So Sven brings Walcott instead of Defoe,Bent Ect and then never plays him. I just don't understand it

For the experience apparently.

"It will have served Walcott extremely well for the future. He has been to a World Cup, knows how it is and it will be very good for him in his career."

BBC Sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5139428.stm)

For the experience apparently.

"It will have served Walcott extremely well for the future. He has been to a World Cup, knows how it is and it will be very good for him in his career."

BBC Sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5139428.stm)


So we leave competent strikers at home, severely depleting our chances of scoring goals, leaving us with a bean-pole, a half injured mardy ar*e, a bloke who's injury prone and a 17 yr old, and playing for the World Cup. I hope Walcott's had a great time Sven, thanks for nothing.

sven was a complete waste of time!!! the worst manager we have had in YEARS!

at least keegan has passion!

As hes onlt 17 what good will the experience have done him, in another four years he might have decided to be a fireman or an engine driver and not Roy of the Rovers.
Childish ambitions know no bounds :D

It reminds of that send up by Alistar Macgowan and Roni Ancona, from a few years ago where Nancy wanted to take Micheal Owen to the Euro Cup or somewhere, because she thought he was 'cute' and wanted to adopt him :hihi:

As hes onlt 17 what good will the experience have done him,

it could be argued you need only look no further than porky ronaldo, who attended his first world cup at 17, and i believe he dint play much if any of them finals. it has done him the world of good in the long run

it could be argued you need only look no further than porky ronaldo, who attended his first world cup at 17, and i believe he dint play much if any of them finals. it has done him the world of good in the long run


Come on now, thats crap and you know it. Playing in a World Cup, knowing that you warmed a bench 4 years ago would not help anyone. It makes no sense whatsoever.

As for ronaldo, he would have been just as good whether he went to the World Cup as a youngster or not.

Come on now, thats crap and you know it. Playing in a World Cup, knowing that you warmed a bench 4 years ago would not help anyone. It makes no sense whatsoever.

i dont believe it is crap no, i believe that going to such a major event and being a part of it could prove invaluable for the future

As for ronaldo, he would have been just as good whether he went to the World Cup as a youngster or not.

just as good? are you sure? there is no certain answer for this.

who knows, we may look back in 4 years time when walcott is top scorer of the tournament and leading us to glory in SA (hyporthetical i know, but it could happen :thumbsup: )and think, "well, perhaps sven did alright by us"

some how though, even if the above was true, i doubt sven would ever be thanked

Well I guess we will never know, but even IF this was the case that he might be good in 4 years time, I somehow doubt that this was the reason why Sven chose him. Thinking about a World Cup in 4 years time would be far from in his thoughts. Its all about the here and now.

Total waste of a squad place. Clearly a major blunder by Sven. If he'd wanted to give him experience he could have had him along as a guest to train with the squad.

The striker selection was a farce.

i dont believe it is crap no, i believe that going to such a major event and being a part of it could prove invaluable for the future

He didn't need to be one of the named players in the squad though. Other nations have taken players along for the experience and then named 23 other players to play (including more than one fit striker in many cases).

He didn't need to be one of the named players in the squad though. Other nations have taken players along for the experience and then named 23 other players to play (including more than one fit striker in many cases).

im not aware of any of this to be honest, you got any examples?

im not aware of any of this to be honest, you got any examples?

No, I just read it on another forum, but no-one challenged it there.

On the other hand, wasn't Defoe invited to stay on with the squad?

No, I just read it on another forum, but no-one challenged it there.

On the other hand, wasn't Defoe invited to stay on with the squad?

where is the other forum?

no he was sent packing home once rooney was confirmed as being fit.

I don't understand why Sven couldn't have taken Defoe in the squad, and just taken Walcott to train and sit on the sidelines.

Surely their is no FIFA regulation preventing this if he cannot be named in the squad?

I don't understand why Sven couldn't have taken Defoe in the squad, and just taken Walcott to train and sit on the sidelines.

Surely their is no FIFA regulation preventing this if he cannot be named in the squad?


Perfect. I see no other way. :thumbsup:

I don't understand why Sven couldn't have taken Defoe in the squad, and just taken Walcott to train and sit on the sidelines.

