driving home today up herries road when a woman pulled out of a side road causing me to brake really harshly and almost run into the back of her.To make it even worse she had a mobile phone in one hand and steering wheel in the other.then i arrive home,turn on my tv and whats on?? only that sheilas wheels advert for cheeper car insurance for "safer" women drivers.its a joke-same with old people.ggggrrrrrr!!:rant:

Yeah bloody woman drivers ought to be shot, the lot of em, if I had my way I

Old? Hang on a sec! I`m bloody old and I dont drive like a nutter! I died in 2 world wars for the likes of you!
Why you cheeky young bugger, I`ve a good mind to get my zimmer frame and get into my car and-
No wait, they took my licence away because I went the wrong way up the M1 that time...
I can remember when this was all fields you know.
Chips? they dont make chips like they used to, they dont taste the same nowadays...
and as for the war..

I agree with your comments re the advert... And like I said in the other mobile phone thread, the woman is clearly an idiot, ever heard of hands-free? Or even a bluetooth headset? :loopy:

driving home today up herries road when a woman pulled out of a side road causing me to brake really harshly and almost run into the back of her.To make it even worse she had a mobile phone in one hand and steering wheel in the other.then i arrive home,turn on my tv and whats on?? only that sheilas wheels advert for cheeper car insurance for "safer" women drivers.its a joke-same with old people.ggggrrrrrr!!:rant:

Whereas I met head on with a young guy coming the wrong way down the one way section of Alma street.
Men drivers, good god, they should all be shot.

What? No not me, just the rest of them, the bad ones...

I have sheila's wheels on my mobile phone. I absolutely hate it but my gorgeous niece loves it to bits and everytime i'm with her she asks for it to be played so she can dance to it :) I only got it for her
I must say though it does get annoying when you've listened to it 4 or 5 times!!
I must be mad! x

The big blonde though. The lead singer...
I`d let her have me.
Not that I`m a perv or anything...

The big blonde though. The lead singer...
I`d let her have me.
Not that I`m a perv or anything...

Nah mate you're not a perv, just desperate :P

Nah mate you're not a perv, just desperate :P
Damn bloody right I am! :hihi:

I'm not even going to mention big fat greasy men driving white vans who don't know other road users exist....

I'm not even going to mention big fat greasy men driving white vans who don't know other road users exist....
My van was yellow!

oops...

as anybody noticed on the advert when they are all sat in the car singing it is actualy going backwards

Glynn
P.S.
women drivers typical

driving home today up herries road when a woman pulled out of a side road causing me to brake really harshly and almost run into the back of her.To make it even worse she had a mobile phone in one hand and steering wheel in the other.then i arrive home,turn on my tv and whats on?? only that sheilas wheels advert for cheeper car insurance for "safer" women drivers.its a joke-same with old people.ggggrrrrrr!!:rant:

Not to mention that on the advert of the three of them, one has her hands on the steering wheel once; they are doing their make up, or nails or something; when reversing at Mach 4 all they do is sing, not one of them turning to look behind or even just possibly use ANY of the mirrors available; when going forward at a similar speed they recline in the front seats (in a car which probably has two front seats, thus explaining the permagrin on the middle one's face possibly ;) ), taking no notice of anything else which may be on the road.

God(TM), I never realised how accurate adverts could be :hihi:

(note to self: sexist rant for year over, so get back to normal now, oh, and watch out for heavy objects)

I agree 100%

I drive for a living and encounter many dozy women and old people on the roads often- they nearly all seem to drive like they've just passed their bloody test!

You DO realise that this thread is going to be invaded with angry females soon?

You DO realise that this thread is going to be invaded with angry females soon?

LOL. Yes, but it's a democracy- can't the many(not all) women 'drivers' handle the truth?

