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SL31
19-06-2006, 15:04
Do you judge people by the way they look, their age, their nationality before you talk to them or get to know them?

I know i can be guilty of it sometimes but try to see past it,...

Have you had any experience of judging someone then finding out they are a wonderful person??

My ex used to be covered in tattoos and piercings and he got judged all them time and he was one of the niciest people around.

My boyfriend has a shaved head and sometimes looks a bit rough and hard, he also gets judged by his appearence, but he's soft as a brush and very kind!

Isnt it awful that a lot of people miss out on friendships or relationships because they judge to fast!

KenH
19-06-2006, 15:06
Do you judge people by the way they look, their age, their nationality before you talk to them or get to know them?

I know i can be guilty of it sometimes but try to see past it,...

Have you had any experience of judging someone then finding out they are a wonderful person??

My ex used to be covered in tattoos and piercings and he got judged all them time and he was one of the niciest people around.

My boyfriend has a shaved head and sometimes looks a bit rough and hard, he also gets judged by his appearence, but he's soft as a brush and very kind!

Isnt it awful that a lot of people miss out on friendships or relationships because they judge to fast!

I agree with you Sarah, it is appalling. My own pet hate is people who are abusive about me on the internet just because they don't like my point of view. I think these are probably the same kind of people you are talking about who judge someone on looks alone.

EmilyJane
19-06-2006, 15:17
I try not to judge others by the way they look/speak/dress etc, however I do think its natural to have some sort of stereotyped/preconceived idea about people. Whether you let that effect the way you behave towards others is another thread all together.

I think society and the media put the images and ideas in our heads like teenagers and hoodies for example and what you were saying about your partner these ideas can be reinforced by others.

SL31
19-06-2006, 15:17
Yep, we are all guilty of it!

But being offensive to you KenH, on the internet isnt people judging you too fast, they already know enough about you to not like you, also judging someone by what their opinions etc, is getting to know them a bit then forming an opinion, this, i think is acceptable especially with the sh*t that you come out with!

NEKRO138
19-06-2006, 15:20
I agree with you Sarah, it is appalling. My own pet hate is people who are abusive about me on the internet just because they don't like my point of view. I think these are probably the same kind of people you are talking about who judge someone on looks alone.

Sorry bud, is this the same KenH that is currently banging on about what freaks people with tattoos are on another thread?

Chris_Sleeps
19-06-2006, 15:22
I judge people all the time. I wouldn't trust this man with my collection of fridge magnets.

http://sandiegojack.com/whack/content/images/large/piercing.jpg

willman
19-06-2006, 15:23
Yep, we are all guilty of it!

But being offensive to you KenH, on the internet isnt people judging you too fast, they already know enough about you to not like you, also judging someone by what their opinions etc, is getting to know them a bit then forming an opinion, this, i think is acceptable especially with the sh*t that you come out with!


and i'm sure such a small minded individual like yourself will be on Kens christmas card list.

SL31
19-06-2006, 15:31
and i'm sure such a small minded individual like yourself will be on Kens christmas card list.

Sorry, why am i small minded??

willman
19-06-2006, 15:39
for presupposing that kenh is worse than other people purely because he has an opinion that may offend you.

he may be a pillar of the local community,donate to charities & care for an invalid elderly mother.such venomous comments as " think is acceptable especially with the sh*t that you come out with!" is no better than your perception of his views.

SL31
19-06-2006, 15:41
Sorry when did i do that?? i gave my opinion of him and thats all, surely i am entitled to that?

missrabbit
19-06-2006, 15:46
I once had a girl working for me and she looked like a right scrubber. She lived with her mum who was an alcoholic, and brother who was taged and constantly in and out of prison! She was only 18 and all her friends had kids that had been taken off them for different reason and i will admit that i made my mind up that as soon as i found someone else to do her job, she would be history! I ended up giving her a chance and she is probably one of the nicest people i have ever ever meet. She still works for me and i love her to pieces and would be gutted if she ever went. I always feel really bad for judging her before getting to know her.

KenH
19-06-2006, 15:46
Sorry when did i do that?? i gave my opinion of him and thats all, surely i am entitled to that?

