As a Crookes resident, I thought I would type it into wikipedia to see what it had on there. I ended up at a website for local Sheffield history and found this interesting page on The Crookes Laundry Murder 1922! I don't have enough posts to put the direct URL for these links (stupid rule!) so you might need to add the 3W's and put a dot in at the start for these to work. the address is:

chrishobbs.com/crookesmurder.htm

I also didn't know that the old Sound As A Pound site used to be a cinema, the Crookes Picture Palace.

chrishobbs.com/crookespicturepalace.htm

Being a student means I've only lived in Crookes a couple of years, so all this stuff makes interesting reading!

Some interesting stuff . Also on the index page is details of a Dr John Blakely of the Crookes Practice (on School Road and my current Dr's) who was accused of Murder in 1934.

Has anyone else got any more pictures or info on Crookes ?

Also I agree with you - it is a stupid rule that you can't post weblinks until you have made 15 posts.

Some interesting stuff . Also on the index page is details of a Dr John Blakely of the Crookes Practice (on School Road and my current Dr's) who was accused of Murder in 1934.

Has anyone else got any more pictures or info on Crookes ?

Also I agree with you - it is a stupid rule that you can't post weblinks until you have made 15 posts.

Yeah... check out St Thomas' Church and 'The Nine O'Clock service'

http://www.picturesheffield.com/database_search.php

Your surgery wasn't always known as Crookes Practice. In the 50's and 60's it was one of those sole doctor surgeries - Dr Greenwood - with those old-fashioned radiators. On the junction of School Road and Leamington Street was another surgery, that of a Dr. Irwin.

The old Sound as a Pound site, certainly was the former Crookes Picture Palace. I remember going to some Saturday morning matinees buying "a drink on a stick"!

I grew up in Crookes, then moved when the students took over!
Lived on Pickmere Road for 5 years, It was the site of a quarry, then the road was built in the early 1900's and the Crookes tram sheds were then built.
Now it's the site of a Catholic church.
Thought you may like to know that :)

I also know Chris Hobbs, nice bloke.
His son is a mate of mine and shares the same name

I grew up in Crookes, then moved when the students took over!
Lived on Pickmere Road for 5 years, It was the site of a quarry, then the road was built in the early 1900's and the Crookes tram sheds were then built.
Now it's the site of a Catholic church.
Thought you may like to know that :)


I lived on Pickmere Road for 28 years, and my parents still do (on the non-church side). The tram sheds were used by the council for storing tractors, JCBs etc back in the 70s/80s.

There was a very interesting book on the history of Crookes released a few years ago, I don't know if it's still available.

Edit: Doh! - read links before posting. :roll:

That murder has had a mention on here before, so if you use the search facility, you may get more info :thumbsup:

I lived on Pickmere Road for 28 years, and my parents still do (on the non-church side). The tram sheds were used by the council for storing tractors, JCBs etc back in the 70s/80s.

There was a very interesting book on the history of Crookes released a few years ago, I don't know if it's still available.

I used to live on Cobden Place ..... in a true hovel ..... , but the mention of Pickmere Road reminded me of a morning when I woke up on that road. I was at college doing my 'A' levels at the time at Norton (only place that did Latin you see), but had been out the night before for a few 'hop sqaushes' (no lectures in the following morning you see).

Our 'house' had an electric token meter and it was my turn to buy one. I can honestly say I woke up having bought the thing on my way back home. Scared the living daylights out of me.

I miss living up there, and don't get a chance to keep up with my old friends from round there. Please tell me that people still call it 'Crookes Village' ...... it just wouldn't be right otherwise .......

The tram service either ran to Crookes terminus or a shorter destination to Crookes, School Road. This later was replicated with the buses. The final stop for alighting was at the top of Sackville Road and then the tram/bus would loop round on to Pickmere Road where the crew would have their break.
I remember those tram sheds when they were operative though not sure when the transition was to house Council vehicles, though I know that is correct?
I recall in the early 60's, the Crysanthemum Society holding a meeting in the tram sheds and their distinguished guest to open proceedings was 1960 Olympic Silver and Bronze medallist from Cudworth, Dorothy Hyman.
A village? Once, in the days of horse and cart! It certainly isn't now, with the weight of traffic passing through. There are some roads, mind, that are down to the cobbles, that remind us of the village legacy!

There was a very interesting book on the history of Crookes released a few years ago, I don't know if it's still available.
The Wikipedia article says:

"Good sources for pictorial histories of Crookes are ‘Crookes: a history of a Sheffield Village', 1982, [Crookes Residents’ Association] and 'Crookes Revisted', 1989, [Crookes Local History Group]."

I have a copy of the latter, and it was a good read. Learnt lots from it. Not least, if there is an Old Grindstone, then where is the New Grindstone? :)

There used to be one across the road, opposite the bottom of Bute Street, called the Original Grindstone, the landlord of which was called Vernon Hookway. That was demolished when those Council flats now standing, were built.

Someone told me a long time ago that there was a murder on Forres Road in the 1970's. I've *never* seen anything about this - has anyone else any information?

iI'm sure I read a link somewhere between Crookes and Ruth Ellis, the last woman hanged in England. (1955)

I seem to recall that David Blakeney, the ex-lover she killed in london was the son of a doctor who had a practice, for a time, in the Crookes area.

PT

There used to be one across the road, opposite the bottom of Bute Street, called the Original Grindstone, the landlord of which was called Vernon Hookway. That was demolished when those Council flats now standing, were built.

And the Original Grindstone was opened after the Grindstone ......

http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/oldoriggrindstone.htm

my oh lived on pickmere road then moved to toftwood road

lived in crookes area. brighton terrace road and pickmere road in the 1950.s.remember dr.blakeney. he had a surgery in a large old houe at the corner of school road and i think harcourt road - could be wrong with this road.remember ru nning down at about 11.00 pm when i was 14 for him to come and see my brother who had had an epileptic fit.inthoe days we didn.t know much about them and the dr came out and saw to my brother.he was very helpful.i remember he had a son david who was the lover of ruth ellis.believe ehe was a racing driver.

lived in crookes area. brighton terrace road and pickmere road in the 1950.s.remember dr.blakeney. he had a surgery in a large old houe at the corner of school road and i think harcourt road - could be wrong with this road.remember ru nning down at about 11.00 pm when i was 14 for him to come and see my brother who had had an epileptic fit.inthoe days we didn.t know much about them and the dr came out and saw to my brother.he was very helpful.i remember he had a son david who was the lover of ruth ellis.believe ehe was a racing driver.

hi was mushroom lane and western park in crookes

hi was mushroom lane and western park in crookes

Weston Park and Mushroom Lane are both a fair way from Crookes. I would say they would be more Crookesmoor/Crookes Valley as in the adjacent park.

And the Original Grindstone was opened after the Grindstone ......

http://www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk/Business/pubs/oldoriggrindstone.htm

I have a distant relative whose family were the landlords of the Grindstone Inn and later moved to "Pearl Villas" which became their family home. She always thought that the house had been used/occupied by pearl button producers.
I was born when my parents lived on Toyne Street but, we moved away when I was 3 as my father spent too much time in the pub opposite!
Duffems

lived in crookes area. brighton terrace road and pickmere road in the 1950.s.remember dr.blakeney. he had a surgery in a large old houe at the corner of school road and i think harcourt road - could be wrong with this road.remember ru nning down at about 11.00 pm when i was 14 for him to come and see my brother who had had an epileptic fit.inthoe days we didn.t know much about them and the dr came out and saw to my brother.he was very helpful.i remember he had a son david who was the lover of ruth ellis.believe ehe was a racing driver.