LOL. Yes, but it's a democracy- can't the many(not all) women 'drivers' handle the truth?
Democracys are a male thing.
Women are dictators. As we`ll shortly find out.
Correction: YOULL shortly find out cos I`m legging it while the goings good:hihi:

Democracys are a male thing.
Women are dictators. As we`ll shortly find out.
Correction: YOULL shortly find out cos I`m legging it while the goings good:hihi:

I'm with you on that one ....... LEGGIT :hihi:

I'm with you on that one ....... LEGGIT :hihi:

Errrrrm, nah... I think I'll stand and defend my post based upon driving experience(which also includes sales reps and skip lorry ar*****es)...for better or for worse! :rolleyes:

Errrrrm, nah... I think I'll stand and defend my post based upon driving experience(which also includes sales reps and skip lorry ar*****es)...for better or for worse! :rolleyes:

I'll be back ....... when I've got my flak jacket and stuff ..... :hihi:

You don't need to run away jabberwocky, we all like YOU ... :)

SOME people on the other hand would be wise to run away right now ... :hihi:

I'm not even going to mention big fat greasy men driving white vans who don't know other road users exist....
Are you telling me that Ronaldo is driving a van now? Hes supposed to be in Germany! :D

You don't need to run away jabberwocky, we all like YOU ... :)

SOME people on the other hand would be wise to run away right now ... :hihi:

I couldn't care less about being disliked and outside of the clique - so you all know each other, good for you.

I couldn't care less about being disliked and outside of the clique - so you all know each other, good for you.

Don't bite! They trap! They trap! :hihi:

Clique?
Im relatively new so the only clique I see is when they "Clique" their tongues when they see the crap i put.

See that? that was a play on words or "Pune" that was.

Im not getting into the 'whos the better drivers ... male or female' debate :roll: , its pointless, we all know women are SOOOOO much better ;) . But i was watching this ad and thought how sexest it was, ... an insurance for females only? if a insurance company advertised that they would only insure men, the feminists would be up in arms :rant: (and the said insurance company would be bankrupt :hihi: )
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I couldn't care less about being disliked and outside of the clique - so you all know each other, good for you.

This is something that fascinates me. They all meet up and know each other, then call each other by silly nom-de- plumes.
Surely once their identity is known to all and sundry they should revert to their proper names.

This is something that fascinates me. They all meet up and know each other, then call each other by silly nom-de- plumes.
Surely once their identity is known to all and sundry they should revert to their proper names.
I thought all the regs on here met up for nights out and stuff? I was beginning to feel left out.

I thought all the regs on here met up for nights out and stuff? I was beginning to feel left out.
No, I for one, live too far away in (whisper it) West Yorkshire, no where near Leeds I hasten to add! :D

No, I for one, live too far away in (whisper it) West Yorkshire, no where near Leeds I hasten to add! :D
Leicestershire here, well out of harms way.
Trouble is I darent go back to Sheffield now, I`ll be beaten to a pulp in seconds.

I couldn't care less about being disliked and outside of the clique - so you all know each other, good for you.

I don't know jabberwocky except on here, he's just so funny ... and you weren't even the OP ... so no need to be so snappy ... :rolleyes:

And FYI artisan, people who meet don't call each other by "silly non-de-plumes" if the person concerned doesn't want to be called by their screenname. My nickname's been ruby for about 5 years and isn't anything to do with Sheffield Forum anyway. So there!!:rolleyes:

I don't know jabberwocky except on here, he's just so funny ... and you weren't even the OP ... so no need to be so snappy ... :rolleyes:

And FYI artisan, people who meet don't call each other by "silly non-de-plumes" if the person concerned doesn't want to be called by their screenname. My nickname's been ruby for about 5 years and isn't anything to do with Sheffield Forum anyway. So there!!:rolleyes:

I shall consider myself severely reprimanded :D
(mental note- mind my own business) :hihi:

I shall consider myself severely reprimanded :D
(mental note- mind my own business) :hihi:

There's a good boy innit .... (said in a welsh accent :D )

While riding round a roundabout on a cycle I was knocked down by a car just as I was passing the exit for a motorway slip road.

