I am researching the Womersley family who lived in the Chapeltown / Burncross area of Sheffield specifically in the 1800's. Susannah Womersley was my g grandmother ( born 1866 ) and her parents were Charles and Eliza Womersley . I would be very grateful for any researched information that anyone may have relating to this family . Thanks.

Possible burial for Charles, age 68, Chapeltown 3 dec 1884, address given as Loundside.

I knew a Kathleen Emma Womersley From Hallwood Road.
Any relation?

Possible burial for Charles, age 68, Chapeltown 3 dec 1884, address given as Loundside.
Thanks for that - that would have been Susannah's father - my gg grandfather ! He was born in 1817 I believe . Are you researching the family also ?

I knew a Kathleen Emma Womersley From Hallwood Road.
Any relation?
Could be a more recent relative but haven't got that far down the tree yet ! Thanks for your interest anyway !

Keep me informed please would you? I think they lived at 112 Hallwood road. I was the boyfriend of Kathleen. This was in 1979.
There was another Womersley across the road from them, not related as far as Im aware and he was a manager For yorkshire Water.

Keep me informed please would you? I think they lived at 112 Hallwood road. I was the boyfriend of Kathleen. This was in 1979.
There was another Womersley across the road from them, not related as far as Im aware and he was a manager For yorkshire Water.
I will ! I'm still working my way through the 1800's at the moment but I'm sure I'll work my way forwards to the 1970's eventually ! Thanks again !

Have pm'd you burials.

I'm just looking at an old school photograph of my class from 1976, and there's an Ann(e?) Womersley on that photograph!

PT

I'm just looking at an old school photograph of my class from 1976, and there's an Ann(e?) Womersley on that photograph!

PT
Could be another one for the 20th century tree ! Thanks for the post !

The Womersleys are a long standing Burncross family, so I'm guessing that you are one of the Burncross lot?

Shame to see flats being built on the house on Hallwood. Everything changes :)

Flats? on Hallwood road?

On Womersleys bungalow just above Bracken Hill.

Oh I see.
Its been decades since I was around there. I used to go out with a Womersley who lived further up the road than the bungalow there. Im not even sure theyre there anymore, the last I was of them was back in `81. I know that Mick Womersley, my ex girlfriends brother lived in... I forget the name now... the little village with the sharp S bend in it thats on the way to Thurgoland. Just over the bridge that crosses the Stocksbridge bypass.
This is interesting stuff. I knew the Womersleys were well known in that area, but I didnt realise exactly how big.

The Womersleys are a long standing Burncross family, so I'm guessing that you are one of the Burncross lot?

Shame to see flats being built on the house on Hallwood. Everything changes :)
Have only just started researching this side of the family and I live at the other side of town from Burncross ! What house was at Hallwood ?

By the way , the earliest Womersley I have traced so far is Charles Womersley born in 1796 who lived on Loundside with his wife Hannah and his 6 children Charles ( there are loads of Charles' ), Rebecca, George, Christiana, Elizabeth and Mary. All the men were iron moulders. My great grandmother was Susannah Womersley and she was born in 1866.

Well the Womersley I knew was called Charles Micheal. Im working form a distant memory here because I only went out with his daughter Kathleen for about 8 months.
I think his son, Kathleens brother was called Micheal charles, and from what I remember hes now at the little village I mentioned near to Thurgoland.

The tradition of calling all the boy childs Charles lives on then !

You might be as well getting over to Burncross and finding a few of them to save time. There are lots, and many were involved in Burncross Methodist Chapel next to the Crown & Cushion on Chapel Rd. The chapel was knocked down a few years ago and 3 houses are in it's place.:(

From memory it was David Womersley that last lived in the bungalow (I may be wrong). He was a teacher at Windmill Hill Junior School, but he will be getting on a bit now if he's still around. A proper gentleman, and after retirement he was something of a local artist from memory. I would sometimes bump into him while he was out and about with his easel. These clues might jog somebody else's memory, but I think that he will be the 'elder' of the family these days.

2 sons... Mark was one perhaps? Would be coming up to 40 now. Again, that might help.

All in all they were / are very nice, what I call "proper" people.

I remember Kathleens father had a gypsy wagon built for him, he owned a couple of horses and each Saturday he would take Kathleen and myself for a ride into Thurgoland in a little governesses wagon to collect home made porkpies from a butchers there.
They were a lovely family even though Kathleens mother hated the very ground I walked on because I was from Parson Cross, and as such, not good enough for her daugthter.

This is surprising because I always thought that the name Womersley was a rare one.