The doctor's name was BLAKELY.

See the article on Chris Hobbs' site:
http://www.chrishobbs.com/johnblakely.htm

The house, which is still a doctors' surgery, is on the corner of School Road and Conduit Road.

Hugh

The doctor's name was BLAKELY.

See the article on Chris Hobbs' site:
http://www.chrishobbs.com/johnblakely.htm

The house, which is still a doctors' surgery, is on the corner of School Road and Conduit Road.

Hugh

No it isnt .. the house that was Dr Blakelys surgery was the big detatched house on the corner of School Road/Lemington street .. its now been converted into Flats. :)

iI'm sure I read a link somewhere between Crookes and Ruth Ellis, the last woman hanged in England. (1955)

I seem to recall that David Blakeney, the ex-lover she killed in london was the son of a doctor who had a practice, for a time, in the Crookes area.

PT
That's right P.T it was the crookes practice mentioned earlier in the thread. Seems to be a bit of an unlucky building. Dr's murdering pregnant lovers and the like.

No it isnt .. the house that was Dr Blakelys surgery was the big detatched house on the corner of School Road/Lemington street .. its now been converted into Flats. :)

I'm not subscribing to this because the odd numbers on School Road are on the left-hand side going up and so 203 can't be the one you suggest for that reason.

Maybe the numbers wrong then :D .. I was always told it was the big detached house growing up as a kid, maybe the locals were wrong it was just what I was told growing up in the area :)

In the late 40's, Dr Irwin was our doctor, but I can't remember where his surgery was nowadays, I remember him buying a Standard Vanguard when they came out.
Opposite Crookes Endowed School was a post office on the corner, where tram conducters took their takings after the end of their shift, when the driver dropped them off, we would jump on the back of the tram and get a free ride to the tram sheds.
We also got empty beer bottles from the neighbours & returned them for either a penny or threepence each at the Ball Inn, we would get enough to go to the local pictures & have an ice cream each, then we'd go and get a bag of chips for free from the chippy across from the pictures where my mother worked. it was owned by a Canadian couple called Strawsons at that time.
There wasn't many cars around in my day, so the milkman & coalman delivered with a horse and cart, needless to say the neighbours were always around to get the horse droppings for their gardens.
I lived on Tasker Rd, it was still cobblestones until the council put tar over them around 1950 ? when I visited in 1990, I was surprised to see the old street with cars parked on either side of the road.
Every Sunday evening there was a lantern sevice at a hall on the right hand side of School Rd, afterwards we got free tea and biscuits, kids in my day were never in any danger of anything, not like kids of today.
Every bonfire night, there was a big bonfire on some spare land between Brick St & Carson Rd, those were the good old days.

In the late 40's, Dr Irwin was our doctor, but I can't remember where his surgery was nowadays, I remember him buying a Standard Vanguard when they came out.
Opposite Crookes Endowed School was a post office on the corner, where tram conducters took their takings after the end of their shift, when the driver dropped them off, we would jump on the back of the tram and get a free ride to the tram sheds.
We also got empty beer bottles from the neighbours & returned them for either a penny or threepence each at the Ball Inn, we would get enough to go to the local pictures & have an ice cream each, then we'd go and get a bag of chips for free from the chippy across from the pictures where my mother worked. it was owned by a Canadian couple called Strawsons at that time.
There wasn't many cars around in my day, so the milkman & coalman delivered with a horse and cart, needless to say the neighbours were always around to get the horse droppings for their gardens.
I lived on Tasker Rd, it was still cobblestones until the council put tar over them around 1950 ? when I visited in 1990, I was surprised to see the old street with cars parked on either side of the road.
Every Sunday evening there was a lantern sevice at a hall on the right hand side of School Rd, afterwards we got free tea and biscuits, kids in my day were never in any danger of anything, not like kids of today.
Every bonfire night, there was a big bonfire on some spare land between Brick St & Carson Rd, those were the good old days.

Dr Irwin's surgery was the one referred to by DUDEY, at the corner of School Road/Leamington Street which would have had an even number - opposite what was once, Jewitt's Bakery.
At Irwin's time, the doctor practising at the top of Conduit Road, in what is now Crookes Practice, was Dr. Greenwood and a later doctor at that surgery was Simon Barley, whose son Matthew, is a world famous cellist.

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Jewitt's Bakery.

Goodness, that's a blast from the past, didn't they have a shop on the main road in Crookes at sometime ?

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Jewitt's Bakery.

Goodness, that's a blast from the past, didn't they have a shop on the main road in Crookes at sometime ?

Yes, I think they used to share it with Fletchers but not sure what's there now?
Bread and dripping was never better than on a Jewett's loaf, bought at the back door of the bakehouse!

Not sure what year this surgery was converted into flats but after Dr.Irwin and before it ceased, there was another doctor who practised there called Dr. Hayes - whom I believe later succumbed to an alcohol-related illness.
Do you recall that name?

anyone remember dr flynn? his surgery was on crookes (main road). anyone remember the candy cabin?
(oh wants to know he is called andrew jenkinson)

The Candy Cabin was quite near to Dr.Flynn's surgery on Crookes and I recall was owned by a proprietor called Beech. I think Flynn had a reciprocal locum arrangement with Dr. Greenwood from the aforementioned practice at 203 School Road. Also nearby was the once S&E Co-operative.
Is that "Jenks" asking you to do his "scout" work?

I remember Jenks.. Is he still with us? He seemed old when I was a kid but maybe he wasnt that old.

I remember Jenks.. Is he still with us? He seemed old when I was a kid but maybe he wasnt that old.

I think so. I have spoken with him on Crookes within the past year and he was fine. For those not "in" on this character, he was the scoutmaster at Crookes Congs Scouts - was it 144 Group?

Not sure because I wasnt in the scouts .. we used to hang around the hall with some girls :D

Dr Irwin's surgery was the one referred to by DUDEY, at the corner of School Road/Leamington Street which would have had an even number - opposite what was once, Jewitt's Bakery.
At Irwin's time, the doctor practising at the top of Conduit Road, in what is now Crookes Practice, was Dr. Greenwood and a later doctor at that surgery was Simon Barley, whose son Matthew, is a world famous cellist.

Hi Chairboy
Dr. Irwin brought me into the world 59 years and 11 months ago.
My Mum thought the world of him. Although I don't know why!
I used to know Robert Slack whose family owned Jewitt's I think
Regards
Geoff

Hi Chairboy
Dr. Irwin brought me into the world 59 years and 11 months ago.
My Mum thought the world of him. Although I don't know why!
I used to know Robert Slack whose family owned Jewitt's I think
Regards
Geoff

Hi Geoff - They say the best are from The Jessop!:D

Robert Slack - a very enthusiastic and able golfer?

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The Candy Cabin, Also nearby was the once S&E Co-operative.

