is the people who are going to finance the whole project. I have capital funds available myself and am commited to co-financing an ongoing regular event at a host venue, or co-finance buying a lease to a club. This will have to be done properly of course. There is little point in a free for all meeting of all interested parties unless we know what can be "afforded"....its no good setting up just a "free" or "cheap" night.....these things just dont make any money for promoters, only the host venue will profit. Neitherare they successful in the long term for the operators as someone else (venue owners) will be making the money from it. There are so many free and cheap nights that have come and gone over the last 10 years in Sheffield this bears my point. To make a successful ongoing event you need to, at the very least, own the rights to the event (to put it one way), and have full control over it is another. This is something that is very difficult to negotiate with a host venue....been there, certain clubs out there will blind you with what sounds like a freebie all the way, which it may appear to be, until you work out how much money they have actually taken indirectly from you. It hurts...

So that I know the targets, anyone who would be willing to consider investment (what a scary word) in a joint venture please let me know ASAP. What will follow then is thorough research into the specified market as it currently stands and see what comes out as obvious....and it WILL be obvious! I still want to run a night-club, but its such an unpredictable market, as I am sure you are aware.

Just how much any one is prepared to invest in this as a business venture (which is is) is something we need to consider immediately. A lease for club is on the surface amazingly cheap, until you consider the 'hidden'costs of operation on a day to day basis. But it can be done...and it will be done.

Which nightclubs in Sheffield are currently empty?

For me it all depends on the amount of investment we're talking about, I for one don't have great amounts of money but if this proves to be a good investment then I will strongly consider anything.

DeeJ :D

Pm me with any info anyway mate.

Ooh, I remember a little website for the Friday Rocknight three years ago before I went to Sheffield uni. Would be good to have somewhere that's not overrun by underage kids (I'm assuming you're marketing to a higher class than Corp).

:D This post is purely intended on showing the other side of the story - you don't have to buy into a club to get what you want from it!! :D


"I think you may have some different ideas on what constitutes a 'rock night' to the rest of us... I believe we weren't intending on buying/ renting a club initially, more of offering an alternative evening for fans of alternative/rock music...

Originally posted by snowboarder
There is little point in a free for all meeting of all interested parties unless we know what can be "afforded"...

I disagree. I think it's important to get all the ideas down on paper first, and then work out what can be afforded from the list. It gives you clearer goal-setting and allows proposals to be sent to financial organisations.

...its no good setting up just a "free" or "cheap" night.....these things just dont make any money for promoters...

?Why run a free night? Using an existing venue doesn't mean you have to set up a 'free' night...

To make a successful ongoing event you need to, at the very least, own the rights to the event (to put it one way), and have full control over it is another. This is something that is very difficult to negotiate with a host venue...

I think you may have had an unusually bad experience on this one. If you are referring to setting up a night at an existing venue, without purchasing a premises, then I have a different experience... I managed to negotiate a fair 50/50 split of takings with the club I ran my old night at, without any difficulty or 'loss of control'. We set up as an independant promotion org paying 'rental' for use of the venue on a night they weren't running anything on. Went rather well for at least 6 months, but we then disbanded the night and the group due to moving away (to sheffield, on my part)." [/rant]


Having said all this I'm up for helping market, promote, plan and startegise your plans, but would not want to invest! I also dj thrash, metal, hardcore and classic rock music...

Originally posted by SilentStatic
Ooh, I remember a little website for the Friday Rocknight three years ago before I went to Sheffield uni. Would be good to have somewhere that's not overrun by underage kids (I'm assuming you're marketing to a higher class than Corp).

Wow, someone remembers THE FRIDAY ROCK NIGHT? It was rather shortlived owing to venues kicking us out....I agree, something a little more sophisticated than the Corp for want a better expression...or certainly something BETTER.

I am going down the CORP this Saturday night if anyone else is....what a great place for a beer and chat.....its my birthday and I will not be drinking lots of lager.......hmmmmm

Lots of ideas here which is good. You are right, perhaps I did have bad experiences with other venues. All I managed to find was greedy entertainments managers trying to fleece us.....its good to know not ALL clubs are the same....not wanting to use a Corporation tagline there it just came out...

I am at the CORP saturday night....come on down and we can laugh at the 12 year olds....

Might have done, but I'm going to Rescue Rooms in Nottm. Perhaps next week.

Hello , I'm John.
I'm interested but skint. Let me know when the meeting is.
Cheers.

