Any of you out there lived on the Lowedges in the 60's and 70's. Did you frequent the Grennel Mower, Magpie, Bradway Hotel, White Hart etc. Did you go to the youth club at the church on the second shops and later the new youth club ran by a guy called John Fair? Do the names Gus, Haggis, Az, Big Willie, Maltby, Ruddy, Rare'un ring a bell???

not me personally as I wasn't born but I know someone who recognises those names...

Why you ask??

Just wondered what happened to some of the old guys and gals who are probably about the same age as myself (53). I went to Bradway Primary School, later Jordanthorpe and left in 69. I used to drink in the Grennel Mower, Magpie and White Hart, although I left Sheffield in 1977.

Hi Johnh
I used to live at Lowedges in the late 60's.I drank very often in the pubs you mentioned.
I can Az and Haggis, we were good buddies, there was also Dave Ladeler, Chris Morton,Phil Howard, Geoff Bruce and Dave O'Brien. Have lost track of all them now, but if you know wherebout of any mentioned please let me know. cheers matey.

i think there is a bloke called gus that still lives on lowedges.he still drinks in the magpie.think he is in his late 40s early 50s.i used to live on toppham road so my dad was a regular at the magpie.wasnt until the middle 70s tho that we moved up to the estate.i know the fletchers used to run the the pub.cant remember if it was late 70s or early 80s tho

i think there is a bloke called gus that still lives on lowedges.he still drinks in the magpie.think he is in his late 40s early 50s.i used to live on toppham road so my dad was a regular at the magpie.wasnt until the middle 70s tho that we moved up to the estate.i know the fletchers used to run the the pub.cant remember if it was late 70s or early 80s tho

Gus is now a pathetic elderly bloke who was always a bully when he was backed up by a gang of 10 but couldn't ever punch his way out of a wet paper bag when he was on his own.

As for these stupid stories that the fletchers (or the hansons or the maltbys) RAN anything on lowedges, well the only thing that I can say is that none of these arsehole families ever ran or dictated anything on the estate.The whole say so, as to what was allowed to happen on the estate, was firmly in the hands of someone who would not have even turned a head, such was his anonimity.

hi hagardriley

you obviously did'nt know the ogdens then, especially one called jimmy/ he was areally good bloke but if you wronged him you certainly new about it.

hi hagardriley

you obviously did'nt know the ogdens then, especially one called jimmy/ he was areally good bloke but if you wronged him you certainly new about it.

Wrong about that one mate, I knew the Ogdens, Alan Ogden in particular. He lived with a very good friend of mine about 20 years ago and was really good with his fists, as she found out to her cost on several occasions. :nono:

That particular scenario was brought to a close when he was given a good bashing one dark evening by an anonymous assailant who told him it had happened for the last time and that it was better to leave while he still had the ability to walk. He left a week later when he came out of the hospital.

Who was the mystery assailant?

Nobody was ever charged and I could not possibly comment or speculate on the matter. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Really hard those Ogdens!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFPMSL :wink:

I Stand corrected then matey, just shows you that you can't tell a book by its cover.

I never thought Jimmy would turn out to be a woman basher.

Cheers for that info matey.

Jaunyone.....Dave O'Brien/Jordanthorpe School?
If 'your' D O'B is mid-fifties now, I was in the same class as him until I left in '67/68....
Nice kid : very fast on his feet (!) - always beat me in the ol' 100 yard sprint on sports day....good footballer, too....

I went into the Magpie in 1979.
The sight of one bloke hitting another around the back of the noggin with a pool cue because he won the game added a certain....element of terror to the pint I was drinking.

Thanks for the warning seeing as thats my local! lol

Hi Riffraff

Thanks for the reply to my thread about Dave O'Brien. It would be the same one, he also had a brother called Pat.

The last I hered of him was back in the 70's when he decided to go and work in Austrailia, just after marrying a gairl called Val.
I just wondeered if you knew where he was know.

I also remember a guy who hung around with us in the magpie called, Chris Morton.......

Cheers matey

Jauntyone....
Nah...admit I haven't seen D O'B (or any of 'em for that matter) since the day I left school in '67/8....
Other classmates at the time were Max Clarke, Ian Bott, John Coupe, Paul Gregory, Martin Havenhand, Ian Corker, Ray Ashcroft, the Fox twins...I'm sure others'll come to me....oh...Max Brook has just occured to me...others to follow....

There you go! Pete Cowan as well.....

Hi Riffraff

I also remember a guy who hung around with us in the magpie called, Chris Morton.......

Cheers matey

I believe that Chris married a girl called Vivienne and lived on Gervase (Avenue?) near Greenhill Parkway in the early 1980s. He moved to either Batemoor or Jordanthorpe in the mid 1980s.

If I remember correctly, he had the 'Mortons Scissors' shop near the dole office on West Street in those days.

Hi Johnh
I used to live at Lowedges in the late 60's.I drank very often in the pubs you mentioned.
I can Az and Haggis, we were good buddies, there was also Dave Ladeler, Chris Morton,Phil Howard, Geoff Bruce and Dave O'Brien. Have lost track of all them now, but if you know wherebout of any mentioned please let me know. cheers matey.

I think Haggis is still around Low Edges, or at least he was the last time I saw him about 2 years ago. His sister lives at the top of Gresley Rd, near the bus terminus. I think she may work in the chippy.

He spawned the Son of Satan when his lad was born. B*****d was always in and out of the nick from being a teenager and finally ended up doing a 10 stretch for battering an old lady about the head with a chair leg, just because she woke up while he was burgling her flat. :nono:

I understand that it has been made clear that he will not be welcome, or safe, should he return to the area when he comes out. :wink:

Jauntyone....
Trevor Caswell and David Higginbotham too....
Your story about Haggis ranh a bell too : kid called Harris in my year at school, but don't think in my class....(if you see what I mean!)

Thanks Hagar for the info on Chris Morton, will have to check him out one day. He was a reallygood friend, we joined the TA along with Phill Howard, Geoff Bruce, such happy days.

