http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13101516,00.html Would you believe WE have to pay to guard this piece of filth.

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Yes I know but it still sickens you to think of him having it off in there...I was not having a go at the system or those who work in it. They do a good job under difficult circumstances

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This is the type of news that gets the system in this country a bad name.Spook is right,the system does have a duty of care,but does it have to strech to a personal bodygaurd?

He has commited the worst crime imaginable and should be incarcerated with the lowest of the low.That should be enough.We pay a fortune just to house this scum in a high security jail,without paying extra to keep him 'safe'.

No-one was there to keep his victims safe,so why should he be given special treatment.The only 'treatment'he should get is from his fellow in-mates one nonces wing.

If he gets done over in prison,it should be seen as one of the things he has to live with the moment he lured those girls into his house.

I always find it a bit rich when prisoners, who are all criminals themselves, take it upon themselves to victimise another prison because they consider themselves morally superior to him (or perhaps more accurately because there are more of them than there is of him)

Of course he should be punished by being imprisoned but that does not excuse bullying.

Other prisoners wont pick on him as a matter of bullying,they will pick on him because of who he is and what he did.
In prison, the child killers and rapists are at the very bottom of the food chain.

Prison follows the old rule of survival of the fittest

The report states he was hit in the face by an inmate. That hardly constitutes enough for a personal bodyguard. Ridiculous.

Originally posted by owdlad
Yes I know but it still sickens you to think of him having it off in there...

Having it off in there? What does that mean? Are they allowing Maxine to spend the weekends at Wakefield prison now? The prison system really is getting cushy these days! :)

mojo that goes back to the old one about whats 17 stone and rode a derby winner







........Lester Piggots cell mate

£1127.00 per week to guard huntley,im sorry but it just takes the urine :D ,plus the girls parents are paying like us to keep him safe:loopy:

Originally posted by owdlad
mojo that goes back to the old one about whats 17 stone and rode a derby winner







........Lester Piggots cell mate

Ho Ho. That's a good one :D

The latest on this is that there are two gangs in Wakefiels
prison who are playing a game of 'first to kill the nonce wins'
It was on the radio today that inmates are taking bets on which gang are going to murder Huntley first.


The sooner the better,I say.

You have to remember that the prisoners in Wakefield are mostly murderers who have nothing to loose by killing Huntley and his life is certainly at risk in there.
Most will kill him just to get a name for themselves regardless of what he did and to be honest people like Huntley should be executed and that saves the tax payer like us and the young girls family to keep the scum bag safe.

They should keep him locked up 24 hours a day seven days a week for the rest of his life in solitary confinement and that will keep him safe and save us a fortune.

Originally posted by pauline
...plus the girls parents are paying like us to keep him safe...


I detest pathetic overreaction like this. £1100 a week, divided by a population of 60 million hardly means these girl's parents are paying through the nose.

As for whether he deserves protection or not, where do you draw the line? Either all prisoners are entitled to it, or none. You can't just stop some people from having it because you dislike them or their actions. How about if Huntley wasn't given protection, stabbed, and later found innocent of killing Holly & Jessica? What then?

I suggest that you don't participate in discussions like this, if emotions are going to interfere with logic.


Susie, detached

There does seem to be some hypocrisy here. The Government has a system in place where Huntley is protected but the same government says nothing about Guantanammo Bay where British subjects are tortured and detained without charge. British security services have colluded with the US in the kidnapping of "suspects" from other countries ie Pakistan, Gambia and they've been whisked off to Afghanistan, Diego Garcia and Guantanammo.
It stinks that Huntley is accorded this special degree of protection (and this is one case where therecn be no doubt of guilt) but innocent people are subject to these horrific abuses of human rights

Perhaps the body guard is prolonging his agony by keeping him safe from the rest of the scum in Wakefield. If these rival gangs succeed in topping him, his sentence is over. Keep him out of their way and let him rot in his own hell.

Holly and Jessica's parents will have their sentence of grieving for their daughters for the rest of their lives. Why should he get to finish his early?

how can any decent human being not overreact 2 such animals

I believe:

People see "paedophile", or "Ian Huntley", and all reasoning goes out of the window in favour of hysterical rantings.

Susie

I don't see how there is a way to 'over-react' to a paedophile.... what would you class as over-reaction ?

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I think it is wrong for fellow inmates of Wakefield Prison, many of whome are also murderers and may have killed more people than Huntly should feel morally superior to him.

I ddetest bullying in whatever form. Huntly is a murderer and deserves a long time in prison but he shouldn't be subjected to special harrasment which other prisoner don't receive. Surley he is no better and no worse than the other killers in there.

