View Full Version : I am a thief. I await your verdicts.


TwoFour
08-07-2006, 12:28
I nicked two towels from a hotel I stayed in recently and feel a bit ashamed.

Then I read this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1815855,00.html?gusrc=rss)

...and I don't feel so bad, now.

medusa
08-07-2006, 12:42
Haven't you ever heard the maxim that two wrongs don't make a right? Shame on you! ;)

sccsux
08-07-2006, 12:45
I nicked two towels from a hotel I stayed in recently and feel a bit ashamed.

Then I read this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1815855,00.html?gusrc=rss)

...and I don't feel so bad, now.

Surely (in you "profession") you should know a lot better.

See... You've proven youself to be a hypocrite.

sam1984
08-07-2006, 12:47
Two towels! Tsk tsk!

Eveyone knows you're meant to wrap up loads of 'free' toiletries inside the towels before 'borrowing' them

ANGELUS
08-07-2006, 13:00
I nicked two towels from a hotel I stayed in recently and feel a bit ashamed.

Then I read this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1815855,00.html?gusrc=rss)

...and I don't feel so bad, now.

I'd be the same as well.
Especially when we go to the US next year :hihi:

Jabberwocky
08-07-2006, 13:04
Stealing is a vile, vile practise, and although the things taken might appear insignificant, they DO have an impact on someone!
So, next time youre in the mood to steal something remember this!
Jabberwocky needs a laptop and is willing to pay for stolen goods...

jena76
08-07-2006, 13:15
I Hate Thiefs! :rant: :rant:

Bartfarst
08-07-2006, 13:19
Theft is theft.

Stealing hotel towels simply shows you to be no better than a shoplifter or mugger; your morals are equally maligned.

sccsux
08-07-2006, 13:33
your morals are equally maligned.

Obviously:D


Then again, this person is a social worker, so thier "confession" hardly surprises me:(.

Joanl
08-07-2006, 13:35
Having been a House-keeper in several hotels I can vouch for the fact that people do take the most surprising momento's of their stay. Remote controls, reading lamps, bibles and on one occasion, a telly,as well as the inevitable toiletries....
On the other side of the coin, they also LEAVE some wierd stuff as well. Leather whips, a huge bag of bananas once, magazines that they wouldn't dare take home. This wouldn't be so bad but they would actually feel they had to hide them when they checked out, favourite place being behind the bath panel.
Some are claimed back, some don't think that the postage they would have to send would be justifiable so they don't bother and the stuff would be offered to the staff to pick through after 6 months or so.
I had a nice leather jacket once and am still using 2 clocks that were left and never claimed.:)

Bartfarst
08-07-2006, 13:42
Obviously:D

Then again, this person is a social worker, so thier "confession" hardly surprises me:(.
OH MY GOD.

A social worker - no bloody wonder twofour always comes over as such a namby do-gooder.

ANGELUS
08-07-2006, 13:44
Good god fellow forummers..
Were talking about two towels... not someone's life savings :hihi:

Bleedin' hell!

Jabberwocky
08-07-2006, 13:45
Can we stop Bartfast from making any comments for the next hour please? Im trying to do the bloody housework here and I keep stopping to see what hes typed.

OH MY GOD.

A social worker - no bloody wonder twofour always comes over as such a namby do-gooder.

That had me cackling with laughter.

ANGELUS
08-07-2006, 13:48
I'm after a bathrobe from NY as well- or possibly Las Vegas :hihi:
Its a nice souvenir from the hotel we'll be staying in.

janny
08-07-2006, 13:58
I Hate Thiefs! :rant: :rant:

I've pinched off you before, Do you hate me? :(

I only pinched your Birth certificate and your makeup and your errrrrm...it would be a very long post if I carried on :)

Whatif wewin
08-07-2006, 14:05
It was some time ago (70s) but two lads from Scotland stayed at a Hotel in Liverpool and buggered of without paying.
One was a catholic from Glasgow other was a Protestant from Bigga (Glasgows big but Biggas still Bigga)
Anyway the catholic left behind his bible with his name and address inside.
The manageress of the small hotel just posted it back to him. Can you imagine that happening today?

sccsux
08-07-2006, 14:40
Good god fellow forummers..
Were talking about two towels... not someone's life savings :hihi:

Theft is theft.


Regardless of from where & whom.

Hopman
08-07-2006, 15:03
Surely if Wimbledon want to stop players pinching the towels they need to tell the umpires to announce:

"Game, set ,match and championship to Henman, 6-2, 6-4, 6-0. Will the loser not pinch the towels and will the spectators shout out if he puts the towel in his bag."


