strange question - does anyone know where a nuclear bunker is in sheffield? i saw a tv show on shelters(yes i am sad for watching it) but it got me thinking sheffields a big city so where is its shelters?can anyone help?

cheers

DAVE

could have been the hole in the road. We could've all sat against the wall behind a pillow and bit of wood, such as a door or bit of bench.:)

Dont know if there are any, but in the film 'Threads', there was one under the old eggbox building.

apparently there is one under the Moorfoot building for the civil servants.

Originally posted by slh73
Dont know if there are any, but in the film 'Threads', there was one under the old eggbox building.

*sniggers*

This was discussed in a thread about tunnels under sheffield once I think. Try having a browse here:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=891&perpage=15&highlight=tunnels&pagenumber=2

Not sure what was concluded, you'll have to read through it.

Thanks for the link to the tunnels site - thats really cool - i always knew sheffield was much more intersting than it looked - about those tunnels an old teacher of mine used to live in an old monestry somewhere in sheffield and she always sed there was a tunnel going from her house to manor castle and sheffield castle - does anyone know if people managed to get in to the tunnels?

DAVE

Just been reading about the binkers in manchester. quite interesting reading and it seems that the underground world still exists. Shame people aren't allowed in them.

http://www.cybertrn.demon.co.uk/guardian/index.htm

Andy
Interesting link. Thanks for that. I used to work for BT in Manchester but never got to go down the tunnels although colleagues of mine did. If I'm not mistaken, the big fire that knocked out all the phones in Manchester last month was in the Guardian exchange tunnels.
If you're into this kind of thing there is a nuclear bunker open to the public in Nantwich, Cheshire and Stockport has a system of tunnels that are also open to the public. These weren't nuclear bunkers but are much older and were used in WW2 as air raid shelters. Well worth a visit.
http://www.funforall.co.uk/museums_north_west_england.htm

hey thanks every1 i got my answer to my question - a mate o mine reackons high stors skools got a bunker under the playin field - any one confirm that? sheffields tunnels seem really interesting anyone know a way in?

the old infermery on infermert road next to safeways, has tunnels leading off to the hospitals and other places used back in the war.
suposed to be haunted too.

Originally posted by Cols
If you're into this kind of thing there is a nuclear bunker open to the public in Nantwich, Cheshire

The road signs for this say 'Secret Nuclear Bunker' - which always make me laugh!

During a Civil Defence excercise in the 80s Sheffield's control centre was reported to be a broom cupboard in the Town Hall.

I came across this whilst looking up some other stuff - it's a declassified document that can be Googled.

Sheffield was (is??) a Nuclear Free Zone, and I assume the council expected the effects of weapons dropped around Sheffield to abide by this!

I believe that only Switzerland and China had set policies for getting large numbers of civiliians in to shelters during a nuclear exchange in the cold war. The USSR had some shelters, western cities with metro systems were expected to make use of them.

The US attitude was 'duck and cover' - kids went through drills in the 1950s and 1960s in which they dived under their school desks, although some cities and towns did implement a basic shelter programme.

The problem is how do you get umpteen million people in to shelters in less than half an hour max. warning? (More like several minutes) without causing widespread panic. This was a major issue to UK planners as there had been several times in WW2 where people panicked on the way to shelters and lots of folks got crushed to death in the stampede.

The 'Crewe Scenario' in 'Threads', where Crewe gets bombed to knock out the rail junctions - could easily have been applied to Doncaster, and as RAF Finningley and possibly Bawtry could have expected to have received attention from the Soviet Union, it's likely that shelters in Sheffield would have served to allow us to conveniently bury ourselves to save the powers that be the effort afterwards.

I remember in my early twenties (in the mid 1980s) considering that if the balloon went up whilst I was in Sheffield, my prospects of survivial were zilch. And that was before Threads...:-)

dose anyone have a copy of 'Threds' i could buy/have, my nan's old house was used in the making along with other memrebilia from arround that time, it would be nice to own my own copy:)
i would prefer a DvD or DivX version as i dont have a vidio player:)

:thumbsup:

oh' and just to get back to the topic
'Where are Sheffields Nuclear Shelters'

another one im not too sure is true, but i was told that there were some bunkers/shelters down by the two big gas reserves at the bottom of the ski village, close to the train lines on parkwood.
anyone else heard or know about them?