The driver said they thought I was going to go up the slip road , on a push bike !!!
You guessed it, it was a women driver.

:loopy:

While riding round a roundabout on a cycle I was knocked down by a car just as I was passing the exit for a motorway slip road.

The driver said they thought I was going to go up the slip road , on a push bike !!!
You guessed it, it was a women driver.

:loopy:
I gave up riding a bike on main roads years ago for simalar reasons (40 stitches in knee). She didnt think you were turning off, the truth is she didnt see you. The main roads are too busy for bikes these days. Its far more pleasant on dedicated cycle routes.

I'd have seen you all right but I'd have knocked you both off your bikes anyway ...just because I could!

... pedal cyclists are an abomination upon the face of the earth :D

I gave up riding a bike on main roads years ago for simalar reasons (40 stitches in knee). She didnt think you were turning off, the truth is she didnt see you. The main roads are too busy for bikes these days. Its far more pleasant on dedicated cycle routes.

That’s what the police said …………………..but she had a excuse.

i got a lift home by a neighbour in her blokes white van (they do a building business) she was using the mobile in her hand while driving and didnt wear a seatbelt

tch

There's a good boy innit .... (said in a welsh accent :D )

<fx: sticks head round door>

Oh Lord(TM), don't bring the accent thing up again, someone might mention Grennel ........;)

<fx: already has coat, closes door quickly, and runs for the push bike ........ :D >

I agree with your comments re the advert... And like I said in the other mobile phone thread, the woman is clearly an idiot, ever heard of hands-free? Or even a bluetooth headset? :loopy:

Makes little difference whether it's hands free or not. Just the act of speaking on the telephone, hands free or handset, makes you drive as badly as if you were over the limit, if not worse.

IMO it should be 3 points on the licence, whether you have a hands free set or not, with automatic, permanent, disqualification on the second offence.

Makes little difference whether it's hands free or not. Just the act of speaking on the telephone, hands free or handset, makes you drive as badly as if you were over the limit, if not worse.

IMO it should be 3 points on the licence, whether you have a hands free set or not, with automatic, permanent, disqualification on the second offence.
So you wouldn't advocate talking to your passengers, or having the radio on either then?

And as for
they nearly all seem to drive like they've just passed their bloody test!
When my pupils are 'test-ready', they probably drive better than you do anyway.

Makes little difference whether it's hands free or not. Just the act of speaking on the telephone, hands free or handset, makes you drive as badly as if you were over the limit, if not worse.

IMO it should be 3 points on the licence, whether you have a hands free set or not, with automatic, permanent, disqualification on the second offence.

and carrying a passenger who isn't wearing a gag, that should be an automatic ban?

Think about what your suggesting. More than one person can ride in a car, and you can talk to them as much as you like. How is hands free different to that?

Sheilas Wheels advert -

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but in the original advert where the three girlies are driving in the car, in the scene at the end of the advert, the camera shot is from above them. They are all looking straight up, no one has their hands on the steering wheel, and amazingly enough, the car is actually going backwards.

And they say women make safer drivers......

So you wouldn't advocate talking to your passengers, or having the radio on either then?

Talking to passengers is quite different, as not only are they aware of the road conditions and the fact that you are driving,, you don't use large portions of your brain imagining them as you do when you speak to someone on the telephone. Having the radio on is obviously not at all analagous...

And this isn't my fanciful thinking, it's the result of bona fide research at the Transport Research Laboratory - using a phone in the car, hands-free or handset is more dangerous than being at the legal limit of alcohol intoxication.

There's more research to be done, but the problem revolves around the sheer amount of mental resources required to sustain a telephone conversation.