Opposite the co-op was a butchers shop that sold horse meat in the 40's, anyone remember the hot vimto from the drink shop just below the Ball, there was a cobblers shop on the corner of Mulehouse and the main road, that was the tram stop too, on the opposite side of M/House was a carpet shop.

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The Candy Cabin, Also nearby was the once S&E Co-operative.

Opposite the co-op was a butchers shop that sold horse meat in the 40's, anyone remember the hot vimto from the drink shop just below the Ball, there was a cobblers shop on the corner of Mulehouse and the main road, that was the tram stop too, on the opposite side of M/House was a carpet shop.

I remember the Vimto shop, I think it was a temperance bar - sarsparilla etc.
Much has changed on that side of the road but it was about where there is a hairdresser's now. I vaguely remember the carpet shop but one I do recall was Ballins and also Wells's 'pricey' toy shop.

I remember Jenks.. Is he still with us? He seemed old when I was a kid but maybe he wasnt that old.

Royston H. Jenkinson, alias "Jenks" is indeed still going strong at 80. He has a little stall in the Castle Market selling stamps and postcards. It's in the gallery, opposite the café, and he has some nice reproductions of old Sheffield postcards.

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I do recall was Ballins and also Wells's 'pricey' toy shop.[/QUOTE]

Wells's was the place for bikes and spares also, but very expensive as you say, we didn't shop there as my eldest brother worked for Langsett Cycles, but had to after he got called up for the forces.

[QUOTE=skippy;3911350] I vaguely remember the carpet shop but one I do recall was Ballins ...

An old directory shows "Louis Ballin, draper" on the corner of Crookes and Sackville Road, but in the 1950s there was also an "H. Ballin" who had a draper's shop on Langsett Road, somewhere near Jack Lee's herbalist/sarsparilla shop - must have been a relative.

Wells's was the place for bikes and spares also, but very expensive as you say, we didn't shop there as my eldest brother worked for Langsett Cycles, but had to after he got called up for the forces.

I once had a Langsett cycle. There was a nearby alternative to Wells and that was Ernie Oldham who had a shop about where the Original Grindstone was just below Coombe Road.
Wells later moved to the bottom of Mulehouse where the (soon to move) private dentist is.

I once had a Langsett cycle. There was a nearby alternative to Wells and that was Ernie Oldham who had a shop about where the Original Grindstone was just below Coombe Road.
Wells later moved to the bottom of Mulehouse where the (soon to move) private dentist is.

You didn't have a "Wiggy's gas pipe" then? eeeeh, ah dunt know! ;)

The Candy Cabin was quite near to Dr.Flynn's surgery on Crookes and I recall was owned by a proprietor called Beech. I think Flynn had a reciprocal locum arrangement with Dr. Greenwood from the aforementioned practice at 203 School Road. Also nearby was the once S&E Co-operative.
Is that "Jenks" asking you to do his "scout" work?

i think you may have got the wrong "jenks"

Here's a photo of old "Jenks", former scoutmaster and retired industrial chemist, at his stall in the Castle Market. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/JenksSept2005.jpg

:hihi::hihi::hihi: thats not my jenks

Hmmm.... He's known as "Jenks", lives at Crookes and was a scoutmaster. Is there another one? :confused:

i am married to andrew jenkison who lived in crookes but wasnt a scout master but know as jenks

The "Jenks" in the photo looks like the one I remember from Crookes scouts in the 1950s/60s. Good to know that he's still going strong! :)

:hihi::hihi::hihi: thats not my jenks

Sorry Locket, but this is the Jenks most knew.

Here's a photo of old "Jenks", former scoutmaster and retired industrial chemist, at his stall in the Castle Market. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ksSept2005.jpg

Thanks hillsbro.

no problem. lol. he may be related you never know lol

Interesting about Crookes. My Gran lived at 65 Forres Road from when it was built around 1910. Great Grandad was a French Polisher working on may of the buildings in Sheffield. I remember (1950s)the Candy Cabin, tram sheds and post office. Was there a Chinese Laundry as well? I also seem to remember the doctor as Sullivan. There was another sweet shop on Carson Road. Had a 'Five Boys Chocolate' sign in the window. My mother tells of how the Wesley Hall on the corner of Carson Road used to be full on several levels each Sunday. I have a picture on my 2 uncles having a joint wedding there in the 40s. We used to drive up from Broomhill area and I seem to remember a stocks in the middle of the road.

Hi inessesx. - Just to answer a few points, not sure how long you have been away, but the tram sheds is now St.Vincent's Church? Wesley Hall - can't confirm your attendance story but can believe it. I think those days are long past. Sweet shops on corners are also a thing of the past with "Cocoa" and "Five Boys" ads as they've all been converted into property flats.
Pop Meeson + cats! for example, at the end of Longfield Road, became flats (fire there last year).
Carson Road changed with several flats being built. Amy Street disappeared.
May I recommend the site www.picturesheffield.com where once you see the keyboard index, click on a letter, suburb/street etc and scroll down to whatever? There are some excellent photos of things "once upon a time."
Chinese laundry - I can remember one near where .925 Jewellery at Broomhill is. If you were on the number 8 Inner Circle bus when it was then a double decker - if it stopped at the lights at Broomhill (esp. at night when the laundry light was on) you could see into the laundry. For some reason, it always held fascination.
The name Dr. Sullivan rings a bell. Why not, we've had Irwin, Flynn and Hayes. A bit like the Irish rugby pack!

Chinese laundry - I can remember one near where .925 Jewellery at Broomhill is...

Yes - this was Lai Chung, whose laundry survived into the 1970s.

Here's a photo of old "Jenks", former scoutmaster and retired industrial chemist, at his stall in the Castle Market. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/JenksSept2005.jpg


awww its nice to see him again .. in my mind he hasnt changed at all .. he's always looked old to me :)

Yes - this was Lai Chung, whose laundry survived into the 1970s.

I remember reading that there was once a chinese laundry opposite the punch ball .. and someone was murderd there and burried in the basement .. dont know how true this is.

I remember reading that there was once a chinese laundry opposite the punch ball .. and someone was murderd there and burried in the basement .. dont know how true this is.

There are two pubs; The Punch Bowl and The Ball Inn. I hadn't heard of the murder story but having put my thinking cap on, I vaguely remember a Chinese Laundry - about where Mr. Ben's is (?) - so that would be opposite The Ball.

I read it was where the pizza place is now opposite the punch ball .. I think where going back a long time ago now ..Im racking my brains trying to remember where I read it!!

Im racking my brains trying to remember where I read it!!

It's on this site somewhere Dudey, I read about it a few months ago, I think it was around the area of Bole Hill Rd from memory.

It's on this site somewhere Dudey, I read about it a few months ago, I think it was around the area of Bole Hill Rd from memory.

Cheers Skippy .. for a moment there I thought I'd dreamt it .lol :D

Dudey, I just punched in Chinese murder Crookes on the search and it came up, A Piece of off - beat Sheffield History, not clever enough to find out what page it's on though.

http://www.chrishobbs.com/crookesmurder.htm

Yes as you say Dudey - Opposite the Punch Bowl.

awww its nice to see him again .. in my mind he hasnt changed at all .. he's always looked old to me :)

Here's another photo of "Jenks". http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/JenksSept2005-2.jpg

His 80th birthday is some time this month; I hope to get to see him soon.

http://www.chrishobbs.com/crookesmurder.htm

Yes as you say Dudey - Opposite the Punch Bowl.