It'll never happen.

scribe
08-07-2006, 16:24
Ok so your a thief .

BoroughGal
08-07-2006, 16:26
Theft is theft.

Stealing hotel towels simply shows you to be no better than a shoplifter or mugger; your morals are equally maligned.

A "mugger" uses violence (or the threat of violence) against someone to steal property.

Not in the same league, doncha think?

melthebell
08-07-2006, 16:31
i believe the clash once got fined in court for stealing towels from a hotel

tom3t0
08-07-2006, 16:31
Good god fellow forummers..
Were talking about two towels... not someone's life savings :hihi:

Bleedin' hell!

two towels eh saying they cost £24
and this is ok?
can u give me £24 please to save me the bother of mugging you for £24
if i then procede to rob everyone in the country of £24
say 56million people i could earn myself a tidy
1.344 billion pounds (american billion ie a thousand millions)
nice1 what do you think i'd get... £24 court costs and 24 hours community service with a 24day pirson sentence suspended for 24 months and 24 months probation?

tom3t0
08-07-2006, 16:37
A "mugger" uses violence (or the threat of violence) against someone to steal property.

Not in the same league, doncha think?
not neccesarily in many cases the threat need not be made, if a person steals to reecooperate losses from another party who has stole from them i'd say this is alright and morally acceptable.
if a person steals otherwise its morally wrong and i'd think less of them
i'd say stealing from a person is worser a crime than stealing from a company but both are wrong
if a person beat on/ murdered/ tortured a thief i would think no less of them as a person as i can see this as being morally ok, although others wouldn't

BoroughGal
08-07-2006, 16:43
not neccesarily in many cases the threat need not be made, if a person steals to reecooperate losses from another party who has stole from them i'd say this is alright and morally acceptable.
if a person steals otherwise its morally wrong and i'd think less of them
i'd say stealing from a person is worser a crime than stealing from a company but both are wrong
if a person beat on/ murdered/ tortured a thief i would think no less of them as a person as i can see this as being morally ok, although others wouldn't


Yes, necessarily. A street robbery, as oppose to a a theft from person, involves violence or the threat of violence, and is sentenced heavier.

I've never said that theft is right, be it from a large organisation or otherwise. What I am saying is that stealing two towels from a hotel is not in the same league as smacking someone in the face for their wallet.

Now, disagree with me if you want - we all know that people will argue that black is white on here, but you've got strange morals if you really believe it (although we can see this from your desire to see the OP murdered for stealing two bath towels).

tom3t0
08-07-2006, 16:51
im not saying go and murder him what im saying is, if anyone did i wouldnt bat an eyelid as society would probably be better off as a whole, i really dont like thiefs and if you get to know any they tend to be the lowest of the low.
what im saying is, you could "mug" a person in the street without the threat of violence but by merely allowing the victim to interpret a threat of violence without one being made and then hand over their possesions.

BoroughGal
08-07-2006, 16:55
If the victim believes that there is a threat of violence, without a direct threat being made ie: "give me your money or else...", it is a street robbery (or a "mugging"). If someone comes up and asks you for money, it's begging. Two different offences.

By the way, this isn't my opinion to be argued with, it's the law as it stands.

And the world would be a worse place with vigilantes murdering people that they believe to be responsible for theft, than with thieves a-plenty.

ANGELUS
08-07-2006, 17:21
Oh I do seem to have ruffled a few feathers today :hihi:

Right then- change of question.
To all the people who would cast stones at me, riddle me this.

Have you ever stolen anything in life?
Have you ever taped anything from the radio or TV?

Be honest

Jabberwocky
08-07-2006, 17:23
I can honestly say that I have never stolen a single thing in my life.
Except for the hearts of the ladies.

I simply never had the guts to nick anything, even when I was a kid.

BoroughGal
08-07-2006, 17:24
Have you ever stolen anything in life?
Have you ever taped anything from the radio or TV?



I don't think I dare answer... I might get killeded to death.

ANGELUS
08-07-2006, 18:33
I see the nay sayers have decided not to post.
Case closed me thinks :hihi:

So yes- I admit I will be tucking a towel/bathrobe or two away in the suitcase when coming home from NY myself.. AND...

Least I can be honest with you all and say- yep, I take stuff from hotels!
:)

Joanl
08-07-2006, 18:59
To be honest, most hotels accept that a good few of their guests will have kleptomaniac tendancies and allow for the odd towel going walkabout.

Same as the toiletries, what hasn't been used during the stay will go with the guest on departure, cos in their eyes, it's theirs, they paid for it.