Thanks for that Tony ! I already feel proud to be distantly related to them ! This is all such interesting information about my family and I will be grateful for any more that anyone can post !

I also vaguely remember them telling me that they had family in Scarborough too.

Fancy a day out in Scarborough then Jabberwocky ?

Fancy a day out in Scarborough then Jabberwocky ?
Been there, done that and wrote a story about it! It was the most hellish week of my life! Mrs Womersley REALLY stitched me up that week.

I just remembered something else.
Im going to add to this each time a new memory pops up, I hope you dont mind.
But.
The Womersley who lived across the road from Kathleen was one of the big bosses for Yorkshire water. I used to work for YW at that time and I remember asking Kathleens dad if they were related.
He said no they werent.
So theres a chance that either he was wrong or there are more than one Womersley branches in that area, not related. I wonder which branch your researching. This is fascinating stuff isnt it.

I am beginning to realise what a big family they must be ! At this stage I have no idea which branch I am related to but when I find out - you will be the first to know jabberwocky !

Thanks for that, I`d be interested to know. I just hope Im not confusing matters with all my rambling memories.

Not at all ! 'ramblinh memories' are good !

Daven. I have sent you an e. mail. Have a look, it might help. Some of these statements are not really right, but time does cloud memories. N.Womersley

Oh I see.
Its been decades since I was around there. I used to go out with a Womersley who lived further up the road than the bungalow there. Im not even sure theyre there anymore, the last I was of them was back in `81. I know that Mick Womersley, my ex girlfriends brother lived in... I forget the name now... the little village with the sharp S bend in it thats on the way to Thurgoland. Just over the bridge that crosses the Stocksbridge bypass.
This is interesting stuff. I knew the Womersleys were well known in that area, but I didnt realise exactly how big.
Wortley!
I remembered.

i know a pete womersley a good pal of mine

Do you know if he knows anything about his family history ?

no sorry but he is a butcher

Thamks for that ! I'll note it down !

[QUOTE=Jabberwocky]Wortley!
I remembered.[/QUOTE
Mick still lives in Wortley and his Mum still lives on Hallwood Road,He would be good to talk to cos he's big on family history and the like and he has a great memory of past times.

Well if anyone DOES talk to them, it wouldnt be a good idea to mention me, because Mrs Womersley hated me with a passion, and from what I could make out from things that Kathleen told me, for years afterwards, anything bad that happened in the area or to their family was blamed on me, even though I wasnt even in Sheffield!
For example, in 1982 Mick was beaten up in town by a bunch of yobs and I was instantly blamed, Kathleen phoned me to ask me why I had done this.
She knew that beating someone up is the last thing Id do but her mother had convinced her so much that even she started to believe it.

Its good to know that Mick and his Mother are still there though, and Im dreading to ask about Mr Womersley, I was very fond of him and Im assuming that hes passed away?
I last saw Kathleen in around 1982 or 83, she was engaged and still as pretty as she was when I went out with her. I wonder how shes going on, and I hope shes happy. Its odd to think about her after all these years, and to think that shes now almost 50, and in all probability a grandmother, makes me feel very very old.

This might not be useful information but I just remembered, one of the Womersleys was the governess of Borneo, Kathleens grandmother I think.
Thats just a memory and im not sure if theres going to be any more along those lines, but it might be something to work on as you do your research.

Actually it was Allan Womersley, not David. We don't have a David. Allan is my Father's brother, and is around 70 now. He still paints. He has been retired many years now from Windmill School. Sorry, but he has never lived in a bungalow either. He has three sons not two. James, John and Peter.

Governess of Borneo ! This is getting really interesting now !

Well if anyone DOES talk to them, it wouldnt be a good idea to mention me, because Mrs Womersley hated me with a passion, and from what I could make out from things that Kathleen told me, for years afterwards, anything bad that happened in the area or to their family was blamed on me, even though I wasnt even in Sheffield!
For example, in 1982 Mick was beaten up in town by a bunch of yobs and I was instantly blamed, Kathleen phoned me to ask me why I had done this.
She knew that beating someone up is the last thing Id do but her mother had convinced her so much that even she started to believe it.

Its good to know that Mick and his Mother are still there though, and Im dreading to ask about Mr Womersley, I was very fond of him and Im assuming that hes passed away?
I last saw Kathleen in around 1982 or 83, she was engaged and still as pretty as she was when I went out with her. I wonder how shes going on, and I hope shes happy. Its odd to think about her after all these years, and to think that shes now almost 50, and in all probability a grandmother, makes me feel very very old.
Funnily enough I saw Mick's wife Janice today and mentioned that there was a thread on SF about the Womersley's and someone called jabberwocky used to date his sister - she wants to know who you are!!!!!!!
Yes Mr womersley died (I Think) last year,time goes so quickly.
As for Mick you would enjoy talking to him, he's a real characteur.