Originally posted by Nu_Skillz
dose anyone have a copy of 'Threds' i could buy/have, my nan's old house was used in the making along with other memrebilia from arround that time, it would be nice to own my own copy:)
i would prefer a DvD or DivX version as i dont have a vidio player:)

:thumbsup:

Threads is on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/-/B00004U409/all/202-7329706-3029431), going for £65 min which is just crazy.

Your pm points you to the cheapest place :thumbsup:

HI there. . .

could you PM me the "cheapest place" as well, please. . .

Cheers. . .

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There is a copy on ebay with a starting bid of a fiver!

Dionysus

I've a bunker at my house.
It's the dining room table and table cloth. I only need to slosh the whitewash on the windows and it's all up and running

Found in a press cutting from 1966:

Reported on January 14 th. 1966

"Sheffield To Have BBC Fall Out Shelter"

The B.B.C reported today that they intend to build a nuclear fall out shelter on Broadfield Road. It will be one of several that are being built through-out the country.

"We require the shelters as transmitting sites to maintain broadcasting in time of war," said Mr. Roland Fox, one of the corporations press officers.

He could not elaborate on the construction of the shelter or the equipment it would contain. It appears however that it would house medium powered broadcasting facilities to give out news and goverment instructions over a 100 mile radius.

Until recently these shelters were on the secret list, but the secrecy veil has been partially lifted.



So did the shelter ever get built? If so where and more to the point is it still there.

TOP TIP:

Use a second world war "Anderson" air raid shelter in case of a nuclear attack.

Simply blu tac some asbestos sheets to the outside. :thumbsup:

Its not rocket science is it?

Originally posted by Nu_Skillz
oh' and just to get back to the topic
'Where are Sheffields Nuclear Shelters'

another one im not too sure is true, but i was told that there were some bunkers/shelters down by the two big gas reserves at the bottom of the ski village, close to the train lines on parkwood.
anyone else heard or know about them?

When the ski slope first opened I went to have a nosy and walked round the side of the rubbish dump, on a section of hillside was a very large brick wall with openings going into the dark. If you walked along the top of the hill you could see flat patches of concrete and in one place a concrete stairwell led down. Fascinating but without a torch i wasn't going to investigate further and it was only later when some-one said it was the remains of a power station built innto the hillside. Shucks I'd been hoping to go back and find a couple of second world war tommy guns or something.

Originally posted by kookie
could have been the hole in the road. We could've all sat against the wall behind a pillow and bit of wood, such as a door or bit of bench.:)

Perhaps that's why the fish tank was there, to provide a sustainable food source, becasue I doubt we would have survived long on Thorntons miss-shapes.

a friend of mine has bought one of the council a couple years back up totley not sure location but will find out last time saw him he mentioned going to open it up as a wartime museum

Hi Nu_Skillz
i have a vhs video of "Threads" that i will more than willingly copy for you ....ill give you a shout when its when its done :)

i love that episode of only fools and horses when they are trying to get to the nuclear bunker within the '4 minute warning'. personally i wouldnt want to survive a nuclear attack so someone can have my place (please note i do not actually have a place OR a nuclear bunker).

there is also a sheltor in chapeltown go up passed the commercial pub take first left as if going on to newton chambers estate and just b4 you come to some factory gates there it is set back a bit from road on left hand side dunno who owns it tho

Originally posted by jimmy75
there is also a sheltor in chapeltown go up passed the commercial pub take first left as if going on to newton chambers estate and just b4 you come to some factory gates there it is set back a bit from road on left hand side dunno who owns it tho

I grew up in Chap and I'm sure there's one at the Warren Lane end of the Newton Chambers industrial estate. Might be a different entrance to the same bunker. I was a pupil at Lound Junior School about three decades ago, and there was a concrete platform in the middle of the playing field behind the school. We were always led to believe that it was the corked-up entrance to an air raid centre. Don't know if it's true - but I imagine it wouldn't have been built with anything nuclear in mind - probably from WWII as I believe the steelworks around Chap and Ecclesfield were targets for Luftwaffe bombers.