Surely their is no FIFA regulation preventing this if he cannot be named in the squad?

well like i say, im not aware of any, but i just wanted some clarification on other countries who have done it.

im not aware of any of this to be honest, you got any examples?

A lot of the Guardian writers have stated that South Americans will take a 'proper' squad of 23 plus a handful of youngsters who are on the fringes that might benefit from an early exposure to the World Cup.

A lot of the Guardian writers have stated that South Americans will take a 'proper' squad of 23 plus a handful of youngsters who are on the fringes that might benefit from an early exposure to the World Cup.

like i said? any links? not saying it aint true, i would just like to look it up

Then look at the Guardian mate. It's online.

where is the other forum?

no he was sent packing home once rooney was confirmed as being fit.

3rd paragraph (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5063198.stm)

3rd paragraph (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/5063198.stm)

i stand corrected :thumbsup:

It reminds of that send up by Alistar Macgowan and Roni Ancona, from a few years ago where Nancy wanted to take Micheal Owen to the Euro Cup or somewhere, because she thought he was 'cute' and wanted to adopt him :hihi:

I always thought those two managed to capture the real relationship between Sven and Nancy - I especially think they got Sven to a T! :P - that is, bumbling, incompetent and not even sure which player was which - except for his darling Beckham :rolleyes:

Personally, I feel a bit sorry for Theo Walcott - to take him along and then make it obvious to anyone with half a brain you're not going to let the lad play cos you don't have enough faith in him is horrible. I just hope the lad's got a lot of self-confidence, and doesn't think that Sven's made him look too much of a fool.

StarSparkle

We were short of a striker but we would not have second guessed the Owen injury which was totally different to the injury he sustained earlier this year....we were unlucky here

Brazil in 94 took a young 17 year old to the final as part of their squad...he never played a part in any match, his name...Ronaldo.

Overall, the Italians showed the way this evening...played two up front, then stalemate...played with three forwards then four forwards...breakthrough.:)

What i did on holiday by T.Walcott


I went to a place called Germany with my Uncle Sven and some other grown
ups. It is a country in Europe where a bad man called Adolf used to live
withhis nazties, he does not live there anymore, Uncle Owen does live there, and
the grown up's say I cant talk about the bad man as it will make Uncle Owen
cry if I do. In Germany there are lots of castles and some mountains. We are
staying in a place called Baden Baden that's a silly name, Uncle Frank has
the same name as his dad, that's silly too, his mum must get their
underpants mixed up all the time.

On the aeroplane Uncle Sol sat next to me, he got me some toffee and wants
to be my friend, he works at the place where I do my YTS, so does Uncle
Freddy but him and Uncle Sol are not best friends anymore.

Uncle Owen met us at the airport, he talks foreign, Uncle Wayne, Uncle
Steven and Uncle David also talk funny, my mum says Uncle David talks like
Orville, he is a duck, Uncle Sol say's uncle David wears dresses and
knickers, and asked me if I had ever worn them. Uncle Sol got me some pop.

In Germany the grown ups are going to play football, my grandad says we beat
them in the olden days before my mum was born. That is a long time ago.

While the grown up's went to play football so I went shopping with Auntie
Vicky and some other girls she bought me a big ice cream and got herself a
little one but she said she was full before she had eaten any and threw it
away. She bought lots of shoes and handbags and let me play with Brooklyn.
She say's she used to be in a pop band and sang me one of her songs, I think
she was telling fibs.

I told Uncle Sol about my day out with Vicky and he sulked, then he bought
me an even bigger ice cream with lots of hundred's & thousands on it.

All the other grown up's have a girlfriend except Uncle Sol so he plays with
me while they go out. Uncle Sven says I must keep Uncle Sol happy, that's
why I got taken on holiday.

The grown up's went to play Football against somebody called Sweden, Uncle
Sol was crying as Uncle Freddy played for them and would not talk to him.
Uncle Sol bought me lots of toffee today and some crisps. Uncle Sven is from
Sweden and I heard him on the phone to their boss last night. Uncle Michael
hurt his knee and had to go home to his mum for a plaster. Uncle Peter is a
giant, a proper giant like you see in books, he is rubbish at football
though.