Governess of Borneo ! This is getting really interesting now !

I am off on holiday for a week but when I get back I will ask Mick Womersley if this rings a bell -,watch this space!!!!!!!

Actually it was Allan Womersley, not David. We don't have a David. Allan is my Father's brother, and is around 70 now. He still paints. He has been retired many years now from Windmill School. Sorry, but he has never lived in a bungalow either. He has three sons not two. James, John and Peter.

hehe, I did note say that my memory was hazy :D Thanks for that, I'm really pleased to know that he's still around and about. :thumbsup:

Funnily enough I saw Mick's wife Janice today and mentioned that there was a thread on SF about the Womersley's and someone called jabberwocky used to date his sister - she wants to know who you are!!!!!!!
Yes Mr womersley died (I Think) last year,time goes so quickly.
As for Mick you would enjoy talking to him, he's a real characteur.
Well Mick will remember my real name and not with any fondness.
As I mentioned earlier, they thought I was Satan.
Its sad to hear that Mr Womersley died, he was a lovely lovely man.
Actually they were a lovely family, when I dated his sis I was an 18 year old so I suppose I could have earned the Satan tag.
Its good to hear about them though.

Governess of Borneo ! This is getting really interesting now !
The gig that Mr Womersley used to take us into Thurgoland in to collect pork pies was a Governesses gig, I asked about it once and Kathleen told me that it had been transported in from Borneo, then told me about her governess ancestor.

The gig that Mr Womersley used to take us into Thurgoland in to collect pork pies was a Governesses gig, I asked about it once and Kathleen told me that it had been transported in from Borneo, then told me about her governess ancestor.

I will ask Mick if he knows the Borneo connection and let you know.

I will ask Mick if he knows the Borneo connection and let you know.
Ok thanks for that. It should be interesting.

I will ask Mick if he knows the Borneo connection and let you know.
Don't forget to let me know too !

Don't forget to let me know too !
That goes without saying!:hihi:

Thamks for that ! I'll note it down !


Did you manage to read the E. Mail? I forgot to say that my Grandmother's (Ann Womersley) family was called Hine. Don't know if that helps, or that her married sister was Alice Needham - NW

Did you manage to read the E. Mail? I forgot to say that my Grandmother's (Ann Womersley) family was called Hine. Don't know if that helps, or that her married sister was Alice Needham - NW
All the info you have given me is very useful Nigel - thanks . I will let you know of anything else I discover ! I'm busy with other projects at the moment but will get back to the Womersleys soon ! Daven

i knew derek womersly in 70`s .he had a book published about sheffield dialect. i think it was called ...SHEFFIELDISH .

My aunt (on my mother's side) Olive Portman married David Fenby Womersley, born 1899 in Grenoside. David was your great grandmother Susannah's nephew. His father was Charles Womersley born 1861 in Grenoside, married to Sarah. Charles's father was Charles Womersley born 1817 in Ecclesfield, married to Eliza. They had 7 children: Charles; Joseph b. 1863; Susannah born 1866; George b. 1870; Dora b. 1873; Frank b. 1875; and Rebecca b. 1876. Susannah (born at Chapeltown) married John Fox on 1 Jan 1889 and they had 4 children: Charles b. 1890; Alice b. 1894; Florence b. 1896; and Joseph b. 1899. Joseph married Ida Ellison, my great aunt on my father's side! I'm therefore connected to the Womersleys in two different directions and so you and I must be related somehow! best wishes, Joy.

Thanks for that Joy - have sent you an e-mail !

Any updates on this yet?

Yes, amomgst other things it turns out that Joy is my half cousin ! Her grandmother was my grandmothers sister 1

I am researching the Womersley family who lived in the Chapeltown / Burncross area of Sheffield specifically in the 1800's. Susannah Womersley was my g grandmother ( born 1866 ) and her parents were Charles and Eliza Womersley . I would be very grateful for any researched information that anyone may have relating to this family . Thanks.

Hi Daven,

just a word of warning. There is some confusion with the name of this family in the old records. At some point in the history of the family, they were recorded as Wornersley. One of my ancestors was Sarah Wornersley born in Chapletown in 1813. Her parents were William Wornersley born 1795 and mother Ann Marsh born 1797.

Hi Daven,

just a word of warning. There is some confusion with the name of this family in the old records. At some point in the history of the family, they were recorded as Wornersley. One of my ancestors was Sarah Wornersley born in Chapletown in 1813. Her parents were William Wornersley born 1795 and mother Ann Marsh born 1797.