I PMed you, Snowboarder - def interested in being kept up to date and getting involved.

excellant people. I tell you what someone can do if anyone is up for a bit of detailed research and that is find out which venues are free on which nights of the week, and possibly get some details from them about hire prices, etc. I dont have time next week to do much as I am away for most of it, but will be accessing this forum every day. I am a bit out of date as to which clubs are closed/open, so it would be good to get the very latest information about clubs, especially anywhere recently closed or that is available (excluding Rebels). ALso be good to know EXACTLY (Corporation aside) what other rock or alternative or rock orientated events are running either at present or recently.....

Hey there...........What do you think you would to be able to offer that the Corp doesn't?.

so when are we all gonna meet up and have a civilised (hehe) chat about this then? first step is to see who the time wasters are and who really is interested in doing it :)
mimi
x

Went to the CORP on Saturday and it was total crap. Devoid of any atmosphere at all and pretty useless DJ's who could hardly work their equipment properly...

Now if anyone CANT do considerably better than the Corporation I would be very surprised indeed......


A meeting is a good idea but if anyone out there is going to sing the praises of the Corporation at me, please do it on another thread. The problem with that place is that is has no competition so it can afford to be totally complacent and run naff events. The whole place is a decrepid slum. My main criticism was the amateurish of some of the DJ's, with long gaps between tracks, jumping CD's, poor judgement of crowds, and the inability to match two tracks together with any kind of continuity. No, it was dreadful and also pretty empty for a saturday night.

saturdays at corporation are a joke. they are so bloody awful, its untrue. but if your wasted at corp on mondays, its actually bloody good. i had one of the best nights out ever last monday at corp, think its cos i was with my bestest mate in the whole world and we were ****** as farts, but saturdays at corp are a different thing altogether.

ANYWAY!!

i reckon we should meet sooner rather than later, while people have the passion to act on their ideas etc

mimi
x

not been on MONDAYS must give it a try....perhaps meeting up for a few jars of ale somewhere and doing just that soon.....does everyone go in the Devonshire Cat first?

yep they do, how about monday the 28th of june or friday the 2nd of July? all go to the dev cat then off to the mighty corp?

Monday 2nd JUly OK with me...what about anyone else?? A few cool pints of real ale in the Dev will sort me out nicely.....

I will probably be there on the 28th, and most likely the 2nd as well, isn't there a thread already about peeps going to corp on the 2nd july?

Might be a good night all in all, full of kids though, still I can't complain about that, most of thme don't cause trouble or act stupid.

Wilf

MONDAY JULY 5th 8PM DEVONSHIRE CAT

Anyone wanting to PLAN a new rock night in Sheffield is welcome to join me at 8pm in the Devonshire CAT...that is anyone who wants to help run and promote it. Decided against leasing a club, its far too risky in the current market, so we need to discuss hiring an existing venue on a regular basis and creating something that will kick!! Also consider the poss of using an existing rock bar as a feeder...

Initial ideas will be a free for all approach so please bring some. As we get nearer to MONDAY July 5th need to have a rough idea of numbers....too many and no one will be able to make themselves heard...too few and probably not a lot will happen. There is no point in everyone bringing all their friends along unless they have an active interest and comitment in running the events.

So all those interested in planning, starting, running, promoting, even financing it, the above date, place and time is suggested.
At this stage if we can get some good plans together and a totally viable project with some chance of suceess I will finance the entire project and cover all costs, but it will be better if we form a co-operative and all assume collective responsibility.

Continue this thread with more thoughts.....

Hey again.

Can you put your finger on why the corp has no atmosphere?. I'm not agreeing, disagreeing or trying to be antagonistic. Simply trying to promote thought, if you know what the corp lacks then you know what you need to provide.

Why does the corp lack atmosphere and what would you do to give it atmosphere if you were in the position?. Probably not a good idea to say it out loud......the walls have ears :)).

Yes walls do have ears..HALLO CORPORATION!!!!! Doesnt matter, they will never change and havnt changed their approach in 8 years.....

My thoughts are really that is is such a faceless and impersonal venue, not at all intimate or cosy feeling, just a total shed! That is my main criticism (aside from crap DJs), atmosphere is an elusive something that is very diff to pin down specifically.

Have u been to SPIDERS in Hull? Now that has atmosphere, and despite being a dingy fleapit it has a real presence about it.

My other critiques would be the TERRIBLE classic rock room, which has totally failed to understand its audience. Hardly anyone was dancing, the music was just stuff from someones own personal music tastes, and not what I would call a floorfilling DJ set. Hence, bored looking punters....****** off looking people create a gloomy atmosphere....

