I have to say I was very pleased to see the whaling commision vote against large scale resumption of hunting whales.
I find the hunting of those beautiful creatures terrible and I hope that the next crucial vote also goes the same way.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3704443a10,00.html

The Japanese got the knock back this time but they will be back, you can count on it.
Lets hope one of the Koreans new ballistic missiles falls on their whaling fleet.

The Japanese got the knock back this time but they will be back, you can count on it.
Lets hope one of the Koreans new ballistic missiles falls on their whaling fleet.


Yeh too right.:)

This thread kind of buggers the perception Roy is an evil self centred sod doesn't it :hihi:

good on you for posting this link Roy :thumbsup: heard it on the radio earlier and was a little puzzled to why the japanese, despite so many developements similar to ours, wanted to go back to whailing :huh:

This thread kind of buggers the perception Roy is an evil self centred sod doesn't it :hihi:


Is this relevant? If for example I killed people for fun, but liked puppies, that would make me a nice person? Not, making point about roy there, just a general one. Just seems like a bit of an odd comment and off topic.

I personally am against whaling especially if it affects the natural balance. However, as a species, we kill lots of animals inhumanely, and most people don't seem to care. How come we turn a blind eye to some creatures and not to others. Is it because it's more fashionable to 'save the whales' than 'save the cows'?

Is this relevant? If for example I killed people for fun, but liked puppies, that would make me a nice person? Not, making point about roy there, just a general one. Just seems like a bit of an odd comment and off topic.

I personally am against whaling especially if it affects the natural balance. However, as a species, we kill lots of animals inhumanely, and most people don't seem to care. How come we turn a blind eye to some creatures and not to others. Is it because it's more fashionable to 'save the whales' than 'save the cows'?


That is true im afraid,I was in town the other day and there was a signature campaing against the live export of animals to the continent,I signed the petition and gave them a couple of quid.
I just have a particular soft spot for the whales,anyway back to the topic,I hope the japanese and the Norwegians will abide by the vote and detest from this barbaric practice.

Is this relevant? If for example I killed people for fun, but liked puppies, that would make me a nice person? Not, making point about roy there, just a general one. Just seems like a bit of an odd comment and off topic.

I personally am against whaling especially if it affects the natural balance. However, as a species, we kill lots of animals inhumanely, and most people don't seem to care. How come we turn a blind eye to some creatures and not to others. Is it because it's more fashionable to 'save the whales' than 'save the cows'?
beef tastes nice, whale im not sure hence i voted "not sure", also not sure because japan already catches and kills a large amount of whales, so maybe should it be stopped rather than resumed.

I find it weird that the Japanese want to increase whaling and yet according to the news they have thousands of tonnes of the meat frozen that they can't get rid of and basically sell it at give away prices to get rid of it. Personnally I don't see the point if this is the case.... Madness...

save all animals - become a vegetarian and buy organic dairy products.

save all animals - become a vegetarian and buy organic dairy products.
don't were at the top of the food chain for a reason

This thread kind of buggers the perception Roy is an evil self centred sod doesn't it :hihi:

good on you for posting this link Roy :thumbsup: heard it on the radio earlier and was a little puzzled to why the japanese, despite so many developements similar to ours, wanted to go back to whailing :huh:

I've never heard anyone claim that Roy was self centred! :confused:

However... and this isn't aimed at Roy... lots of people who claim to like animals turn out to be horrible to their fellow humans. Even Hitler was a veggie, wasn't he?

Going back to the topic, I hope the Japanese abide by the decision to keep the ban.

One thing I cant work out is WTF is " scientific whaling " ?
I saw it on the news and it said all the whales killed for so called scientific purposes ended up in the restaurants in Japan .
I think people all over the world should organise to boycott Japanese good if they carry on and lets not forget the Norwegians they to were pushing for all out slaughter of whales .