Where I worked didn't supply bath robes so can't comment on that. They probably thought it was just too much of a temptation for some people.:hihi:

mikomi
08-07-2006, 19:06
Oh I do seem to have ruffled a few feathers today :hihi:

Right then- change of question.
To all the people who would cast stones at me, riddle me this.

Have you ever stolen anything in life?
Have you ever taped anything from the radio or TV?

Be honest

No i have never stolen anything.

Yes i have taped a tv programme

So what is the point.

ANGELUS
08-07-2006, 19:08
No i have never stolen anything.

Yes i have taped a tv programme

So what is the point.

No offence- but you've taped something from TV, hence you've stolen a copyrighted programme.. hence...

You've joined my "thick as thieves club" along with me - well done :hihi:
* No offence intended of course :thumbsup: *

SpeedwayDan
08-07-2006, 19:17
it's right up there with stealing those little sachets of sugar, salt, sauces from cafes:hihi:

ANGELUS
08-07-2006, 19:18
it's right up there with stealing those little sachets of sugar, salt, sauces from cafes:hihi:

Exactly!

Apparently its still theft though according to some... maybe they should chop my hands off if I take one too many packets of sugar for my coffee in a cafe next time :hihi:

brooksy
08-07-2006, 19:21
Exactly!

Apparently its still theft though according to some... maybe they should chop my hands off if I take one too many packets of sugar for my coffee in a cafe next time :hihi:
Exactly, thats what this country needs severe punishment or even bring hanging back.:hihi: :hihi:

jena76
08-07-2006, 19:21
I've pinched off you before, Do you hate me? :(

I only pinched your Birth certificate and your makeup and your errrrrm...it would be a very long post if I carried on :)
yes i do hate u janny! i still have no birth certificate but dont worry i will send u the bill when i do !!!;) :)

jena76
08-07-2006, 19:23
Good god fellow forummers..
Were talking about two towels... not someone's life savings :hihi:

Bleedin' hell!
doesnt matter what it is its still theft and WRONG!!!:rant:

brooksy
08-07-2006, 19:29
doesnt matter what it is its still theft and WRONG!!!:rant:
Brilliant:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

mikomi
08-07-2006, 19:36
No offence- but you've taped something from TV, hence you've stolen a copyrighted programme.. hence...

You've joined my "thick as thieves club" along with me - well done :hihi:
* No offence intended of course :thumbsup: *

I fully expected that.But having paid my tv licence that gives me a right to view tv programmes and if i am unable to view a program that i have paid to view then taping it to view later in my home is hardly theft .But having stolen
something that you havent paid for is theft.

janny
08-07-2006, 21:03
yes i do hate u janny!

:o :cry: I can't speak...:o :cry: I love you!!

I only stole it cause I couldn't get in the night clubs when I was 15 and everyone else could :cry:

rubydazzler
08-07-2006, 21:25
Just don't leave any money or towels lying around if certain Forummers come to your house anytime .... they seem to have quite elastic consciences where other people's property is involved ... :cool:

Cyclone
08-07-2006, 22:50
Only the recording companies would have you believe that copyright violations are the same as theft.
Legally they are not. Theft is a criminal offence, copyright violations are civil offences.

Ally68
08-07-2006, 23:12
My other half stole a 'iccle ash tray from Virgin cinema once, We saw when we got home that underneath it said "stolen from virgin cinema". :hihi:

dynamicdebz
08-07-2006, 23:55
yep theft is theft but at the end of the day we would all be thieves if there was no law.

dynamicdebz
08-07-2006, 23:56
BTW if you find a penny in the street & keep it, technically that is theft.
Do not judge we are all thieves.
He without sin may cast the first stone & all that....

jena76
09-07-2006, 00:01
BTW if you find a penny in the street & keep it, technically that is theft.
Do not judge we are all thieves.
He without sin may cast the first stone & all that....
thats ridiculous! if u find a penny u havent stolen it at all :loopy:

Mr Prime
09-07-2006, 00:02
In this life you will meet alll kinds of men, some rob you with a six gun and some with a fountain pen...

Do them before they do you.

Eddie_shef
09-07-2006, 00:05
I once found a plasma TV sitting next to car on a street once.
It wasn't theft because I came across it just by chance.

dynamicdebz
09-07-2006, 00:18
Sorry jenna76, i ain;t preaching it is a law, if you find money in the street it should be handed in to the police, so technically it is theft. Fact not fiction so we are all technically thieves.
Got nothing to do with chance, if it ain't yours & you keep it, its theft, no matter how you glorify it.

jena76
09-07-2006, 00:20
well thats about right with this law nothing surprises me :rolleyes:

Don_Kiddick
09-07-2006, 08:13
I believe the 'Hotels' add a surcharge to all bills anyway to cover the cost of the odd theft.