Their was one room which was the former classic rock room which did not seem to have a clue what it was doing at all.....about 5 people in all night looking bored......

Think it used to better a year or so back....it just feels so complacent and bored with itself....they are making money and have really stopped caring as they no longer have to work for it...

So any new rock night:
a) HAS to be be totally different to what the Corp are doing
b) HAS to strive to create this elusive "atmosphere" or coolness within its marketing, decor, music policy, target audience etc
c) HAS to be fresh and exciting each time, and not fall into a very easy sliding slippery slope of same music every week with same playlists in the same order, or DJ's just playign what the hell they feel like..


comments...

I think that you have to be clear on who your market is. If its "Classic Rock" - then your crowd will be older and probably wont go out as much - but when they do go out - will probably spend a lot at the bar.

The reason that Corp shifted its emphasis to nu metal, and the average aged dropped by about twenty years, it cos thats quite literally what the kids want - and overall numbers went up as a result. I'm sure if Mutley thought there was money to be made in going all out for the classic rock crwod - he'd be well onto it.

Whatever you may think of Corp - Mutley knows his audience - now the audience may not be who you want to spend your sat nights with - and your doing something about that - so good luck - but i wouldnt be too dismissive of Corp (apart from the bogs...)

Saturday night? Not sure about that..........all needs to be gone into.

But you are right of course...although the average age at the Corp has always been about 12....even when it was DROP at the City hall in the mid 90's it was still young crowd......

My problem with the Corporation is -

a) The decor is crap. The place has no atmosphere because, as previously stated, its just a big shed. I agree that Spiders in Hull is much more intimate. It has lots of wrought iron partitions, pictures on the walls, alcoves with comfy seats to sit down and chat, dark corners etc. The Corporation in comparison is too "roomy" and empty. It has improved a little since it first moved to the unit, with the art on some of the walls, and the inclusion of a few seats downstairs. I'd like to see much more of this kind of thing though. It's nice to sit somewhere out of the way where you can talk and chill out for a while, and currently in the Corporation the only place to do this is in the corridors, which are filthy and don't have any seats. The old Corporation was better for this, as there were comfy sofa's and tables in the main corridor, the dark chill out room with comfy seats, a decent partitioned room with playstations and more seats etc.

b) Some of the previous crowd has probably been alienated. I totally understand that most of the money may lie with the younger crowd that have only ever known the Corps at the Unit, with the dancefloor emptying when older rock and metal is played. I don't think in some other venues this is a problem though, as both crowds are catered for. I feel that when I want to go and listen to some classic rock/metal in the Corporation that I am forced into going into one of the "gloomy", crappy rooms. Nobody wants to spend time in a club where the atmosphere is lacking (see above), and I think if the interior was updated and made to look more welcoming and less "boxy" and empty, some of the older crowd might be enticed back. The old Corporation had a really good room for Reservoir Rocks - really big dancefloor, nice lighting, seats, nice looking bar, big Diner nearby etc. These are lacking in the new Corp and I think it puts off some of the older crowd.

These are just a couple of my observations, and I would love to see a venue that takes some of this on board. Maybe its unrealistic, maybe not. For now, my favorite haunt is the Nelson in town.

THE NELSON....must admit it was quite good last saturday, went downstairs where DJ Lez was on the decks....pretty cool....nice venue if a bit tiny

Can't make the 5th July - got other commitments already... definitely in for whatever though, so keep me informed!! :cool:

It's not the 'nu-metal' that makes corp bad, it's the way they give the largest room in the building to the glam/cheese crowd on a saturday that gets my goat... all the good heavy stuff is in the tiny-dancefloored upstairs.

Much preferred the last venue, and feel the Djs aren't as creative as they should be. I'm sick of the whole 'Stop record/ Start new one' culture that pervades heavy rock club nights. I can mix rock records together - why can't they? Makes the whole evening more of an experience than just a drunken binge...

Originally posted by snowboarder
THE NELSON....must admit it was quite good last saturday, went downstairs where DJ Lez was on the decks....pretty cool....nice venue if a bit tiny

Is that Lez from Rebels - is he still around??

Originally posted by jake
Is that Lez from Rebels - is he still around??


Yes Lez from Rebels and the Classic Rock Bar. Used to work with him at the ROXY for a stint in 1996....must be one of SHeffields longest running rock DJ's aside from DJ Ken (wapentake, Boardwalk.

