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27-06-2006, 21:29
I hear Harry's going to die in the next book, true or faulse ?
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View Full Version : Harry Potter to die? (May Contain Spoilers) poppins 27-06-2006, 21:29 I hear Harry's going to die in the next book, true or faulse ? Meaks 27-06-2006, 21:32 Maybe. JK Rowling has said two characters will die in the seventh and final Harry Potter book, but she has been careful not to reveal which ones. Rowling to kill two in final book (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5119836.stm) Kristian 27-06-2006, 21:36 I hear Harry's going to die in the next book, true or faulse ? Definately Faulse I reckon; I thnk it will be someone central but not the main character. ANGELUS 27-06-2006, 21:44 Well Voldemort and Harry are linked- so you cant kill one without the other one dying. I think Harry is gonna kick the bucket! pinklady 27-06-2006, 21:55 Hope so :cool: ________ White Widow Seeds (http://marijuanaseeds.org/) GazE 27-06-2006, 22:41 Well Voldemort and Harry are linked- so you cant kill one without the other one dying. I think Harry is gonna kick the bucket! Personally I think Snape is going to die to save Harry. It’s pretty obvious that one of the central 3 will die, but I just can't see it being Harry. Although they are linked, there are a good few theories that involve the Demontor's kiss and that breaking the link between Voldemort and Harry. If Harry say has both souls within him, then the kiss would only remove one, allowing one of them to survive. Rich 28-06-2006, 09:44 If they do kill Harry off in book 7, wonder how t=hat would turn out in the eventual film? Maybe Warner Bros woould censor it and have it as deleted scenes for the DVD so as not to upset the kiddies. fox20thc 28-06-2006, 09:46 Personally I think Snape is going to die to save Harry. It’s pretty obvious that one of the central 3 will die, but I just can't see it being Harry. Nah, Snape has already gone over to the darkside, he was present when dumbledore was offed by malfoy. Rich 28-06-2006, 09:48 Nah, Snape has already gone over to the darkside, he was present when dumbledore was offed by malfoy. Snape posts on the "other" board?! :lol: fox20thc 28-06-2006, 09:48 Snape posts on the "other" board?! :lol: :o didn't you know? ;) Rich 28-06-2006, 09:51 What? That Alan Rickman (Snape in the films) posts on the "Dark side"? :P SL31 28-06-2006, 11:15 Nah, Snape has already gone over to the darkside, he was present when dumbledore was offed by malfoy. Dumbeldore was offed by Snape, not Malfoy...the little weasel couldnt do it,.... and Snape and Malfoy had the unbreakable something or other by Malfoys mother,....so Snape had to kill Dumbledore otherwise he would have died fox20thc 28-06-2006, 11:16 I stand corrected. :) GazE 28-06-2006, 12:10 Snape was coerced into doing an unbreakable link by Mrs Malfoy. The basis of it was that Voldemort had got Malfoy to attempt to kill Dumbledore, but if he couldn't Malfoy would die in his place (does this sound like anyone else's boss:)). The unbreakable link meant that Snape was tied into Malfoys fate, so unless Dumbledore died, both Snape and Malfoy died. Malfoy couldn't kill Dumbledore, he tried to but failed in his attempts. At the final point Dumbledore was unarmed and couldn't have stopped Malfoy from doing anything, but Malfoy just didn't have it in him to kill. So Snape did the deed. It raises a lot of interesting points for the next book. The main point is if Snape was under orders to do whatever was necessary, I can’t believe that Dumbledore was wrong about him, but maybe its just a point about no-one being right all the time? It also raises that Malfoy may not actually be evil, he's certainly unpleasant, but maybe he might be the hero when all is said and done? I can see JK doing some sort of about turn, how no one (apart from voldemort) is beyond redemption. That’s my take on it anyway (might have got some stuff slightly wrong as not re-read the 6th book since I read it first time it came out). Till Man 28-06-2006, 12:45 "Albus" translates as "white" and a dumbledore is a bumblebee.......... So Albus Dumbledore or "Bumblebee the White" who died in the last book, will return as "Bumblebee the Grey" Plausible???? ANGELUS 28-06-2006, 13:08 Although they are linked, there are a good few theories that involve the Demontor's kiss and that breaking the link between Voldemort and Harry. If Harry say has both souls within him, then the kiss would only remove one, allowing one of them to survive. Aaah good thinking that! Very good indeed. It could be possible then for sure. I reckon dumbledore will come back in someway in the last book, as a ghost or something along those lines to help harry out. SL31 28-06-2006, 13:30 I'm still hoping that Snape is not bad,....:( Mathom 28-06-2006, 17:03 "Albus" translates as "white" and a dumbledore is a bumblebee.......... So Albus Dumbledore or "Bumblebee the White" who died in the last book, will return as "Bumblebee the Grey" Plausible???? Meh! Nice bit of LOTR plagiarism if she does do this! I actually think Snape is not evil. There