Call it paid for :thumbsup:

Cyclone
09-07-2006, 09:56
Sorry jenna76, i ain;t preaching it is a law, if you find money in the street it should be handed in to the police, so technically it is theft. Fact not fiction so we are all technically thieves.
Got nothing to do with chance, if it ain't yours & you keep it, its theft, no matter how you glorify it.

I've heard this before, but have yet to see the statute for it. Can you link to the relevant act?

It's certainly an interesting one. If I leave my car in the street I fully expect to find it there when I go back.
And if I lock my bike up in the street no one would argue that it wasn't theft if someone removed it...

I suppose money in the street is lost property and you should hand it in to the police who wait for a reasonable length of time for someone to claim it and return it to you if they do not.

melthebell
09-07-2006, 09:58
My other half stole a 'iccle ash tray from Virgin cinema once, We saw when we got home that underneath it said "stolen from virgin cinema". :hihi:
really?
thats clever

wonder how the ashtray knew it had been stolen

artisan
09-07-2006, 10:31
I've heard this before, but have yet to see the statute for it. Can you link to the relevant act?

It's certainly an interesting one. If I leave my car in the street I fully expect to find it there when I go back.
And if I lock my bike up in the street no one would argue that it wasn't theft if someone removed it...

I suppose money in the street is lost property and you should hand it in to the police who wait for a reasonable length of time for someone to claim it and return it to you if they do not.

Cash does not belong to anyone. If you drop money in the street tough luck.
How can anyone claim it belongs to them?
It says on the note 'I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of...'

No where does it refer to the owner.
You cant own money, it is abstract. It is merely a reflection of your wealth.
You can own property and belongings, but a banknote is just a piece of paper.
It is meaningless, it relies on the trust we have in each other. When you offer or accept a banknote, all you are doing is trusting the bank that issued it.
Look at what happened in Cambodia after the Americans destroyed its government. Banknotes were blowing in the streets like confetti

Cyclone
09-07-2006, 10:35
So if I come over and empty your wallet you won't say that i've stolen from you?

Don_Kiddick
09-07-2006, 10:51
But if you destroy cash - like burning notes or melting coinage, you can get done as it 'belongs' ultimately to HM treasury.

artisan
09-07-2006, 10:56
So if I come over and empty your wallet you won't say that i've stolen from you?
Yes I would say that. But if I dropped on the floor and you picked it up, how can I prove its mine.
But if you tried to take it of me that would be stealing, and when you got out of hospital you would probably go to prison. :D

Jabberwocky
09-07-2006, 11:02
On the cutlery at the Fletchers bakery canteen, it said "Stolen From Fletchers" in the hope that it would put people off of stealing it.
The staff loved to nick it and for a while in the 70s a Stolen from Fletchers item in the kitchen was almost as good as having a knife with "Sheffield Steel" on it.

dynamicdebz
09-07-2006, 11:22
The Theft Act 1968:
A person is guilty of theft if they dishonestly appropriate property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.

You then have to check a law dictionary to understand what each word means, while they may mean one thing to a layman in law they can mean something quite different.

I studied law for a couple of years & was taught finding money in the street & keeping it is theft, however if it is less than 50p it is unlikely that the owner would be looking for it & it would be impossible to find the owner. But you are supposed to hand it to the police & if no-one claims it with in a specified time (can't remember how long) only then is it legally yours. Obviously no-one is gonna hand in a penny but if you keep it, it is technically theft.
None of us would hand 9p in to the police if we found it but you can be sure if got caught stealing a 9p can of beans from Netto you would be arrested.

Don_Kiddick
09-07-2006, 11:28
Anyone caught IN Netto needs arresting :hihi:

BoroughGal
09-07-2006, 12:50
I've heard this before, but have yet to see the statute for it. Can you link to the relevant act?

It's certainly an interesting one. If I leave my car in the street I fully expect to find it there when I go back.
And if I lock my bike up in the street no one would argue that it wasn't theft if someone removed it...

I suppose money in the street is lost property and you should hand it in to the police who wait for a reasonable length of time for someone to claim it and return it to you if they do not.

It's "Theft by Finding" and comes under the normal Theft Act 1968. (http://www.lawteacher.net/Criminal/Property%20Offences/TA%201968.pdf) No one's going to be able to prove the 1p thing, but she is right in saying technically it's theft.