STOP PRESS: Cant make it tonight got to sort out some figures for Mr TAX man and he dont like mistakes!!!!

Will be in THE NELSON on Thursday night downstairs, as DJ KEN from Under the Boardwalk will be making his Nelson debut on the decks with some classic rock. (At least I think he said the NELSON, might have been the SPORTSMAN but I dont think they do discos anymore.) Twice a month on a thursday night....might pick up and be very popular.

Downstairs at the Nelson on Sat nights with DJ LEZ is pretty cool....see a lot of faces have not seen for MANY years. Wipes the floor with the old SPortsman scene in my opinion...

I am interested Snow.........but dont finish work till 7pm......what time is the meeting kicking off?

More of a "social" than a meeting. I dont know anyone on this forum (at least I think I dont) so if you know me come and say hi. I may know some of you...just not by name.

ok kewl.......try n see ya there :P

damn! I have only just seen this thread. My internet has not been working, so not been able to check the board very often. Would have been interested, but it seems i am too late. So how did the meeting go?

Yes, I'd be interested to know what happened in that meeting as I have just been reading through all the threads since Ms Piggy's original query about Rebels.

You've certainly stirred some memories Ms.

:headbang:

No one turned up.......oh well.......
p[erhaps meeting in a pub is a bad idea...too much drinking.....not that that is a bad thing though....

Sheffield needs it....went to the CORP sat night and it was the most dire club experience I have ever had to date. The DJ's were totally **** beyond belief, and the long gaps between the trax was really them taking the **** out of everyone, including themselves. Sorry but its got sooooo bad now I wont be going again...the dreadful classic rock room played everything BUT classic rock, a room I hate anyway due to its barn like dimensions, lack of acoustic properties and stupid central standing/leaning area where it just looks like a bus station gone mad. hate it.....

A friend of mine was up from London so took them there...should have known better. They also agreed it was the worst clubbing epxerience ever experienced! Wish we had gone down the Leadmill.....not rock of course but a much better feel to the place than that total ****hole Corp.

Hey I love rock....it MUST be dire for me to insult the place.
Hey Corp......just a tip......for Gods sake refurbish the venue and create a decent atmosphere in each room, and close down that dreadful barn like room and put classic rock back in the smaller room where at least it had a vague atmosphere. More murals, more colour, more lighting...the light rigs are pathetic....and also paint and muralise those horrible corridors....

spend some money you cheapskates!!!! You take enough so give the kids something better than a a club resembling a burnt out derelict prison....

That is so sad.

Don't the Leadmill do a rock night? If they don't, why don't you ask them to. I'm sure that if they thought it would pay they'd do it.

Hmmm.

Scrub that last suggestion. I just looked at their web site.

Hey Snowboarder........i guess everyone has good intentions including me....i wanna help ya get this idea off the ground.....but at moment i am broke......if u wanna go over a few ideas lets meet for a beer on saturday? Grapes?........there is some decent live bands n we can have a beer and chat bout it........i went out last saturday to meet a mate.......ended up staying out till 2am......got dragged to Casbah :( i felt like crying in the corner........so gimme a post or a email and let me know if ya can make it?

That goes for anyone thats interested...........and lets be honest whats the worst that can happen ya give up an hr out of ya life that you would probaley waste at the Corp........heh

well if ya fancy a meet up, how about a weekend. perhaps people would be able to make it then. I will be about next week. especially at the weekend(thursday 22 to Sunday 25 July)we could meet up and talk about ideas. If you wanna meet, pm me with your mobile number and name and we can arrange something.
So who can make it?

Yeah I asked about rebels because from what i have heard it was a good night. Alot of people would like a night like that again. I think to get people to go to rock night these days, it has to be a mixture of everything, to do something for everyone, ok so thats not excatly easy, but who knowes.

I think the nights were better when Drop was at City Hall and when reservoir rocks was at NMB, better amtompshere i think.
Could just be me tho.

Does anyone remember a night called Slackers?

SLACKER...yes...THE LEADMILL...Hmmm.....
A bit about that. When we were looking for a host venue for our Friday rock night about 3 years ago, I approached the Leadmill and had a chat with Rupert and Sue, who practically run the place now. They liked my rock night idea and we got to costing it up and working on a name for it....and then.....I had a polite phone call telling me it was not going ahead as the Leadmill felt no market for rock music anymore.. (joke?)