I'd eat a whale burger. - just out of curiosity

Scientific whaling is just a ruse to kill more whales than their allocation. Just in case the Japanese don't stick by the rules I'm printing a sticker for the car. 'Save a Whale Harpoon a Jap' :P

I have eaten whate meat, both reasonably fresh and different kinds of dried, festering stuff. You can probably tell by my use of the word "festering" that it is not something I would care to repeat. We already have commercial whaling, but it is carried out under the pretence of research and this keeps some kind of restriction on it, you cannot completely stop whaling because whale meat is one of the key elements of the Inuit diet. In Japan you can already get whale meat, it is just more expensive than they would like. The key is to get the balance right, which probably means even less whaling than we have now. It would be quite easy for the anti whaling lobby to fix things, they just need to spend the kind of money that Japan is spending on recruiting new nations to the whaling commission and on bribing them with aid packages. This is what the anti whaling countries did to get the ban in the first place.

Bad news, latest vote goes Japan's way

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5093350.stm

If we could park the emotive aspects of whaling to one side for a minute, I wonder if there are any independant facts about whether the whale population has recovered. I understood that the populaton hadn't really recovered since the ban, probably not helped by the fact that it is still hunted, but in smaller numbers. Does anyone have any figures?

...Does anyone have any figures?
There was a lengthy piece in the Independent at the weekend, I'll try and find some figure from it if it hasn't gone to the blue bins already ;)

I'd eat a whale burger. - just out of curiosity
Home delivery Mickey? (http://www.worth1000.com/entries/90000/90304TYbx_w.jpg) :hihi:

I have eaten whate meat, both reasonably fresh and different kinds of dried, festering stuff.
:shocked: I'm appalled to hear that.

Shame on you. :mad:

:shocked: I'm appalled to hear that.

Shame on you. :mad:

It was in Greenland and the choice was fish or whale. Since it was already dead and I was hungry it seemed a good idea to give it a try. The dried stuff had the consistency of leather and the taste of rotten fish. I can taste it again just thinking about it.

I wouldnt mind trying panda burgers. Not because I want the meat but because I would like to play at least a little part in the demise of such a stupid pointless creature that has soaked up countless millions in funding.
Black and white bears my a***e.

I wouldnt mind trying panda burgers. Not because I want the meat but because I would like to play at least a little part in the demise of such a stupid pointless creature that has soaked up countless millions in funding.
Black and white bears my a***e.

:hihi: that made me laugh :blush:

I wouldnt mind trying panda burgers. Not because I want the meat but because I would like to play at least a little part in the demise of such a stupid pointless creature that has soaked up countless millions in funding.
Black and white bears my a***e.

I share your cravings for Panda, AJ. There is no reason why we should not be able to dine on such fare. I would imagine that the meat tastes much better if the Panda has been subjected to a good , tenderising whipping prior to the death blow. Demoiselles of Panda is the food of the future, washed down with a good Chablis. Pip pip!

I share your cravings for Panda, AJ. There is no reason why we should not be able to dine on such fare. I would imagine that the meat tastes much better if the Panda has been subjected to a good , tenderising whipping prior to the death blow. Demoiselles of Panda is the food of the future, washed down with a good Chablis. Pip pip!

Someone once said "What do panda bears have that dinosaurs lack? An utter indifference to their own wellbeing".
They aint kidding.

Maybe we can get this (http://www.in-focus.co.uk/ent_thumb//f16e11.jpg) horrid individual to cook it for us.
That is if we can get him to take that that stupid mask off.

The Danish vote was disappointing, but not entirely a surprise.

There will be a lot of diplomatic conniving going on - the pro-whaling countries will be trying to buy votes, and paying off the other voters with favourable trade concessions to make it worth their while.

I expect and hope we and the other anti-whalers will react in the same way now, but it is a worry.

don't were at the top of the food chain for a reason


yes, but we also have a brain and morals, and very good meat free alternatives!

yes, but we also have a brain and morals, and very good meat free alternatives!
We shouldn't eat whales, for two good reasons. First, we aren't farming and replacing the stocks, second, we don't have humane means available to kill them.

Meat-free? – bugger that. I wouldn’t expect a lamb to waste its young life frolicking around without being eaten.