Cheers for that mate .. very interesting.. so it wasnt the pizza place but the charity shop.:)

Here's another photo of "Jenks". http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/JenksSept2005-2.jpg

His 80th birthday is some time this month; I hope to get to see him soon.

Aww cant believe he's still on the go ..bless him:)

Hello all, a big thanks to skippy over in NSW for the link to this site,i have just read all your contribitions over 4 pages about Crookes, and I look forward to contributing, lived on crookes from about 1954 to 1975., the chinese laundry I remember was directly across the road from our house at 137 Crookes which was where the off license was, then just above that was the chinese laundry then the newsagents. the laundry was owned by the parents of my old school friend at Crookes Endowed Chim Kam Chu. Also the sweet shop was spelt Kandy Kabin. ..........over and out ........ owlinaus

In the late 40's, Dr Irwin was our doctor, but I can't remember where his surgery was nowadays, I remember him buying a Standard Vanguard when they came out.
Opposite Crookes Endowed School was a post office on the corner, where tram conducters took their takings after the end of their shift, when the driver dropped them off, we would jump on the back of the tram and get a free ride to the tram sheds.
We also got empty beer bottles from the neighbours & returned them for either a penny or threepence each at the Ball Inn, we would get enough to go to the local pictures & have an ice cream each, then we'd go and get a bag of chips for free from the chippy across from the pictures where my mother worked. it was owned by a Canadian couple called Strawsons at that time.
There wasn't many cars around in my day, so the milkman & coalman delivered with a horse and cart, needless to say the neighbours were always around to get the horse droppings for their gardens.
I lived on Tasker Rd, it was still cobblestones until the council put tar over them around 1950 ? when I visited in 1990, I was surprised to see the old street with cars parked on either side of the road.
Every Sunday evening there was a lantern sevice at a hall on the right hand side of School Rd, afterwards we got free tea and biscuits, kids in my day were never in any danger of anything, not like kids of today.
Every bonfire night, there was a big bonfire on some spare land between Brick St & Carson Rd, those were the good old days.

Hi Skippy. I remember going to the Sunday lantern slide shows. I believe we had to pay a penny admission. This was a sort of Sunday School, the shows had a religious theme.
The building was the original Wesley Hall and still owned by the Methodists until it became a Catholic Church some twenty years ago. A new Catholic Church was built on the site of the tram sheds and the building is now flats, like everything else.
The trams sheds had a coke stove at the front, we would sometimes buy a penny loaf from the bakers and toast it there.

If you could not find any bottles to get the deposit back on, you could always take a pile on newspapers to the chippy and get a bag of scallops

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Jewitt's Bakery.

Goodness, that's a blast from the past, didn't they have a shop on the main road in Crookes at sometime ?

Jewitt's used to deliver bread to the local shops in an old Jowett van, the bread was notoriously hard. Like all bakers the decline started when Jacksons brought the first sliced bread over from Manchester, but they survived at the bakery at the bottom of School Road 'til app. 1987. You will only need one guess to know what is built on the site.

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where the off license was.

Was that at the opposite side of a driveway to what we called the drink shop, where we bought hot Vimto ? Allsops and Hancocks lived just below it.

inessex. my family lived 75 forres road around 1925-1930 also aunt and family lived at no.73 for many years around that time.
i used to go to wesley hall on sundays with my mother upsatairs i remember for the services.

Hi Skippy. I remember going to the Sunday lantern slide shows. I believe we had to pay a penny admission. This was a sort of Sunday School, the shows had a religious theme.
The building was the original Wesley Hall and still owned by the Methodists until it became a Catholic Church some twenty years ago. A new Catholic Church was built on the site of the tram sheds and the building is now flats, like everything else.
The trams sheds had a coke stove at the front, we would sometimes buy a penny loaf from the bakers and toast it there.

If you could not find any bottles to get the deposit back on, you could always take a pile on newspapers to the chippy and get a bag of scallops

The former RC Church was on School Road and was called "The Church of Our Lady" and the new one on Pickmere Road combined that, with the once St. Vincent's Church on Solly Street, to form the new St.Vincent's Church at Crookes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/image_galleries/radio_sheffield_archive_photos_gallery.shtml?33

Top part of Northumberland Road towards the Goodwin, methinks?
Snow as it once was!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/image_galleries/radio_sheffield_archive_photos_gallery.shtml?33

Top part of Northumberland Road towards the Goodwin, methinks?
Snow as it once was!

WOW! Fantastic picture .. I remember those days so well ..it was great as a kid but I would hate it now days :) Today we only need an inch of snow and everythings at a slow or stand still ..god only knows how we managed back in them days .lol. :D

What a fantastic picture of the snow! I'e been in Sheffield 19 years, Crookes for 12, and I've only experienced heavy snow a few times, in my first few years here. People used to say "Just wait till you see a proper Sheffield winter!". I'm still waiting...:) Someone told me that in the winter of 1947 all the fences, walls etc on the Bole Hills had vanished under the snow, and that on the roads leading down towards there, off Crookes, there was snow drifted to the bedroom windows. Anyone remember Crookes in that winter? (I wasn't around then :))
It's fascinating to read about people's memories on this thread. I think there used to be a Crookes local history group - it did 2 books - has it disbanded?

The winter of '78 into '79 was a bad winter with snow at Crookes and other hilly parts - but it was made worse by the gritters' strikes which meant that many schools had to be closed because the fuel tankers couldn't get to schools, either for slippery roads or haphazardly parked cars, to deliver oil for the radiators. So many events had to be cancelled.

The Candy Cabin was quite near to Dr.Flynn's surgery on Crookes and I recall was owned by a proprietor called Beech. I think Flynn had a reciprocal locum arrangement with Dr. Greenwood from the aforementioned practice at 203 School Road. Also nearby was the once S&E Co-operative.
Is that "Jenks" asking you to do his "scout" work? Was the Kandy Kabin opp the flats below The Ball?

Was the Kandy Kabin opp the flats below The Ball?

Yes, Roughly where a plant shop/greenhouse shop is now, just below the chemist.

just found out my mum in law went to crookes endowed school. her name was patricia birkhead she has a brother peter. they lived on elgin street. her dad colin used to play in a dance band possible the empress. he also played football for crookes congregational football team.

Yes, Roughly where a plant shop/greenhouse shop is now, just below the chemist.
I posted a thread a few weeks ago and got no response when I asked if anyone remembered K & N Pokes sweet shop on Crookes.I think that became Kandy Kabin.
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just found out my mum in law went to crookes endowed school. her name was patricia birkhead she has a brother peter. they lived on elgin street. her dad colin used to play in a dance band possible the empress. he also played football for crookes congregational football team.

I've found your mum-in-law's family in the 1973 Kelly's Directory, at 26 Elgin Street. She might remember next-door neighbours the Sigsworths at No 24 and Robinsons at No 28.

[QUOTE=CHAIRBOY;3908677]
The Candy Cabin, Also nearby was the once S&E Co-operative.

Opposite the co-op was a butchers shop that sold horse meat in the 40's, anyone remember the hot vimto from the drink shop just below the Ball, there was a cobblers shop on the corner of Mulehouse and the main road, that was the tram stop too, on the opposite side of M/House was a carpet shop.