Cheers Mate

Thanks once again riffraff for your info,

cheers matey

hi to all who posted re lowedges, i lived on low edges drive from 1954 to 1968,
lived opposite jim & alan ogden, always got on with jim, always wary of alan.
im assuming that the gus you talk about was gus tomkins, at school his brother steve was a big hitter, he joined the army and rumour has it he did well. dave o'brian was one of my best mates for over 15 years along with phil & bob wragg, the dakin brothers, brian & linda blades, pat pinder, steve austin & ken bratby, all of us livedon the drive or low edges cresent, there were loads of us from of the estate that congregated on the maggy wall or the shops, mick brown, billy ash, haggis (patrick atkinson) ossie, spud (steve rose) alan roberts, robbo, mick, steve & roy mullins, mick irvine, and many more, could fill abook with the names, we all drank in maggy, norton hotel,
white swan and hart, be interesting if any of the names out of this list are on this site, if you want any more info let me know

phailig

Hi phailig

Yep I remember Jim Ogden and Alan, used to knock around with Jimmy O. As you said,Jimmy was a good bloke but Alan so different.

I remember Bob Wragg, we used to call him Bert. Haggis, Well I knew him but never trusted him, just something about him.

We used to all meet up in the Maggie on a Sunday evening, from there we used to go to the Norton and quite often on to the Greyhound in Dronfield.
We also used to go to Coal Aston, cross Daggers, and a few other pubs there.

Do you remember Buggsie, (Graham) can't for life ofme think of his surname.
There was also az, Dave Ladler, Phil Howard, & Geoff Bruce.

Dave O'Brian was also a very good friend of mine,I used to work with him at a place called Stephenson Blakes. I knew his girl friend, Val, now his wife,such a lovely girl. Dave also had a brother called, Pat.

Cant'nt think of anymore.

Cheers for the info

jauntyone.

hi jauntyone

yes i remember buggsy if i remember right his surname was mullryan, i dont remember az or chris morton, but i remember loads of the old crowd who used to go to school at bradway county, jordanthorpe and rowlinson, there were also plenty of girls that used to be around the maggy, mary jackson, rea stockdale (recently been in a bit of trouble) anne barrow, sue ogden, dave o'briens mrs val, joyce peat, carol knowles and barbara white (both from woodseats, strange i can remember the lads names but not so many of the girls, some more lads, kenny cox, jim polfryman, mick, terry and phil hempshall, keith cooper, mick brown, dave hill, ronnie & dennis hill, they lived in maisonette opposit maggy and mick hotchin, we all spent hours around the pub, i even finished up in the maggy on my wedding night. if i can remember any more names i will put them on here,

see ya later

phailig

Hi phailig
Do you remember Buggsie, (Graham) can't for life ofme think of his surname.
There was also az, Dave Ladler, Phil Howard, & Geoff Bruce.
Cheers for the info

jauntyone.

Was az actually Harold Lawrence, who went on to marry a girl called Barbara and lived next to the Shop-on-End at the end of Low Edges Road, in the 1980s?

Phailig...
You mention Kenny Cox - I remember him from my school days at J'thorpe.
Didn't the poor lad die all of a sudden, from an unknown heart problem?
Seem to recall that he died on the soccer pitch? Brilliant footballer, and a really nice kid from memory.
Long time ago now - late 60's?
Don't think he made it past his early 20's...
All read in your post about dave O'Brien, a classmate of mine all though from 62/63....Read in another post that he's emigrated to Aussie......correct, or is he back? Any idea?

hi phailig

thanks for buggies other name, being trying to remember it for ages.

do you know if he's still living on lowedges???

I seem to remember some of the names of people who went in the maggie, but its that long ago can't recolect faces.

cheers matey for info

Hi Riffraff

I Can remember that Dave O'brien got married to Val, then he went to Austrailia to work. I don't know if he ever returned to the UK.

Would be nice to know, especially if I could contact him as we were really good mates.

I still have a photo of Dave and myself which was taken in a night club we used to frequent many moons ago...

cheers for info riffraff

hi riffraff
yes kenny cox did die young in 1970, he was playing football for the swan athletic (white swan in greenhill village) his mum went to wake him for work the next morning and found he had died during the night, yes he was a nice lad and a fantastic footballer we used to play on sunday all day in lowedges park near the toilets had some great games, to be honest i didnt know of dave going to oz but he does still live in sheffield, his brother in law works in harveys furniture store on the drakehouse, hes married to daves elder sister bev.

hi jauntyone

i dont know if buggsy is still around sheffield, i dont know dave o'biens addybut next time i go onto drakehouse i will see if i can get itfrom his brothe r in law

see you later
phailig

hi phailig

thanks for replying, to the question about dave o addy, and letting me know about buggsy. it is well appreciated.

cheers matey

jauntyone

Hi Phailig, Billy Ash is my cousin, and went on to marry a Scottish girl, and move to London to be a chef in the Post Office Tower resturant (if that is the one that slowly turned round). He now lives in Kettering, where he is still a chef. His mum, Anne, still lives on the maisonettes behind the shops. Just an update for you.

hello glitterbug

yes billy did marry a scots lass, he worked for BT in sheffield then moved to kettering to work for bt as sir ian vallance (BT chairman) as his personnel chef last time i saw billy was in kettering at the george hotel where he worked on a wednesday night, standing in for the chef. that was in 1989, i worked for bt then and we were on a course at the george, havnt seen or heard from him since then.

phailig

I was a bridesmaid at his wedding, i think it was at St Andrews. He has 2 grown up sons now and is a grandad too. Think he is still at the George. I am from Lowedges too but younger than Billy, i lived across from the Magpie, the Allen family.

Any of you out there lived on the Lowedges in the 60's and 70's. Did you frequent the Grennel Mower, Magpie, Bradway Hotel, White Hart etc. Did you go to the youth club at the church on the second shops and later the new youth club ran by a guy called John Fair? Do the names Gus, Haggis, Az, Big Willie, Maltby, Ruddy, Rare'un ring a bell???
Yes i remember Lowedges, watched it being built, had a drive on the huge bulldozers, i was only about 4/5 at the time, then went to the dance on a Friday on Reney Ave. as a teenager, later when married worked at the Grennal Mower, hated it, but it help pay for our new home in 1973.