Originally posted by SusieP
I believe:

People see "paedophile", or "Ian Huntley", and all reasoning goes out of the window in favour of hysterical rantings.

Susie

So if a paedophile moved into your area,Susie,you would take him a cup of tea and picture of your kids round would you?

Anyone who would take pleasure in watching Ian Huntly suffer is not a lot better than Ian himself in my view.

I think the point is that there are other crimes which are either as bad as or worse than peodophilia. Of course nobody condones such actions which in extreme cases lead to murder. However, I don't see why child killers should be considered any better or worse than adult killers. Surley all human life is precious whatever age the victim.

Originally posted by uncleheed
So if a paedophile moved into your area,Susie,you would take him a cup of tea and picture of your kids round would you?


I hope I never implied that, and in fact I didn't - I resent the implication that I am some kind of paedosympathiser

Paedophilia is a terrible thing, I don't think anyone disputes that. All I am saying (over and over) is that people are wishing death on him, wishing prison rape on him and so on, and it's a terrible overreaction. Huntley is not the devil incarnate.

And really, he does deserve police protection - he's a vunerable prisoner, at risk of assault, abuse or worse. Do we change the law so that "everyone at risj deserves police protection (except paedophiles / Huntley / child murderers / unpopular people / man utd supporters")?


Susie

Originally posted by Sidla
Anyone who would take pleasure in watching Ian Huntly suffer is not a lot better than Ian himself in my view.

I have to agree with this..... What he did was an evil vicious (sp?) thing and he deserves to suffer, but if one were to attack him for his crime, would that not just bring them to his level & indeed cause the person themselves to be in trouble with the law.

I've got friends in a few prisons and no doubt about it Huntley will be killed and it will be reported as suicide on the news as usual.

Originally posted by pauline
£1127.00 per week to guard huntley,im sorry but it just takes the urine :D ,plus the girls parents are paying like us to keep him safe:loopy:

£1127 per week? Christ almighty!!!!

I could feed, clothe, keep an eye on, entertain, provide luxury for about 20 people for that. (Based on the fact that my three kids cost me less than £200 per week to keep in comfort.)

Lock him in his cell for 20 hours, let him out for his three basic meals and a cr@p under guard then lock him away again.

I'd rather my taxes were going to the NSPCC!!!
:loopy:

Originally posted by J-Blaze
I've got friends in a few prisons and no doubt about it Huntley will be killed and it will be reported as suicide on the news as usual.

You make it sound as if you're going to organise it personally!

let the girls parents look after him:D ,an eye for an eye :)

Fortunately our legal system doesn't work like that. If it did we would have either total chaos and anarchy or a police state.

We make the laws and we have to stick by them. Unfortunately every now and again you get someone like Huntley, Sutcliffe, Neilson, Brady, West or Shipman that are at the extremes of crime and raise anger to far higher levels. That doesn't mean that we should treat them any differently as we have the means to remove them from society. The only way to change it is to reintroduce hanging, but vigilantism is NOT a good thing.

Human nature is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

In earlier times I'm sure all the people on this forum who are baying for Huntley's blood would have been cheering down the goal end at public executions.

We've progressed a little since then, surely? Of course Huntley's little better than an animal, but turning him over to the mob to be torn limb from limb, or leaving him to the tender mercies of his fellow animals serving alongside him in jail can't be the answer.

If Ian Huntley and similar people should be put to death for their crimes then it is up to parliament to reintroduce the death penelty and for a crown court judge to pass the death sentence after hearing all the evidence in the case. It is not up to 'Razor Blades' Ron and 'Knuckles' Dave from E wing to take matters into their own, tatooed hands.

Originally posted by J-Blaze
Huntley will be killed and it will be reported as suicide on the news as usual. So are you suggesting that Fred West and harrold Shipman may have been lynched rather than topping themselves.

I think that Huntley is no worse than any other murderer! Each of the sick little ****'s have taken a life and ruined families!
BUT i dont think they should die themselves. Im glad Huntley has a bodyguard cos now he definately WONT be killed in prison (see J-Blaze's earlier post) because if his BG is being paid over £1000 a week then he aint just gonna be some 6ft tall/wide gorrilla (no offense to the big people out there!), he'll be a highly trained professional. So to get to Huntley they would first have to kill the BG.....and the gov. couldn't cover that up cos i doubt a double suicide would sit with the public.
Personally i find it amuzing that Huntley is going to live the rest of his life in the most fear you can imagine, EXPECTING to die!!
Im also pretty sure he'd be quite glad to be killed as he knows his life is over anyway!?!
Thats what i think anyway!