The earliest record of my surname is in 1086, when it was written as Wilmeresledge. In 1501 it was Wommersley. In 1509 there was a reference to John Womersley at the Court of Henry V111. Hannah Womersley is recorded as having married Edward Bunn 1n 1789. Reference books show the name to have originated from the village of Womersley, between Doncaster and Pontefract.

It's only a name, irrespective of the spelling. The Womersleys are just the same as other families - no difference at all. We all have to be called something. A friend of mine is called Whomersley. Regards Nigel Womersley.

hello
I am also researching the Womersley connection.
My email is janetrworrall@tiscali.co.uk, which I would prefer
you to use.

My g g grandmother was Susanna Womersley Auntie of the Susanna Womersley mentioned and her mother born 1796 was Hannah.

Thanks

Hi I went to school with a Brian Womersley who lived in Pitsmoor, Sytherland rd

Hi

I've traced my line of Womersleys back to 1515. The majority of them came from the Hartshead/Cleckheaton/Dewsbury area of West Yorkshire.

So does anyone know the meaning of the word "Womersley"? Its origins?

Hi

I've traced my line of Womersleys back to 1515. The majority of them came from the Hartshead/Cleckheaton/Dewsbury area of West Yorkshire.I'm related to the Womersleys at Hartshead. My cousin has a lot of info also going back to around about that date, it seems that they started in Hartshead area and someone migrated down to South Yorks in the 1800s. If anyone wants details please PM me and I'll pass email addys on.

Hi, I'm also descended from the Clifton/Hartshead Womersleys, any new information would be most gratefully received!!!!! I'm trying to make my tree as complete as possible....... Thanks!!

hello
I am also researching the Womersley connection.
My email is janetrworrall@tiscali.co.uk, which I would prefer
you to use.

My g g grandmother was Susanna Womersley Auntie of the Susanna Womersley mentioned and her mother born 1796 was Hannah.

Thanks
My most recent research shows that your gg grandmother Susannah, was my g grandmother Susannahs aunt ! My information is that your Susannah married George Davy in June 1840 and had 4 children - Albert abt 1845, Bertha abt 1847, Richard abt 1850 and Ann abt 1852. She died in 1853 aged only 31. Can you confirm this or add to it ?
Many thanks.

So does anyone know the meaning of the word "Womersley"? Its origins?

Apparently, in the Domesday book, the village of "Womersley" was entered as "Wilmer's Lea" presumably meaning Field of Wilmer (??) I'm guessing the name was changed over time into "Womersley" Hope that helps...!!!!

Apparently, in the Domesday book, the village of "Womersley" was entered as "Wilmer's Lea" presumably meaning Field of Wilmer (??) I'm guessing the name was changed over time into "Womersley" Hope that helps...!!!!
Thanks for that, Im always interested in the origins of words or names.

i knew derek womersly in 70`s .he had a book published about sheffield dialect. i think it was called ...SHEFFIELDISH .

pm me......i might have heard ov ya!

my step dad was Derek Whomersley

Apparently, in the Domesday book, the village of "Womersley" was entered as "Wilmer's Lea" presumably meaning Field of Wilmer (??) I'm guessing the name was changed over time into "Womersley" Hope that helps...!!!!

Have a look at my entry on the previous page - Thanks.

I recall a family of Womersleys living on Stradbroke Road at Richmond in a large Georgian house, formerly called Richmond Hill and which had been turned into a block of flats by the city council. This was in the mid to late 1950's and I think Mr Womersley had some sort of responsible position in the city architect's department.

Stradbroke School was built on the land which was originally attached to this property.

M

I recall a family of Womersleys living on Stradbroke Road at Richmond in a large Georgian house, formerly called Richmond Hill and which had been turned into a block of flats by the city council. This was in the mid to late 1950's and I think Mr Womersley had some sort of responsible position in the city architect's department.

Stradbroke School was built on the land which was originally attached to this property.

M

If he was Lewis Womersley, he designed the Castle Market.

If he was Lewis Womersley, he designed the Castle Market.

Oh dear !!!!!

I have a George Whomersley born 1810 High Hoyland in 1861 is working as Toll Collector Chapeltown - would like to hear from anyone with links

Can you help I am at a stand still with a Mathew Womersley born 1802 Hartshead married to Anne Yates with childrens names Selina who married Samuel Binns, Ellen Yates,Hannah,David,Elizabeth,Joseph,and Benjamin Womersley. Mathew was a wiredrawer by trade I'm related to the Womersleys at Hartshead. My cousin has a lot of info also going back to around about that date, it seems that they started in Hartshead area and someone migrated down to South Yorks in the 1800s. If anyone wants details please PM me and I'll pass email addys on.

