Hey guys, did a search and couldn't find anything....:|

What is trolling? :confused:

Am I being totally stoopid by not knowing this? (answers on a postcard please) :D

Wen someone deliberatly posts or starts topics to cause a reatction or argument. They say things in debates or conversations that are usually stupid and or offensive / nasty. Well thats my view on em.

Wen someone deliberatly posts or starts topics to cause a reatction or argument. They say things in debates or conversations that are usually stupid and or offensive. Well thats my view on em.

:thumbsup: cheers hunnie

What a stupid ignorant question, do you know nothing! are your brains made of mushy peas. Get off this forum at once you don't deserve to be here!

^^^^

Trolling!

MODS: THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE .. I DIDN'T MEAN IT :D

My blood was just starting to boil until I read the bold text.

Please don't do that to me again Fox you nearly made me cry :D

Oh Fox....that was brilliant ~ really funny, and very obvious that you weren't trolling.:hihi:

"Trolling" is historically a Polari word adopted in the '60's by the male homosexual community (don't think that they were gay in those days) to mean 'wandering the streets looking for a sexual partner'.
One engaging in this cruising could be described as a 'troll'.


Internet 'trolling' as described above would appear to have more to do with 'trawling' as in fishing in order to see 'what you can catch'.
Maybe mispelt originally, it has become accepted in its current form.

I always thought that trolling was the art of bringing up trolls?

Quite a few experts of this at Firth Park ; just look at the streets there when the shops are open.

"Trolling" is historically a Polari word adopted in the '60's by the male homosexual community (don't think that they were gay in those days) to mean 'wandering the streets looking for a sexual partner'.
One engaging in this cruising could be described as a 'troll'.


You seem to be know a lot about Trolling CGK, have you a "little" secret that you would like to share with us :confused:

You seem to be know a lot about Trolling CGK, have you a "little" secret that you would like to share with us :confused:

OK! You've outed me now ..........




































..... I used to listen to "Round the Horne" (http://stopmessinabout.co.uk/Download/Con-ShutUpYouFaggot.mp3)

"Trolling" is historically a Polari word adopted in the '60's by the male homosexual community (don't think that they were gay in those days) to mean 'wandering the streets looking for a sexual partner'.
One engaging in this cruising could be described as a 'troll'...
I hadn't heard the term used in that context before. It's a pity Bartfarst doesn't still have his custom title: 'Chief Forum Troll'. Oh, the irony... ;) .

I always knew you were not all you were made out to be. I suppose Kenneth Williams did it for you :o

Trolling it seems is another word thats bandied about for people who also post something they feel passionate about and other people disagree with so strongly that they feel the need to attack the poster without due cause.

It seems that a touchy subject or two can stir up a lot of anger in people that dont usually act like that as I have found on many an occasion on here :)

I wouldnt class myself as a troll, more a person who likes to shoot from the hip.

He only bites pillows at the weekends, in the week he's straight as a die.

He only bites pillows at the weekends, in the week he's straight as a die.

:hihi: :thumbsup:

Trolling = Take a look at slimsid2000's posts! :P

Trolling = Take a look at slimsid2000's posts! :P

:hihi: :hihi: To be fair to the bloke he has got good at it:thumbsup:

may i suggest you look at the trolling master's on here going under the names
( teabag youwhatref kathythebean starsparkle carcrash disco-cat kenh ) these people do not have there own views but have been been brainwashed by there liberal leftwing buddies so have to troll the internet .

may i suggest you look at the trolling master's on here going under the names
( teabag youwhatref kathythebean starsparkle carcrash disco-cat kenh ) these people do not have there own views but have been been brainwashed by there liberal leftwing buddies so have to troll the internet .

I disagree with a few names on the list you supplied- and I'd definitely say you are wrong about starsparkle as she has always posted her own views in regards to topics thats I've been in that I've seen.

may i suggest you look at the trolling master's on here going under the names
( teabag youwhatref kathythebean starsparkle carcrash disco-cat kenh ) these people do not have there own views but have been been brainwashed by there liberal leftwing buddies so have to troll the internet .