My memory is that the horse meat shop was just the other side of Coombe Road. I remember buying meat from there as a kid (for the dog), but the smell of it cooking was vile. I believe the owner committed suicide.
We always used to call your drinks shop the Herbalist's, there was a small Court of cottages to the left of it ( I used to deliver papers there). It was knocked down and the Council flats built.
The cobbler's on Mulehouse was called Slack's, they had a son called Robert.

No one has yet mentioned one of Crookes' local institutions - Leapers the chemist - just past the bottom of Stannington View. Open all hours and packed to the rafters with all things medical - much of it years out of date. Sometimes called Dr. Leaper, because of his vast knowledge of medcines, he would prescribe what the Doctor would usually give you without the inconvenience of the waiting room - a particularly useful service in pre NHS days, when a visit to the Doc's cost five bob. I can still remember the unique smell of his shop.

Hi Chairboy
Was the co-op next door to or close to the Cinema, Saturday matinees and all?

Hi Chairboy
Was the co-op next door to or close to the Cinema, Saturday matinees and all?

Hi Geoff. There were two! There was one by the cinema in the centre of Crookes and there was another one, now flats! - just above where the Kandy Kabin was that we've been talking about - in fact, they must have been almost next door.

For a picture of the one you were meaning go to - www.picturesheffield.com
Get the keyboard index - click C. Scroll down to Crookes Picture House and Bingo! (Not quite, but you have the location of those famed matinees!)

Perhaps I should point out that the Co-op is now where the picture house was. Previously, the store was at the other side of Newent Lane. There became a supermarket either side of the Lane, but the Co-op moved across to take up an existing liquor licence.

[QUOTE=skippy;3911350]

My memory is that the horse meat shop was just the other side of Coombe Road. I remember buying meat from there as a kid (for the dog), but the smell of it cooking was vile. I believe the owner committed suicide.
We always used to call your drinks shop the Herbalist's, there was a small Court of cottages to the left of it ( I used to deliver papers there). It was knocked down and the Council flats built.
The cobbler's on Mulehouse was called Slack's, they had a son called Robert.

No one has yet mentioned one of Crookes' local institutions - Leapers the chemist - just past the bottom of Stannington View. Open all hours and packed to the rafters with all things medical - much of it years out of date. Sometimes called Dr. Leaper, because of his vast knowledge of medcines, he would prescribe what the Doctor would usually give you without the inconvenience of the waiting room - a particularly useful service in pre NHS days, when a visit to the Doc's cost five bob. I can still remember the unique smell of his shop.

I can't add much to that Elmambo. The years pass and the memory plays tricks. Certainly, Leapers has a ring of recollection but don't remember much more. Where Baxters is now, top of Toyne St., that was owned by Willis Oxley. At the Coombe Road end, I remember a cobbler's shop by the Old Grindstone plus a barber's shop (Charlie Scruton). I have problems picturing departed landmarks in the city centre, of ten years ago or less - unless it had a specific memory. Meesons at the end of Longfield Road, was legendary for that cat stench and where we bought "Jubblies" after playing football. Jubbly was roughly a prismatic shaped frozen orange drink.

Elmambo - Further enlightened whilst having my morning swin, I was told the horsemeat butcher you referred to, hung himself!

What a fantastic picture of the snow! I'e been in Sheffield 19 years, Crookes for 12, and I've only experienced heavy snow a few times, in my first few years here. People used to say "Just wait till you see a proper Sheffield winter!". I'm still waiting...:) Someone told me that in the winter of 1947 all the fences, walls etc on the Bole Hills had vanished under the snow, and that on the roads leading down towards there, off Crookes, there was snow drifted to the bedroom windows. Anyone remember Crookes in that winter? (I wasn't around then :))
It's fascinating to read about people's memories on this thread. I think there used to be a Crookes local history group - it did 2 books - has it disbanded?

My mother who llived with her mother-in-law on Toyne Street certainly remembers the Winter of 1947 as she gave birth to my brother at the beginning of January 1947. Her uncle who was about to depart for South Africa had to buy wellies and heavy clothing to visit her in hospital.
After a couple more Winters in Crookes with 2 young children mum had enough and (like most young couples on the housing waiting list of that time) she was given a brand new Council house at Hackenthorpe where the Winters were just as bad!

[QUOTE=Elmambo;

No one has yet mentioned one of Crookes' local institutions - Leapers the chemist.

Yes he was a legend, I remember going there to buy liquorice root, but the best thing there was the proper liqourice which we called spanish juice for some reason.
One of my brothers delivered papers for a paper shop down near the grindstone, the owner had a big lump on his neck from memory.
Was it Scrutons barbers shop that was at the top of Sackville Rd ? I remember that the bloke there used to run a long candle over peoples hair to get any hairs he had missed if you had a bob cut.
Great memories, keep em coming.

[QUOTE=Elmambo;

No one has yet mentioned one of Crookes' local institutions - Leapers the chemist.

Yes he was a legend, I remember going there to buy liquorice root, but the best thing there was the proper liqourice which we called spanish juice for some reason.
One of my brothers delivered papers for a paper shop down near the grindstone, the owner had a big lump on his neck from memory.
Was it Scrutons barbers shop that was at the top of Sackville Rd ? I remember that the bloke there used to run a long candle over peoples hair to get any hairs he had missed if you had a bob cut.
Great memories, keep em coming.

No, I think you are thinking of KENYONS at Sackville.
Scrutons was in the block with Broomheads by the Old Grindstone, I recall?

Just remembered PATIENCE WALL - A wool shop.

Was it Scrutons barbers shop that was at the top of Sackville Rd ? I remember that the bloke there used to run a long candle over peoples hair to get any hairs he had missed if you had a bob cut.

This was called "singeing" and cost 4d extra at Garnetts in Hillsborough. See posts #2 and #4 here:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=367607&highlight=singeing

Sorry Locket, but this is the Jenks most knew.

Here's a photo of old "Jenks", former scoutmaster and retired industrial chemist, at his stall in the Castle Market. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/JenksSept2005.jpg

Thanks hillsbro.
I called to see "Jenks" today. He was dead chuffed to know that his photo is on the Forum, and he sends his good wishes to all who know him. His 80th birthday was last week, 11 August, and his family are helping him celebrate the event with meals out etc.

I called to see "Jenks" today. He was dead chuffed to know that his photo is on the Forum, and he sends his good wishes to all who know him. His 80th birthday was last week, 11 August, and his family are helping him celebrate the event with meals out etc.

aww bless .. nice one hillsbro :thumbsup:

remember the chip shop at the bottom of bolehill lane. c0uld get a bag of chips for 1.1/2p think scraps were free. fountains a bread shop. think. harrops next to meesons. beer off across the road from harrops. jones top of springvale road.a general store. dairy bottom of duncan road. mrs basketers little shop on duncan road. any memories>

I had a conversation only this morning in which the bread shop opposite the top of Springvale Road was raised (no pun) and this source had suggested the name Mountains?

Hi Geoff. There were two! There was one by the cinema in the centre of Crookes and there was another one, now flats! - just above where the Kandy Kabin was that we've been talking about - in fact, they must have been almost next door.