was just too much about the scenes with Dumbledore that did not ring true if Snape really was evil. I think that both of them knew that Dumbledore could end up dying and had dan 'understanding'. Plus if neither of them had died then Malfoy would have copped it, and to kill one of his own students would have made Dumbledore look like the bad guy. GazE 28-06-2006, 17:04 "Albus" translates as "white" and a dumbledore is a bumblebee.......... So Albus Dumbledore or "Bumblebee the White" who died in the last book, will return as "Bumblebee the Grey" Plausible???? YES! Its very plausible. Takes a bit of a leap of faith though. Read the description of what happens to Dumbledores body at his funeral (I've got an Australian version as bought it when I was travelling, the page in that is 601, think it will be the same). Bright flames engulf his body, somewhat like happens to a phoenix when it is reborn, indeed just like Fawkes. Harry even thinks he sees a phoenix! So not a grey bumblebee, but in some shape or form Dumbledore will return. $imone 28-06-2006, 17:07 I hear Harry's going to die in the next book, true or faulse ? She always says this - so people buy the boos as soon as they can! But - isn't it about time that he dies? Oh, wasn't he dead about two times??? I don't care! dieselbabe 28-06-2006, 19:45 Jk as always said that she only doing 7 books and it is not to come back when the 1st books came out. So im guessing that Harry will be killed off as it was also said that after the 7th book she is not doing anymore so killing of 2 of the main people in the book then no one can bring it back, It was on a interview very early in the morning i saw it on. She killled dumbledore off and he was one big main caractor so why not Harry, I do enjoy reading these books but i know it can not go on forever. taxman 28-06-2006, 20:16 Meh! Nice bit of LOTR plagiarism if she does do this! I actually think Snape is not evil. There was just too much about the scenes with Dumbledore that did not ring true if Snape really was evil. I think that both of them knew that Dumbledore could end up dying and had dan 'understanding'. Plus if neither of them had died then Malfoy would have copped it, and to kill one of his own students would have made Dumbledore look like the bad guy. I think that when Dumbledore was pleading with Snape at the end he wasn't begging that his own life be saved, he was pleading with Snape to kill him instead of letting Malfoy do it because Malfoy is somehow destined to become a major player in the final book when the four houses of Hogwarts must come together in order to defeat Voldemort. Voldemort and Harry then die. Or some such twaddle. Hecate 28-06-2006, 21:52 I think that when Dumbledore was pleading with Snape at the end he wasn't begging that his own life be saved, he was pleading with Snape to kill him instead of letting Malfoy do it because Malfoy is somehow destined to become a major player in the final book when the four houses of Hogwarts must come together in order to defeat Voldemort. ... Now that is a very good theory, and it fits in with the idea that Snape can't possibly be a bad guy. I believe that Dumbledore was indeed pleading for Snape to kill him, because they'd previously agreed that that is what Snape would do in that situation. Dumbledore couldn't possibly allow Malfoy to perform an unforgivable curse, as it would set in stone a dreadful path for him to follow. I don't think that Malfoy will have a major role in the next book though. I think he's there mainly as a 'compare and contrast' for Harry, and to illustrate the theme of redemption. Not that I'm a Harry Potter fan, of course... NEKRO138 29-06-2006, 09:32 I think Potter will die then come back as a kind of spirit guide so as to not upset the kiddies. Like when you could see Liono's dad after his death in Thundercats and Obi Wan in Star Wars. $imone 29-06-2006, 09:34 I think Potter will die then come back as a kind of spirit guide so as to not upset the kiddies. Like when you could see Liono's dad after his death in Thundercats and Obi Wan in Star Wars. You can't speak in two sentence about Potterthingies and Star Wars:shocked: Mathom 29-06-2006, 12:52 If you think about it, the 'murder' of Dumbledore by Snape makes sense. Snape is the Order's man in the Death Eaters, he needs to maintain that facade. Of course the ultimate test of this is killing Dumbledore, as it would be like killing your own father if you were in the Order. If Snape and Dumbledore did have an arrangement for this eventuality then it only underlines just how loyal Snape really is, and how strong too. I reckon that JK may gradually reveal this in the last book, but that she's also perfectly capable of doing that and then going back again and turning the whole thing on its head by having Snape really be evil again. I wonder if the Weasley parents will die in this book? All the kids are grown up now, and the books seem to gradually 'pick off' all Harry's parent figures - Sirius, Dumbledore, etc. Hecate 29-06-2006, 22:56 I'm utterly convinced that Harry won't die. A series like that requires a happy resolution, and I think the stage has been set