Just recieved a leaflet from Onyx saying that iam to get a Green bin in July for garden waste as a trial until July2006, After that time if successful it will be spread out city wide,The bins will be the size of the black bins and will be emptied twice a month March-Novenber and monthly December-February
Apart from the fact that my garden is being over run with Black/Blue/Green bins i think its another positive step for recycling.
What does everyone else think?
Also its only a matter of time before we get another bin for plastics, what colour should they make that bin? I would go for Clear that i can put my blue,green or black bin in it depending on what colour i want the clear bin to change in to!.

Cripes.. I'm running out of space for bins. A garden rubbish bin will stink to high heaven won't it?

Maybe a better idea would be to provide everyone with composting bins for garden waste. That way, it gives people the chance to fertilise their own land with their own waste products, and if they don't want to use the compost, they can sell it to the council and make a few quid out of it.

Originally posted by Wavey
Cripes.. I'm running out of space for bins. A garden rubbish bin will stink to high heaven won't it?

My thought also. Soon we'r gonna need Bins for the Bins.

My parents in leeds have two bins. The second one is for everything to be recycled and then its sorted later. This seems quite a good idea as space is limmited especialy in the small terraced houses and I notice allot of people already keep their bins on the pavement.

We tried to hire a bin from a well known waste disposal company beinning with B and ending with iffa recently. I was asked to fill in a dozen forms before they'd consider hiring out one. This included trade references, permission to contact my bank so the bank could give an opinion about me, a credit check, details of what exactly I'd be using the bin for, code references about the contents of the bin and I had to refer to a special manual for this......blah, blah, blah. All this for a dustbin!!! Let's just say, I've not bothered and told them so by phone using the words 'ridiuculous', 'excessive' and 'bureaucratic'.

I have five green bins for bottles from the pub which are taken away regularly by a glass recycling company.

If it comes with a "special manual" it could be worth seeing.

1 - open bin

2 - but object in bin

3 - close bin

Maybe if you ask nicley they could send you on a special bin trainning course!!

Originally posted by unners
Apart from the fact that my garden is being over run with Black/Blue/Green bins i think its another positive step for recycling. What does everyone else think?

I think it's another token effort by Onyx to hit the bare minimum recycling targets for Sheffield, while sneaking in a larger incinerator thorugh the back door (with special thanks to our Labour council)

Originally posted by unners
Also its only a matter of time before we get another bin for plastics, what colour should they make that bin?

That's unlikely to happen. I doubt Onyx would ever push for a comprehensive recycling policy for Sheffield (including aluminim / tin cans, bottles, plastic etc) when the waste can all be flung into an incinerator to make more cash with little effort, even if it does negatively affect the local environment.

When I questioned one of the robots at the Onyx Propaganda trailer (you've probably seen it at the top of Fargate / Barkers Pool) he didn't know when Onyx would start providing door-to-door collection of domestic material recycling. 'It's something we're looking at for the future' was his response, or some platitude to that effect.

Originally posted by unners
Just recieved a leaflet from Onyx saying that iam to get a Green bin in July for garden waste as a trial until July2006, After that time if successful it will be spread out city wide,The bins will be the size of the black bins and will be emptied twice a month March-Novenber and monthly December-February
Apart from the fact that my garden is being over run with Black/Blue/Green bins i think its another positive step for recycling.
What does everyone else think?
Also its only a matter of time before we get another bin for plastics, what colour should they make that bin? I would go for Clear that i can put my blue,green or black bin in it depending on what colour i want the clear bin to change in to!.


surely the council would be doing more for recycling by providing a bin for plastic and glass??
typical onyx....i tried to get a bigger bin as we are a big ish household, and was told i had to write and request one. then they would monitor my waste for a couple of months and make a decision on whether it would be worth it!!!! They then asked me if i recycled? Oh yes says I, its soooooo easy to get on a bus with baby twins in a pram, plus a 5 yr old and bags of stuff for recycling. which would be the only way icould get to the nearest recycling place at the time!!!!
i ask ya.........:rolleyes: :loopy:

sue:D :D :D

Which areas are they trying this out in ?

Wouldn't it be better to have one big bin (like a dumpster) that was seperated into different compartments for different trash? Then maybe you could make it a nice natural green to blend into your garden! Or maybe not.