Originally posted by WallBuilder
When the ski slope first opened I went to have a nosy and walked round the side of the rubbish dump, on a section of hillside was a very large brick wall with openings going into the dark. If you walked along the top of the hill you could see flat patches of concrete and in one place a concrete stairwell led down. Fascinating but without a torch i wasn't going to investigate further and it was only later when some-one said it was the remains of a power station built innto the hillside. Shucks I'd been hoping to go back and find a couple of second world war tommy guns or something.
Well in this case fact was stranger than fiction. The neepsend power station was demolished early 1980s I think, and it was a truly massive building. Locals knew it as the "Black Factory". I was a bit young but some older boys had climbed into it with torches and apparently it went underground many floors deep, but was very dangerous.
There was also a huge tunnel associated with it which led off on one direction and was unlit and verry spooky. Local youths used to call it s#itten entry. I suppose it must have been an underground cable conduit, I understood it went to the five arches bridge area, although I never actually saw it.

Originally posted by pietro
The B.B.C reported today that they intend to build a nuclear fall out shelter on Broadfield Road. It will be one of several that are being built through-out the country.So did the shelter ever get built? If so where and more to the point is it still there.
Behind Heeley baths on Broadfield Road is a radio transmitter antenna which is suspended from a large chimney, I think the other end is tied to a telegraph post appx. 20 yards away. Beneath the baths is lots of holes and cellars, and you can see down there. There are two doors which look like garage doors, on to the road, if you walk past you can see that there's no floor inside at all. I have always been very curious about this but always assumed it was the old pumping station, because the baths used to use filtered water from the sheaf just across the road.

I was a pupil at Lound Junior School about three decades ago, and there was a concrete platform in the middle of the playing field behind the school. We were always led to believe that it was the corked-up entrance to an air raid centre. Don't know if its true

It is true i was at lound around 1968 and we knew about it then.
The one chillycat is referring to is some king of Y.E.B electrical installation.

Furthur to my last post (and slightly off topic) Look at this photo of pupils at Lound in fancy dress around 1968.

www.members.aol.com/syp9999/lound.html

I've mentioned this before on another thread somewhere, there was a WWII shelter beneath the grass of Meersbrook Park, and there used to be tunnels from the cellars of all the local houses, which are now all bricked up. The grass just below Meersbrook House? now council offices.
In the 70s when I used to go to my Grandma's on brook road I remember the entrance doors in the grass before they were removed. In the area now all the tunnels have subsided and brook road is in a right state with loads of cracks and holes.

Muddycoffee -
You mentioned about the Neepsend Power Station... any info regarding these tunnels or these underground levels? Or do you reckon that all went when they knocked the power station down?

ff.

Originally posted by fingerfun
Muddycoffee -
You mentioned about the Neepsend Power Station... any info regarding these tunnels or these underground levels? Or do you reckon that all went when they knocked the power station down?

ff.

The site of the old power station has been under development for years. The landscape has changed shape so much around that area that i'd be surprised if anything were still accessible.

I would, however, love to be proved wrong! Spent loads of time messing around there with my mates when I was a youngun - fascinating area for early-teen boys to explore!


Was once hanging around there and decided to jump onto the top of this metal shipping container from an adjoining wall only to be frightened off by an angry skinhead bloke with a large baseball bat and an equally angry dog who emerged from within. Eek! Didnt think anybody would be living in there! :confused:

Originally posted by fingerfun
Muddycoffee -
You mentioned about the Neepsend Power Station... any info regarding these tunnels or these underground levels? Or do you reckon that all went when they knocked the power station down? ff.
I'm sorry I don't know, as I never went myself, was a little bit too far away from my home when I was that age to go all that way and have a look, but when I was a teenager later, and was taking the dog for a walk I used to go that way and don't really remember any tunnels that I saw personally, although we are talking about a massive area, and I could have easily missed them.