42fta
09-07-2006, 17:27
I was going to quote Marx and say "all property is theft".but then I googled and apparently it is attributed to Proudhon who actually believed "property is freedom" (now that I can relate to) :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_is_theft

ANGELUS
09-07-2006, 18:12
Just don't leave any money or towels lying around if certain Forummers come to your house anytime .... they seem to have quite elastic consciences where other people's property is involved ... :cool:

Can I just say that I would not EVER go robbing money or towels from people's houses- because thats just plain wrong.

However- I do have an none existent conscience to pilfering from hotel chains :)

Cyclone
09-07-2006, 18:29
Yes I would say that. But if I dropped on the floor and you picked it up, how can I prove its mine.
But if you tried to take it of me that would be stealing, and when you got out of hospital you would probably go to prison. :D

you can't have it both ways. You said that no one owns money, in which case it's impossible to steal it... so which is it, are the notes in your wallet yours, or are they free game?

ANGELUS
09-07-2006, 18:37
I think people on here need to be more honest with others.
There are too many 'perfect people' on here it seems :hihi:

fr8neck
09-07-2006, 22:48
I used to steal allsorts when I was little, but now it would just be demeaning.
Two towels,? like getting caught stealing a Mars Bar from a corner shop. How old are you?
Bring me a plan to knock off Fort Knox or Gordon Brown, now that's worth my precious time:thumbsup:

sccsux
10-07-2006, 09:16
Bring me a plan to knock off Fort Knox or Gordon Brown, now that's worth my precious time:thumbsup:

Surely a plan to rid the world of Prescott would be better:D?

TwoFour
10-07-2006, 11:59
Obviously:D


Then again, this person is a social worker, so thier "confession" hardly surprises me:(.


er...no I'm not

TwoFour
10-07-2006, 12:01
A social worker - no bloody wonder twofour always comes over as such a namby do-gooder.

That had me cackling with laughter.

Oi!

Less of the namby

Jabberwocky
10-07-2006, 12:02
Oi!

Less of the namby
Well Im namby too!

Erm...whatever namby means...

TwoFour
10-07-2006, 12:08
Well Im namby too!

Erm...whatever namby means...

No idea. Dont know what pamby means either for that matter.

TwoFour
10-07-2006, 12:14
Blimey..never expected this thread to take off like it has.

I don't regard nicking from a hotel as morally as bad as from an individual, particularly as the chain is bleedin' massive and they charged me £5 for a beer and nearly a tenner for a 3 minute phone call (to UK admittedly)

I agree that all stealing is wrong though and I do feel guilty.

The last time this happened was at Bolton bus station shop where there was a really short sighted man serving and it was so easy and everyone else was doing it..I put my Whizzer and Chips INSIDE the Beezer and only paid for the Beezer...oh god the shame....I still feel it today.

:blush:

Jabberwocky
10-07-2006, 12:15
Well even a paragon of virtue such as myself would steal a Whizzer and Chips.
Its just too tempting.

psyn
10-07-2006, 12:59
theft is theft yes, thats why their spelt the same way.
however, stealing from a person,a home, a shop , a hotel, a car are not the same things just the same crime.
and taking two towels from a ohh lets say hilton is less worthy of scorn (in my eyes) than two from a b and b in cleethorpes

plus hotel towels feel better cos they are free,(after liberation that is)]

also I thought that if you find some thing (like adverse possesion) you can claim ownership of it , only the original 'owner' has more 'right' to it , and so on if some else finds it after yourself. you more than them and less than the previous.

sccsux
10-07-2006, 13:16
er...no I'm not

I do apologise.

EX (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=117463&page=2#28) (still registered) Social Worker:(.

TwoFour
10-07-2006, 16:26
I do apologise.

EX (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=117463&page=2#28) (still registered) Social Worker:(.

Apology accepted.

artisan
10-07-2006, 16:39
you can't have it both ways. You said that no one owns money, in which case it's impossible to steal it... so which is it, are the notes in your wallet yours, or are they free game?
No, what I said is that money represents your wealth. If you drop it on the floor, for example, then you have lost it. You cant accuse some one picking it up of being a thief as he has not stolen it, it belongs to the bearer, as it says.
However if you physically steal it from me that is a totally different matter.
You have stolen my property, to whatever the value of the money is.
As I said, it is so abstract that it is difficult to quantify.

sccsux
10-07-2006, 16:59
Apology accepted.

Still should know better:P.

Cyclone
10-07-2006, 19:31
No, what I said is that money represents your wealth. If you drop it on the floor, for example, then you have lost it. You cant accuse some one picking it up of being a thief as he has not stolen it, it belongs to the bearer, as it says.
However if you physically steal it from me that is a totally different matter.
You have stolen my property, to whatever the value of the money is.
As I said, it is so abstract that it is difficult to quantify.