Uncle Wayne had a sore toe at the start of out holiday but it got better so
they let him play football. Uncle Sol got me a present but I do not like it.
He says all Germans wear leather underpants and I should while we are here,
they are too tight for me.

All the grown up's started to call Uncle Wayne a potato head who stood on
somebodys spuds. He got shouted at by the referee. They are all saying that
we have to go home now. Uncle Sol was crying again and I had to sit on his
knee to make him stop. He had his mobile phone in his pocket, I think.

Theo Walcott - World Cup Diary


What I did on my summer holiday
By Theo Walcott Esq aged 8 1/2


I went to a place called Germany with my Uncle Sven and some other grown up's.
It is a country in Europe where a bad man called Adolf used to live with his nazties, he does not live there anymore, Uncle Owen does live there, and the grown up's say I cant talk about the bad man as it will make Uncle Owen cry if I do.

In Germany there are lots of castles and some mountains.
We are staying in a place called Baden Baden that's a silly name, Uncle Frank has the same name as his dad, that's silly too, his mum must get their underpants mixed up all the time.

On the aeroplane Uncle Sol sat next to me, he got me some toffee and wants to be my friend, he works at the place where I do my YTS, so does Uncle Freddy but him and Uncle Sol are not best friends anymore.

Uncle Owen met us at the airport, he talks foreign, Uncle Wayne, Uncle Steven and Uncle David also talk funny, my mum says Uncle David talks like Orville, he is a duck, Uncle Sol say's uncle David wears dresses and knickers, and asked me if I had ever worn them. Uncle Sol got me some pop.

In Germany the grown ups are going to play football, my grandad says we beat them in the olden days before my mum was born. That is a long time ago.

While the grown up's went to play football so I went shopping with Auntie Vicky and some other girls she bought me a big ice cream and got herself a little one but she said she was full before she had eaten any and threw it away. She bought lots of shoes and handbags and let me play with Brooklyn.
She say's she used to be in a pop band and sang me one of her songs, I think she was telling fibs.

I told Uncle Sol about my day out with Vicky and he sulked, then he bought me an even bigger ice cream with lots of hundred's & thousands on it.
All the other grown up's have a girlfriend except Uncle Sol so he plays with me while they go out. Uncle Sven says I must keep Uncle Sol happy, that's why I got taken on holiday.

The grown up's went to play Football against somebody called Sweden, Uncle Sol was crying as Uncle Freddy played for them and would not talk to him.
Uncle Sol bought me lots of toffee today and some crisps. Uncle Sven is from Sweden and I heard him on the phone to their boss last night. Uncle Michael hurt his knee and had to go home to his mum for a plaster. Uncle Peter is a
giant, a proper giant like you see in books, he is rubbish at football though.

Uncle Wayne had a sore toe at the start of out holiday but it got better so they let him play football. Uncle Sol got me a present but I do not like it.
He says all Germans wear leather underpants and I should while we are here, they are too tight for me.

All the grown up's started to call Uncle Wayne a potato head who stood on somebodys spuds. He got shouted at by the referee.
They are all saying that we have to go home now.

Uncle Sol was crying again and I had to sit on his knee to make him stop. He had his mobile phone in his pocket, I think.

ooops. sorry.

Uncle Sol was crying again and I had to sit on his knee to make him stop. He had his mobile phone in his pocket, I think.

I particularly like the insinuation that because Sol Campbell may be gay he must also be a paedophile.....

I particularly like the insinuation that because Sol Campbell may be gay he must also be a paedophile.....


ooh your in a bitchy mood today, walcotts 17 and this is a light hearted joke, if you don't like it don't read it

ooh your in a bitchy mood today, walcotts 17 and this is a light hearted joke, if you don't like it don't read it


Doesnt he need to read it before he can find out he doesnt like it? :huh:

surely the first couple of sentences would give him an idea of the content

What i did on holiday by T.Walcott


That is absolutely wicked! LOL!

You are a very bad man, Lee_at_69 :hihi: :P

StarSparkle

You are a very bad man, Lee_at_69 :hihi: :P

Why thank you