Is it policy in sheffield that if children are late twice in one week their parents are took to court.
OR
Is this schools way of putting pressure on teenagers who attend but are 5 minutes late.

Anyone know anything.

I don't know, but it sounds like something that would come out of David Blunkets mouth this close to an election.

It is unlikely that court action would be sought so quickly because of cost and logistical reasons.

If what you suggested was the case then Sheffield's court system would grind to a hault.

More New Labour hot air probably

I think this is more to do with truancy than lateness. Parents who don't send kids to school so many times in a term can be prosecuted if there is no reasonable reason.

Late twice in a week is more to do with penalising the learner for not being on time. As they are attending, I guess it's more up to them to improve their time keeping skills than punishing the parents.

He was late this morning, and this afternoon and was shown a letter stating two lates and court, by the welfare officer at school.
He never misses a lesson just registration.

He never wags is 15, is in top sets and gets letters home telling me how good his work is and he always hand it in on time.

I think they are more worried about their figures than to justify taking me to court for my son being late. They should be greatful he attends a lot don`t bother at 15, but he cares about his education.

I shall contact school tomorrow and let you all know the outcome.

Sounds a bit rough rosie.

Looks like another case of punishing the tryers, and rewarding the dossers to me.

Good luck to you and your kid with this one:thumbsup:

Have been on Sheffield education web site and this is what is said.

Lateness can damage your childs education almost as much as absence and is an offence which may be prosecuted in court.

How can it be damaging his education when he has a`s for Effort and a`s for work and achievement.

They should look at the child not put all children in the same boat, put`s those off that try hard.

Registration is a legal requirement just like attending the lessons. Has your son said why he avoids it ?

If he's avoiding registration because there's some problem with his tutor then the school needs to be made aware of it so it can be sorted out.

I wonder if the school is worried that your son is missing pastoral time that is usually part of registration. Your son may not see that as important in terms of his education - maybe his tutor needs to explain to him why it is important.

I don't know if your son intends to leave full time education when he's 16 and go straight to work but the references supplied by teachers for pupils are based in part on attendance & time keeping.

Goodluck with sorting it :)

He does not always miss registration, his name is the first on the register and if he arrives half way down the register he is marked late.

He has had no specific tutor for a year he has been off ill.

He understands about attendance but he is always there at lessons. And why pick on someone for late marks when a lot of their pupils never attend at all, perhaps they should see to them first.

This is just a possibility rosie, but maybe the school are so proud of your kid, and of his work rate that they are being overly protective of him.

They've probably given up on the ones who can't be bothered.

Doesn't stop you worrying though does it.

Originally posted by rosie
Have been on Sheffield education web site and this is what is said.

Lateness can damage your childs education almost as much as absence and is an offence which may be prosecuted in court.

How can it be damaging his education when he has a`s for Effort and a`s for work and achievement.

They should look at the child not put all children in the same boat, put`s those off that try hard.

Yeah, don't punish the good kids cos of the stupid actions of the chavs.

Like I remember when the whole class used to get detention cos of one nutter of a chav who was acting the goat.

I used to see DB get chucked out of his arch enemy Mr Lyons's classes quite a bit... Then again I seem to recall getting chucked out myself by old man Lyons once or twice ;)

yeah ive got this friend in my class and she comes in like 5 minutes after registration started and our teacher has a massive spaz at her and she threatened to give her detention once. i think its rather tight since her bus times are all weird..

Originally posted by rosie
He does not always miss registration, his name is the first on the register and if he arrives half way down the register he is marked late.

Rosie, that's victimisation. If he's there before the end of registration then he's not late.

If he's leaving home on time is he possibly avoiding contact with certain other kids on the way to school ? Perhaps he's being got at....worth checking.

The world's gone mad. There's still not enough being done to stop habitual truancy and don't set me off about the inaction against bullying in schools.
This smacks off a completely disproportionate response and I suspect against a "soft target" I wonder if they would have been so quick if Rosie had a reputation for going down to the school and threatening the staff everytime they upset her lad?
Advice: phone the Star with the story and embarrass the School with some bad publicity.... it may cause them to re-examine this policy

Originally posted by vothod
yeah ive got this friend in my class and she comes in like 5 minutes after registration started and our teacher has a massive spaz at her and she threatened to give her detention once. i think its rather tight since her bus times are all weird..

And that's part of the problem IMO, the Government are banging on about how they want people to ditch the car and use buses more, which is all well and good in theory but in practice it wouldn't work cos buses are too unreliable.

I used to miss registration all the time at school. I couldn't see any pastoral education, it really was a complete waste of everyones time. I got detention all the time as well, so I thought I'd not bother at all and just started truanting. Somehow they never gave me detention for doing that. Schools take the mick in the standards that they expect from kids sometimes, mostly beacuse they are run by nutter control freaks (headteachers).

it's true that generally teachers clamp down on kids that try hard compared to the dossers who turn up like 10 minutes late.
I think that's a bit unjust, don't you agree?

Just heard from school and they have been really good. At 15 it is something that a lot do, they don`t look at the time and don`t rush.

Apparently the welfare officer does not know individual pupils and so she says what she feels is necessary.
She will be informed just how well at school my son does and he is by know means the worst in school.
I don`t think she dealt with the problem very well.

I have arranged what to do if this is still occuring and he is still late, his head of year is always helpful.

I wonder is it such a good idea that the welfare officer does not know the pupils and perhaps if they are good or bad students, I thought it was their job to know that information.

Originally posted by Siân
Registration is a legal requirement just like attending the lessons. Has your son said why he avoids it ?

If he's avoiding registration because there's some problem with his tutor then the school needs to be made aware of it so it can be sorted out.

I wonder if the school is worried that your son is missing pastoral time that is usually part of registration. Your son may not see that as important in terms of his education - maybe his tutor needs to explain to him why it is important.

I don't know if your son intends to leave full time education when he's 16 and go straight to work but the references supplied by teachers for pupils are based in part on attendance & time keeping.

Goodluck with sorting it :)

Pastoral time?? What a load of old tosh!!!! The schools should be doing what they are meant to do.. that is teach!!

It sounds to me as though there's a case of someone's power gone to their head. Picking on a pupil who is doing well will have one result, putting him/her off bothering to make an effort.

I have a word with the boy and explain why it is important to turn up for registration on time, but if this continues, I'd be having the tutor hauled up to the head teacher's office to sort out why he's being picked on.

Originally posted by vothod
yeah ive got this friend in my class and she comes in like 5 minutes after registration started and our teacher has a massive spaz at her and she threatened to give her detention once. i think its rather tight since her bus times are all weird..

like Perhaps it would be like to pay like some attention to like your English lessons like, cos' I'm sooooo not knowing like what you're talking about.

Originally posted by KangaREW

It sounds to me as though there's a case of someone's power gone to their head. Picking on a pupil who is doing well will have one result, putting him/her off bothering to make an effort.
Welfare Officer? Is this a new post? In such circumstances self-justification, a need to be seen getting on with the job, getting results and of course expanding the role and it's importance within the system come into play. Perspective and common sense frequently fly out of the window and those at the receiving end see someone who, as you correctly observe, has let a little power go to their head