I am from a slightly later Lowedges - we were on the Drive from 58 - 64 but I was only a babs. We moved to Lupton Road and I stayed there until I got married (at St Petes on the rainiest day ever!) The people who lived around us were, Gary Leavewood, The Thompsons , a whole tribe of them but I particularly remebered Jeannie, The Dickinsons, Michael Jaqueline and David, The Oxleys another tribe, Adrian, David Barry and several others. The Taylors, Karen Booth and The Copelands. There was also Cheryl Bane? Paul Reaney used to live quite close too. Oh and the Collins's - have heard Jonny Collins died recently, commiserations to the family.

my grandad charles burnand & nan peggy lived at 104 atlantic rd,lowedges they had 7kids,all daughters bar a son called derek,do you or any 1 remember this family?

i was born on lowedges (in a house) lived there for 30 odd years. we used to hang around on the termo singing songs, throwing water bombs at buses. loads of us used to meet up there every night and fill the bus shelter.(1980 ish) every body now "madness, madness they call it madness.... nurse! nurse! get me the sedatives. left the area now, but still drive through from time to time. biggs was the daddy. too many names to mention. we are the L.R.A LOWEDGES REPUBLICAN ARMY, WERE BARMY WHERE EVER WE GO. CUS WERE THE L.R.A. (bit sad really) i'll get me coat!!

Hi, I lived on lowedges from 1954 till i got married in 1975 my mum still lives on Lupton Road I remember most of the people mentioned my best mate was Jane cooper and still is! Those were the days..

Realised a mstake on one of my earlier posts - I mentioned the Fox twins, Peter and John...
Don't know where that came from! - They were actually the Fowler twins, but at least I got their Christian names right!

Hi WASSY,I lived on lupton road from 1956 to 1985 till I got married .Guess who !

yes i did who are you

Hi WASSY,its Andrew .....Jane's brother . Have'nt seen you for ages hope you are all ok.Ill look out for you next time I am in asda.

i think there is a bloke called gus that still lives on lowedges.he still drinks in the magpie.think he is in his late 40s early 50s.i used to live on toppham road so my dad was a regular at the magpie.wasnt until the middle 70s tho that we moved up to the estate.i know the fletchers used to run the the pub.cant remember if it was late 70s or early 80s tho
Gus was and is a ******, I know his ex wife and I know his son (who is nothing like his dad), does anyone remember Mick Faxon he was a regular in the 70/80's big drinker (but tetotal now I hear) and Grahame and doreen and Brenda (micks wife at the time)

Jauntyone....
Nah...admit I haven't seen D O'B (or any of 'em for that matter) since the day I left school in '67/8....
Other classmates at the time were Max Clarke, Ian Bott, John Coupe, Paul Gregory, Martin Havenhand, Ian Corker, Ray Ashcroft, the Fox twins...I'm sure others'll come to me....oh...Max Brook has just occured to me...others to follow....

Ian Corker here. I have been in contact with Trevor Casswell. Does any one know what happened to Chris Barrett?

If you look on friends reunited there are some former classmates there. I am thinking about documenting what happened to us all. I know that Martin Havenhand became a Chief Executive with Yorkshire Forward, Peter Cowen is a golf pro in Rotherham and Dubai.

I really doubt that most of us could have done as well if we had been born 30 years later. Look at UpMyStreet for Lowedges

It is really depressing.

Best wishes

Ian

Ian Corker here. I have been in contact with Trevor Casswell. Does any one know what happened to Chris Barrett?

If you look on friends reunited there are some former classmates there. I am thinking about documenting what happened to us all. I know that Martin Havenhand became a Chief Executive with Yorkshire Forward, Peter Cowen is a golf pro in Rotherham and Dubai.

I really doubt that most of us could have done as well if we had been born 30 years later. Look at UpMyStreet for Lowedges

It is really depressing.

Best wishes

Ian

Morning Ian...
Think Chris went back down south to pursue a career in art/design...
It's all a long time ago though, so who knows what he eventually got up to (or where!).
I know one of our classmates (for the life of me I can't remember his name) was featured in The Star many years ago, 'cos he'd become a top chef and was the big boy at some reallly posh 5* hotel in Hong Kong.
The Fox twins I mentioned? A senior moment! Actually the Fowlers, Peter and John....
Saw Max Brook in Uncle Sam's on Ecclesall Road many years ago, but nobody else for 20 years plus...
Didn't know about Martin....so one of us made something of themselves, then!

Thanks RiffRaff,

Ian

Iancorker@gmail.com

Ian...
What's Trev Casswell up to?
Last time I saw him he'd just bought a (I think) Vespa scooter!
And how many years must that be?!
30+ I guess....

In fact, Ian, the last time I recall seeing YOU....
In your front room - we'd had a bit of a party, and your Mum walked in, looking a bit disgusted with us....
Think I stopped overnight.....probably a good idea!

Can you send me an email to iancorker@gmail.com

Hi Just come across this site and saw my name mentioned - I lived on Toppham Way when you could see the Peak District from our living room window before the estate became as large as it is now. Remmber loads of guys and girls mentioned but would love to know where my old mate Phil Pywell (might be spelt wrong) or Kieth Grant are now.

Hi Just come across this site and saw my name mentioned - I lived on Toppham Way when you could see the Peak District from our living room window before the estate became as large as it is now. Remmber loads of guys and girls mentioned but would love to know where my old mate Phil Pywell (might be spelt wrong) or Kieth Grant are now.

Would this be Keith Grant who lived on Gervase Avenue, his father Sid worked at Express Dairies on Broadfield Road and brother Dave went on to play left back for the owls? If so, he went on to become an asphalt roofing contractor with his own business and is still working in the trade.

Thats the guy. We both worked as van lads for the S&E out of the Millhouses depot and left to become apprentice ashpalters with Amalgamated Asphalting Company before I left to join the army - I also remember David and watched him play for the owls - Have you any contact details for Kieth as we spent our early teen years together -got ****** most nights in the Norton when it was a proper pub and escaped being picked up by the cops (we were only 15 when we started) but got checked out three times for our ages when over 18Great days.

