Survey out today suggests that women still do the lions share of housework. Does this surprise you? It doesn't me. :cry:

I am full time stay at home mum so I expect to do most of the chores but if I went out to work I would insist on a 50/50 split.

I feel so sorry for women who work and then come home to do all the cooking, cleaning, shopping looking after children while their husbands/partners sit on their backsides watching tv. Why do they put up with it? :evil:

Come on fellas lets have your views :D

Most lads I know are lazy.

My boyfriend is lazy. I work full time same as him but he expects me to wait hand and foot on him, just like his dear mother.

It gets right on my nerves and basically everyday is a battle for us with him going on at me to do more and me digging my heels in and refusing.

I've told him I wont marry him until he changes, if he doesn't then I think we will have to part which neither of us want but I refuse to be a slave to a man for the rest of my days.

I blame mothers.

Absoloutley!!!

Just taking my pinny off now after a morning washing hoovering shopping.

No seriously I do loads, my wife works as do I, so we both muck in. I do most of food shopping, cooking. She does most of the washing and ironing. I do all gardening, she does all the spending on her clothes.

No problem with it, I quite like cooking, takes my mind of things at work.

Did anyone see that program last night on Britian laziest men???

It was horrific. There was a couple in Hastings and for the last 32 years the Mrs (paula she was called) has been getting up at 4.30am every morning to wash and blow wave her husbands hair!!! Also is she doesn't do it right, he'll wet it and she has to do it again.
She sorts out his clothes and folds up his sleeves for him. Makes his breakfast and they they BOTH go off to work,
She gets back from work around 7pm and has a cooked meal ready for him by 7.30-8pm.
She then tidies up and makes him cups of tea, cleans and turns the TV channels over for him.
He goes to bed around 9-10pm and then she stays up to clean and get his lunch ready for the next day :shock:

My ex was usless round the house...........hence the ex. I worked full time whilst with him and it was like pushing *bleep* uphill getting him off his arse. My hubby now is great. He lived on his own for years before we met so he is capable of picking up an iron every now and again.
Generally though I do most of the housework. I work from home and keep the kids in check.

Moon Maiden

Originally posted by "Moon Maiden"

Did anyone see that program last night on Britian laziest men???

It was horrific. There was a couple in Hastings and for the last 32 years the Mrs (paula she was called) has been getting up at 4.30am every morning to wash and blow wave her husbands hair!!! Also is she doesn't do it right, he'll wet it and she has to do it again.
She sorts out his clothes and folds up his sleeves for him. Makes his breakfast and they they BOTH go off to work,
She gets back from work around 7pm and has a cooked meal ready for him by 7.30-8pm.
She then tidies up and makes him cups of tea, cleans and turns the TV channels over for him.
He goes to bed around 9-10pm and then she stays up to clean and get his lunch ready for the next day :shock:

Moon Maiden

Why do women put up with this?
That is going a bit far, did she wipe his a** too?

Just thought I'd add my 2 penneth to this mix and I wanted to know if anyone else thought it was fair.

I work full time in may day job and part time in the evenings, so on average I work a 50-60 hour week (in order for us to pay the mortgage, loans, bilss and save for the wedding next year).
My better half does most of the cleaning, cooking and washing of my clothes.
I do mow the lawn, do DIY stuff and the general man thingts around the house.

Am I taking advantage of her? Should I do more? Is it fair as it is?

Originally posted by "mikey"

Absoloutley!!!

Just taking my pinny off now after a morning washing hoovering shopping.

No seriously I do loads, my wife works as do I, so we both muck in. I do most of food shopping, cooking. She does most of the washing and ironing. I do all gardening, she does all the spending on her clothes.

No problem with it, I quite like cooking, takes my mind of things at work.

Three cheers for Mikey :lol: :lol: :lol:

Originally posted by "DaBouncer"

Just thought I'd add my 2 penneth to this mix and I wanted to know if anyone else thought it was fair.

I work full time in may day job and part time in the evenings, so on average I work a 50-60 hour week (in order for us to pay the mortgage, loans, bilss and save for the wedding next year).
My better half does most of the cleaning, cooking and washing of my clothes.
I do mow the lawn, do DIY stuff and the general man thingts around the house.

Am I taking advantage of her? Should I do more? Is it fair as it is?

