I've heard there is gonna be some new litter laws bought into sheffield meaning tough fines for offenders.

Maybe we will be able to prosecute the bin men that take the bag thats only slightly sticking out of the bin and throw it on the pavement so it splits and blows down the street.

Sheffield Council has successfully prosecuted three more people for littering the streets of the city resulting in the City’s Magistrates Court handing out fines and costs totalling £500.

Andrew Rowley of Standon Drive was spotted dumping some carpet off-cuts onto a pile of rubbish on Lochier Lane last summer. A local resident took his vehicle registration number, which was traced by the Environment Wardens and he admitted the offence. This was cited in court as being ‘a classic example of rubbish attracting rubbish’. Rowley was fined £150 and £50 costs.

Two other defendants did not attend court and were fined in their absence.

Colin Rogers of Herries Avenue deposited a cellophane wrapper from a cigarette packet on Southey Green Road last June. He was spotted by a warden and given a £50 fixed penalty, but did not pay – even after receiving a reminder.

Margaret Stocks of Foxglove Road, Wincobank discarded a piece of paper used to wipe her mouth after eating fish and chips on Sicey Avenue last August. She was given a fixed penalty notice, but also failed to pay despite receiving a reminder.

Rogers and Stocks both received £100 fines with £50 costs.

Councillor Harry Harpham, the Council’s Cabinet member for Streetscene commented: “I hope the message is getting out loud and clear to anyone considering polluting the city’s environment. With the support of the courts, we aim to make Sheffield a cleaner and greener city for all.”

It won't be made greener if the fines aren't collected! It's no use saying that so and so were given a fine but refused to pay. May as well not bother with the fines! I do, however, think that £50 is a tad harsh for a cellophane wrapper! A fiver would be more reasonable....again....if they consent to pay.

A fiver wouldn't be enough. There are too many people who can't be bothered to put their litter in the bin and its simply not good enough. I was brought up not to litter and can honestly say I never have in my life. I think its a filthy habit and shows laziness and complete disregard for others and property. Yet too many people quite happily litter the streets - I doubt anyone on here will admit it, just like with speeding, yet so many do it that I find it impossible to believe that no-one on here does.

My granddaughter is not four years old until next month, but even she, at that tender age knows that it's "naughty to throw sweetie wrappers on the floor!";

She knows that aweetie papers/ crisp packets etc either go in her own pocket or in nanna's pocket until we get to a bin, and then that's where they get put.

so if she knows at 4, that it's not the done thing, then I am darn that these adults, who threw papers/ wrappers/ whatever sh*t they happened to have in their hands at the time, also knew that it "wasn't on" to do it.

so why do it? idleness? ignorance? just plain don't give a.....?

As my mother used to say... "dont' care was made to care.

If we cannot appeal to the one braincell that they have, (owned on timeshare, presumably), then let's talk to these idiots in a language they understand, the language of $£$£$£.

If you throw crap on the ground then expect a fine. simple as that.
if you don't want a fine, don't litter. if these cretins do not understand that as a concept, then there's no hpe for anyone.
to these losers who litter and then grumble about the fine, I say two words. Tough cheddar!

fine 'em, and fine 'em good. make them learn the lesson that littering is unacceptable. I also advocate spot-fines, and if the culprit cannot pay, then cart them off to the cells until they can pay.

PT

Originally posted by t020
A fiver wouldn't be enough. There are too many people who can't be bothered to put their litter in the bin and its simply not good enough. I was brought up not to litter and can honestly say I never have in my life. I think its a filthy habit and shows laziness and complete disregard for others and property. Yet too many people quite happily litter the streets - I doubt anyone on here will admit it, just like with speeding, yet so many do it that I find it impossible to believe that no-one on here does.

Indeed!
I hate litter but due to my funding I can't give out litter fines, however there were 4 fines issued in the city centre yesterday and hopefully it will continue until people realise (which probably wont happen) that you can get caught and just don't litter in the first place!!!