Still if I got a green bin I'd use it. Maybe plastics would be the way to go though. I tend to have more plastic that garden waste anyhow.

What will they think of next ?

A yellow bin for glass ?

What about a red bin to put politicians with annoying ideas in ?

We've had a compost bin for the last few months, can't fault them really - it's better for your garden waste to be composted than chucked in a hole in the ground somewhere.

As for plastic bottles, I save 'em in a big bag and take them to my parents' house in Nottinghamshire who have a plastic bottle recycling bin.

I'm not exactly the keenest of gardeners, so why will I ever need a garden waste bin? All I do is cut my grass (there isn't that much of it) and I don't think I'll ever be filling any wheely bins to the brim with 'garden waste'- unless garden waste includes the debris from those boozy summer barbeques! ;-)

The money would be better spent making sure onyx actually came and collected the blue paper bins on the day they say they'll do it, not 2-4 days afterwards. I think mine has been collected on schedule once, and I've now just about given up on it.

Why should I fill it and put it out if they don't make the effort to come and pick it up?

Here in Rotherham, we have a box to put tins, glass and textiles into for recycleing. It's collected every other week. We also put paper into blue bags for collection on the same day.

It works well - the things don't take up too much space and it's not really any hassle to chuck bottles etc. into a box.

Three wheelie bins seems a bit OTT.

Our blue bins should have been emptied today.
(sharrowvale)
Guess what?

Our blue bins should have been emptied today. (sharrowvale) Guess what?
Maybe the council's accidentally inciner.. I mean, "recycled" the bin collection people?
:rolleyes:

Excellent, another bin blocking the pavement.

Wouldn't it be better to supply compost bins?

I've seen blue bins being used as goal posts, makes a change from jumpers.

Originally posted by tas1
Which areas are they trying this out in ?

The South Sheffield areas, Mosborough,Halfway,Sothall,Westfield etc.

I ordered a composting bin via Onyx from a firm in Leeds whose name begins with a B.

I placed my order over two months ago and it finally arrived today!!

The bin is great and if you order it now you might get it in time for the Winter. Better waiting for the free ones and using the compost on your own garden.

At least your getting bins, down here in notts we get green plastic bags for garden waste, and as soon as you put owt in it, the flaming bottom falls out of it....

It's not just garden waste - you can put any veggie scraps in from the kitchen as well.

The heat that these bins create when they are due for emptying is quite amazing, as is the smell. Remember to keep them in the shade:(

Compost bins do seem a far better idea. How are Onyx going to justify the cost of a totally unnecessary collection? Who's paying for it?

Sheffield Council taxpayers are paying for it! Thanks to a Labour Council

Really? Blimey, what a total waste of money and a utter lack of joined up thinking. We're governed by idiots. :loopy:

Its another example of Labour concentrating on what looks good in press releases rather than thinking ideas through and finding something that works! :rant:

Well it's a good idea but I'd rather see bins for plastics and cans.

I already compost all my garden and kitchen waste so it wouldn't be any use to me.

I'd agree with others in that Onyx are just trying to make sure they reach the government quotas for recycling. (also I'm sure they are keen to reduce the amount of this sort of waste going into the incinerator as it cools it down and makes it inefficient !!!).

The incinerator is a complete waste of money as I reckon in the next few years European environment laws will get even tighter and they will struggle to keep it within legal limits.... they just haven't thought about the long term future of it.

Originally posted by tas1
It's not just garden waste - you can put any veggie scraps in from the kitchen as well.

Not according to the leaflet it says, The following should not be put in bin, food or kichen waste,rubble,soil(clean your plants!)Japanese knotweed?!,dog,rabbit,cat or small animal waste(i shall have to bury my dead dog instead then!),nappies,carrier bags,bin liners.If you put any of these things in the bin they will not empty it and they will put a "contamination sticker" on it! And you will have to take the offending waste out and wait until the next collection. Also if you overload the bin you might get a "heavy bin sticker" put on it and you will have to lighten the load.

God so much to remember,would'nt mind but my garden is nearly all gravel and decking!