This is systematic of the Japanese who think whaling is part of their culture. It was part of UK and US culture centuries ago. Will add yes, there is a difference between fox hunting and whaling before getting called a hypocrite... the difference between vermin rat/fox and whale/dolphin is stark.

They refuse to blame themselves for WW2 either, nor do they acknowledge to the nations they slaughtered around them. Unlike Germany, who've shown pennance and deserve to be where they are in the world.

Suppose leading the world on building new technology/robots doesn't help them to acknowledge their past as they are still very much part of the future of the world. So whaling is still part of their superior being on planet earth, the rest of the world that doesn't agree are merely inferior slaves.

All this 'Save the Whale' nonsense frankly makes one puke. What about the terrible toll the wretched, 'precious', 'endangered' bloody Whale is having upon plankton? Nobody cares about them. I don't see any 'Save the plankton' campaigns. Whales are the vermin of the ocean, and I for one will be glad to see the back of them. F*** the lot of them, especially the Blue Whale. I hope that dies out first. As for there being any difference between the rat and the fox and the whale and the ruddy dolphin- there isn't any, except in terms of intelligence. The rat and the fox are brighter. Are the rat and the fox stupid enough to beach themselves? Answer me that!

I thought that the Norweigians want to the ban to be lifted is because their fish stock is getting lower ?

There comes a point when important decisions have to be made. Even though the whale numbers may not fully recover (whatever that means), shouldn't they be controlled, so that the fish source do not deplete in a large scale, but is able to sustain itself too ?

Before anyone hark on about just surviving on reared meat, and various other unnatural foodstuff for protein, and vitamins. I rather have fresh, natural foodstuff, free of any additives. (I jjust found out that some salmon are farmed with added colourants in their feed to make them look more pink. I couldn't believe that.)

If we need to control whaling as a way to control the foodchain, then I am all for it. Unless we control our fish intakes instead...

The foodcahin takes care of itself, when there's little fish stocks, the whale numbers die naturally. Nature managed perfectly well for millennia without man interfearing.

Even if man don't kill the whales for its meat. Won't human consumption of the fish affect the whale numbers anyway ?

I don't quite understand how the ban has managed to keep the whale numbers up, but we're still able to have fish for our meals. It is because we now begin to farm inland for it, than from the seas ?

The Scandinavian countries have always had fish as part of their diets. So do the Japanese. So what exactly have changed on the food chain ?

Very few ''whales'' eat fish anyway - they tend to be plankton eaters.

If that is the case, then why all the debate about lifting the whale ban now ? Are you trying to confuse me ? I only caught a snippet of the news this week about this. :P

All this 'Save the Whale' nonsense frankly makes one puke. What about the terrible toll the wretched, 'precious', 'endangered' bloody Whale is having upon plankton? Nobody cares about them. I don't see any 'Save the plankton' campaigns. Whales are the vermin of the ocean, and I for one will be glad to see the back of them. F*** the lot of them, especially the Blue Whale. I hope that dies out first. As for there being any difference between the rat and the fox and the whale and the ruddy dolphin- there isn't any, except in terms of intelligence. The rat and the fox are brighter. Are the rat and the fox stupid enough to beach themselves? Answer me that!
Timo, your posts, however provocative (keep that up) are usually bloody well put together and convincing.

This one has me a little - - - perturbed.

I think people all over the world should organise to boycott Japanese good if they carry on...

But they make the most reliable cars, and the best home electronics :o

Hey, I wonder if Microsoft will support a boyccott, if only to prevent the PlayStation 3 from being sold over here :D

Lets hope one of the Koreans new ballistic missiles falls on their whaling fleet.

If you're that serious about the subject, perhaps you should join Greenpeace, travel to the Far East and protest to the Japanese government (just make sure that the Korean missile doesn't land on you :suspect: )

Timo, your posts, however provocative (keep that up) are usually bloody well put together and convincing.

This one has me a little - - - perturbed.

I didn't think it was possible to 'perturb' you, old fruit! LOL.

Hey, hey, hey ! Keep it clean please ! Family forum, ya de da. :D