Sorry have to agree littering is bad. I think it is how you are taught as a child, i was always made to put crap in my pocket or hold on to it till i could throw it away. I have done the same with my son.
Mind you chewing gum and dog poo are big problems too. Chewing gum no longer comes in wrappers that you keep and put it into when you have finished with it. And dog poo is the problem of the owner and though most of them are good at picking it up now (this was not something done in the past i have to say) if they fined the ones that don't it may change things. Mind you it would be nice to find a greener way of disposing of it than putting it in plastic bags as this just means it stays around for ages. An invention for anyone wanting one biogeragable dog poo bags, or paper ones that hold together til you put it in a bin.:thumbsup:

Hello all.. i am one of the enforcement officers from the council who is issuing the littering tickets to litter offenders. It is a very good idea and many tickets have been issued upto date.

Good on the council for following this through.

One thing though - if I spit my chewing gum down a drain, does that count as littering?

Anything that is dropped or deposited that leads to the defacement of the area constitutes as litter. You should put your litter in the bin or take it home with you.

Originally posted by cruella
Hello all.. i am one of the enforcement officers from the council who is issuing the littering tickets to litter offenders. It is a very good idea and many tickets have been issued upto date.

What is to stop people from giving you false names and addresses? I really don't see how you would know at the time whether they were telling the truth or not and after they had left you it would be too late.

You should have the power to fine the disgusting morons wo spit all over the pavements also.

Never saw any litter enforcement today in the city centre when there was a promotion on giving out bottles of water free, there were dozens of empty bottles scattered round all the way up the moor to the peace gardens.

Do they have to provide any people power to tidy up the mess made or is it ok cos it was sanctioned by the city council, there must have been thousands of bottles given out and if only a small percentage are thrown down it is still a lot of littering.

Companies such as coca cola who were giving the bottles out should have to contribute to street cleaning when they do promotions such as this.

I was walking through city centre yesterday and witnessed a grown man casually drop his burger wrapper on the floor. This totally wound me up as I was brought up to be tidy and respect my environment. What can be done to combat such lazy behaviour? I know they have introduced fines, but is that the way to go? I'm all for it especially if the money goes towards the cleaning of the city. Opinions please!!!!!

Originally posted by cruella
Hello all.. i am one of the enforcement officers from the council who is issuing the littering tickets to litter offenders. It is a very good idea and many tickets have been issued upto date.
Money that is collected from these fines is ploughed back into Environmental services and goes towards the running of the department. We now have a team of 8 Enforcement officers and we patrol all area's of Sheffield to issue fines to offenders.

>Quote:
>Originally posted by cruella
>Hello all.. i am one of the enforcement officers from the council >who is issuing the littering tickets to litter offenders. It is a very >good idea and many tickets have been issued upto date.

>Money that is collected from these fines is ploughed back into >Environmental services and goes towards the running of the >department. We now have a team of 8 Enforcement officers and >we patrol all area's of Sheffield to issue fines to offenders.

Good work - a large number of people expect someone else to clean up after them and don't mind living in a s***hole! In many cities in Canada the fine for littering is $2000!! Guess how much litter you see in those.....(none).

What would also be good are separate recycling bins for aluminium, plastic etc, similar to many European cities as this would also send out the right message.

Can I suggest the enforcement officers visit Ecclesfield park where they will see a load of schoolkids leaving all their litter strewn around after playing footy on most days of the week.

Cheers,
Mark.

Originally posted by cruella
Hello all.. i am one of the enforcement officers from the council who is issuing the littering tickets to litter offenders. It is a very good idea and many tickets have been issued upto date.

Thanks for the PM btw!!

Anyway, I do think fines are the way forward and hopefully the message will become clear that littering will not be tolerated. I was brought up with the understanding that littering was a very bad thing to do and I will pass this example on to my children (when I get round to having them). The thing is that I see many people out there casually dropping crap and not even battering an eyelid (most are adults who should know better).

Anyway, is there any chance that you could point us to any stats with regards to the amount of people that have been issued with a fine for this offence? Would be interested to see the numbers involved!!!