for Harry to get together with Ginny Weasley and live happily ever after. I think Snape will die, and possibly one of the Weasleys. Dumbledore will make some form of resurrection, as befits the owner of Fawkes the phoenix :) . GazE 29-06-2006, 23:51 I think Snape will die, and possibly one of the Weasleys. Dumbledore will make some form of resurrection, as befits the owner of Fawkes the phoenix :) . I think it's going to be Snape and Neville Longbottom. A lot of groundwork has been put in to make Neville a reluctant hero, to fulfil his potential he has to do "something" on a grand scale. Hecate 30-06-2006, 08:02 I think it's going to be Snape and Neville Longbottom. A lot of groundwork has been put in to make Neville a reluctant hero, to fulfil his potential he has to do "something" on a grand scale. I'm not too sure about Neville being doomed. He's the underdog; he needs to be seen to triumph. Maybe he'll go out in a blaze of glory though? I'd actually be fairly surprised if one of the younger characters died. Although some might argue that JK Rowling's work is a little more sophisticated than some, the children are there partly for young readers to identify with. It would be rather darker than I'd expect for her to kill off a character that so many children might see themselves in. I'd suggest that it's going to be two of the adult characters who will meet their fate in the next book. GazE 30-06-2006, 17:10 I'm not too sure about Neville being doomed. He's the underdog; he needs to be seen to triumph. Maybe he'll go out in a blaze of glory though? I'd actually be fairly surprised if one of the younger characters died. Although some might argue that JK Rowling's work is a little more sophisticated than some, the children are there partly for young readers to identify with. It would be rather darker than I'd expect for her to kill off a character that so many children might see themselves in. I'd suggest that it's going to be two of the adult characters who will meet their fate in the next book. I'm thinking about him going out in some fantastic way where he saves everyone. There might be a bit more to the premonition about Harry and Voldemort involving Neville more deeply than has previously been mentioned? I’ll be surprised if it is Neville, as you say, killing off a younger character is somewhat out of order. But it adds shock value and allows Neville to be built up to a proper noble hero. Also if it is Neville it allows Ron to survive which is good! If its not a kid who dies then it will have to be either Hagrid or Lupin I would think. JK's dug a bit of a hole for herself here I think though, only 2 main character's dying doesn't seem enough to me. Bearing in mind that Voldemort and all the Deatheaters have to die/be captured as well as the werewolf and quite a few of the giants etc it doesn't really give her any scope? I would have thought at least one of the minor Weasleys would have died, like Bill or Charlie, maybe they aren't big enough to be counted in the main 2? Longcol 30-06-2006, 20:57 I'd put my money on Snape and Hagrid. Hecate 30-06-2006, 21:03 I'm more convinced now that Snape will be one of the doomed. Although we don't know how or why he changed allegiance from the Deatheaters to Dumbledore (though I'm sure he did!), it's impossible to dispute that he is (or at least was) fundamentally a dark and dubious character. I reckon he'll die in an act of self-sacrifice, rather akin to why Spike had to die in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Oh dear. There goes any credibility I once had on this forum :hihi: . taxman 30-06-2006, 21:50 I'm more convinced now that Snape will be one of the doomed. Although we don't know how or why he changed allegiance from the Deatheaters to Dumbledore (though I'm sure he did!), it's impossible to dispute that he is (or at least was) fundamentally a dark and dubious character. I reckon he'll die in an act of self-sacrifice, rather akin to why Spike had to die in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Oh dear. There goes any credibility I once had on this forum :hihi: . My God Lady H what a wonderful and insightful post. I prostrate myself before you, surely no-one else could possibly see through the blur and cloud of deceit into the truth of the rainbow that shines.......no sorry, can't go on, feeling sick taxmarckle Hecate 30-06-2006, 22:05 My God Lady H what a wonderful and insightful post. I prostrate myself before you, surely no-one else could possibly see through the blur and cloud of deceit into the truth of the rainbow that shines.......no sorry, can't go on, feeling sick taxmarckle No, do go on. I was enjoying basking in the glow of your prose :D . kel83 03-07-2006, 13:45 JKR also said that someone who she had planned to die, had a repreive. I think that Ron is going to die. I'm convinved that the chess game in book 1 (I think it was 1?) is a foreshadowing of the future- Ron will sacrifice himself so that Harry can go on to defeat Voldemort. banesmabes 03-07-2006, 13:52 JKR has stated that she can understand why authors kill their main character off so that they can't be revived, so maybe, just maybe.... |