You don't say if she works :wink:
Seriously though your arrangement sounds fair considering you have two jobs.

Originally posted by "Mo"

Just thought I'd add my 2 penneth to this mix and I wanted to know if anyone else thought it was fair.

I work full time in may day job and part time in the evenings, so on average I work a 50-60 hour week (in order for us to pay the mortgage, loans, bilss and save for the wedding next year).
My better half does most of the cleaning, cooking and washing of my clothes.
I do mow the lawn, do DIY stuff and the general man thingts around the house.

Am I taking advantage of her? Should I do more? Is it fair as it is?

You don't say if she works :wink:
Seriously though your arrangement sounds fair considering you have two jobs.
She does work full time!

Am I taking advantage of her? Should I do more? Is it fair as it is?

Shouldn't you be asking her???

In general it sounds okay to me, why not try offering to do some her bits every now and again?? Can it hurt?? She may offer to mow the lawn or cook something special because of the extra time on her hands.

Moon Maiden

Originally posted by "Moon Maiden"

Am I taking advantage of her? Should I do more? Is it fair as it is?

Shouldn't you be asking her???

In general it sounds okay to me, why not try offering to do some her bits every now and again?? Can it hurt?? She may offer to mow the lawn or cook something special because of the extra time on her hands.

Moon Maiden
I may just have to ask her. I don't want to be like mi dad used to be wi mi mam! He was a right male shovanist (spelling may be wrong) pig.

Paula must be a lovely youn girl

DaBouncer,
If you're bothered enough to ask, then you're probably not a male chauvinist pig. :lol:
My partner and I watched the same programme last night, and he said 'I know you do more around the house than I do, but these people have no respect for the people around them'. I gave him a massive hug for admitting that I do more around the house than he does, because just occassionally it gets on my nerves.
We do try to split everything up equally - I walk the dog twice a day and he does it twice a day. He mostly cooks, I do the dishes, he hoovers...ah, here's where it gets interesting - I clean every room in the house, he hoovers what little carpet we have :shock: . When I (rarely) cook, I wash the dishes. He sees no dust. He doesn't like stuff to be in total disarray, but it never occurs to him to tidy up. It must be a man thing. :lol: At least we both do our most hated chore together - grocery shopping. And neither of us would even consider ironing unless someone's getting married or being buried.
If I thought for one minute it was something he did purposely, I would kick his a** to the curb so fast he'd bounce. Instead, I know I can always get him to do something else for me, like walk the dog one of my goes, or take the car to the car-doctors, or fetch me home from a late meeting.

It's just not possible for the load always to be completely equal, but as long as one partner isn't trying to take advantage of the other, and no-one feels compelled to keep a running tally, it all works out.

My lovely young wife was a gorgeous thing i fell head over heels in love with her and had no regrets at all at getting married to her

When I was on part shifts and got home when she tried it came apart again immediately. We were a lovely young couple and so much in love.

She was so lovely and such a nice person, our little boy made our happiness complete at breakfast time before I went to work. We went to fetch the little boy from school across a busy main road at the end of Leppings lane.

Whilst I was at work, he got home and found his lovely mother was there and also his granmother too and his mother was waiting for him, his tea ready for him. She nalways went out to work and gave the us I had to thank her every day for helping us so much

Said she had confidence to face people, and when I was at work she took the little boy and went a walk in the park

Always at home to give us our meals, she went out at night to a show or visiting friends then perhaps calling for a drink somewhere in the country with some ladied she had known for many many years her brother lived close by and she used to visit him frequently in fact all her friends and relatives lived out there and they always congregated at someones house for a get together so that they could chat and dicuss old times with each other so that they were always up to date with the news and gossip because all their family are well known out there and if you mention their name to anyone who lives in the village they know who mean straight away and can talkto you about any of them with ease al there family are very gregorious and will always speak to whosoever will talk to them about any subject under the sun they are very well known catholics this has got to be one of the worst days of my life as just about everything has gone wrong that could go wrong and to top it all i have just had a bill for 72000pounds and i cant opay it so it depends on the law whether i go to jai or not as it is they who will decide on the matter

To top it all, she turned out to be a very special person and i didnt want to lose her so when i proposed i had my heart in my mouth for if she might turn me down


When our two children were babies, I used to make the feed, wash the nappies (the very large towelling ones) no disposables then, and every Sunday morning took them out in the pram for an hour.


what a wonderfull lady and oh so beautifull and sophisticated what a lovely person and so generous too i could spend the rest of my days with her and not regret one moment of it

Just a question Hal but what was she like BEFORE she had children???