After I gave them all my ideas which club do you then think decided to run a rocknight by themselves and call it their own idea? Yes, u guessed it THE LEADMILL, and they called it SLACKER. They even pinched my slogan for it!!!!!! I was soo ****** off but incredibly difficult to prove, just mere "coincidence" said The leadmill. coincidence my arse


Saturday night yes, confirm a venue for sure, wont be doing the CORP though.....not that desperate

Well i remember Slackers when it was at replublic, it was nothing to get in with flyers, then you had to pay £1 to get in and then when people had to pay, they seemed to stop going, then the night stopped and after a long while moved to leadmill, i never went to it when it was at leadmill. What happened to that night anyway?

I AM GOING OUT SATURDAY NIGHT (not CORP) anyone out and fancy a chat email me directly on

rockissodammkool@surfchicks.fmgirl.com

Aqua formerly Roundhouse underneath Ponds Forge is free the third Friday in every month, also Monday - Thursday every week, contact The Leadmill ho now run the venue 0114 2212 828

Originally posted by snowboarder
I AM GOING OUT SATURDAY NIGHT (not CORP) anyone out and fancy a chat email me directly on

rockissodammkool@surfchicks.fmgirl.com

Where you off to?

Originally posted by miss_piggy
Where you off to?

open to suggestions......dont know really.....

Originally posted by Darren
Aqua formerly Roundhouse underneath Ponds Forge is free the third Friday in every month, also Monday - Thursday every week, contact The Leadmill ho now run the venue 0114 2212 828


What does anyone think of AQUA venue? Is it appro for a rock night? Not sure if its location and layout would do much for a rock night, but comments please......I worked there for 3 months when it was the Roundhouse DJ'ing TOP BANANA as it was called then...an 80's night. Wierd place....

To be honest i am unsure if that really would be an ideal place for a rock night because of the location really and the fact that they are not really any rock pubs close by, which is a shame. Do not think people would go.

me neither.......too much of a wierd location. If Under the Boardwalk were still open it would be ideal as its sort of across the road a bit....well across quite a few roads and a bit but only 5-6 mins trot. Still. must think closer to the main area...if only YORKS was still available (Charles street club) I was SO close to signing contracts for that in 2001 if it had not have been for a very large wobbly fat man with gold rimmed glasses migrating a certain well known gay club to the venue (who then sold out afterwards...dont think it ever became a gay club at all)

Yeah under the boardwalk would have been a ideal place for a rock night, i mean people came when corp was on bank street, so where wouldn't they come there, however it can not get a late license, which is a shame. Oh well. There has to be a venue somewhere that would work well.
If this night is to work, may be best to start off small and then go for bigger things when we know it is working i.e a club venue. Perhaps a pub that has a late license or somewhere like the NMB would host it.

The NMB is up for demolition this september as the Hallam Union mnove to NCPM. Now they might be worth approaching. I dont know anyone there at the moment but I will email the Union and see what they have available. They will run their own friday/saturday night events but they may have plenty of spare rooms for club nights in their new venue......


ideas...keep em coming.

I AM IN TOWN MONDAY NIGHT FOR SURE. DISCUSSION? pm ME IF YOU WANT TO MEET IN TOWN MONDAY NIGHT FOR A FEW JARS OF ALE AND BIT OF ROCK N ROLL TALK.

Originally posted by snowboarder
The NMB is up for demolition this september as the Hallam Union mnove to NCPM. Now they might be worth approaching. I dont know anyone there at the moment but I will email the Union and see what they have available. They will run their own friday/saturday night events but they may have plenty of spare rooms for club nights in their new venue......


ideas...keep em coming.

I AM IN TOWN MONDAY NIGHT FOR SURE. DISCUSSION? pm ME IF YOU WANT TO MEET IN TOWN MONDAY NIGHT FOR A FEW JARS OF ALE AND BIT OF ROCK N ROLL TALK.

How come the NMB is up demolition?
Where is the NCPM then?

I can not make monday, not going to be around. Will be around from thursday 22 July to 25 july. Anyone able to meet then?

NCPM-National Center For Popular Music, AKA the big kettle-looking things across the road from the showroom cinema.

Wondered what was going to happen to that. Could be worth looking into, they may want to hold a rock night there.

Doubt it miss piggy, they used to have Revolt on at the NMB on wednesdays but that died a death a few months ago. Pity, it was a good laugh but nobody went...which is probably why I liked it so much. That's a big ole dance floor to have all to oneself :) :)

Its not easy the night club game........

the NMB should be knocked down later this year once the Hallam Union have moved out properly. Actually the place will prob fall down its such a state now....

but the NCPM is worth a try....its a "cool" location (apparently) and should become a popular gig and club venue.