Twenty healthy experienced drivers were tested in a balanced order on two separate occasions. The drivers were aged 21 to 45 years (mean = 32, SD = 7.8) and were split evenly by gender. Before starting the test drive, participants consumed a drink, which either contained alcohol or a similar looking and tasting placebo drink. The quantity of alcohol was determined from the participant's age and body mass using the adjusted Widmark Formula (the UK legal alcohol limit 80mg / 100ml). The test drive had four conditions: (1) motorway with moderate traffic, (2) car following, (3) curving road, and (4) dual carriageway with traffic lights. During each condition the drivers answered a standard set of questions and conversed with the experimenter over a mobile phone. The independent variables in this repeated measures study were normal driving, alcohol impaired driving, and driving while talking on hands-free or hand-held phone. Results showed a clear trend for significantly poorer driving performance (speed control and response time) when using a hand-held phone in comparison to the other conditions. The best performance was for normal driving without phone conversations. Hands-free was better than hand-held. Driving performance under the influence of alcohol was significantly worse than normal driving, yet better than driving while using a phone. Drivers also reported that it was easier to drive drunk than to drive while using a phone. It is concluded that driving behaviour is impaired more during a phone conversation than by having a blood alcohol level at the UK legal limit (80mg / 100ml). (A)

If you can explain why holding a phone conversation requiers more brain power than a conversation with someone sat behind you (ie, neither of them can be seen), then i'll accept that you're right.

Someone sat behind you is in effect exactly the same (and could be replaced by) a speaker and a microphone and you wouldn't know...

Im not getting into the 'whos the better drivers ... male or female' debate :roll: , its pointless, we all know men are better at every thing;) . But i was watching this ad and thought how sexest it was, ... an insurance for females only? if a insurance company advertised that they would only insure men, the feminists would be up in arms :rant:

i had the same argument a few days ago.

Maybe I should have posted THIS here. (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=124785)

If you can explain why holding a phone conversation requiers more brain power than a conversation with someone sat behind you (ie, neither of them can be seen), then i'll accept that you're right.
I can't but these people have tried to:

http://www.trl.co.uk/store/report_detail.asp?srid=2698
http://www.unews.utah.edu/p/?r=062206-1
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/04/060405234657.htm
http://www.news.uiuc.edu/news/04/1112cellphones.html

and you can find more here - http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=psychology+telephones+hands+free&btnG=Search&meta=


Someone sat behind you is in effect exactly the same (and could be replaced by) a speaker and a microphone and you wouldn't know...Talking to passengers is quite different, as ... they [are] aware of the road conditions and the fact that you are driving

Anyone experimented on getting a quote from Sheilas Wheels or other similar women-only insurance company??? I did, for my little 1.3 unassuming Hyundai and it was more than 500 quid! Unless someone knows the secret of getting a cheap quote fro one of these places, their adverts talk b******s.

Talking to passengers is quite different, as ... they [are] aware of the road conditions and the fact that you are driving
Unless they are someone who doesn't drive and doesn't have the ability, then the road conditions are meaningless to them, say a child...
As to awareness that you are driving, that's a fairly easy one to solve, when you answer the handsfree you say "i'm in the car". At which point the speaker and microfone could be a passenger sat behind you...

I'll have a look at those links though when I get a minute.

I've read two of those links now Phan, and if anything they support my point.
Any distraction alters your reaction time. Of the two I read, neither specifically mentioned passengers, but they did say that anything that diverts concentration away from driving impairs your reaction speed.

So my point stands, handsfree is no worse than a passenger, so there is no good argument to ban handsfree unless we also ban speaking to passengers.

indeed
Cell phone use is far from the only distraction for motorists. The researchers cite talking to passengers, eating, drinking, lighting cigarettes, applying makeup and listening to the radio as the “old standards” of driver distraction.



and

A 2005 study suggesting that when teenagers and young adults talk on cell phones while driving, their reaction times are as slow as those of elderly drivers.
What exactly are we trying to achieve. If a certain level of risk is unacceptable then it appears that we need to ban the elderly as they are as dangerous as me talking on a phone (hands free or held apparently it makes no difference) or to a passenger.