Stupid fool! How have u come to this conclusion?

may i suggest you look at the trolling master's on here going under the names
( teabag youwhatref kathythebean starsparkle carcrash disco-cat kenh ) these people do not have there own views but have been been brainwashed by there liberal leftwing buddies so have to troll the internet .
What a fantastic idea! Brainwashing by a central cult of liberal lefties into mindless trolling of the internet. Coercion into spreading their vile, do-gooder influence everywhere.

So, who's in charge of carrying out the brainwashing? Are secret messages left in one of the Guardian supplements? I think we should be told...

Being an old feller, I always thought a Troll was a mythical creature that stood under a bridge trying to catch children as they walked over it. My mother used to read me a story about Trolls, but can’t remember much more — except that the Troll went “trip-trap’” over the bridge!

Being an old feller, I always thought a Troll was a mythical creature that stood under a bridge trying to catch children as they walked over it. My mother used to read me a story about Trolls, but can’t remember much more — except that the Troll went “trip-trap’” over the bridge!

That was the 3 billy goats storey I think

That was the 3 billy goats storey I think

Thanks for that, Bambi. Being a Billy Goat Gruff ( and suffering from old age) I’ve probably got my fairy stories mixed up. But there was definitely a Troll in one of those stories! And a nasty Troll at that! I wonder, does the word ‘trolling’ come from that? I’ll check my dictionary.

Got it! See last entry, Scandnavian folk-lore. I just knew they lived under bridges!

troll1 (tr?l)

v., trolled, troll·ing, trolls.
v.tr.
To fish for by trailing a baited line from behind a slowly moving boat.
To fish in by trailing a baited line: troll the lake for bass.
To trail (a baited line) in fishing.
Slang. To patrol (an area) in search for someone or something: “[Criminals] troll bus stations for young runaways” (Pete Axthelm).
Music.
To sing in succession the parts of (a round, for example).
To sing heartily: troll a carol.
To roll or revolve.
v.intr.
To fish by trailing a line, as from a moving boat.
To wander about; ramble.
Slang. To patrol an area in search for someone or something.
Music. To sing heartily or gaily.
To roll or spin around.
n.
The act of trolling for fish.
A lure, such as a spoon or spinner, that is used for trolling.
Music. A vocal composition in successive parts; a round.
[Middle English trollen, to wander about, from Old French troller, of Germanic origin.]

troller troll'er n.
troll2 (tr?l)
n.
A supernatural creature of Scandinavian folklore, variously portrayed as a friendly or mischievous dwarf or as a giant, that lives in caves, in the hills, or under bridges.

may i suggest you look at the trolling master's on here going under the names
( teabag youwhatref kathythebean starsparkle carcrash disco-cat kenh ) these people do not have there own views but have been been brainwashed by there liberal leftwing buddies so have to troll the internet .

I think it's you Bob Ewell who's the one trolling in this thread.

What often happens on internet forums such as this one is that if trolls remain and become regular members of the site, they tend to mellow eventually. The initial intention of the troll is to cause as much reaction and controversy as possible, but as they come to feel like a regular established member, they settle for less inflammatory viewpoints.

This Thread (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=88657) is a classic example of trolling.

Of course not that I'd ever say things to get a reaction.:hihi:

Stupid fool! How have u come to this conclusion?

Beacuse they don't agree with his point of view - obviously....:|

may i suggest you look at the trolling master's on here going under the names
( teabag youwhatref kathythebean starsparkle carcrash disco-cat kenh ) these people do not have there own views but have been been brainwashed by there liberal leftwing buddies so have to troll the internet .

I'd agree with some of them, a bigger bunch of trolls you've never wish to meet. Well spotted that man

This Thread (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=88657) is a classic example of trolling.



I disagree.

It is a volatile subject with polarised viewpoints.

The thread starter is known from other posts to have an opinion on the subject.

.... but that original post is looking for opinions, uses articles from the national press and does not give any inflammatory comments.

He may be 'trolling' (who knows?) but the post as a 'stand-alone' post, is far from a 'classic troll'.

I'd agree with some of them, a bigger bunch of trolls you've never wish to meet. Well spotted that man

Err...no - you may disagree with them but they usual put forward well reasoned arguments - as do the likes of timo and LordChaverly from another viewpoint.

A "troll" will usually just make an assertion eg. "The country has gone PC mad because you'll get arrested if you fly the English Flag. This is because we don't want to upset Muslims."