Hi
We lived and my mum still does live on Toppham Way and I have a photo of me and a load of other kids standing on a heap of sand just as they were laying the foundations to the Magpie. Remember playing in fields in front of our house before the road was finished, the massionettes, the church, the school and the shops built. Have loads of fond memories of Lowedges when it was a brand new and friendly estate. We visit my mum regularly and find it now to be a run down dirty place. Remember fondly the family who lived next door to us 'The Smiths' Roger, Ralph and Susan in particular and their mum who was a fantastic friendly and loving lady who made everyone welcome. Ralph spent his younger days kicking **** out of me - I think they call it bullying now. But inspite of that we all got on well

Thats the guy. We both worked as van lads for the S&E out of the Millhouses depot and left to become apprentice ashpalters with Amalgamated Asphalting Company before I left to join the army - I also remember David and watched him play for the owls - Have you any contact details for Kieth as we spent our early teen years together -got ****** most nights in the Norton when it was a proper pub and escaped being picked up by the cops (we were only 15 when we started) but got checked out three times for our ages when over 18Great days.

The last that I saw Keith he was living in the Dronfield area but I'm not sure if he is still there. I will attempt to find out more and will PM you if I do.

Keiths dad Sid and brother Dave still drink in the White Swan at Greenhill so I presume that Keith does also. Unfortunately, I don't go in there anymore but I have had many a good evening in there with the three of them in the past.

Any of you out there lived on the Lowedges in the 60's and 70's. Did you frequent the Grennel Mower, Magpie, Bradway Hotel, White Hart etc. Did you go to the youth club at the church on the second shops and later the new youth club ran by a guy called John Fair? Do the names Gus, Haggis, Az, Big Willie, Maltby, Ruddy, Rare'un ring a bell???

Just Stummbled on this site. Gus Still Goes In The Magpie, Every Sunday Afternoon, Haggis(Pat) Moved Away To Brid I Belive.
Az(Harold) is Still About, Woodseats Club Regular(The Dale).
Hope This Helps.:hihi:

Gus is now a pathetic elderly bloke who was always a bully when he was backed up by a gang of 10 but couldn't ever punch his way out of a wet paper bag when he was on his own.

As for these stupid stories that the fletchers (or the hansons or the maltbys) RAN anything on lowedges, well the only thing that I can say is that none of these arsehole families ever ran or dictated anything on the estate.The whole say so, as to what was allowed to happen on the estate, was firmly in the hands of someone who would not have even turned a head, such was his anonimity.

You Cant Know Ansons That Well As You Cant Even Spel It!!!!
And Your Name Is?
Lets see If The Big Man Can Back Up The Gob Eh?
Whats Your Name?

i was brought up on lowedges in the 70s, moved off when i was 18, recently moved back on to the estate, but some of the names are familiar, can anyone remember darren jeffcock. and the whymans

i was brought up on lowedges in the 70s, moved off when i was 18, recently moved back on to the estate, but some of the names are familiar, can anyone remember darren jeffcock. and the whymans

Thats a name i have'nt heard for a while!!! yes darren was a good friend of mine. Sadley missed xxxx:(

was a good mate of mine 2, used to come to my place alot, was really bad that day he died

was a good mate of mine 2, used to come to my place alot, was really bad that day he died

WELL TO BE HONEST I HAD TO CUT AWAY FROM THAT CROWD SOME 6MTH BEFORD HE DIED BECAUSE I WENT CLEAN....AND HAVE BEEN NOW FOR 12YRS ISH!!!, GOT A DECENT G/F, 2 KIDS, 1 ON WAY....AND IM SURE I WOULDNT HAVE HAD ALL THAT IF I STAYED ON THAT ROAD.......
SO WHEN EVER YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY" ONCE A USER, ALWAYS A USER"
YOU CAN TELL THEM THAT AINT TRUE AND KICK THERE A*SE FOR ME:hihi:

i DO THINK OF JEFF OFTEN THOUGH

glad to hear you are clean and have been clean for 12 years, and you have settle down, so many of my mates when down that road too,but i was lucky met a older guy ( old school mate of darrens) and settled down with him and moved off the estate. darren was 6 years then me, but i looked up to him, so did alot of people, when you get hooked on to sumthing, people do say that you neva get clean, but you are the truth that you can, and so is my brother he was addicted to heroin, lost his kids due to neglect and being addicted couldnt give a ****e what was happening around him, but he has been clean now for 4 years. so carry on and keep on proving people wrong. hold your head high love x

glad to hear you are clean and have been clean for 12 years, and you have settle down, so many of my mates when down that road too,but i was lucky met a older guy ( old school mate of darrens) and settled down with him and moved off the estate. darren was 6 years then me, but i looked up to him, so did alot of people, when you get hooked on to sumthing, people do say that you neva get clean, but you are the truth that you can, and so is my brother he was addicted to heroin, lost his kids due to neglect and being addicted couldnt give a ****e what was happening around him, but he has been clean now for 4 years. so carry on and keep on proving people wrong. hold your head high love x

AND WOULD YOUR BROTHER BE CALLED RICHARD BY ANY CHANCE??

Got Ya Now Ant I?
The More I Read That Last Msg The More Im Convinced Its Who I Think It Is

I'll Let Ya Guess A Bit
Lol

yes i have got a brother called richard, but he wasnt the one i was talking about, being on heroin, i was on about my step brother (dads side), dont want people to think the wrong thing.so do you know who im now. did you live on atlantic road by any chance

i was brought up on lowedges in the 70s, moved off when i was 18, recently moved back on to the estate, but some of the names are familiar, can anyone remember darren jeffcock. and the whymans

Do you mean John Wyhman?

Hi,
I lived on Lowedges Road during the 60's and 70's. I know most of the people you mention, did the Gus you mentioned have a brother called Herman? I used to knock about at the Grennel Mower end of the estate with the Irvins (worm and podge), a guy called Bernie, Chris Brookes, Ian Handley, Ian Hudson (my cousin) to name but a few. Does anyone else know this crowd?