I find it really annoying too, it's not that hard to put something in a bin, especially in the city centre.

Morrisons carpark though, impossible - we ended up taking the rubbish home but I'm sure many wouldn't

Over 250 peolple have been fined ...and were later proscecuted for the offence...if they diddnt pay the fine!
'Its tough job..but someone has to do it!'

Originally posted by Dick Dastardly
I was walking through city centre yesterday and witnessed a grown man casually drop his burger wrapper on the floor.

You've echoed one of my concerns - it's adults, not just children, who drop much of the litter in the city centre.

It's probably a little too late for school education for the slob...how about forcing litterbugs to clean up the city's streets as part of a community service penalty?

Originally posted by cruella
Over 250 peolple have been fined ...and were later proscecuted for the offence...if they diddnt pay the fine!
'Its tough job..but someone has to do it!'

Thanks!

All I can say is well done and keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

Off topic... I see that Metallica are well and truly quoted on your sig. :thumbsup:

More litter bins I'd say. I know there's quite a lot in the city centre, but not as many in the slightly more suburban parts. It really annoys me when I have to keep hold of litter because there's not a bin handy.

Dropping litter is so annoying. I regularly have to clear crisp packets and other assorted rubbish out of my front garden because some thoughtless person can't be bothered putting it in the bin.

I get so cross with litterbugs. I often their litter up and give it back to them with a friendly " excuse me, I think you've dropped something!" Helpful little soul that I am! It usually embaresses them into putting it in the bin, will probably get a punch on the nose one day though!

is there any distinction made between biodegradable litter and not?
Would someone be finded the same for dropping a banana peel as a crisp bag?

I agree. Some people just don't care and drop rubbish anywhere. Smokers can be the worst. Have you ever noticed the number of fag ends lying about?

Originally posted by slimsid2000
I agree. Some people just don't care and drop rubbish anywhere. Smokers can be the worst. Have you ever noticed the number of fag ends lying about?
If smokers dropped their fag buts in a bin then I'm sure even more people would be complaining about the amount of burning bins.

The ignorance, arrogance, laziness, and selfishness that these type of people show is incredible. They expect other people to clear up or put up with their own mess. I've seen people throwing litter out of car windows, dropping it in the street, etc, and it really does disgust me.

Me too,especially when they are stood next to a bin.You feel like shoving it back in their faces!

I would think so as even thought it's biodegradeble it attracts rats and pigeons to it, but also if it's on the street it looks a mess and isn't a good excuse anyway.

ANYTHING is litter. It all leads to tdefacement of the city.

There's no is doubt about the fact that litter-fouling is getting completely out of proportion. Some people just don't care what they chuck on the pavement.

It goes through me to see all the empty beer and alcopop bottles on the ground outside the Leadmill on a Saturday morning.

Is it the latest fashion or something?

The official line is you should ensure your cigarette end is totally put out then bin it. Theres no excuses. If your not near a bin...put it in your packet...and if your in the car dont throw it out of the window...we send fines out for that too.

Originally posted by beckb
I often their litter up and give it back to them with a friendly " excuse me, I think you've dropped something!" Helpful little soul that I am! It usually embaresses them into putting it in the bin, will probably get a punch on the nose one day though!
I felt like doing exactly the same thing in Endcliffe Park recently - but refrained - fearing the punch in the face! A woman with her kids simply threw her empty plastic drink bottle on the floor - just yards from a bin! What example is that to her kids? There's no hope is there.

Not only litter and fag ends - chewing gum on the street really gets my goat.

instead of catching people why dont we employ people to keep sheffield clean

To pick up on a point in the op, will bin men be getting a massive raise in pay? If not, how are they going to pay the fines they acrue as a result of the mess thay leave behind; not to mention the fines for deliberately obstructing the pavement with wheely bins! :rant:

instead of catching people why dont we employ people to keep sheffield clean

Police Marksmen?