I hadn't heard the term used in that context before. It's a pity Bartfarst doesn't still have his custom title: 'Chief Forum Troll'. Oh, the irony... ;) .
I'm afraid the mods stripped me of my coveted title as a punishment for speaking my mind about the disgusting nature of homosexual sex.

Err...no - you may disagree with them but they usual put forward well reasoned arguments - as do the likes of timo and LordChaverly from another viewpoint.

A "troll" will usually just make an assertion eg. "The country has gone PC mad because you'll get arrested if you fly the English Flag. This is because we don't want to upset Muslims."
So, based on your logic, is it trolling if somebody makes a sweeping assertion, irrespective of whether they genuinely believe in it?

I was under the impression that trolling was making deliberately exaggerated or inflammatory remarks just to wind up the easily-baited.

The two are very different - I, in case you haven't noticed, am regularly accused of trolling just for stating my opinion. It might be a fairly extreme opinion on occasion, but I do not exaggerate it.

Real "Trolling" requires intent.

It is usually a track record that will reveal a 'troll' as opposed to any individual post being recognised.

It can be revealed as the thread progresses, but it is not always clear.

Some innocents do, sometimes, suffer in the eagerness to accuse.

I'm afraid the mods stripped me of my coveted title as a punishment for speaking my mind about the disgusting nature of homosexual sex.
Oh dear. That's a shame. It was so accurate too. Never mind. Maybe you could have 'Pantomime Dame' instead? ;) .

So, based on your logic, is it trolling if somebody makes a sweeping assertion, irrespective of whether they genuinely believe in it?

I was under the impression that trolling was making deliberately exaggerated or inflammatory remarks just to wind up the easily-baited.

The two are very different - I, in case you haven't noticed, am regularly accused of trolling just for stating my opinion. It might be a fairly extreme opinion on occasion, but I do not exaggerate it.

Trolling is all about provoking a reaction. Whether or not the poster believes in what they're saying is irrelevant. If the intent is not to simply state their viewpoint but to provoke a reaction, that's a troll.

Trolling can take many different forms, but people who regularly use internet forums can usually spot them. The bored teenage boy kind of trolling is so blase and predictable that people can spot it a mile off, and such people are usually viewed with contempt by an internet regular.

Some trolling can be quite subtle though. Slimsid is a troll, but he's a good one because many people here seem convinced that he is actually a real person. The key to his success is that he's been patient and consistent with his assumed persona.

Trolling is all about provoking a reaction. Whether or not the poster believes in what they're saying is irrelevant. If the intent is not to simply state their viewpoint but to provoke a reaction, that's a troll.

Trolling can take many different forms, but people who regularly use internet forums can usually spot them. The bored teenage boy kind of trolling is so blase and predictable that people can spot it a mile off, and such people are usually viewed with contempt by an internet regular.

Some trolling can be quite subtle though. Slimsid is a troll, but he's a good one because many people here seem convinced that he is actually a real person. The key to his success is that he's been patient and consistent with his assumed persona.
I can't deny the logic behind your post.
However, two things spring to mind:

Firstly, is it not the intent of debate to promote exchange? That being so, is any challenging statement to be viewed as trolling?

Secodly, you assume that people think about the interpretation of their comments by all and sundry. Is it not possible that people can come out with their own genuinely-passionate views without any intention of winding up the 'opposites', but also without a care as to whether the troll-criers start hopping up and down on the spot?

I, for one, want to say it as I see it and give not a fig for the do-gooders who object.

Say what u mean, and mean exactly what u say. Don't be hypocritical along the way. Is what I believe.

For what it's worth, here is my two pence on 'trolls'. I do have my own definition of what is a troll. Though, for some people, they may see it differently.

Depending on the age of the person, and the reson and agenda of the reader. People come online for different reasons. I find it quite rude to sweep everything and anything which remotely promote a debate to be 'trolling'.

Yes, indeed, I saw a recent thread about child benefits which started by a Mod, which indeed had a 'trolling' nature, but it was well received, and the members kept it on form. Which I found quite refreshing to read for a change.

If a thread is deemed as trolling, as members we're also in control to ignore it. Or to let it die. For those that do want a debate, and it means exchange from two ways on the topic, then it is not trolling as such.