...ah shame... had dusted off my headtorch :)

There were some shelters up on the moors heading into the peak district. I only this because they were sold on ebay (seriously!) with the land they stood on about a year ago and a friend was bidding on it to build a house there.
The shelter still had a working air purifcation system.

When I was younger we used to hangaround in the area where the old power station at neepsend once stood.
We did once climb into an opening on the wall when we had a close look we noticed the concrete ledge we were standing on was only suspended by some rubble and a bit of chicken wire, the drop below us was very deep and there were loads of huge pipes running down. needless to say we made a rapid exit, I understand that they filled in any remaining tunnels and openings after the incident when two men lost thier lives scrapping the cables

all of neepsend power station has been landscape over now where there used to be a big retaining wall up to railway level you can actually walk up it now as honey planet said after the incident with the two men the electric board or council filled all tunnels in

I know where they are. Just outside sheffield as you are going to barnesley. They are near ahotel/resturante that I have just forgot the name. I will remember tomorrow and tell you. This is where all the biig people will go down underground if any disaster happened.

this is hsbc main computer network centre it controls everyones accounts who are with them and there other companys goes some many floors underground its at tankseley manor straight across from pub/ hotel word has staff that work there have to sign official secrets act due to the complex secruity

Sounds like some fun urban exploring like these guys in Manchester.
http://www.urbanunderworld.co.uk/

All the Nuclear Bunkers for the Affluent Sheffield set are situated in Darwin Australia!!!

Tankersly Manor. That is where they are. Thats there the bunkers are!

Originally posted by jimmy75
there is also a sheltor in chapeltown go up passed the commercial pub take first left as if going on to newton chambers estate and just b4 you come to some factory gates there it is set back a bit from road on left hand side dunno who owns it tho

that that your onabout isnt a newclear buncker its an underground airrade which was used as a hospital during the war. my grandma has told me some fasinating storys about that place & i've been down from a few enterances.

but there is a newclear bunker in sheffield, i've heard about it before from my cousins dad, he works for the govenment. its under midland bank, where the AG Glass place is.

Theres a shelter under hartleybrook school on shiregreen .Its in the bottom yard near the dinner hall but its been sealed and bricked off.

Originally posted by davey_c
strange question - does anyone know where a nuclear bunker is in sheffield? i saw a tv show on shelters(yes i am sad for watching it) but it got me thinking sheffields a big city so where is its shelters?can anyone help?

cheers

DAVE There probably is one but its location
might be top secret so we will never know.:thumbsup:

There's one under the new(ish) court building apparently...

I used to work at the royal mail offices in pond street on the evening data imput shift, on my break i used to talk to a bloke who lived in park hill all his life, a wiered fellow but had a few interesting facts about the city. One of which was about the nuclear shelters. They are located underneath telephone house (the BT building near the fire station and go under the city to the City hall, how reliable this is i dont know. Apparently telephone house is not operated by BT at all but is a top secret government building, and apparently you will never find anyone who works there. I am inerested if anyone else had heard this.

Mind you this bloke sold druge too, think he was called duncan!

Also if someone wanted to kill as many people as possible with an attomic bomb they would drop it on sheffield as it has more people within 60 miles of it than anywhere else in the country, which is why meadowhall was built there!

Originally posted by Geordiecarl
Apparently telephone house is not operated by BT at all but is a top secret government building, and apparently you will never find anyone who works there.

Surely even top secret government buildings need people working in them?

yes but they will not be allowed to say they do!

A white van once stopped me and asked direction to it. They certainly didn't look like top-secret government employees. Unless their disguise is so good thats what they WANTED me to think... :suspect:

a plain white van?

never trust them!

Originally posted by Geordiecarl
They are located underneath telephone house (the BT building near the fire station and go under the city to the City hall, how reliable this is i dont know. Apparently telephone house is not operated by BT at all but is a top secret government building, and apparently you will never find anyone who works there. I am inerested if anyone else had heard this.


There may be something in this. The underground bunkers and tunnels in Manchester and Birmingham are looked after by BT because they run cables through them.

http://www.cybertrn.demon.co.uk/guardian/

I would imagine Sheffield to have a similar system, what with it once being the world capital for steel manufacture. Perhaps it's just been kept more secret than the others?