Moon Maiden

Ta rara bumpteay our cats got muimps todays

My god!!! :shock:
Why on earth did you marry her then??? Ah well we live we learn

Moon Maiden

Perhaps it was the sex and they only started talking to each other after they were married.

Here's my situation...

I don't currently live with my girlfriend, so it's a little different. I work, she's a student (until a week on Thursday - yey)! I have a double bed, she doesn't - so I never stay at her house.

Anyway, I do almost all the cooking and washing up. I get drinks, etc... however, she'll do the drying up, my ironing and hang my washing up. When I'm at her house I do nothing just because that kinda even things out. I guess she feels cheeky making tea at mine, etc... (although she has done in the past).

We're moving in with each other this month. I think things will stay pretty much the same. I enjoy cooking. I don't mind washing up. I hate ironing and hanging clothes out. I don't mind hoovering and dusting, etc... I like DIY and doing any "manly" jobs (as DaBouncer puts it), so things will probably be evenly split - but I'll report back when I know for sure! :D

If ever there was a person who was so beautifull it is you my darling, when we are together it is just like heaven on earth.
You make my life so happy and contented, you are just like a tonic and so clever to be able to do the things that you can do.
Please do not ever leave me my sweetheart or I shall never recover and would spend my days in purgatory.

hey hey calm down hal, I don't think she meant any harm

Makes a change you being the peacemaker.

I'm a yankee doodle dandy a yankee doodle do or die

Hal, is there any reason for going off on one like that? I don't think she meant anything by it either mate.

I think you need to learn to be less touchy! :wow:

Have you ever been lonely> Have you ever been blue? Have you ever loved someone just as I love you?

What on earth has gone off here?

I've never seen hal post like this before.

Originally posted by "halevan"

Da Bouncer,
You need to mind your own business mate!!! I dont care for the lot of you so you can all SOD OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're entitled to your opinion mate and I'm not getting at you, but I think you've taken things too personally.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out! :P

omg what did I do setting this thread up. I expected the odd bit of needling but Hal old chap you've really lost it.

Poor Moonmaiden and DaBouncer are good guys I'm sure they didn't mean to upset you Hal.

way too far Hal, at your age you should know better than to talk to people like that, no one was having a go at you from what I've read. I think you owe a few apologies.

oh geneveive sweet genevieve,oh play to me gipsy the moon s up above just play me a serenade the one I love.

beside ctrhe caravan ,the camp fire burns I'll be your vagabond just for tonight

to be or not to be that is the question, do we now bear the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
I tell you timothy it is no joke please do not mention thyis again

If I should fall in love again I'd choose you from the stars again, I'd be just the same if I loved again I would still be in love with you

you are the blessed light of springtime that makes the lonely winter seem long

we are all over the place wherever the sea may happen to be rumble stiltkin

Originally posted by "halevan"

we are all over the place wherever the sea may happen to be rumble stiltkin
Hal.... as amusing as all these posts are, spamming isn't the best option to go for nor taking up Geoffs bandwidth with umpteen posts.
Perhaps say what you've got to say in one post... or don't say it! :banana:

bog off

Originally posted by "DaBouncer"

[quote="halevan"]we are all over the place wherever the sea may happen to be rumble stiltkin
Hal.... as amusing as all these posts are, spamming isn't the best option to

HAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD! Halevan has totally LOST IT! One mention by someone of why he married his first wife and thats it! First come the over the top, insulting 'tellings offs', then thats followed by post after post of pure rubbish! What the hell has happened! :lol: :lol:
Though it is VERY amusing...

Originally posted by "halevan"

bog off
You want me to: Buy One Get One Free??? :P

I haven't lost it mate, I've never had it, yes I have,I've had it up to here with the likes of you.

LOLOLOLOLOL :lol: :D :lol: :D

Yes Sir, No Sir, Three Bags full Sir. :D :D :D :D :D

I am worried about Hal, has someone hacked his identity or is it really him? His Avatar has gone
Can the Mods confirm?