For myself, I do find it intriguing, and I do learn a lot about myself online, since I never knew of such 'passion' it drums up within myself, whenever I read certain topics, which I would never ever consider or thought about before.

There is a subtle difference between a genuine troll and someone who just has different opinions to the majority, and you can see that difference between say Bartfarst and Royjames. The former is a troll, the latter has non-mainstream views - he argues, but does not deliberately goad. I'm a veteran of forums and I can sniff out a troll from a mile off. The former displays all the classic signs, including whining that his 'free speech' is being curtailed when criticised. He also carefully picks out posts where he can make a sly point - including one recently where someone posted about her job and he made a sly and thoroughly unpleasant dig about the girl not earning very much. Claiming to have been in the military is also a common troll trait (as are most Walter Mitty style claims, and they will always claim to live in the best part of town or have a great career). The digs are usually very well constructed when they come from a seasoned troll, and they will often claim to know nothing about trolling and even act quite hurt when accused of being one.

Depends if we find a troll to be a nuisance or not. Another forum I go on has strict rules on not feeding them, but we do all like to give them secret bad rep just to see how low they can go before being banned. It's great fun when they are trolls from one particular troll club forum, which I have managed to infiltrate, so I know when they are planning an attack. Sometimes its fun feeding them, it can liven things up. Personally I like doing it, but you do have to realise they exist to offend and that's not a game everyone likes playing.

The other problem is that while a troll can be entertaining, they of course can seriously offend some members who will simply be driven away, and a forum will lose members, probably very good ones. They can also stifle true debate as they hijack threads on a mission to offend and upset.

I have heard the phrase trolling on various threads within this site and as a newbie to the forum I have just one question ?

What the hell does it mean ?:help:

Find out here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=114287)! :D

It means deliberately going out of your way to write inflammatory comments which are either stupid or ignorant well that accounts for about 90% of the users on this forum then, there i've given you an example happy trolling

But sometimes- being controversial can also be seen as trolling as well.
There is a fine line methinks.

a troll posts something for a reaction

doesnt matter if its good or bad they want a reaction

the best thing to do with a troll is ignore them
trolls HATE being ignored :)

a troll posts something for a reaction

doesnt matter if its good or bad they want a reaction

the best thing to do with a troll is ignore them
trolls HATE being ignored :)

They hate billygoats as well.. :hihi:

I have been a member of SF for some weeks now. I have been banned temporarily on two occasions (no I am not boasting). My main crime seems to be trolling.....but as yet nobody has given me a satisfactory explanation as to what the term means!
It seems to me that there are certain individuals on this forum who only have to utter the words trolling and relate it to someone and they are immediately banned or their thread disappears. Why is this?

For your Information... Here (http://curezone.com/forums/troll.asp)

Basically, it's posting irrelevant and/or offensive crap on a thread in which you have no real interest. It could also be when you profess a (usually controversial) view which you don't really hold, in an attempt to stir up those who are really interested in the debate.

For your Information... Here (http://curezone.com/forums/troll.asp)
Thanks....I found that very interesting. I am now though totally at a loss as to why anyone could ever associate the term with me. But thanks anyhow.

....I am now though totally at a loss as to why anyone could ever associate the term with me. But thanks anyhow.Without going back through over two hundred of your posts, so am I.

Perhaps it may be as well to be aware though that some SF-members appear to have rather thin skins and are liable to be more easily offended than you may realise... It might be judicious to bear this in mind when discussing a subject? ;)

Without going back through over two hundred of your posts, neither can I. ...
Maybe his/her trolling posts have been deleted, which is why you wouldn't be able to find them... ;)

I've read many of your posts superlative and frankly am only surprised you've not been banned more frequently. On the last occasion, referring to me as a ''stupid liitle moron'' certainly didn't help. Not so much to do with me having thin skin as you being blatantly abusive.
I think your general style is not helping either, you tend to make repetive posts, appear to have little regard to whatever other people say and all too frequently descend into personal abuse. You'll either learn from it or not as you see fit.

Without going back through over two hundred of your posts, so am I.