For a picture of the one you were meaning go to - www.picturesheffield.com
Get the keyboard index - click C. Scroll down to Crookes Picture House and Bingo! (Not quite, but you have the location of those famed matinees!)

Perhaps I should point out that the Co-op is now where the picture house was. Previously, the store was at the other side of Newent Lane. There became a supermarket either side of the Lane, but the Co-op moved across to take up an existing liquor licence.

Durango Kid was my favourite. He rode of the cliff on his horse at the end and, blow me, next week he'd survived. That was before the Bolehills football matches with the Harris's came about.
Geoff

My grandparent owned a Bike shop on the main road, corner, Duncan road, pre war
and have pictures, both my parents lived crookes.
laughter

Does anyone remember a family named Greatbatch from the Crookes area pre and just slightly post war?

Does anyone remember a family named Greatbatch from the Crookes area pre and just slightly post war?

There was a family called Greatbatch that lived on Stannington View Road in the 40's, I went to Crookes Endowed school with Ruby Greatbatch.

[QUOTE=CHAIRBOY;
I think you are thinking of KENYONS at Sackville.

Yes you're right CHAIRBOY, it's been a long time since I lived there, 53 years to be exact.

I've found your mum-in-law's family in the 1973 Kelly's Directory, at 26 Elgin Street. She might remember next-door neighbours the Sigsworths at No 24 and Robinsons at No 28.

There were also the Shepards, Frost's & Beardshaws that lived on there.

[QUOTE=wykewatson;3934542]remember the chip shop at the bottom of bolehill lane.

There was a bloke who lived a few doors above the chippy, he was POW & came home in the 40's, the papers etc were there and it was a big day for Crookes, there were many people there to welcome him home too, the majority standing on what was spare land at the bottom of B/H lane, they later built a swing park there from memory.

There was a family called Greatbatch that lived on Stannington View Road in the 40's, I went to Crookes Endowed school with Ruby Greatbatch.

The 1973 directory shows a Sydney Greatbatch at 108 Stannington View Road.

This couple named Greatbatch lived on Toyne Street, Crookes until 1951.
I believe they were related to Sydney Greatbatch and Ruby Greatbatch who people have kindly mentioned on here. Having been in touch with a distant Greatbatch, I seem to think that Ruby is still with us.
If my memory is correct they lived next door to a family named Cammack?

Duffems

There was a family called Greatbatch that lived on Stannington View Road in the 40's, I went to Crookes Endowed school with Ruby Greatbatch.

Odd you should mention that Skippy, because a couple of months ago ( in my line of work ) I came across one of the older Greatbatch sisters. She told me that she was brought up in one of the four cottages/houses that used to be at the top of Duncan Road. The Greatbatch's used to live near the Gill's up Stannington View, I think there were three girls and one boy, but I only knew Trevor and Ruby who were more my age. Sadly I have to report that Ruby has been dead for some years.

[QUOTE=Elmambo;3930294]

I can't add much to that Elmambo. The years pass and the memory plays tricks. Certainly, Leapers has a ring of recollection but don't remember much more. Where Baxters is now, top of Toyne St., that was owned by Willis Oxley. At the Coombe Road end, I remember a cobbler's shop by the Old Grindstone plus a barber's shop (Charlie Scruton). I have problems picturing departed landmarks in the city centre, of ten years ago or less - unless it had a specific memory. Meesons at the end of Longfield Road, was legendary for that cat stench and where we bought "Jubblies" after playing football. Jubbly was roughly a prismatic shaped frozen orange drink.

Elmambo - Further enlightened whilst having my morning swin, I was told the horsemeat butcher you referred to, hung himself!

A morning swim mmm, I've obviously taken a wrong turning somewhere in life. Willis Oxley was another local institution, very smart and polite - a very busy shop. Scruton's was there for a long while - end of the block, next to Broomheads - still a hairdressers.
Thought Jubblies came later, do you mean "Joysticks". They were triangular shaped, about six inches, long in a cardboard sleeve and if you only had a ha'penny they could be cut into two.

[QUOTE=CHAIRBOY;3930797]

A morning swim mmm, I've obviously taken a wrong turning somewhere in life. Willis Oxley was another local institution, very smart and polite - a very busy shop. Scruton's was there for a long while - end of the block, next to Broomheads - still a hairdressers.
Thought Jubblies came later, do you mean "Joysticks". They were triangular shaped, about six inches, long in a cardboard sleeve and if you only had a ha'penny they could be cut into two.

No, definitely "Jubbly" - a tetrahedron shape of frozen, orange-flavoured ice -
all pre-1964.

Odd you should mention that Skippy, because a couple of months ago ( in my line of work ) I came across one of the older Greatbatch sisters. She told me that she was brought up in one of the four cottages/houses that used to be at the top of Duncan Road. The Greatbatch's used to live near the Gill's up Stannington View, I think there were three girls and one boy, but I only knew Trevor and Ruby who were more my age. Sadly I have to report that Ruby has been dead for some years.

I'm in contact with someone from the Greatbatch line as they're my "adopted" family and I'd be interested to know about them.
Duffems

Hi Geoff. There were two! There was one by the cinema in the centre of Crookes and there was another one, now flats! - just above where the Kandy Kabin was that we've been talking about - in fact, they must have been almost next door.

For a picture of the one you were meaning go to - www.picturesheffield.com
Get the keyboard index - click C. Scroll down to Crookes Picture House and Bingo! (Not quite, but you have the location of those famed matinees!)

Perhaps I should point out that the Co-op is now where the picture house was. Previously, the store was at the other side of Newent Lane. There became a supermarket either side of the Lane, but the Co-op moved across to take up an existing liquor licence.

There were actually three Co-op stores. The one near Kandy Kabin survived until fairly recently as the Co-op funeral directors, another is now the horse and rider shop, but there was also the drapery shop at the top of Marston Road, now an Italian eatery - the Co-op logo is still there if you look. It was a wierd shop, I never ever saw ony one go in.
The first supermarket was "Finefare"

[QUOTE=Elmambo;3937751]

No, definitely "Jubbly" - a tetrahedron shape of frozen, orange-flavoured ice -
all pre-1964.

Dead right, CHAIRBOY - they were delicious, and cost 4d. http://www.lightstraw.co.uk/faded/f_jubblyoj.gif

[QUOTE=Elmambo;3937751]

No, definitely "Jubbly" - a tetrahedron shape of frozen, orange-flavoured ice -
all pre-1964.

Your discription of the Jubbly is priceless
Geoff

[QUOTE=CHAIRBOY;3937796]

Your discription of the Jubbly is priceless
Geoff

Well I think Hillsbro does us proud with his pictures of Jenks, and now, the Jubbly. If only we'd got one of Pop Meeson who served the Jubblies. I can picture him now - and smell the shop - as the cats tip-toed over the counter and across the sweet-jars' tops.