Of course you are Sarah, go ahead and express that opinion, although perhaps the swearing is a bit unnecessary, don't you think? I was just wondering why you think it is bad to have preconcieved ideas about someone based on what they look like but fine to have preconceived ideas about someone from reading a few things they have written. Aren't you simply a narrow minded person who likes to attack all those who disagree with your point of view? Or are you a broad minded person who thinks that people should have a broad spectrum of different views and should eb allowed to express them?

willman
19-06-2006, 15:48
but surely expressing an opinion on someone like you have ,is worse than judging on their appearance.
you have an opinion on his morals or political stance which you may dislike.
but it is unfair to dismiss him as a person on your opinion of his views.
you defend judging too fast - yet you've judged kenh for example purely on some contentious comments.

SL31
19-06-2006, 15:56
Of course you are Sarah, go ahead and express that opinion, although perhaps the swearing is a bit unnecessary, don't you think? I was just wondering why you think it is bad to have preconcieved ideas about someone based on what they look like but fine to have preconceived ideas about someone from reading a few things they have written. Aren't you simply a narrow minded person who likes to attack all those who disagree with your point of view? Or are you a broad minded person who thinks that people should have a broad spectrum of different views and should eb allowed to express them?

No-one is perfect are they KenH?

I have formed an opinion of you and given you that opinion. I personally dont think its too fast.

I like to think that i am broad minded yes, and i dont think forming an opinion about someone who i dont share views with could be classfied as small minded either.

Like i have said befire everyone is different and the world would be a pretty boring place if we were all the same

shoeshine
19-06-2006, 15:56
I agree with you Sarah, it is appalling. My own pet hate is people who are abusive about me on the internet just because they don't like my point of view. I think these are probably the same kind of people you are talking about who judge someone on looks alone.

Didn't you troll my innocent Rememberance Thread for the D-Day Anniversary a couple of weeks ago KenH? :)

And on another thread.......this happened when you were under pressure from another poster

Quote KenH
KenH post 67

"My husband is currently reading a book from our shop entitled "How to work out if some pompous twit is actually only student with a dictionary". I asked him to apply the contents of this book to Chav, while I went out to feed the Buffalo on the far side of the farm. It turns out that he fits the criteria in the book exactly and that we should help him find his inner child using one of our other books."
Unquote

On the same Thread

Quote KenH
KenH Post 72

"No, I am British, A yorkshireman, and an Argentine. If I lived in the US then and gained citizenship then I would have to call myself an Anglo-Yorky-Argentine American."


Unquote.

Will the real KenH stand up please. Are you Mr. KenH, or Mrs. KenH ?:confused:

nick2
19-06-2006, 15:58
Perhaps Mr Ken has had a few "modifications" and become Mrs Ken ?

SL31
19-06-2006, 15:59
but surely expressing an opinion on someone like you have ,is worse than judging on their appearance.
you have an opinion on his morals or political stance which you may dislike.
but it is unfair to dismiss him as a person on your opinion of his views.
you defend judging too fast - yet you've judged kenh for example purely on some contentious comments.

If you like! lol

I have given my opinion on someone who i dont share views with, who i have read many views that i find to be ridiculous and unbelievable....

I dont think that is worse that judging someone before they have even opened their mouth.

Nimrod
19-06-2006, 16:03
I was in business for many years and used to meet lots of new people every day. I learned to follow my instincts and found that if I was 'uneasy' about someone on first meeting them it was usually justified and I would be on my guard with them. I was very rarely wrong about people after a few years.

KenH
19-06-2006, 16:14
Didn't you troll my innocent Rememberance Thread for the D-Day Anniversary a couple of weeks ago KenH? :) :

No I didn't. I expressed opinions on that thread which were entirely consistant with the theme but contrary to some of the other posters. It was easier for them to call me a troll than to respond to the comments.

KenH
19-06-2006, 16:20
I was in business for many years and used to meet lots of new people every day. I learned to follow my instincts and found that if I was 'uneasy' about someone on first meeting them it was usually justified and I would be on my guard with them. I was very rarely wrong about people after a few years.

There is a difference between what people look like and what makes you feel uneasy about them. In my experience it can often look like you have been put off someone by their appearance but actually their appearance might be an external reflection of some other internal problem. On the other hand you can meet many people who look unusual in some way but are actually very nice or perhaps different in a good way.

Don_Kiddick
19-06-2006, 16:22
Yep, we are all guilty of it!

But being offensive to you KenH, on the internet isnt people judging you too fast, they already know enough about you to not like you, also judging someone by what their opinions etc, is getting to know them a bit then forming an opinion, this, i think is acceptable especially with the sh*t that you come out with!
:hihi: I haven't laughed so hard for days! :hihi:

Thanks SL


It is difficult NOT to judge people - thats why we are meant to dress up for interviews etc as ''first impressions count''

shoeshine
19-06-2006, 16:23
No I didn't. I expressed opinions on that thread which were entirely consistant with the theme but contrary to some of the other posters. It was easier for them to call me a troll than to respond to the comments.


You were warned by me several times politely Not to try to make it political.

The Thread was entitled "Lest We Forget" started around 30th May or so.

After a final warning in which I declared I would place the decision on your behaviour before the Mods to adjudicate, the Mod on duty declared you were trolling.

And I note you avoid my slightly earlier post on this thread.......in order to confirm what I said on it, "Mr. or Mrs KenH"......I post a link below.

You realise that the terms and conditions on this forum do not permit multiple users on one username to post on the Forum.

Read Post No.67 and Post No.72


This page.......look through it please (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1230453#post1230453)

KenH
19-06-2006, 16:27
You were warned by me several times politely Not to try to make it political.

After a final warning in which I declared I would place the decision on your behaviour before the Mods to adjudicate, the Mod on duty declared you were trolling.

And I note you avoid my slightly earlier post on this thread.......in order to confirm what I said on it, "Mr. or Mrs KenH"......I post a link below.

You realise that the terms and conditions on this forum do not permit multiple users on one username to post on the Forum.

Read Post No.67 and Post No.72


This page.......look through it please (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1230453#post1230453)

You are welcome to your opinion about whether I was trolling or not, although it seems I am not welcome to my opinion and so you tried to get me censored.

I don't have multiple ID's, just the one. You are simply oppressing me because I don't fit into your idea that everyone has to be either married or single, male or female, black or white.

I am a bit confused as to why you are allowed to hijack this thread and completely change the subject, and that isn't considered to be trolling yet I posted on yours well within the scope and yet you didn't like it.

shoeshine
19-06-2006, 16:33
You are welcome to your opinion about whether I was trolling or not, although it seems I am not welcome to my opinion and so you tried to get me censored.

I don't have multiple ID's, just the one. You are simply oppressing me because I don't fit into your idea that everyone has to be either married or single, male or female, black or white.

I am a bit confused as to why you are allowed to hijack this thread and completely change the subject, and that isn't considered to be trolling yet I posted on yours well within the scope and yet you didn't like it.

Mr. or Mrs. KenH....you have gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

No wonder sarahlorna has such a low opinion of you.........she is certainly not alone.

It's there in Black and White on your screen. I will post a link to my Rememberance thread too if people wish me too..... but it can easily be found with a very quick search.

KenH
19-06-2006, 16:36
Mr. or Mrs. KenH....you have gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

No wonder sarahlorna has such a low opinion of you.........she is certainly not alone.

It's there in Black and White on your screen. I will post a link to my Rememberance thread too if people wish me too..... but it can easily be found with a very quick search.

Come on Shoeshine, stop trolling or I will report you. This is your final warning to stay on topic.

EmilyJane
19-06-2006, 16:37
Not that it matters but Mr H may be married Mr H.

nick2
19-06-2006, 16:37
Not that it matters but Mr H may be married Mr H.

I seriously doubt that.

shoeshine
19-06-2006, 16:42
Come on Shoeshine, stop trolling or I will report you. This is your final warning to stay on topic.