I think you're trying to draw a distinction that doesn't exist.

If you drop a note and I swoop and pick it up, then it's not theft.

But if you drop your phone and I do the same then it is...

Nah, you won't convince me of that. And I doubt you'd get it past a jury either.

wendygs
10-07-2006, 19:57
I nicked two towels from a hotel I stayed in recently and feel a bit ashamed.

Then I read this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1815855,00.html?gusrc=rss)

...and I don't feel so bad, now.

Just be grateful you didnt do that at the Savoy. People I once knew stayed there on their wedding night. Umpteen years later they stayed there again for reasons of sentimentaility on one of these special wedding anniversaries to be accosted by one of the staff who reminded them of the hangers they nicked. I gather beetroots were a good colour match.

I was going to embellish this with the dressing gowns they nicked but that bit may be apocryphal.

dynamicdebz
10-07-2006, 19:58
You say about the towels that from a big hotel chain its kinda ok.
Lets say they're worth about a fiver each (or whatever) then surely the same principle can be used if you steal 2 towels from Marks & Spencers (or any other chain store) or even steal a fiver out of the till. You just wouldn't do it. The reason we will steal from hotels is because there's no-one watching us.
Which in turn explains my original comment that if there was no law we would all be terribly big thieves.
I must add I haven't stolen from any hotel but am as guilty as the next person, executive perks & finding lost money (small amounts).

Daven
10-07-2006, 21:42
Our son, 12 at the time, returned home from a school trip abroad with 2 hotel towels in his suitcase . I made him pay for the postage to send them back to the hotel in Italy along with a letter of apology.

dynamicdebz
10-07-2006, 22:07
I would do the same Daven after all we all know what we got up to as kids doesn't mean we want our kids to do the same.
Have you ever stolen, bare in mind what has been said on here?
Its no good making out holier than thou, we've all got skeletons.

biggsy
10-07-2006, 22:11
Theft is theft.

Stealing hotel towels simply shows you to be no better than a shoplifter or mugger; your morals are equally maligned.

i think you're totally wrong there bartfarst, mugging is so much worse than shoplifting as it's usually comitted with violence- a big nono.

john.

ANGELUS
11-07-2006, 00:19
For anyone thats interested-
Apparently when we go to the US next year, the Hilton Hotels have some smashing quality towels if anyone wants any :hihi:

sccsux
11-07-2006, 09:15
For anyone thats interested-
Apparently when we go to the US next year, the Hilton Hotels have some smashing quality towels if anyone wants any :hihi:

Maybe the mods should report you (and your IP address) to the authorities (stealing to order is really bad):D.

ANGELUS
11-07-2006, 09:17
Maybe the mods should report you (and your IP address) to the authorities (stealing to order is really bad):D.

They can if they wish to.. lets see if they do then :hihi:

I stand accused, or will stand accused of stealing two maybe more Hilton towels from NY next year.. how do I plead?

GUILTY for sure :thumbsup:

Cyclone
11-07-2006, 09:26
And what will you do when presented with your checkout bill and finding $20 for two towels on it?

ANGELUS
11-07-2006, 09:28
And what will you do when presented with your checkout bill and finding $20 for two towels on it?

But then I may be taking the towels on the last day we are there- how would they know they have vanished?

Unless, you know something that I dont- and the hotels have special towel police to go round checking first before I leave :hihi:

So, I dont think I will be finding the charge on there... I would pay it though naturally if it was there though :thumbsup:

Cyclone
11-07-2006, 09:34
They have your credit card details, I've had a charge made after I used the bar the night before checking out and it hadn't been registered in time.
I noticed in the american hotels in florida that they had a price list for the items in the room, upto and including the ironing board.

kieran
11-07-2006, 09:54
thats ridiculous! if u find a penny u havent stolen it at all :loopy:
afraid you are wrong there if you find anyting and keep it with no intension of finding it's owner then it's classed as theft

Blade1983
11-07-2006, 10:02
I'm pretty sure the hotels add the cost of the towels, toiletries etc, to your bill - so if you don't take them, you're really not getting what you paid for!!!

Joanl
11-07-2006, 10:32
But then I may be taking the towels on the last day we are there- how would they know they have vanished?

Because the towels would have been put in the room when it was serviced, the house-keeper would have checked that the room had BEEN serviced,then when you checked out the numbers of dirty linen should tie up with the departures.
When a chamber-maid is clearing a room, they DO notice these things. Easy to work out really, room number = guests registration details.:thumbsup:

Joanl
11-07-2006, 10:34
I'm pretty sure the hotels add the cost of the towels, toiletries etc, to your bill - so if you don't take them, you're really not getting what you paid for!!!