. Remember fondly the family who lived next door to us 'The Smiths' Roger, Ralph and Susan in particular and their mum who was a fantastic friendly and loving lady who made everyone welcome. Ralph spent his younger days kicking **** out of me - I think they call it bullying now. But inspite of that we all got on well

My step-family have 2 of those names, but not one! Don't think they ever lived on Toppham though. Lupton when I was introduced to them in late 80s.

EDIT: i've just asked my step-dad and says it wasn't him lol

I believe that Chris married a girl called Vivienne and lived on Gervase (Avenue?) near Greenhill Parkway in the early 1980s. He moved to either Batemoor or Jordanthorpe in the mid 1980s.

If I remember correctly, he had the 'Mortons Scissors' shop near the dole office on West Street in those days.

tony morton married viv ,lived on lowedges,batemoor, and now now lives at chapel st leonards, was with him and his brother pete last weekend..

Is that Tony Morton got a brothe callled Philip?

Is that Tony Morton got a brothe callled Philip?

thats right. thier mum still lives on lowedges , saw phil in berni not long ago

Lol. Went to school with Phil, he was sas he remembers me being the first person he met on the first day at school. How is he I haven't seen him for years!

Sorry about that last message I'll try typing properly now Lol. I went to school with Phil and he always says I was the first person he met on starting school. How is he these days I haven't seen him for years!

Anyone know were any of the Rogers who lived at 44 Toppham Way in the early 60s are now

Sorry about that last message I'll try typing properly now Lol. I went to school with Phil and he always says I was the first person he met on starting school. How is he these days I haven't seen him for years!

phils ok really settled now

Hi,
I lived on Lowedges Road during the 60's and 70's. I know most of the people you mention, did the Gus you mentioned have a brother called Herman? I used to knock about at the Grennel Mower end of the estate with the Irvins (worm and podge), a guy called Bernie, Chris Brookes, Ian Handley, Ian Hudson (my cousin) to name but a few. Does anyone else know this crowd?

My best mates daughter used to hang out with Paul (podge) Irvins 2nieces (twins) who lived on Gresley Road back in the early 1990s. I think their dad was called Don, would he have been 'worm?

I remember them relating a story about how, one Sunday, podge was visiting his mother, who also lived on Gresley Road, and notices that she has had her house re-decorated throughout. Looking very nice Mum says he, but it must have cost a mint to have it all done at once. Oh no she replies, I bought all the materials and a chap who goes in the Grennel Mower did the job for me for £100, cash in hand, and it took him a full week. Podge duly enquires as to who the individual could be that could afford to do all that work, and do such a good job, for so small a sum for a weeks work and Mrs. Irvin duly obliges with the nice mans name.

The following day the chap in question, none other than Alan Ogden (RIP), gets a knock from a couple of blokes who introduce themselves as fraud investigators from the DHSS, one of which was Podge Irvin. I've come to ask you about the undeclared work that you've been doing says podge, to which Alan replies no idea what you're on about. Podge then explains the circumstances about it being his mothers house that Alan had decorated and proceeds to have him nicked, prosecuted and his benefits claim thrown out. :shakes:

Alan was wrong to have done what he did but I think under the circumstances Podge Irvin could have turned a blind eye especially as it involved his own mother, who was also culpable for employing Alan in the first place. Needless to say, old Mrs. Irvin never appeared before the magistrates for her part in the whole episode. I actually corroborated all this with Alan Ogden, it was before we had a falling out, and he confirmed it to be true.

None of this came as a major surprise to me as Podge Irvine was a nasty, snidey, horrible piece of work when he was a teenager and seemed to have landed in the right sort of job for someone of his disposition. :evil::twisted::sad:

Hi, no worm was Steve Irvin not Don. A sorry story you relate that much is true but I have to disagree the Podge Irvin Iknew wasn't all the things you say. I never found him to be a nasty, snidey, horrible piece of workand NO before you ask I didn't go out with him he was just a mate.

Hi, no worm was Steve Irvin not Don. A sorry story you relate that much is true but I have to disagree the Podge Irvin Iknew wasn't all the things you say. I never found him to be a nasty, snidey, horrible piece of workand NO before you ask I didn't go out with him he was just a mate.

I take your point. Take people as you find them and treat them accordingly. It was that way for me with Alan Ogden. We were mates until he started living with a very good friend of mine and eventually started using his fists on her and ended up one day with a knife at her throat threatening to kill her. He left shortly after (see an earlier thread) and never bothered her again, but I had lost all respect and patience for him by that time and we never spoke after that. :sad:

Any of you out there lived on the Lowedges in the 60's and 70's. Did you frequent the Grennel Mower, Magpie, Bradway Hotel, White Hart etc. Did you go to the youth club at the church on the second shops and later the new youth club ran by a guy called John Fair? Do the names Gus, Haggis, Az, Big Willie, Maltby, Ruddy, Rare'un ring a bell???

Yes to all the above. you are obiously a few years older than me judging by the names mentioned. you probably know my brother Josh. he still goes in most of them places.

I Stand corrected then matey, just shows you that you can't tell a book by its cover.

I never thought Jimmy would turn out to be a woman basher.

Cheers for that info matey.

Jimmy wasn't a woman basher and you are right, Jimmy was a good bloke. Like any one else if you wronged him he stood his ground.

my grandad charles burnand & nan peggy lived at 104 atlantic rd,lowedges they had 7kids,all daughters bar a son called derek,do you or any 1 remember this family?

I remember Derek, always seemed to be in same classes at school. Knocked about with him for a short while. When I heard that he had died, I was told he had commited suicide, is that the case?

My hub is off Lowedges, his family are still there, he used to be a mate of the Anson's but he was later than when you're mentioning, he was born in 71. When we visit his family, they're all stills tood outside Maggie, nowt changes!