Anyone know which clubs are free Friday nights at the moment? My listings are all out of date, but things change so fast now I guess nothing is ever up to date.......

You're right, it's a good location. That's the problem, rock's a niche market and hasn't exactly been shown a lot of respect by the hallam uni (from what i hear anyway). I doubt you would get a night worth having(fri,sat,mon). If a club like that's got enough clout to pull people in on a more genera night then they'll choose it every time.

I could most definately be wrong though, it would even be nice to be proved wrong :)

Anyone up for a new rock club-night? I need a list of which nightclubs are free on Friday nights. There seem to be a few not doing anything. ..any research you can do will be appreciated. If anyone out there has real enthuiasm to do some first hand research into this (Alive listings are out of date) please get on the case. I need a list of free venues, although probably most of them will have plans for autumn relaunches of crappy dance nights, but its a start

Well i know uropa is not been used at the moment, however thats next to what used to be berlins.(now called purple)
There is also the ncpm that may be worth looking into. I had a look outside the other day, got some numbers. Not sure if there are the right ones tho, altho it may be worth phoning the numbers to find out what is going on.
I am sure there are other clubs. Will do a search and see what i come up with.

Cant say I can remember what UROPA looks like inside? Can anyone remember its interior? Classy? Crap?

Originally posted by miss_piggy
I had a look outside the other day, got some numbers. Not sure if there are the right ones tho, altho it may be worth phoning the numbers to find out what is going on.
I am sure there are other clubs. Will do a search and see what i come up with.

The NCPM is currently being refurbished & will be moved into by Hallam Students Union later this year - I'd imagine they'd continue to run their normal student nights on fri & sat - but will probably be up for hire deals during the week or holidays.

Need a weekend venue.......weeknight events have always been poorly attended.......it has to be a Friday or Saturday night to really work.

SDOrry bout the delay Snowstill alittle snowed under :p.......ok bad joke....Reflexes looks like it might not be a bad venue also........The Club bed seems to be either closed or not in use........its got a more gothicy appeal but it might make a good little venue? what ya reckon?

Bed would be a brill venue, not sure whats going on with the venue tho. got a massive room and a small one if i remember correctly.

Is Bed still closed? Bit out of touch not been down there for ages....it used to have one huge downstairs room and a smaller upstairs venue, formerly known as Treetops (I used to work there....wow, long time ago). The last time I went in there was a a very scary 11 years ago when they used to run a weekly rock night there which I cant recall the name of....weeknight event I think, anyone recall? 1993 time, it did not run into 94 as I recall. LOCARNO was the name of the club back then, before it became the Music Factory. It was VERY tacky and full of plastic palm trees and huge moulded coconut shells........dont recall much about the rock night though........

this is the pre reservoir rocks days, pre corporation and pre Drop era, when Rebels was on its last legs.

Originally posted by snowboarder
The last time I went in there was a a very scary 11 years ago when they used to run a weekly rock night there which I cant recall the name of....weeknight event I think, anyone recall? 1993 time, it did not run into 94 as I recall.

this is the pre reservoir rocks days, pre corporation and pre Drop era, when Rebels was on its last legs.

There used to be a goth/alt/rock night on a tuesday run by Tony - or Dr Dethtone as he was then - was it called something like Sinergy? Supernaught the Sabbath cover by 10 000 Homo Djs seemed to be abit of an anthem if I remember correctly through those drunken 50p a pint nights...

There may have been a fri alt/rock night as well - as I can vaguely remember chatting up this girl and being asked by a drunk townie lad from behind (I'm small with long fair hair) "what are two nice girls like you doing in a place like this?" - the look on his face when he realised I was male was priceless..

BTW Corp may come in for a bit of critisism - but I think people forget quite how rubbish Rebels actually was!

sorry for going off on a tangent - but got me reminiscing!

Was it called Pally's or something at some point. I remember it being a very northern sounding name anyway :)

It was the first place I ever went in sheffield when I used to visit back in ole 93. Can't remember what night it was though.

THE PALAIS....yes it was called that for a year or so in 92/3/4. That was the club name, not the rock night.

BTW Corp may come in for a bit of critisism - but I think people forget quite how rubbish Rebels actually was!

sorry for going off on a tangent - but got me reminiscing! [/B]


Hmmmmm....I never recall REBELS being rubbish!!! I dont think I ever had a bad night there. It was a slum yes, but a slum with an ATMOSPHERE!!!!! The Corp is just a slum, devoid of atmos totally.