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mandym
24-05-2006, 10:06
hi ,
my rottweileer ozzy is a lovely dog great temperament the only problem is he keeps cocking his leg in my dining room,he is house trained and he only does the peeing when im not with him i.e, if i leave him. when i am with him he goes and pees outside?when i leave him in the dining room with the patio doors open he will cock his leg up ,and not only in one place against radiator,up my rocking chair on my other dogs bedding ,any ideas?
my other dogs are bitches but both spayed,so it cant be to ward of any other males.he is just two and yes i clean thoroughly with bleach to eliminate his smell so im struggling,

Lindseyw
24-05-2006, 10:12
Have a read of this :

http://users.visi.net/~lfleck/grreat/booklet/housebk.html

Strix
24-05-2006, 10:15
this sort of behaviour is usually a territory marking excercise that may be associated with anxiety - which would explain him doing it when you leave him. If you have left him with the doors open, he will be trying to defend your territory for you.

We had a jack russell who did exactly the same thing. The very simple cure was to leave, and watch him through the window, then go back in and chastise him immediately when he did it.

I suspect your dog may be able to see you through your patio door though, so you may try leaving for a couple of minutes, returning, and praising him if he has 'been good', or pointing out his 'mistake' and saying 'NO!'. Put him outside straight away. Begin to make your absence longer, and repeat the same excercise.

Or you could try cage training. Very effective, as dogs do not like to soil their own bed, but if you are using him as a guard dog, I don't suppose a cage is going to be of use

mandym
24-05-2006, 10:47
this sort of behaviour is usually a territory marking excercise that may be associated with anxiety - which would explain him doing it when you leave him. If you have left him with the doors open, he will be trying to defend your territory for you.

We had a jack russell who did exactly the same thing. The very simple cure was to leave, and watch him through the window, then go back in and chastise him immediately when he did it.

I suspect your dog may be able to see you through your patio door though, so you may try leaving for a couple of minutes, returning, and praising him if he has 'been good', or pointing out his 'mistake' and saying 'NO!'. Put him outside straight away. Begin to make your absence longer, and repeat the same excercise.

Or you could try cage training. Very effective, as dogs do not like to soil their own bed, but if you are using him as a guard dog, I don't suppose a cage is going to be of use

many thanks for info he is not a guard dog just a family member that is as you say territorial,im gunna try the paper training again,and the crate training i dont think would work cos its every time he is left to his own devices whether im out of the room 5 mins or 45 min maybe it is stress he is protective,plus i wouldnt feel good about putting him in a crate he is a great dog and a very large one .

Strix
24-05-2006, 11:27
A crate isn't a prison, it's an indoor kennel.

Dogs feel more secure in a confined space, hence their favourite places usually being under things like desks and tables.

I wasn't keen on the idea, but our (considerably smaller) dog was having one for the car for his own safety, so we put it in the house, and he's taken to it like a duck to water.

If you want to give it a try before buying, youmay be able to borrow a cage via this forum.

I can't lend you Brude's cage though, as it would probably stick on your dog's head ;)

amandakm
25-05-2006, 12:46
My male dog Pip likes bleach, he is a small papillon (butterfly dog). He likes to use our downstairs loo only he's a bit short. I kept the door shut so then when, 'miffed' which is anytime someone looks at him the wrong way, he piddled up the door. I obviously used to reach for the bleach but he developed a liking for it and licked the cleaned area repeatedly and peed up it again. My husband had the mad idea of using very diluted bleach on a few patches of wall in the garden and i swopped to an antibax cleaner indoors, it worked no more indoor peeing, he now just uses 'hard stares'onus lower mortals.

parcher
18-06-2006, 10:45
I don't know if you are still having this problem, but a warning against using bleach to clear up. It contains stuff that smells like urine so by cleaning up with the bleach, you are actually intensifying the smell and making it an even better place to pee! Use biological washing powder instead because that digests the bits in the urine that causes the smell. Actually, when my cats do it, I also sprinkle a bit of pepper over it - definitely puts them off!

scoop
22-06-2006, 16:57
many thanks for info he is not a guard dog just a family member that is as you say territorial,im gunna try the paper training again,and the crate training i dont think would work cos its every time he is left to his own devices whether im out of the room 5 mins or 45 min maybe it is stress he is protective,plus i wouldnt feel good about putting him in a crate he is a great dog and a very large one .

I can second Strix's reccomendation about crate training we bought a crate to help house train our dog and it had worked within a couple of weeks, in fact we dont need it anymore! It's yours for £40.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1245011#post1245011

Rachy
23-06-2006, 10:29
you can buy a pet behaviour spray its smells rotten my dog kept peeing on bathroom floor so sprayed the floor on it n she wudnt go in cos it smell rank n put her off hehee

Star_light
30-07-2007, 18:29
when he wee's look in his eye and say bad boy rub his nose in it and put him outside it usally works whhen they find out there oing to get wee up there nose and that we put them outside for a reason to WEE

katkin
30-07-2007, 20:12
Defintely steer clear of bleach and disinfectant- better to use a proprietary urine remover such as Urine Off or one of the other brands the pet superstores stock - I know they are more expensive than household cleaning agents but trust me, they are a whole lot more effective at breaking down the enzymes that keep the smell present, plus they will not harm your pet, so he is likely likely to return to scent mark the same spot.

I didnt pick up whether your dog has been castrated? It's quite common for entire dogs to cock their leg indoors once they reach teenage/ adulthood and one way of dealing with this is to have your dog neutered.

Oh - the rubbing the dog's nose in it is not adviseable- it is an old fashioned punishment method and anyone with a rottie or similar large breed should avoid harsh punishment as a dog that is treated harshly could quickly turn on it's owner- not because it is aggressive but because these breeds do not respond well to negative reinforcement.

flamesfann
01-07-2008, 02:55
I have a 10 month old Jack russell...he pees on the floor and in his cage....he licks it up when he pees in his cage

Strix
01-07-2008, 04:22
do you make sure you know when your pup last drank and so needs to go out?

How long are you leaving him alone for?

Plain Talker
01-07-2008, 10:11
when he wee's look in his eye and say bad boy rub his nose in it and put him outside it usally works whhen they find out there oing to get wee up there nose and that we put them outside for a reason to WEE

a stupid, cruel, and ineffective method of house training.

you can't rule a dog by fear, you have to use the pack mentality, and the dog's desire to please you as pack leader.

So star_light, how succesfully did your child's potty training go, then, if you rubbed your child's face into its dirty nappy every time you wanted to instruct it to pee in the potty?

Sorry? what did you say? You would not have been so cruel as to do that to your child?

Then Why ON Earth use that method on a dog?