Any of you out there lived on the Lowedges in the 60's and 70's. Did you frequent the Grennel Mower, Magpie, Bradway Hotel, White Hart etc. Did you go to the youth club at the church on the second shops and later the new youth club ran by a guy called John Fair? Do the names Gus, Haggis, Az, Big Willie, Maltby, Ruddy, Rare'un ring a bell???
my husband is still friends with haz and knew most of the other names

Hi Johnh
I used to live at Lowedges in the late 60's.I drank very often in the pubs you mentioned.
I can Az and Haggis, we were good buddies, there was also Dave Ladeler, Chris Morton,Phil Howard, Geoff Bruce and Dave O'Brien. Have lost track of all them now, but if you know wherebout of any mentioned please let me know. cheers matey.
Hi jauntyone my husband is Dave Laidler he remembers everyone you mentioned
he is still friends with haz and sees him from time to time. he also saw Jimmy Ogden last week not seen him for yrs.

Does anyone remember David and Peter Salvin.
Must be from the sixties.

my grandad charles burnand & nan peggy lived at 104 atlantic rd,lowedges they had 7kids,all daughters bar a son called derek,do you or any 1 remember this family?

Yeah, I remember the Burnand family, god that takes me back !!

thats right. thier mum still lives on lowedges , saw phil in berni not long ago

Is Mrs Morton still in the same house?

Hi to everyone who posted. I have lived o Lowedges for most of my life and know just about everyone mentioned plus a few more. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned John Brear (RIP) He was a good bloke. Ozzie doesn't seem to have had a mention either.

Hi to everyone who posted. I have lived o Lowedges for most of my life and know just about everyone mentioned plus a few more. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned John Brear (RIP) He was a good bloke. Ozzie doesn't seem to have had a mention either.

used to know john brear , haggiss ,and most people on lowedges .

I probably know you too

i moved from 328 gervaise ave when i was around 7 years old my father is called peter richardson & he used to virtually live at the white hart pub, he also parked the blue c,r,pursehouse lorry that he drove in the small layby opposite the maisonette block by the main road, , i remember a family on our block who's surname was wilkinson, & i think the lady next door was called martha, my mother pat also worked at a local wine shop just down the road from the church by the roundabout, i also remember the barnes family were good friends of ours. happy days :cool:

I was born at home in Lowedges 1968..7 Lupton Drive. My dad was Keith Woods,mum Andrea,Sisters Mandy,Adele,brothers Julian,Heath,Clinton,Todd and myself Shane.Mum n Dad used to go in the Magpie with Susan Parkin n her husband,(they divorced and she moved to Redcar)I can't really add much as i was a bit young,but i remember the Hansons,Jane,Buster,Mark and Jill.Think i can remember Magpie landlord,did he have a big red nose?or was he just a customer?Clinton went on to be a World Champion boxer.

My grandma and grandad lived on gresley road 1963 onwards and i think my uncle peter is still there.

I new Jimmy and his brother Allan, yjey lived on the cres.
My family lived in the block of houses called Lowedges (Chesterfield Road South) 21 houses if I remember.(The Ellis family lived at 21)
I didn't see much of Jim once I passed the age of 16 that was 46 years ago.
Lowedges was a good place then The Magpie, Grenal moor (which I frequented in the late 60's as my father stayed in the houses I mentioned until he died in 82.
I heard that the Magpie deterieted (bad clientell) later 70/80's so I hear.
I even had a part time job at the Magpie approx 1966/67

MY Mum Julie Grimbley used to live at Beckett Avenue in the mid 60s and my Dad Mick Bullifent lived next door, they married in 1968.

Tinachenn,
I don't think I new anybody off Beckett Ave.
But the name Mick Bullifent seams to be familiar, Prior to the(Lowedges) park being built (Elliss's had a farm, my brother used to help out and I'm sure there was a Mick Bullifent used to be there also. (This period was before Jordonthorpe & Batemoor came into existance. Just fields)
(I could be mistaken regaring M.B but he sure doies sound familiar) My brothers name is Mike Garton, he lived at 12 Lowedges in the block of houses before the farm.

garthai

alan and jimmy ogden lived on low edges drive at no 21, yeah magie has really gone down hill, must know you as we always went in magpie during the period from 1966 to 1970, i even spent my wedding night in the best room with charlie hotchen entertaining the locals,

Good to here from you!
I stand corrected, yes they did live on Lowedges Drive.
I was there around 1966/67 for sure. (Magpie)

I started working on pipelines 1967 initially in the Sheffield area. Although Sheffield remained my home base until 1982 I spent very little time there. I moved into Derbyshire (Nr Bakewell) again only based there until 1995.
I now live in Thailand.

Hello Jeff

Tony Crapper here. Remember Argentina in 1981? I hope you are well and in good health.

Yes,
Remember it well.
Health no problem although I'm a bit heavier.

What are you up to & where are you?

I`m still in Sheffield. I started a building business soon after Argentina and it did very well, and continues to do ok. I live in Bradway, so not too far from the lowedges, my dad still lives on Lowedges Crescent.
Do you know what happenend to the other lads from Argentina? Brian Kent, Tony Cornish, Ivor?
Whats Thialand like these days? It sounds better than going in the Magpie!

Brian & Ivor live in Coumbia. (their wive's are friends I don't think Ivor & Brian speak much)
They are both married to Columbian women, Brian has a son.

I worked in Ecuador a few years back, Walley was the client. I only did 1 trip (12 weeks) and I arranged for Brian to get some work there.
Last time that I saw Brian was in Dubai just 1 night, I've not heard from him since.
Not too sure of the other Liskeard lads, Tony etc.
Thailand's a good place to be, cost of living is 100% better than the U.K
Having spent the last 2 years on Sakhalin (Russia) I've decided to retire.
But if the something that I fancy turns up, I may go back to work.
Bt at the moment I'm enjoying myself, My son & myself have just returned fro Oz (he's nearly 11) we went to Sydney for 4 day's then upto Brisbane for rest of the 2 weeks holliday, visiting the theme parks on the gold coast.

Tony drop me a line to garthai@yahoo.co.uk

Darren was my 'first boyfriend' in 1979! I was 9 and he was about 11. He used to walk up to Greenhill School from Lowedges to see me at lunch time.