So, YOUR'E the one that tried to take the telly then:hihi:

Cyclone
11-07-2006, 10:43
I'm pretty sure the hotels add the cost of the towels, toiletries etc, to your bill - so if you don't take them, you're really not getting what you paid for!!!

what would make you think this?

Joanl
11-07-2006, 10:52
Unless, you know something that I dont- and the hotels have special towel police to go round checking first before I leave :hihi:

:

The chamberstaff would have whipped round your room before you had even got down to reception more than likely.....they do like to see if you have left anything. Your property as well as a tip.:) If you have, then they can just pick up the phone in the room, ring down to reception and ask them to tell you when you hand in your key. :thumbsup:

nick2
11-07-2006, 10:54
I'm pretty sure the hotels add the cost of the towels, toiletries etc, to your bill - so if you don't take them, you're really not getting what you paid for!!!

Why not take the curtains, the bed and the TV too then ?

Cyclone
11-07-2006, 11:17
The chamberstaff would have whipped round your room before you had even got down to reception more than likely.....they do like to see if you have left anything. Your property as well as a tip.:) If you have, then they can just pick up the phone in the room, ring down to reception and ask them to tell you when you hand in your key. :thumbsup:

They'd have to be bloody quick then, what with 20 people checking out 5 mins before the last checkout time, and it only taking a few seconds to walk to reception to actually checkout... And the staff having to be servicing all the rooms as normal...

Blade1983
11-07-2006, 11:36
what would make you think this?

the fact i paid £110 per night for a scabby hotel in Brighton!!

or perhaps i was just bringing a little humour to the thread!

Blade1983
11-07-2006, 11:37
Why not take the curtains, the bed and the TV too then ?

Because I only have a VW Golf! :hihi:

TwoFour
11-07-2006, 12:21
Why not take the curtains, the bed and the TV too then ?

Because you can't get them into your bag...mind you, you could lower them out of the window on a sturdy rope...hmmmm

nick2
11-07-2006, 12:27
They tend to fasten the paintings to the wall too, which is rather inconvenient.

I have never been tempted to nick anything out of a UK hotel bedroom, but the rooms in Vegas are well stripable..

Joanl
11-07-2006, 12:33
They'd have to be bloody quick then, what with 20 people checking out 5 mins before the last checkout time, and it only taking a few seconds to walk to reception to actually checkout... And the staff having to be servicing all the rooms as normal...

Fortunately ALL rooms don't check out all together,despite having a set check-out time, nor does 1 person be responsible for ALL the rooms. Usually they would have their own section of maybe ten rooms. There would be most likely be a bit of a queue at reception which wouldn't neccessarily be on the same floor. You might have had to wait for the lift as well depending on the hotel which you were staying at.(Where I've worked anyway. the largest being 1026 rooms the smallest being 74.......) and as I said before, someone waiting to see if they have a tip can be extremely quick.:hihi:
You might get away with it, but is the embarrassment of not doing so worth it.

TwoFour
11-07-2006, 12:37
Fortunately ALL rooms don't check out all together,despite having a set check-out time, nor does 1 person be responsible for ALL the rooms. Usually they would have their own section of maybe ten rooms. There would be most likely be a bit of a queue at reception which wouldn't neccessarily be on the same floor. You might have had to wait for the lift as well depending on the hotel which you were staying at.(Where I've worked anyway. the largest being 1026 rooms the smallest being 74.......) and as I said before, someone waiting to see if they have a tip can be extremely quick.:hihi:
You might get away with it, but is the embarrassment of not doing so worth it.

so the thing to do is to nip into rooms with doors open (ie people who are probably checking out as well) and nick their towels.:hihi:

Joanl
11-07-2006, 13:07
so the thing to do is to nip into rooms with doors open (ie people who are probably checking out as well) and nick their towels.:hihi:

:hihi: Yes, exactly:thumbsup: Or, a trolly on the corridor with clean unused ones on? Don't really want someone else's muck do you.:)

Cyclone
11-07-2006, 13:10
or grab a few off the trolley that is left outside the room currently being cleaned.

to be honest though, hotel towels loose all the fluffiness once you've washed them, they must have a special trick to make them fluff at the hotel.

Doh - someone said it before me.

SL31
11-07-2006, 13:26
Who doesnt nick stuff from hotels....and what about the toiletres, is taking them stealing too?