Originally posted by JoePritchard
I believe that only Switzerland and China had set policies for getting large numbers of civiliians in to shelters during a nuclear exchange in the cold war. The USSR had some shelters, western cities with metro systems were expected to make use of them.


In any swedish settlement you will see these signes dotted around the place

http://www.boden.se/miljo_och_byggforvaltning/bilder/skylt.jpg

indicating there is a bombshelter or general shelter in the building. In times of "crisis" all citizens will be expected to play their part in preparing shelters. These range from simple reinforced basement areas to fully equipped shelters with blast doors and air purification plants.

All swedish cities also have civil defense alarms tested on the first monday of the month at 1pm (in Malmö at least).

It's a bit of a palliative measure in the face of a global nuclear war, but this system (from the Swedish Department of 'Rescuing People') is also intended for conventional warfare.

Secret Nuclear shelters aren't very useful IMO, as no-one knows where to go when "the time comes".

Originally posted by Phanerothyme

Secret Nuclear shelters aren't very useful IMO, as no-one knows where to go when "the time comes".

I don't think there was any provision of shelters for the "great unwashed".

The "secret" bunkers are/were for those at the top of government, armed, emergency & support services.

But, as a former fire chief said to me "if they think that I'm going to go in there and leave my family behind; they have another thing coming!"

How's about this (http://homepages.wmich.edu/~a3cranda/Useless%20Knowledge%20Pages/Road%20Signs/Secret%20Nuclear%20Bunker.jpg) for a well hidden bunker?

Originally posted by alchresearch
How's about this (http://homepages.wmich.edu/~a3cranda/Useless%20Knowledge%20Pages/Road%20Signs/Secret%20Nuclear%20Bunker.jpg) for a well hidden bunker? There's one of those somewhere between Stoke and Wales, too!

There's a similar sign in Nantwich (or Middlewich). Could be that one.

try this www.secretbunker.co.uk

Originally posted by alchresearch
There's a similar sign in Nantwich (or Middlewich). Could be that one.
Yes, that's the one! It's a cold war museum now, I think.

Originally posted by Geordiecarl
I used to work at the royal mail offices in pond street on the evening data imput shift, on my break i used to talk to a bloke who lived in park hill all his life, a wiered fellow but had a few interesting facts about the city. One of which was about the nuclear shelters. They are located underneath telephone house (the BT building near the fire station and go under the city to the City hall, how reliable this is i dont know. Apparently telephone house is not operated by BT at all but is a top secret government building, and apparently you will never find anyone who works there. I am inerested if anyone else had heard this.

Mind you this bloke sold druge too, think he was called duncan!

I work there. All my friends work there. Dont believe everything from drug selling men called Duncan.

Theres one under the town hall in the Centre... r at least there was!

Nice little 'bunker' in Conisbrough :

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/sites/c/conisbrough/index.html

There are some hellish dodgy things underneath Moorfoot building, giant entrance to the rear big enough for huge miliatary vehicles, followed by huge tunnels heading underground with signs warning of those little tractor type things you get at airports, really big and wide access. Also the whole building is designed so if a bomb hits it or anything only one third of it would fall at a time. The place always confused me, and there is the weird concrete type building nearby that has no entrances or windows and is surrounded by barbed wire, that I am sure is connected in someway. Anyone else know more on these

Originally posted by bonny
apparently there is one under the Moorfoot building for the civil servants.

Just about every civil service building has an old nuclear bunker underneath it.

That’s just what you want when you miraculously immerge from behind your homemade (dinning room door) shelter, is a disproportionate number of bureaucrats to general population, although I think we already have that!

I think from these comments we can say that all of sheffield could be an underground bunker!

There's no nuclear shelter or anything under Moorfoot except a load of concrete! The big entrance to the rear (:P ) is merely the entrance to the car park, though you do get military sized vehicles going in, in the shape of 4x4s (only later to have their bumpers and roofs scratched trying to negotiate the tight ramps).