Hal if you want a chat send me a Private Message and I'll pop around

It's as though someone has taken over his ID isn't it?

I haven't been coming here long, but I have never noticed Hal behave this way before.

Originally posted by "mikey"

I am worried about Hal, has someone hacked his identity or is it really him? His Avatar has gone
Can the Mods confirm?

Hal if you want a chat send me a Private Message and I'll pop around
I was thinking that... it does seem VERY out of character!
If I was a mod I'd have a look :wink:

yeah and the other night 'he' was on at about 12amish when im sure in one of his posts he said he went to bed at 10-11pm. hmmm

The posts by Halevan have been very strange indeed.

If it is an imposter, where is the real Hal? what has happened to him? :(
His avatar disappearing might not be relevant as mine too disappeared last week and I don't know enough to set another one up :roll:

Originally posted by "Mo"

If it is an imposter, where is the real Hal? what has happened to him? :(
Maybe someone should setup the the Hal-Files!
Start the investigation! 8)

Perhaps this is the real Hal and it was an imposter before.

Come back Hal, we miss you.

Originally posted by "halevan"

My lovely young wife was a gorgeous thing i fell head over heels in love with her and had no regrets at all at getting married to her

When I was on part shifts and got home when she tried it came apart again immediately. We were a lovely young couple and so much in love.

She was so lovely and such a nice person, our little boy made our happiness complete at breakfast time before I went to work. We went to fetch the little boy from school across a busy main road at the end of Leppings lane.

Whilst I was at work, he got home and found his lovely mother was there and also his granmother too and his mother was waiting for him, his tea ready for him. She nalways went out to work and gave the us I had to thank her every day for helping us so much

Said she had confidence to face people, and when I was at work she took the little boy and went a walk in the park

Always at home to give us our meals, she went out at night to a show or visiting friends then perhaps calling for a drink somewhere in the country with some ladied she had known for many many years her brother lived close by and she used to visit him frequently in fact all her friends and relatives lived out there and they always congregated at someones house for a get together so that they could chat and dicuss old times with each other so that they were always up to date with the news and gossip because all their family are well known out there and if you mention their name to anyone who lives in the village they know who mean straight away and can talkto you about any of them with ease al there family are very gregorious and will always speak to whosoever will talk to them about any subject under the sun they are very well known catholics this has got to be one of the worst days of my life as just about everything has gone wrong that could go wrong and to top it all i have just had a bill for 72000pounds and i cant opay it so it depends on the law whether i go to jai or not as it is they who will decide on the matter

To top it all, she turned out to be a very special person and i didnt want to lose her so when i proposed i had my heart in my mouth for if she might turn me down


When our two children were babies, I used to make the feed, wash the nappies (the very large towelling ones) no disposables then, and every Sunday morning took them out in the pram for an hour.


what a wonderfull lady and oh so beautifull and sophisticated what a lovely person and so generous too i could spend the rest of my days with her and not regret one moment of it

just noticed this post by Hal, the one originally slagging off his ex-wife which prompted the question of why marry her in the first place. As you can see it has been edited and changed somewhat DRAMATICALLY. I therefore think that it is still the same halevan, not a 'hijacker', but he must be a little touchy on that certain subject.

he's also edited most of his other posts like the one that laid into moon_maiden.

oh no! I hope hes OK!

Is a mod going to check this??? As a family board, I find these posts quite disturbing - more so that "The Shining"!!!

Check out the latest posts here:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/search.php?search_author=halevan

I can't say we've always agreed with each other, but it's just not normal for Hal to be like this... :?

Halevan's OK, had a PM from him, he was just a little upset with a few comments directed towards him.

Urged him to get back posting in his original funny way, not this weird shining stuff.

Lets wait and see, everyone welcome him back when he returns.

Originally posted by "mikey"

Halevan's OK, had a PM from him, he was just a little upset with a few comments directed towards him.

That's a shame. Those posts should be removed then IMO...

I have been finding that I have been doing all the housework while my husband is spending all his waking hours (it seems to me) chatting to you lot. So I have joined this forum to a) see what all the fun is about. and b) to hog the computer for a bit so he has no option but to get on with the washing up! Has he done the washing up? No, hes gone to bed. Arrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhh

This is a good thread cos it is affecting my life at the moment i have just split from my boyfriend cos he is so lazy i worked full time but he still expected me to clean the house not just everyday cleaning but cleaning up after him didnt really mind while i was working part time but not any more.