I once very cheekily walked out of a shop with hat on my head that was for sale in the shop,...no-one stopped me too, woohoo i got a free hat!:D :thumbsup:

Joanl
11-07-2006, 13:32
There's always the one where you phone Housekeeping/Reception and say that the chamber maid hasn't LEFT you any towels. :thumbsup:

Then you get brought extra supplies and one lot won't be missed as much. If this is done at a different time of day then no one will be the wiser.

Unless you ARE planning on nicking though, don't use this, just ask for extra. They will always give you them and once again, if they have done their job right, they will KNOW that they DID leave them for you.:hihi:

nick2
11-07-2006, 13:39
Why would you want to steal a towel that has probably had a hundred strangers bums and dangly bits on it - Bleeuugh

Cyclone
11-07-2006, 13:44
Who doesnt nick stuff from hotels....and what about the toiletres, is taking them stealing too?

I once very cheekily walked out of a shop with hat on my head that was for sale in the shop,...no-one stopped me to woohoo i got a free hat!:D :thumbsup:

Of course not.
The toiletries (if it's the small bottles) are there for you to use as you see fit.

Towels aren't consumables though, unlike shampoo, so they expect to find them still there after you've had a shower.

Joanl
11-07-2006, 13:58
the fact i paid £110 per night for a scabby hotel in Brighton!!

or perhaps i was just bringing a little humour to the thread!

Oooh expensive:suspect: perhaps they had a lot of stuff going missing and needed to recoup their losses.:hihi:

TwoFour
11-07-2006, 17:09
Why would you want to steal a towel that has probably had a hundred strangers bums and dangly bits on it - Bleeuugh

...because it's there

...but I do feel a bit queasy now.. :gag: .boil wash here we come...

EdnaKrabappe
11-07-2006, 21:59
Why would you want to steal a towel that has probably had a hundred strangers bums and dangly bits on it - Bleeuugh

I agree! My mum used to own a small hotel and she said it you can guarantee that it was always the sanctimonious la de das who boasted at length that they'd saved £2.50 as they'd complained about the coffee in the local cafe they'd had being too weak, that they were disgusted by the length of wait on the little train so had got a free ride and basically had nothing better to do with their time but set out to make life hell for others, who you'd find had stolen things. I just find these people very sad individuals.
It's like people who take ALL the teas and coffees just because they can - FFS do you not have tea and coffee at your house? Is it something so new that you've never experienced it before?

It's not funny, it's people's livelihoods and it costs us all more at larger hotel chains because of it and the small people like my mum could write off the profit that she'd make from someone staying if someone stole the towels. It also can come out of the chambermaids wages, I've known that at larger hotels(not my mums)

On the odd occasions that I've taken a towel home from the gym absent mindedly, I've taken them back the next time. Who wants towels that say property of Hilton Hotel on them? Very nouveaux riche.

English Glory
11-07-2006, 23:38
Don't know what the workers are complaining about... towels and the like are factored into hotels turnover. Forced tips for crap service by wenches isn't but still has to be factored into the customers itineray.

Though it's not true that it's nicking towels that's keeping the wages down, which requires tips. It's the owners of the establishments taking hard labour for granted, as they should in an open economy. Need to have pitiful jobs like cleaning to keep everyone striving forward for the good of the country.

Draggletail
11-07-2006, 23:44
Why would you want to steal a towel that has probably had a hundred strangers bums and dangly bits on it - Bleeuugh
Fetish? :suspect: :D

Joanl
12-07-2006, 09:08
Going back to these two towels then, lets look at it from another point of view.
You yourself have taken two lovely fluffy pink towels with you.
On packing ready for departure, you realise that they are no longer there.:o

What do you do?....:suspect:
Automatically assume that they have been stolen from your room?
Pick up the phone and complain to reception?
Fill in a lost property form giving a value of 10 times more than they're worth?

Whatever you do, you would still be rather miffed to think that someone had nicked your property.:thumbsup:

dibsy
12-07-2006, 09:35
Fetish? :suspect: :D

A disgusting one at that :gag:

I pinch the shampoos and stuff when we stay in hotels......I'm gonna Amsterdam at the week-end so I'm sure I'll maybe come back with something from the hotel ..........and before there's any wise cracks and titters, my b/f will be with me :rolleyes: :hihi:

Blade1983
12-07-2006, 09:56
A disgusting one at that :gag:

I pinch the shampoos and stuff when we stay in hotels......I'm gonna Amsterdam at the week-end so I'm sure I'll maybe come back with something from the hotel ..........and before there's any wise cracks and titters, my b/f will be with me :rolleyes: :hihi:

I'm sure you will come back with something if you're not carefull :hihi: