In my usual quest to find a pub that's available to take on, Brownhill Vickers sent me through the brochure for the Jervis Lum in Norfolk Park. It looked a good size and I rang them for more info only to learn that it had been sold to a local authority.

What would a local authority want to use the pub for? There's plenty of closed down buildings nearby it including what looks like a community centre.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Didn't it get turned into a church?

I think it got either boarded up or knocked down IIRC.
Not been passed on the tram in a while so cannot quite fully remember.

However if you're looking for ANY pub... try getting the Horse and Groom at Gleadless Valley turned into a Rock Bar... that place is attrracting nowt but chav's these days!

The Jervis Lum is still there and is still boarded up. No sign of it being a church!

Still seeking new premises though.....keep looking for me folks!

the jervis is still there, and i seem to remember brownhill vickers and platts saying it was looking to be re-opened. this was way back in january or so. i think the one that was turned into a church was the fellbrigg further up the road. if anyone will know, the community assoc on the parade of shops will.
how about the horse and lion? is that still going? also - the captive queen closed down - what happened to that?

Both the Felbrigg and the Captive Queen were turned into churches. The Horse And Lion is still open, but doesnt look the friendliest of places. And the Jervis Lum is all boarded up, with no sign of re-opening.

I know that just before it closed down a bloke who had supposedly fell asleep at the bar had his eye brows shaved off for a laugh. When they came to wake him they found out that he was dead.

Originally posted by mr craig
I know that just before it closed down a bloke who had supposedly fell asleep at the bar had his eye brows shaved off for a laugh. When they came to wake him they found out that he was dead.


:wow:

Well, we all have to die sometime, somewhere....at least he was in a place of pleasure.

the Jervis Lumb, I believe, has been bought under a compulsory purchase order, something to do with the massive rebuild that's going on on the estate.

It is correct that the Fellbrigg has been turned into a church-stroke-community centre. (and the Church of the Nazarene bought and converted The Captive Queen building, a bit further over.)

The tale of the shaven eyebrows is sadly not entirely correct.

The actual tale is that a customer had been on a "bit of a bender". He became unconcious, but folk thought he was simply asleep. no-one noticed that he had stopped breathing. He died. It was only realised that the bloke had died when he could not be woken up at the end of the night.

he was not at the bar, he was somewhere at the back of the room, on one of the long sofa things (Landsettle?)

There was an inquest, where it was deemed that the massive amounts of alcohol that he'd supped had played a big part in his passing.
(Alcohol, in such huge quantities can actually cause someone's breathing reflex to fail, and the person can die.)

there was no hi-jinks. no shaving of eyebrows etc..... that is an Urban Legend, which has become attached to this sad story.

(a distant in-law of ours was the licensee at the time of this incident)

as an aside, the horse and lion just up the hill from the Jervis was nicknamed the "Horse and Flying Bottle" by my brother in law. he livesd opposite it and it was more tha a bit dodgy.

PT

Compulsory puchase order????
I can't find anything on the council website about it. What are they going to develop there?

Originally posted by Classic Rock
Compulsory puchase order????
I can't find anything on the council website about it. What are they going to develop there?

(i am not 100% about the cpo...it's what I had been told by in-law, the former licensee)

i believe that they are putting in more of the low-rise housing developments like the ones being built a little further up the hill near the Horse and flying bottle".

there is a lot more land on Norfolk Park released for new building projects because the former Bluestone Primary School (behind the Jervis) is also gone, replaced by the brand new school on Guildford Ave, which merged the Norfolk and Bluestone schools.

PT

But who are "they"? If the local authority has made a compulsory purchase order then this must be for council property? Or is it on behalf of a housing building company....in which case how did they manage to get the compulsory purchase order?

This is a change of use of a building.....I wonder who "they" are....would love to chat to them.

I believe there is a cpo that covers(ed) just about the whole of the area from just below the horse and... downwards toward the Queen's tower where the high rise and the maisonettes were, and then, above the horse, around beldon road (where the latest tower block was demolished, in January- the brown one) again, where the upper patch of maisonettes were.

this order, I believe is from the council, and was necessary for the rebuild that's going on. (there was a regeneration pot of money to rebuild this "sink-estate".

I heard that a proportion of the vic-hallam houses are scheduled to be demolished, too, near the park side of the estate, near guildford drive etc, which is why they have not been refurbished like the clusters around kenninghall, samuel and park-spring sections.

I will use my contacts at the town hall to see what I can find out for you, CR... OK?

PT

just to clarify, I think it's all to do with some gov't/ european regneration money that has been allocated to "improve Sink estates", and norfolk park is where the sheffield money has gone.

PT