I don't think one can group two sections of society into two extremes with regards to anything, including housework. Some men will do it, others won't. This also applies to women. You shouldn't generalise.

Originally posted by t020
I don't think one can group two sections of society into two extremes with regards to anything, including housework. Some men will do it, others won't. This also applies to women. You shouldn't generalise.

Oddly enough I agree with this sentiment. Shame that, I agree with t020 just when he leaves the forum.

Listen, he'll be back. Or at least he'll be viewing and not posting! He'll be one of the new breed of lurkers!

Come out and show yourself !!!

Originally posted by Mamma
I have been finding that I have been doing all the housework while my husband is spending all his waking hours (it seems to me) chatting to you lot. So I have joined this forum to a) see what all the fun is about. and b) to hog the computer for a bit so he has no option but to get on with the washing up! Has he done the washing up? No, hes gone to bed. Arrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhh
Oooooh dish the dirt. What's his handle.... we'll grill him for ya! :lol:

Tricky one this- it has been an issue in our house many times. My boyfriend works long hours and it's very physical work and I'm at home looking after the kids- I think it's fair enough that I do the bulk of the housework. However there are times like, say, when the kids have been ill and kept me up all night that I could do with more support- he's very good at pointing out what needs doing (in his opinion, like cleaning the windows, whereas I think it's more important to have a clean kitchen/bathroom etc) so I say if it bothers you that much do it yourself!

Having said that, he's much more involved in the kids bedtime routine these days and I can see that it must be so tempting to just veg out in front of the tv when he gets home because he is so knackered. Also it must be so difficult being a so called 'new' man especially when his work environment is so male/macho (he works in a foundry).

Originally posted by DaBouncer
Oooooh dish the dirt. What's his handle.... we'll grill him for ya! :lol:

Err, Mamma??? I'd guess, but just a guess mind, that it might start with D?

now this thread is just getting ridiculous - I must step in for those poor, decent fellows who have been maligned here.

One of the things that attracted me to my missus was her untidiness! When we first met she pushed open her bedroom door (with some effort) and mumbled something sheepish about how she was just in the middle of a big clearout.

What she meant was that the floor was completely covered in objects to a depth of about 18 inches - including clothes, a plate of cold toast, six crusty mugs of tea, half a dozen musical instruments etc. etc.

Whilst she was embarrassed I was delighted - a woman after my own heart. It also meant I wouldn't have to spend three days tidying up my room which was in an identical state before inviting her over to mine!

I couldn't defend blokes who aren't willing to do a fair share of the work - but too often it seems to be the women who decide the standards and then harp on about the failure of men to keep up. (provocative hat on)

My general attitute is that life is too short to worry about the state of the kitchen floor - unless it's sticky or smelly or something actively bad like that.

Is this a good time or a bad time to say that for ten years I have paid someone else to do my housework

I have enough on doing the garden and the washing and ironing and cooking and shopping

I certainly dont have time to hoover or dust or clean windows or any of that and if i did have time I wouldnt do it cos I hate it.

I see it as redistribution of wealth - and why not?

I am with T020, you cant generalise about these things, but I know lots of people who are scandalised that I, as a woman, have a cleaner. That says more about them than it does about me though I think

x

I'd have someone in to do my cleaning in an instant if I could afford it.
My dad and stepmum do even tho they can't afford it really - it stops them from killing each other, and neither of them has time as each has several jobs to hold down.

Originally posted by Mo
Survey out today suggests that women still do the lions share of housework. Does this surprise you? It doesn't me. :cry:

I am full time stay at home mum so I expect to do most of the chores but if I went out to work I would insist on a 50/50 split.

I feel so sorry for women who work and then come home to do all the cooking, cleaning, shopping looking after children while their husbands/partners sit on their backsides watching tv. Why do they put up with it? :evil:

Come on fellas lets have your views :D

It's a hard life for a man!!!

Originally posted by LouiseB
Is this a good time or a bad time to say that for ten years I have paid someone else to do my housework

I have enough on doing the garden and the washing and ironing and cooking and shopping

I certainly dont have time to hoover or dust or clean windows or any of that and if i did have time I wouldnt do it cos I hate it.