It is designed in a 'modular' fashion (there are expandable sections of wall and floor within the building, something to do with concrete & safety), but the bomb theory is only one of many. Another has it that it was designed by the same person who made the pentagon. Or that it is hexagonal to emulate 'bees' and 'hives' (there's a joke in that...). But the most sensible theory is that it is designed like that simply to maximise the light getting into the offices.

The only dodgy thing under there is someone having an illicit extra long tea break.

The concrete place nearby is an enormous electricity substation.

Originally posted by davey_c
hey thanks every1 i got my answer to my question - a mate o mine reackons high stors skools got a bunker under the playin field - any one confirm that? sheffields tunnels seem really interesting anyone know a way in?


I can confirm this. During history we had to do an assignment on the tunnels and was taught about the ones that run under the field.

Originally posted by davey_c
Thanks for the link to the tunnels site - thats really cool - i always knew sheffield was much more intersting than it looked - about those tunnels an old teacher of mine used to live in an old monestry somewhere in sheffield and she always sed there was a tunnel going from her house to manor castle and sheffield castle - does anyone know if people managed to get in to the tunnels?

DAVE

manor house you mean, there isnt a manor castle. :P

this is hsbc main computer network centre it controls everyones accounts who are with them and there other companys goes some many floors underground its at tankseley manor straight across from pub/ hotel word has staff that work there have to sign official secrets act due to the complex secruity

The HSBC computer complex at Tankersley is an ICEBERG, 85% of it is underground. Just look at it and you cannot fail to miss the massive air intake pipes. A few years ago there was a triple electric fence around it and every morning you could see armed MOD Police going around clearing up the dead rabbits etc. This, in the 70s & 80s, was the Northern Command Headquarters in the event of the nuclear war taking off.

I have, over the past 20 years, known several people who have worked there and, so far, none of them have ever denied that this place is any other than what I know it to be. Indeed, there have been a fair few who have confirmed it & f*** the OSA.

I actually mentioned all this to a (very senior) police officer in the Division that covers that particular plot, in the mid 1980s. He was a good mate, and a close drinking buddy, and when I asked him about it he looked me straight in the eye and told me that I should drop the subject forthwith and, if I failed to comply, he would have no other option than to place me under arrest even though I had not actually signed the Official Secrets Act. :gag:

I know where they are. Just outside sheffield as you are going to barnesley. They are near ahotel/resturante that I have just forgot the name. I will remember tomorrow and tell you. This is where all the biig people will go down underground if any disaster happened.

Can you let me know where it is, cos I am a big lad :P

dose anyone have a copy of 'Threds' i could buy/have, my nan's old house was used in the making along with other memrebilia from arround that time, it would be nice to own my own copy:)
i would prefer a DvD or DivX version as i dont have a vidio player:)

:thumbsup:
hello.
IT is on sale again, i think from dvd.com at £10.99 for dvd
or
play.com for the same price.
if not i could send you a copy. free
pm. me and we can exchange addresses. just cost you postage.

juliediane

sorry, pressed by mistake

THREADS Ccan be bought from play.com for £9.99
it is not a club where you must buy a set number of dvd's.

Threads is on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/-/B00004U409/all/202-7329706-3029431), going for £65 min which is just crazy.

Your pm points you to the cheapest place :thumbsup:

play.com for £9.99

HI there. . .

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try play.com for only £9.99 for a dvd

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try play.com for only £9.99 for a dvd

juliediane

You seem to be struggling with the buttons today :P

In the late 50's I worked at The Blood Transfusion Service and we were giiven a lecture by Dr Bowley the head of the Service about what were to do in case of nuclear war. We were told to make our way to Rampton Hostpital as we would be needed there. How we were to do this was not explained and we were all working in Sheffield at the time.

hazel

In the late 50's I worked at The Blood Transfusion Service and we were giiven a lecture by Dr Bowley the head of the Service about what were to do in case of nuclear war. We were told to make our way to Rampton Hostpital as we would be needed there. How we were to do this was not explained and we were all working in Sheffield at the time.

hazel

Perhaps they just wanted to keep the numbers up Hazel. :P

You weren't the only one with that idea, it had occured to us!!!. :)

hazel