KenH........You seem to have broken Forum Terms and Conditions, which until now have gone unnoticed by the Mods. My advice is to let things lie as they are. :)

If you are not willing to do that, then press the report button and draw both of us to the Mod's attentions.:thumbsup:

SL31
19-06-2006, 17:01
What with this and the tattooed girl thread i am starting to feel a little sorry for Mr or Mrs KenH :P

SL31
19-06-2006, 17:02
:hihi: I haven't laughed so hard for days! :hihi:

Thanks SL


It is difficult NOT to judge people - thats why we are meant to dress up for interviews etc as ''first impressions count''

You're very welcome!

shoeshine
19-06-2006, 17:03
Now to reply to the topic, I have to say that I have in the past judged people by their appearances far too quickly and came to realise that it is an unreliable way of judging a person as I got older.

What you see is not what you get with people on most occasions.

Litha
19-06-2006, 17:09
i usually judge people unfairly.. i tend to think most people are nice people and against hubbys advice go out of my way to help them and end up getting stabbed in the back, :rant:

timo
19-06-2006, 17:15
Now to reply to the topic, I have to say that I have in the past judged people by their appearances far too quickly and came to realise that it is an unreliable way of judging a person as I got older.

What you see is not what you get with people on most occasions.

Mind you, Shoeshine, old fruit, sometimes first impressions are all one has to go on. If one is approached late at night by a caped, rollerscating octagenarian figure, naked from the waist downwards, wearing 'Deely Bobbers', and a surgical mask screaming obscenities, one could be forgiven for making negative 'value-judgements'. Having said that, I have grown accustomed to your little eccentricities and no longer bellow, 'Nurse! Nurse! Shoeshine's out of bed again!' whenever I behold you.

shoeshine
19-06-2006, 17:18
Mind you, Shoeshine, old fruit, sometimes first impressions are all one has to go on. If one is approached late at night by a caped, rollerscating octagenarian figure, naked from the waist downwards, wearing 'Deely Bobbers', and a surgical mask screaming obscenities, one could be forgiven for making negative 'value-judgements'. Having said that, I have grown accustomed to your little eccentricities and no longer bellow, 'Nurse! Nurse! Shoeshine's out of bed again!' whenever I behold you.


:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

And there I am thinking I am invisible after midnight.

Cyclone
19-06-2006, 17:38
It's perfectly normal to make an initial judgement based on appearance.

Just be aware that you've done it and be prepared to change it if needs be.

minnime
19-06-2006, 18:15
I never judge people as deep down they can be the nicest person like me but i have already been judged by a few on here gave me a bad name for defending my family and it aint fair:mad: :mad:

mr.blaze
19-06-2006, 18:16
I judge people on actions and how someone comes accross, not what others say and their experiences with them. As quite often someone else's views often turn out to be completely incorrect.

StarSparkle
19-06-2006, 18:26
Sorry, why am i small minded??

Don't worry yourself about what Willman says, Sarahlorna - he's enjoyed being gratuitously unpleasant to people on the Forum this afternoon. Just ignore him.

I suspect it's his hormones....

StarSparkle

KenH
19-06-2006, 19:32
Don't worry yourself about what Willman says, Sarahlorna - he's enjoyed being gratuitously unpleasant to people on the Forum this afternoon. Just ignore him.

I suspect it's his hormones....

StarSparkle


I think Willman is one of only a very few people on this thread who are making any sense and he certainly hasn't been unpleasant to me. On the other hand I have been attacked, sworn at and generally abused by a number of other people for simply expressing my opinion. I have had to have a lie down for a few hours and only now do I feel able to continue, Willman helped me through this crisis as it seems he is one of the few people who is not judgemental.

Hecate
19-06-2006, 19:40
Everyone is judged on first impressions; it's an inevitable part of our psychology. You once needed to be able to assess quickly whether another person was a potential friend or foe; I suspect in some situations this is still very much the case.

First impressions do count, especially in an interview or other business situation. In a social context, only the most superficial (or perhaps wary or shy) will fail to get past that initial impression.

shoeshine
19-06-2006, 19:47
Everyone is judged on first impressions; it's an inevitable part of our psychology. You once needed to be able to assess quickly whether another person was a potential friend or foe; I suspect in some situations this is still very much the case.

First impressions do count, especially in an interview or other business situation. In a social context, only the most superficial (or perhaps wary or shy) will fail to get past that initial impression.

Hecate.......the voice of a mature person at last....I am usually shy in real life but I can't stand "humbugs"........and it shows sometimes.....