I see it as redistribution of wealth - and why not?

I am with T020, you cant generalise about these things, but I know lots of people who are scandalised that I, as a woman, have a cleaner. That says more about them than it does about me though I think

x

Louise you do right, I would if I could.

I wonder are all cleaners women or do you get men who clean for others? Just a thought. :D

I'd never employ a cleaner. Not for financial reasons, but for privacy. Imagine being out at work and leaving your house in the hands of a cleaner! At the least they'd have a nosy through your stuff, at worst they would be thieving. Also, their cleaning standards probably wouldn't be up to those that I expect.

He is back and he is back in style

((T020))

i have a cleaner too. With a full time job and finishing a degree I just don't have the time to do it. Actually, I could probably make time but this is just another thing you can throw money at to make life easier.

Originally posted by t020
I'd never employ a cleaner. Not for financial reasons, but for privacy. Imagine being out at work and leaving your house in the hands of a cleaner! At the least they'd have a nosy through your stuff, at worst they would be thieving. Also, their cleaning standards probably wouldn't be up to those that I expect.
You could always install webcams and monitor him/her remotely plus make sure your crunchy socks are well hidden.

Seriously though, most cleaners from reputable firms are security vetted and if their standards were lower than yours you could simply change cleaners until you get one that suits.

My Husband is one of the few men that does put in alot of hard work into the house, actually I find myself thinking that he is too good to be true sometimes - he does most of the cooking in the house - and he is a fantastic cook he looks after both my children when I need to go out shopping or to see friends - and he helps me out at the drop of a hat, all I need to do is ask! he does ironing, washing putting up shelfs making electrical stuff work like the video and the cable tv infact if anything screws up he seems to know how to fix it! infact it annoys me how he just seems to be perfect I know this sounds silly but I find myself trying to pick arguements with him to create some sort of friction in our relationship a change from the norm because to be honest it gets boring having the perfect partner I know it's hard to believe but, I've read some of the comments here and I think I just wish he would turn round to me from time to time and say no I am not going to do that! He just seems to do everything I say - which is so infuriating and he seems to just live his life for me and considers me in his every action I find it so boring!

Although alot of you are complaining about your men - believe me when it's at the opposite side of the spectrum it's even more annoying - stick with your lazy men i'm sure it's more fun!

Tell you what, Blue, I'll trade you half of mine for half of yours...then we should get a better balance :lol:
I'm desperate for a random, outlandish act of love and thoughtfulness like chocolate or flowers...some hope. :?

Here's an example...
My beloved recently turned to me and said 'you know what, I'd love to take you to Rome for Valentines.' How lovely is that? How heartstoppingly sweet?
Only, in the very next breath he explained that the rugby was going to be in Rome and he was desperate to go and see it in person.
Leaving me to go and pull some young italian stud, I guess.:lol: :lol:

Originally posted by blue
My boyfriend is one of the few men that does put in alot of hard work into the house, actually I find myself thinking that he is too good to be true sometimes - he does most of the cooking in the house - and he is a fantastic cook he looks after both my children when I need to go out shopping or to see friends - and he helps me out at the drop of a hat, all I need to do is ask! he does ironing, washing putting up shelfs making electrical stuff work like the video and the cable tv infact if anything screws up he seems to know how to fix it! infact it annoys me how he just seems to be perfect I know this sounds silly but I find myself trying to pick arguements with him to create some sort of friction in our relationship a change from the norm because to be honest it gets boring having the perfect partner I know it's hard to believe but, I've read some of the comments here and I think I just wish he would turn round to me from time to time and say no I am not going to do that! He just seems to do everything I say - which is so infuriating and he seems to just live his life for me and considers me in his every action I find it so boring! And I feel like I am just bossing him around all the time - and no matter how I try he never argues with me and when it's me at fault he always says hes sorry when it's not his fault and then goes and does something nice like buy me some flowers or chocolates - so, although alot of you are complaining about your men - believe me when it's at the opposite side of the spectrum it's even more annoying - stick with your lazy men i'm sure it's more fun!

You obviously didnt kiss enough frogs first otherwise you would have appreciated your prince more

Can I have him if you have finished with him? He sounds wonderful

Blue, you are one sick puppy. As a less than perfect male I find your diatribe takes my breath away. What do you want? Would you be happy if you got it?