I wonder if it's a social thing. I was brought up to dispose of litter either in a bin or keep it in your pocket until you got home. Now, I live at Arbourthorne and the shops at lunchtime are a disgrace. The pupils come out of the shops, remove their sandwiches, chips, etc and blatantly throw their wrappers on the floor. Even more ironic is the fact that I've seen teachers, monitoring the shops for trouble, and they never batted an eyelid. I also have a friend - she's 55 years old - and she thinks it's extremely hilarious when she empties the contents of her ashtray out of the car window, along with any size/shape of rubbish that happens to be in her car whilst she's driving. No point in reporting her - just pray to god that one day an unmarked police car will be behind her. This kind of mentality gets passed on to the children and grand children too.

instead of catching people why dont we employ people to keep sheffield clean

Why should we all pay the salaries of additional people to tidy up the mess caused by a minority?

If I have litter I either find a bin or stick it in my pocket or bag until I do find a bin.

It's not rocket science to do this - but it does require an element of respect for your surroundings and your fellow citizens.

Which is sadly missing in some people.

If the only lesson that gets home to people is a stiff fine, then so be it.

If the only lesson that gets home to people is a stiff fine, then so be it.
Or better still the obligatory 200 hours of litter picking whilst wearing pink "I am a scumbag and am now repaying society for being thus" overalls. :thumbsup:

I completely agree with the fine's. Admittedly though, Sheffield seems reasonably litter free compared with other cities. Went to Leeds and Oxford recently, and they were both shocking for the amount of litter. Especially Oxford (there was even rubbish on the floors in the shops).

One thing that can be done is to work on a micro-level in relation to your own street. When I'm walking down my street I'll pick up any bits of litter I see and then put them in my own dustbin when I get home.

In an ideal world nobody would drop litter and all streets would be clean, but unfortunately we don't live in a utopia and people are d**kheads. I see it as a pragmatic way of combating litter, and people who were brought up to know that litter is wrong can do something about it in their own way.

:)

Sheffield Council has successfully prosecuted three more people for littering the streets of the city resulting in the City’s Magistrates Court handing out fines and costs totalling £500.

Andrew Rowley of Standon Drive was spotted dumping some carpet off-cuts onto a pile of rubbish on Lochier Lane last summer. A local resident took his vehicle registration number, which was traced by the Environment Wardens and he admitted the offence. This was cited in court as being ‘a classic example of rubbish attracting rubbish’. Rowley was fined £150 and £50 costs.

Two other defendants did not attend court and were fined in their absence.

Colin Rogers of Herries Avenue deposited a cellophane wrapper from a cigarette packet on Southey Green Road last June. He was spotted by a warden and given a £50 fixed penalty, but did not pay – even after receiving a reminder.

Margaret Stocks of Foxglove Road, Wincobank discarded a piece of paper used to wipe her mouth after eating fish and chips on Sicey Avenue last August. She was given a fixed penalty notice, but also failed to pay despite receiving a reminder.

Rogers and Stocks both received £100 fines with £50 costs.

Councillor Harry Harpham, the Council’s Cabinet member for Streetscene commented: “I hope the message is getting out loud and clear to anyone considering polluting the city’s environment. With the support of the courts, we aim to make Sheffield a cleaner and greener city for all.”

I hate it when politicians use the law to threaten people.

A fiver wouldn't be enough. There are too many people who can't be bothered to put their litter in the bin and its simply not good enough. I was brought up not to litter and can honestly say I never have in my life. I think its a filthy habit and shows laziness and complete disregard for others and property. Yet too many people quite happily litter the streets - I doubt anyone on here will admit it, just like with speeding, yet so many do it that I find it impossible to believe that no-one on here does.

You're too right wing. It ia far from the truth that conservatives are reserved and don;t like to hinder others.

I pick up any litter thats reasonably near my house; theres a nice grassed area next to the house and just across the road, any obvious litter there and I'll go and pick it up. Some people look at me funny when I do this but I think everyone should do it.

I hate it when politicians use the law to threaten people.

I hate it when filthy lazy people drop filth all over the streets.