I shall have to restrain myself in future, or I may have to go and lie down for a few hours too.:)

Sierra
19-06-2006, 19:50
Sometimes people will cultivate an appearance to project what they feel is a certain image. People in the public eye are masters at this, and if they're not, they hire someone who is. When you look at them, you are seeing what they want you to see. People may have expensive homes, clothes, jewelry, cars, etc. But the house is rented, the cars and jewelry are leased, and they're in hock up to their eyeballs. Others do it to deceive, get a leg up on the other guy in business, or just to make people feel at ease so they'll buy whatever they're selling. The first time I go to a business person's offices, I always look around, and if it's really nice I think, "who's paying for all this?" I would be if I became this person's client/patient etc.

I try and take people as individuals, though I am guilty of stereotyping. I get it because of my nationality, sometimes. I can think of a few people on the forum who are just about as different from me as you could imagine, yet I've found them to be decent and warm hearted, and actually quite nice.

:) Sierra

willman
19-06-2006, 20:51
Don't worry yourself about what Willman says, Sarahlorna - he's enjoyed being gratuitously unpleasant to people on the Forum this afternoon. Just ignore him.

I suspect it's his hormones....

StarSparkle


im not unpleasant , i just dont agree with you or your attitudes if they support the likes of sarahlorna.

you despise prejudice with one breath and then condone with the next.
try seeing things from someone elses perspective for once.

SL31
19-06-2006, 21:26
im not unpleasant , i just dont agree with you or your attitudes if they support the likes of sarahlorna.

you despise prejudice with one breath and then condone with the next.
try seeing things from someone elses perspective for once.

Everyone is prejudist! but some views are worse than others and in my opinion ( and dont forget we all have the right to an opinion) the likes of you and KenH are ars*holes.

As i said earlier you must live on a different f*cking planet!! And please please look back and realise that you two are in the minority in most cases....

BIGOTS

JoeP
19-06-2006, 22:06
SarahLorna, please chill.

Please don't be abusive or offensive in your posts. Given that the only way to judge people on here is by what they post and how they express trhemselves, using bad language and name calling ISN"T going to make a good impression!

So, please cool it.

Joe

SHsheff
19-06-2006, 22:13
Post removed - originally written at the same time as other people were posting....

JoeP
19-06-2006, 22:17
SHSheff,

Just leave this alone, please. This thread is getting a little hot and bothered right now and your posting isn't helping.

So, just let things cool.

Joe

SHsheff
19-06-2006, 22:19
SHSheff,

Just leave this alone, please. This thread is getting a little hot and bothered right now and your posting isn't helping.

So, just let things cool.

Joe

Yeah, sorry, np. I was writing that as you were posting your previous warning so I didn't see it.

rocketpig
19-06-2006, 22:25
I think judging people by their opinions ON HERE is fair play because that is all we interact with. I see whether they do charity work or are druggies irrelevent on here.

However in real life people's alround charachtor matters because we interact in all sorts of differnt ways so i think initially judgeing is a problem, but its natural, we all do it.

Usually i think it just delays getting to know the person properly, and not stops it all together.

so yeah, people IMO are right to judge people on here from their opinions.....because thats all there is

SHsheff
19-06-2006, 22:27
so yeah, people IMO are right to judge people on here from their opinions.....because thats all there is

I'm fine with making decisions on people on here based on their opinions (and the way they present them) but I don't like it when people get personally abusive - which includes swearing, mask*d or not.

rocketpig
19-06-2006, 22:35
I'm fine with making decisions on people on here based on their opinions (and the way they present them) but I don't like it when people get personally abusive - which includes swearing, mask*d or not.

and thats a completey different subject. this thread is about judging people, not abusing people!

Obviously judgement can lead to abuse but thats a different kettle of fish

SHsheff
19-06-2006, 22:38
and thats a completey different subject. this thread is about judging people, not abusing people!

Obviously judgement can lead to abuse but thats a different kettle of fish

You're quite right. Time for bed, I'm obviously not concentrating and am just posting gibberish. (No need for any smart-alec responses, thanks, they'd be wasted on me as I'll be asleep....) :)

Cyclone
19-06-2006, 23:30
and vice versa RP, abuse leads to judgement (or a revision of it).