There were also the Shepards, Frost's & Beardshaws that lived on there.

is one of the beardshaws know as ichabod?
my mum in law married john jenkinson who lived on the next yard up of elgin street

Anyone remember the off licence on the corner of Cobden view and school road? ... I once got my finger stuck to the ice in the freezer there when I was about 4 .lol had a huge blister on it afterwards and it didnt half hurt! :D

Anyone remember the off licence on the corner of Cobden view and school road? ... I once got my finger stuck to the ice in the freezer there when I was about 4 .lol had a huge blister on it afterwards and it didnt half hurt! :D

The owner at one time (60s) was called Yeardley. Just across was Ridal's builder's yard and to widen the thread, just below was Turner's wet fish shop, Walshaw's sweet shop and an antique shop and milliners.
On the other side, above the doctors, was the shop in the corner (hairdressers ?), a bakery enterprise, Robinson's newsagents, and others included; Platts' chip shop (they had a son called "Butch"), a butcher's shop,
Harry Bell's barber, where the chemist is, and Bull's cobblers. The daughter was called Celia.
There was also another fish and chip shop at the end of Sackville Road/School Road - almost opposite the dentist. Can't remember the surname of the fryer but his first name was Ogden and he was keen on racing.

geoffusa - You must remember those shopkeepers?

The owner at one time (60s) was called Yeardley. Just across was Ridal's builder's yard and to widen the thread, just below was Turner's wet fish shop, Walshaw's sweet shop and an antique shop and milliners.
On the other side, above the doctors, was the shop in the corner (hairdressers ?), a bakery enterprise, Robinson's newsagents, and others included; Platts' chip shop (they had a son called "Butch"), a butcher's shop,
Harry Bell's barber, where the chemist is, and Bull's cobblers. The daughter was called Celia.
There was also another fish and chip shop at the end of Sackville Road/School Road - almost opposite the dentist. Can't remember the surname of the fryer but his first name was Ogden and he was keen on racing.

geoffusa - You must remember those shopkeepers?

Aww yes I remember the builders yard ( now converted to houses if Im correct ).. the sweetshop and across the road the butchers (used to get big bones for the dog) the chippy and news agents.

What was the shop on the corner of Western/School road? I remember their being a bubbly machine outside it and me and a mate getting loads of bubbles out of it one night .. think we broke it..lol

Aww yes I remember the builders yard ( now converted to houses if Im correct ).. the sweetshop and across the road the butchers (used to get big bones for the dog) the chippy and news agents.

What was the shop on the corner of Western/School road? I remember their being a bubbly machine outside it and me and a mate getting loads of bubbles out of it one night .. think we broke it..lol

The shop as I knew it was a greengrocers called Furniss's - Tommy and Laura - had an excellent name and was very busy, especially on Saturday mornings - diagonally Greenwood's the GP. It later became a furniture shop and other things but as I didn't 'do' bubble gum, I don't remember the machine, although I do recall those multi-coloured balls - and a few years later, played cricket with a man who probably owned it!

Yes, Roughly where a plant shop/greenhouse shop is now, just below the chemist.
Do u remember Pokes Chairboy?If so can u remember when they left/retired?

Do u remember Pokes, Chairboy?If so can u remember when they left/retired?

No, sorry, never heard of that name, Pokes.

If this refers to "K. & N. Pokes, newsagents" of 18 Barber Road, they were still there in 1972 according to the local business directory.

If this refers to "K. & N. Pokes, newsagents" of 18 Barber Road, they were still there in 1972 according to the local business directory. Thats odd as I'm almost certain they were on Crookes though I'm thinking mid 70's-unless they moved from there.

I remember Pokes newsagents being on Barber Road in about 1970, they were just above Worrall's chemists.

I remember Pokes newsagents being on Barber Road in about 1970, they were just above Worrall's chemists.

Then the butchers, just below, which once was Carneys, had been Mabbutts much earlier?

Then the butchers, just below, which once was Carneys, had been Mabbutts much earlier? Thats definitely right.Just confused about Pokes tho',could've sworn that was on Crookes and became Kandy Kabin.:help:

The owner at one time (60s) was called Yeardley. Just across was Ridal's builder's yard and to widen the thread, just below was Turner's wet fish shop, Walshaw's sweet shop and an antique shop and milliners.
On the other side, above the doctors, was the shop in the corner (hairdressers ?), a bakery enterprise, Robinson's newsagents, and others included; Platts' chip shop (they had a son called "Butch"), a butcher's shop,
Harry Bell's barber, where the chemist is, and Bull's cobblers. The daughter was called Celia.
There was also another fish and chip shop at the end of Sackville Road/School Road - almost opposite the dentist. Can't remember the surname of the fryer but his first name was Ogden and he was keen on racing.

geoffusa - You must remember those shopkeepers?

Had a crew cut at Harry Bells when I was very young. My Mum never forgave Harry. I didn't like it either, but my mate Geoffrey Busby had one and so must I. Mrs Turner at the fish shop in her white overalls and I think wellies.
The newsagent for the Tiger - Ar yes I remember it well
Geoff

Then the butchers, just below, which once was Carneys, had been Mabbutts much earlier?

I think it was Keith Carney. His Dad was Jack and a very good snooker player. He played snooker with my Dad, Steve at the Florist and later with me also as I developed the taste. Jim Baxter of the fishing paper also was a mean cue handler. Do you remember Graham Morfett from Cobden View? and Leslie Roddis?
Geoff

Just been looking at some great pictures of the Crookes I knew on the Sheffield Pictures site, what I thought was the off licence below the drink shop turned out to be Revills grocers shop, but I seem to think they sold beer & wine too ?

Having watched the BMX races at the Olympics, it took me back to the cycle speedway of the 60's around the "cookhouse". I am aware there is a BMX facility on the Bole Hills but for those who didn't know the Bole Hills of the 60's, it belonged to the Education Committee and just on the land from the police houses was the Education Meals building surrounding by a beautiful, oval and evenly-concreted track.
The person at the helm of the cycle speedway was then-King Edward's pupil, Roy Jessop and that bit of sport provided hours of entertainment as we tried to copy what we'd observed at Owlerton stadium!

Does anyone remember the corner shop on Mulehouse Road that had all the melted sweets in the window. I think the woman that had it in the '70s now runs Nirmals on West Street. If you went in and only had half a pence, she'd bite a penny sweet in half and put the other half back in the jar.

Can only remember the little toy shop on the corner-Toyland- that sold jokes on a revolving stand.I bought the set of Glow Monsters there that were like Airfix kits.From what I recall there was Godzilla,Dracula,Frankenstein,King Kong and The Hunchback of Notre Dame among others which glowed in the dark.:cool:

Here's a scan from an old Kelly’s Directory that might re-awaken a few memories; it shows Crookes businesses as they were in 1972:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/Crookes.jpg

and here are the shops on Barber Road including Pokes, Worralls etc.:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/Barber.jpg

It certainly has awoken a few memories-but also confused me even more.I DO recall Kandy Kabin being run by Mr & Mrs Derek Beech now.I can clearly remember them both.I still don't get why I've confused K & N Pokes with Kandy Kabin.Would be interested to know what years Pokes were on Barber Road tho',that might help.:help:

It certainly has awoken a few memories-but also confused me even more.I DO recall Kandy Kabin being run by Mr & Mrs Derek Beech now.I can clearly remember them both.I still don't get why I've confused K & N Pokes with Kandy Kabin.Would be interested to know what years Pokes were on Barber Road tho',that might help.:help:

Well, I'll be using my recently-acquired bus pass for a free trip to town sometime, so I'll call in the Local Studies Library and peer at a few directories! I think the library staff will be relieved when I head for the corner where they keep the directories. I sometimes go in with such long, complicated enquiries that I'm sure their hearts sink when I come in through the door....:?