In Grimsby we have 2 biins and boxes

Brown bin for garden waste
Green bin for normal stuff
Orange box for paper
Green box for glass
Blue box for plasic bottles

its quite a good system actually

the only problem is, you live in Grimsby. I lived there for two years, left lat year. The entire town wants incinerating.:(

do you live in grimsby? your location says sheff

Originally posted by unners

Also its only a matter of time before we get another bin for plastics, what colour should they make that bin? I would go for Clear that i can put my blue,green or black bin in it depending on what colour i want the clear bin to change in to!.

Here in Germany we have loads of bins:
Brown for biodegradable (food rest, compost)
Blue for paper
Yellow for recyclable packaging (metal, plastics)
Grey/Black for the rest.

The binmen check the contents and if there's anything in there that shouldn't be they don't take the bin and you risk a fine.

System works really. The trick is the kerbside collection. No rrom in my kitchen thoughYellow

Got my leaflet today. What it ommits to tell you [or at least I couldnt find it] is where the stuff is being composted and what they are doing with it.

Will we get it back for free or will we have to pay for compost that we provided the raw ingredients for ?

As for the incinerator.... good idea. Less holes in ground and provides CHP. Just get the waste stack scrubbed proper and jobs a good un :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Fletch
In Grimsby we have 2 biins and boxes

Brown bin for garden waste
Green bin for normal stuff
Orange box for paper
Green box for glass
Blue box for plasic bottles

its quite a good system actually

OOhhh! LOTS of bins to block the pavements with!

Dear god! as someone said earlier, you cannot shift for the idle so and sos who don't bring their bins in from one week to the next!

Now, they have introduced the blue bin, which also blocks the pavements just about as much as the wheelie bin...

I cannot get my wheelchair along the local roads here, already- by gum, I shan't be able to shift outside my house once a third bin is introduced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This idea has surely not been thought out properly. I am writing to onyx to complain about the way that the bins are just strewn across the pavements after collection, not placed back with care making sure that access is maintained all along the pavement.

And in the city centre, don't get me started on those dratted industrial size wheelie bins, blocking paths off completely!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

PT

I think by kitchen waste they mean the general non-vegetable matter. This can definately be composted without a problem.

Personally if it means less going into a landfill then all the better.

Originally posted by kookie
do you live in grimsby? your location says sheff

my dad lives in Grimsby and i visit him at the weekends

Originally posted by fhain29
Here in Germany we have loads of bins:
Brown for biodegradable (food rest, compost)
Blue for paper
Yellow for recyclable packaging (metal, plastics)
Grey/Black for the rest.

The binmen check the contents and if there's anything in there that shouldn't be they don't take the bin and you risk a fine.

System works really. The trick is the kerbside collection. No rrom in my kitchen thoughYellow

where abouts in Germany do you live?


i must admit i find the blue bins a total waste of time, they are not big enough, they arent collected on time (or at all), they arent put back properly (like the black ones). its a real pain.

PT i feel sorry for you!

I don't live in Grimsby any more. We saw the light and got out. We used to own the newsagents on the conrner of Durban Road opposite the library. Where does your dad live?

Got mi household bin,Blue un ,Green un (not the paper!!) for garden crap,one for plastic,another for glass....I could have a whole fleet of bins up the side of my house.lovely!

Let's not get our hopes up for a comprehensive kerb-side recycling service in Sheffield while Labour continue to be in power. Their catchphrase of a 'greener' Sheffield relies on the number of trees we have, rather than their efforts :loopy:

Sheffield City Council do not believe that recycling is the answer (http://www.sheffieldgreenparty.org.uk/let/lett/bernard/bird.html)

in southampton we used to have garden wast collection and it was great. but they have it for a reason and that is to reach the recycling quota. southampton council was short of its quota and after introducing garden waste collection in just 10% of the city they reached the quota, its cheaper than recycling cans, glass and paper. And the compost was they sold back to the public.

I take it that they'll ask householders if they want one, as not everyone has a garden or a big enough garden to use a green bin.

Even though I have a reasonably sized garden I don't really produce enough garden waste to warrant a regular collection and a green bin taking yet more space off my driveway.

I'd prefer it if they'd either give me a bigger blue bin or collect it more frequently, as it's normally full within a few days.

Really I think the onus on recycling and rubbish collection should be on the manufacturers who see fit to package everything in about three layers of cardboard and plastic.

Reduce the packaging, the waste will reduce and we'll all be happier.