His loss was a tragedy.

Tinachenn,
I don't think I new anybody off Beckett Ave.
But the name Mick Bullifent seams to be familiar, Prior to the(Lowedges) park being built (Elliss's had a farm, my brother used to help out and I'm sure there was a Mick Bullifent used to be there also. (This period was before Jordonthorpe & Batemoor came into existance. Just fields)
(I could be mistaken regaring M.B but he sure doies sound familiar) My brothers name is Mike Garton, he lived at 12 Lowedges in the block of houses before the farm.

This is ringing bells with me...... There was a family lived on Beckett (if that's the one that runs down to the shops and the Grennel Mower?) called Bullifant, they had a daughter, and there was some connection with a farm I think. A previous post mentions a marrage in the mid sixties but that couldn't have been these people I don't think? unless it was his second wife??

My Mums family were from Lowedges '$Thompsons' lived on Gervase I think.

Hi there, yes Dad had three sisters, Anne, Kath and Jayne, him and Mum got married in 68 (the year i was born). Mum was definately his first wife lol

Yep. it's starting to gel.... where did you live???

Hi 2001louise - just seen your message about the Whymans. There were some Whymans lived next door to us on Gervase Ave and they had two sons Jack and Graham. Are they the same ones?

i remember the landlord at the magpie graham hemmingray was his son who worked with me at firth cleveland ropes in the 70s.

Hi, I lived on lowedges from 1954 till i got married in 1975 my mum still lives on Lupton Road I remember most of the people mentioned my best mate was Jane cooper and still is! Those were the days..

Hi Wassy,, did you have a sister? born in 59?

Hello Jeff

Tony Crapper here. Remember Argentina in 1981? I hope you are well and in good health.
Would that be the Tony Crapper from Atlantic Rd, your mum is called Joyce and father Roy?

i lived in lowedges place from 1955 to 196? was just built when we moved in... i was two months old! lol barry eyre lived around the corner and patricia bland... ring any bells wit anyone?

hi i looking for my old school mates Ann Butler, Kathryn Hirst Janet Walker we all went to jordanthorpe late 60's early 70's . Ann lived on lowedges , Kathryn n Janet in Greenhill. i am desperate to locate them as i have tried all other sourses i left in 1976.

Hi, what year did you leave?

Were you in the same year as Irene Peat, Ruby Dyke, Janet Williamson etc?

i was brought up on lowedges in the 70s, moved off when i was 18, recently moved back on to the estate, but some of the names are familiar, can anyone remember darren jeffcock. and the whymans

Yes I know the Jeffcocks well, who else do you know?

my best friend Ann Butler lived on lowedges cres with her dad and brother, we went to lowedges school and jordanthorpe tog, we lost touch then i last saw her about 1978 in town but nothing since, i am desperate to catch up with her, not sure if she has married now, i would welcome any information at all, she will be 51 now

my grandad charles burnand & nan peggy lived at 104 atlantic rd,lowedges they had 7kids,all daughters bar a son called derek,do you or any 1 remember this family?

Seems we're related. I vaguely remember Gloria, and I think she's my Godmother. My Mum is cousins with the 7 kids, her Dad was the brother of Charles (Derek)

hi to all who posted re lowedges, i lived on low edges drive from 1954 to 1968,
lived opposite jim & alan ogden, always got on with jim, always wary of alan.
im assuming that the gus you talk about was gus tomkins, at school his brother steve was a big hitter, he joined the army and rumour has it he did well. dave o'brian was one of my best mates for over 15 years along with phil & bob wragg, the dakin brothers, brian & linda blades, pat pinder, steve austin & ken bratby, all of us livedon the drive or low edges cresent, there were loads of us from of the estate that congregated on the maggy wall or the shops, mick brown, billy ash, haggis (patrick atkinson) ossie, spud (steve rose) alan roberts, robbo, mick, steve & roy mullins, mick irvine, and many more, could fill abook with the names, we all drank in maggy, norton hotel,
white swan and hart, be interesting if any of the names out of this list are on this site, if you want any more info let me know

phailig

hi you say u grew up on lowedges cresent , do you remember ann butler and if so wat became of her, i been trying to trace her for years now

hi you say u grew up on lowedges cresent , do you remember ann butler and if so wat became of her, i been trying to trace her for years now

hi moll sorry lived on low edges drive not cres, name rings a bell but not sure, where on cresent did she live.
phl

hi moll sorry lived on low edges drive not cres, name rings a bell but not sure, where on cresent did she live.
phl

hi, she lived bout half way down on the left, she had an older brother called roy? she was born in 1959 and we went to bradway juniors then on to jordanthorpe, cheers

just joined forum, lived behind maggie late 70's used to drink in there with 2 blokes called Pete Wright & Pete Joynes anybody know else know them.

hi i worked at magpie 68-70 frank and vi hemmingway were landlord and lady there were three rooms then big swing doors on the front led into snug where older people sat tap room on the right and concert room on left they used to play musical bingo sunday nights and if you didn't get in for 7-30 you had trouble getting a seat bit different now

Wrong about that one mate, I knew the Ogdens, Alan Ogden in particular. He lived with a very good friend of mine about 20 years ago and was really good with his fists, as she found out to her cost on several occasions. :nono:

That particular scenario was brought to a close when he was given a good bashing one dark evening by an anonymous assailant who told him it had happened for the last time and that it was better to leave while he still had the ability to walk. He left a week later when he came out of the hospital.

Who was the mystery assailant?