Perhaps it may be as well to be aware though that some SF-members appear to have rather thin skins and are liable to be more easily offended than you may realise... It might be judicious to bear this in mind when discussing a subject? ;)
Maybe I am the victim of the hypersensitivity of others as you suggest. If so thats a problem they have got that I pay for!

I've read many of your posts superlative and frankly am only surprised you've not been banned more frequently. On the last occasion, referring to me as a ''stupid liitle moron'' certainly didn't help. Not so much to do with me having thin skin as you being blatantly abusive.
I think your general style is not helping either, you tend to make repetive posts, appear to have little regard to whatever other people say and all too frequently descend into personal abuse. You'll either learn from it or not as you see fit.
Hey.....you didnt mention trolling that time.....thats new! Actually it was insignificant little moron and was in response to a disguised insult from yourself. Ruby was right.

Trill, trill, trill, trill ... oh no wait, that's a budgerigar.

Till, till,till ... no, that's a farmer.

Toll, toll, toll ... nope, that's the Humber Bridge owners.



I'm sure I used to be able to do this...

Maybe I am the victim of the hypersensitivity of others as you suggest. If so thats a problem they have got that I pay for!
Calling someone a moron and having that person report you is not hypersensitivity on their part.

Maybe his/her trolling posts have been deleted, which is why you wouldn't be able to find them... ;)Well, as I intimated, I haven't searched for any... I admit that one or two of Superlatives posts that I have seen have been, shall we say, rather vehemently expressed on occasion but compared to the efforts of some fools that I've read, I'd hardly term them as trolling.

But then I'm not a moderator and have no responsibility for any of the content of this forum apart from my own postings, if I had, my POV may have been different, though I doubt it. ;)

Well, as I intimated, I haven't searched for any... I admit that one or two of Superlatives posts that I have seen have been, shall we say, rather vehemently expressed on occasion but compared to the efforts of some fools that I've read, I'd hardly term them as trolling.

But then I'm not a moderator and have no responsibility for any of the content of this forum apart from my own postings, if I had, my POV may have been different, though I doubt it. ;)

Watch this space Pseudonym......

Hey.....you didnt mention trolling that time.....thats new!
I mightn't have mentioned trolling but I'm sure I gave you fair warning that your behaviour might result in a ban.

I mightn't have mentioned trolling but I'm sure I gave you fair warning that your behaviour might result in a ban.
There you go you see.....YOU have given me a warning.....dont you get it? I shall say no more on this subject. I rest my case!

There you go you see.....YOU have given me a warning.....dont you get it?

No, I don't and you're doing exactly the same sort of thing. If you have some sort of problem with me, please tell me what it is and I can explain myself. Thanks.

I rest my case!...and your case is what, exactly?

There you go you see.....YOU have given me a warning.....dont you get it? I shall say no more on this subject. I rest my case!
Yes, he warned you that the mods might ban you if you persisted in being offensive. What's your problem with that?

You have the definition of an internet troll now, so can we assume that you now know exactly what behaviour to avoid in future?...

Remember Superlaxative, "Its better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."

Where have I heard that before? :confused:

Does this practical demo help with your understanding of the word "Trolling"?

Hey.....you didnt mention trolling that time.....thats new! Actually it was insignificant little moron and was in response to a disguised insult from yourself. Ruby was right.

Its generally considered poor form to edit your posts significantly without referring to it as you have done above. I'm not really sure what you mean by referring to disguised insults or what 'Ruby' has got to do with anything

Mod Note: I take it that this question has now been answered. I will also add that members are banned for a reason and not because Moderators have nothing better to do.

what is trolling?

Being a nuisance I think, going off topic, and winding peeps up

It tends to be a favourite pastime of newbies who think they can make their mark early by getting peoples backs up. I can recall three today :rolleyes:

I can think of one.

sometimes when I do a 'search' but can't think of the exact wording I expect the forum message to read......Did you mean.............. :hihi:

Being a nuisance I think, going off topic, and winding peeps up
Going off topic is the worst, the other day there was a thread about caving. It was very interesting, all about the discovery of Titan Pot in the peak district.
I remember years ago we used to always say that would be a big didcovery in that area one day.
Does anyone else remember the 60's when we used to go out caving and climbing, they were the days :thumbsup: (:hihi: :hihi: )