So does anyone know the meaning of the word "Womersley"? Its origins?

The earliest record of my surname is in 1086, when it was written as Wilmeresledge. In 1501 it was Wommersley. In 1509 there was a reference to John Womersley at the Court of Henry V111. Hannah Womersley is recorded as having married Edward Bunn 1n 1789. Reference books show the name to have originated from the village of Womersley, between Doncaster and Pontefract.

It's only a name, irrespective of the spelling. The Womersleys are just the same as other families - no difference at all. We all have to be called something. A friend of mine is called Whomersley. Regards Nigel Womersley.

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Thanks for that.
Im interested in nomenclature and the use of words. You just added a little bit to my knowledge base there :)

Actually it was Allan Womersley, not David. We don't have a David. Allan is my Father's brother, and is around 70 now. He still paints. He has been retired many years now from Windmill School. Sorry, but he has never lived in a bungalow either. He has three sons not two. James, John and Peter.

Re Alan Womersley Alan married my cousin Ena Stevenson of Burncross Road Chapeltown, on the right hand side up the hill past the old swimming baths, and opporsite the senior citizens bungalows. I think one of thier sons live in the house that Ena lived in.I have not seen them for a number of years now.I think he will be around 80 now. I live in Cleethorpes.Sorry if I make mistakes but I am a new comer to this modern tech.derek Broughton

So does anyone know the meaning of the word "Womersley"? Its origins?

The website www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Womersley has an explanation of its Anglo Saxon origins. It does derive, as Nigel has said earlier, from the village which lies about 5 miles SE of Pontefract, the population size of which has not changed for many years.
Until recently Womersley Hall was owned by the Rosse family, the late Lady Rosse being Lord Snowden's mother.

If he was Lewis Womersley, he designed the Castle Market.

The best city officer this town ever had,The one we have now Scriven is determined to destroy all the brilliant work of Womesley and Sir Andrew Derbyshire.

Hi Daven, Susannah Womersley is my great, great grandmother - I have done quite a bit of research and have some good photos if you'd like to swap research - I'm in High Green

Re Alan Womersley Alan married my cousin Ena Stevenson of Burncross Road Chapeltown, on the right hand side up the hill past the old swimming baths, and opporsite the senior citizens bungalows. I think one of thier sons live in the house that Ena lived in.I have not seen them for a number of years now.I think he will be around 80 now. I live in Cleethorpes.Sorry if I make mistakes but I am a new comer to this modern tech.derek Broughton

Allan Womersley and my Dad were brothers. Sadly, Uncle Allan died in July 2009, after a long illness. He was 78. Aunt Ena and I share the same birthday, January 9.

Will the person who replied to my letter re Alan Womersley that he was his nephew,and has a birthday the same day as his aunt Ena would send me an e;mail I would be most gratful as I would like to get in touch with Ena. My email address is

Will the person who replied to my letter re Alan Womersley that he was his nephew,and has a birthday the same day as his aunt Ena would send me an e;mail I would be most gratful as I would like to get in touch with Ena. My email address is

Sent you a pm.

Hello there,
the following is what I had obtained when I attended the Historical Research Center.
The English surname Womersley is local in origin (Yorkshire) derived from the name of the place where their original bearer lived or where he once held land. The place name in question is Womersley, a parish near Pontefract, county of York. In 1086 it is found as "Wilmereslege", meaning "Wilmer's forest clering" and preserved its "i" for four hundred years (Wymbersley 1504). Since the early sixteenth century, the stressed vowel has been "o" as in Wommersley (recorded in 1501). In 1509, both these forms are found as the surname of John Wymbersley, Womersley, and Wymbersla in the official Letters and Papers of King Henry VIII.

As such a surname could arise from any place where men lived, there are many variants to be found. The original surname would have the same form as the place-name, but as this changed in spelling and pronunciation, so would the surname. As the place-name was attached to a particular place, it would in due time acquire a distinctive spelling, which would become fixed by official use and its repetition on maps. However, the surname could be carried to distant parts of the country where it would be strange and unknown and at the mercy of mispronunciation and phonetic spellings of parsons and parish clerks. Early instances of this name date to 1870, when three instances are recorded in the London Commercial Directory and a Hannah Womersley is recorded as having married Edward Bunn in 1789. The family coat of arms depicts a lion on a red background. The red denotes military fortitude and the lion is a symbol of majesty or royalty.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Spencer