Nobody was ever charged and I could not possibly comment or speculate on the matter. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Really hard those Ogdens!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFPMSL :wink:
i knew the Ogdens. Friends of my family..... i was younger than Jimmy Ogden who was a mate of my brother Bob Barnes......always ok with me.

hi jauntyone

yes i remember buggsy if i remember right his surname was mullryan, i dont remember az or chris morton, but i remember loads of the old crowd who used to go to school at bradway county, jordanthorpe and rowlinson, there were also plenty of girls that used to be around the maggy, mary jackson, rea stockdale (recently been in a bit of trouble) anne barrow, sue ogden, dave o'briens mrs val, joyce peat, carol knowles and barbara white (both from woodseats, strange i can remember the lads names but not so many of the girls, some more lads, kenny cox, jim polfryman, mick, terry and phil hempshall, keith cooper, mick brown, dave hill, ronnie & dennis hill, they lived in maisonette opposit maggy and mick hotchin, we all spent hours around the pub, i even finished up in the maggy on my wedding night. if i can remember any more names i will put them on here,

see ya later

phailig
what became of Mick Hotchin. Did hear he moved to london hotel worker, how true is that ?

yes i did who are you

I lived on lupton road brand new ground floor maisonett 3 years old when i moved in left when 8 or 9 later lived lowedges crecent for a while. little jimmy barnes

I used to live on becket rd,lowedges went to jordanthorpe school 1966-70.would love to hear from any old schoolmates or neighbours.then moved onto batemoor-whinacre walk.come on someone get in touch.

hi there anybody remember the Wright family,lived on the drive at that time his pop was in the navy. Ian(scot)wright was my best mate he joined the navy went to the falklands his brother alistair was there as well.i knew or heard most of the names that were mentioned earlier.haggis was my brothers age and if i remember correctly he was a real arsehole as was big willy.last i heard he earned his living bashing people for money.I never drak in the maggie though,never liked it, usually drank in the village.

chris bullen! i remember playing in your tent in your grandmas garden.

good memories. I remember playing in the square at delevio ( not sure how to spell that ), kicking the ball at the garage doors, british bull dog ect

good memories

Sorry about that last message I'll try typing properly now Lol. I went to school with Phil and he always says I was the first person he met on starting school. How is he these days I haven't seen him for years!

Last time I saw Phil must be 20 odd years ago in the Aquarius Chesterfield.

We were not mates really but played together as kids on occasions.

Wrong about that one mate, I knew the Ogdens, Alan Ogden in particular. He lived with a very good friend of mine about 20 years ago and was really good with his fists, as she found out to her cost on several occasions. :nono:

That particular scenario was brought to a close when he was given a good bashing one dark evening by an anonymous assailant who told him it had happened for the last time and that it was better to leave while he still had the ability to walk. He left a week later when he came out of the hospital.

Who was the mystery assailant?

Nobody was ever charged and I could not possibly comment or speculate on the matter. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Really hard those Ogdens!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFPMSL :wink:

can any remeber my dad kev green

can any remeber my dad kev green

I remember Kev , he was one of the White Hart regulars in our crowd , very quiet but anybody that knew him well knew you didn't upset him.He had always fancied my ex Jane who came from posh Bradway so I was told but she picked me lol.I always got on well with Kev and used to deliver his milk when I started my own round up on Low Edges.I recognise virtually all the names mentioned here I lived up there from age 1 in 1954 till around 88.

Does anyone remember David and Peter Salvin from Lowedges ,I have been trying to contact David for years.

Johnh ... I worked in the chippy at the end of the shopping parade, we were going to take it over but it fell thru and at the time we leased maisonette down the road

Johnh ... I worked in the chippy at the end of the shopping parade, we were going to take it over but it fell thru and at the time we leased maisonette down the road

As I remember a woman owned it for years (can't think of her name) my sis worked there for a short time. In those days the portions were tiny compared to nowadays !!! most give enough chips for two :hihi:

I remember Kev , he was one of the White Hart regulars in our crowd , very quiet but anybody that knew him well knew you didn't upset him.He had always fancied my ex Jane who came from posh Bradway so I was told but she picked me lol.I always got on well with Kev and used to deliver his milk when I started my own round up on Low Edges.I recognise virtually all the names mentioned here I lived up there from age 1 in 1954 till around 88.

that will be kev hes my father inlaw not me dad sorry and my mother inlaw is marion green the u know was he a boxer ???? if so its him

Looking for the Selby family Sam and Pat,had three kids,two boys one girl.Last known address Gresley rd.(97?) Sam and i,used to work for Stanley Green forestry services Grimesthorpe.Selby's were living on Edmunds rd.previously to this and my girlfriend at the time-Minny Brooks and i used to babysit the kids,can't remember the kids names its been so long.anyone have any info at all?Grateful for anything. thanks.clydesdale

hi just come across this thread from 2006,and god theres names from the past. really took me back,does any body remember steve holmes who was born on the lowedges

hi just come across this thread from 2006,and god theres names from the past. really took me back,does any body remember steve holmes who was born on the lowedges

Yeah Steve was in my year at Jordanthorpe.

Think he went into banking? but that might be someone else.

dont think he went into banking.plenty of views not many posts tho

Your right, it was a lad off Gresley or Gervase that went into banking.... his name is on the tip...Grr :help:
I remember Steve well though, we were not mates as such but being in the same year I saw him most days.

Anyone remember Albert Johnson, is he still around Lowedges?

know what u mean so many names on the tip of

Heh, talk about nostalgic reading!!
Anyone know of an Angela Sage, married a guy called Nick? Old friends that I lost touch with when parents passed away. I lived off the same 'square' as Phil Morton. Talking of which..Lev Murray.. you out there?

know all three of them

Anyone remember Albert Johnson, is he still around Lowedges?

I was in the same class @ Jordanthorpe with Albert. Haven't seen him in over 40yrs, a mate of mine sees him @ Brammall lane occasionally.

Heh, talk about nostalgic reading!!
Anyone know of an Angela Sage, married a guy called Nick? Old friends that I lost touch with when parents passed away. I lived off the same 'square' as Phil Morton. Talking of which..Lev Murray.. you out there?

I know Phil morton his mum died a few months back, I also know his brothers Pete and Tony.
Tony lives at Chapel St Leonards now.

know all three of them

Excellent stuff!

Could you pm me Ang & Nicks Surname so that I can find them please?

Thx Turk

Elk

sorry nicks the one i dont know

I know Phil morton his mum died a few months back, I also know his brothers Pete and Tony.
Tony lives at Chapel St Leonards now.

Didn't know Mrs Morton had died :(

I saw some of the other neighbours a year or two back, great to see em after about 30 years.