Good work hillsbro. I notice that Kandy Kabin was adjacent to 126 which is still a house and the owner Steve Temich is still seen out and about.

I had a conversation only this morning in which the bread shop opposite the top of Springvale Road was raised (no pun) and this source had suggested the name Mountains?

The 1925 directory has a "Mrs Emma Mountain, Grocer" at No 243 Crookes, which is about the right location. Here's a scan:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/Crookes1925.jpg

The shop had changed hands by 1972 - though perhaps not long before then; a few business mentioned in 1925 were still there almost 50 years later - such as Greenlees boot makers at 207, Boots at 208 and Jewitts at 184. In other cases the type of business remained the same but the name changed - for example at No 223, Friedrich's pork butchers had become Dentons (who were also in Hillsborough in the 1960s/70s) and at No 124, Dr J. Flynn had replaced Dr John O'Sullivan.

The 1925 directory has a "Mrs Emma Mountain, Grocer" at No 243 Crookes, which is about the right location. Here's a scan:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/twigmore/Crookes1925.jpg

The shop had changed hands by 1972 - though perhaps not long before then; a few business mentioned in 1925 were still there almost 50 years later - such as Greenlees boot makers at 207, Boots at 208 and Jewitts at 184. In other cases the type of business remained the same but the name changed - for example at No 223, Friedrich's pork butchers had become Dentons (who were also in Hillsborough in the 1960s/70s) and at No 124, Dr J. Flynn had replaced Dr John O'Sullivan.

That's the one hillsbro (Mountain's) - checked it out and it was two doors away from the Sheffield Savings Bank which later became the TSB ahead of moving to Hillsborough at Lloyds. The shop looked down Springvale Road.

I just looked on findmypast.com - an Emma Mountain died in Sheffield in the last quarter of 1968, aged 90 - it seems likely that this was the shopkeeper.

Having watched the BMX races at the Olympics, it took me back to the cycle speedway of the 60's around the "cookhouse". I am aware there is a BMX facility on the Bole Hills but for those who didn't know the Bole Hills of the 60's, it belonged to the Education Committee and just on the land from the police houses was the Education Meals building surrounding by a beautiful, oval and evenly-concreted track.
The person at the helm of the cycle speedway was then-King Edward's pupil, Roy Jessop and that bit of sport provided hours of entertainment as we tried to copy what we'd observed at Owlerton stadium!

The trouble was or corners weren't banked.
Geoff

http://www.chrishobbs.com/crookesmurder.htm

Yes as you say Dudey - Opposite the Punch Bowl.

That shop was, once upon a time, Shentall's. My mother worked there for a while. The shop on the corner was Mac's fruit & vegetable shop. The opposite corner was Peat's then Melias then the Savings Bank, above which I lived, then it was Mountains, from where came the cockroaches into our flat. I can't remember beyond there, except of course the Fish & Chip shop. 3d chips and 5d for a fish. Scraps were free.

I photographed Peat's - Mountains in 1968, but by then Melias had become Joe Winter's and Mountains had become Hammonds. This is a low resolution picture of a drawing I did from the above photograph I mentioned. The original is very large.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/CROOKES-LINEDRAWING.jpg

...and here's an original tram.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/TRAM189-LINEDRAWING.jpg

...and now I'm off to add a bit to the Bole Hills thread, if I can find it.

That shop was, once upon a time, Shentall's. My mother worked there for a while. The shop on the corner was Mac's fruit & veg shop. The opposite corner was Peat's then Melias then the Savings Bank, above which I lived, then it was Mountains, from where came the cockroaches into our flat. I can't remember beyond there, except of course the Fish & Chip shop. 3d chips and 5d for a fish. Scraps were free.

I photographed Peat's - Mountains in 1968, but by then Melias had become Joe Winter's and Mountains had become Hammonds. This is a low resolution picture of a drawing I did from the above photograph I mentioned. The original is very large.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/CROOKES-LINEDRAWING.jpg

...and here's an original tram.

[url]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/escafeld01/TRAM189-LINEDRAWING.jpg[/url

If we gave Meeson's a miss, after the Bole Hills' soccer, the Bole Hill Lane chippie was on the agenda. Opposite the chip shop at the top of Springvale Road was Ken Crownshaw's furniture shop. We mentioned 'Jenks' from the Scouts the other week and Ken was also one of the seniors within the Congs' ranks. Ken had a daughter called Janet who went on to marry Peter Howard who covered Blades' games for Sheffield Newspapers. Sadly Peter died a couple of years ago.

Good work hillsbro. I notice that Kandy Kabin was adjacent to 126 which is still a house and the owner Steve Temich is still seen out and about.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...re/Crookes.jpg

This photo seems to have been deleted,unless its my computer as usual...:rant:

This photo seems to have been deleted,unless its my computer as usual...:rant:

Think you are right as far as my link goes. Try hillsbro's original please.

I'm looking for any history on Western Road School, please. I'd like to know when it was built, when it changed to Westways - anything of interest. When I've compiled stuff about the school and local churches, shops etc I'm going to add the text to photographs and put the lot on geograph.org.uk

So any help with the shops, churches, schools and so on would be much appreciated and you get the photographs to use for free under the Creative Commons Licence.

Good work hillsbro. I notice that Kandy Kabin was adjacent to 126 which is still a house and the owner Steve Temich is still seen out and about.

So was that 124 or 128 please?

So was that 124 or 128 please?

128/130 Kandy Kabin.

Thanks for that.

In the 50s/60s the chip shop at the bottom of Bole Hill Lane was run by what I believe was a husband and wife team. He was a good looking guy with wavy ginger hair and she was pretty with auburn hair. She developed an eye condition which gave her staring eyes. My mother knew the term for it, but I can't remember. They were both very pleasant, but I can't remember their names. Anyone help me out with that please.

I remember Mr Peat the butcher at the bottom of Toftwood Rd. He was always dressed very smartly. A guy called Jack worked there and a husband and wife. She was called Betty and he was called Ron. They lived somewhere off Tinker Lane.

I also remember Mr Mac and his wife, but not her name, and the lady who served in the shop. Mr & Mrs MacDuff lived up Toftwood Road. I hardly ever saw him without his pipe in his mouth, but he never seemed to be smoking it.

That's the one hillsbro (Mountain's) - checked it out and it was two doors away from the Sheffield Savings Bank which later became the TSB ahead of moving to Hillsborough at Lloyds. The shop looked down Springvale Road.

Hi CB
I opened my first savings account at Sheffiel Savings Bank on Crookes. They had a nice chap as manager. Will remember his name if you can give me a nudge chair. wAS THE CORNER
Never had much in the account however. Come to think of it .......

Was the corner Greengrocers later run by Tony Hughes ?

Thanks for that.

In the 50s/60s the chip shop at the bottom of Bole Hill Lane was run by what I believe was a husband and wife team. He was a good looking guy with wavy ginger hair and she was pretty with auburn hair. She developed an eye condition which gave her staring eyes. My mother knew the term for it, but I can't remember. They were both very pleasant, but I can't remember their names. Anyone help me out with that please.

I remember Mr Peat the butcher at the bottom of Toftwood Rd. He was always dressed very smartly. A guy called Jack worked there and a husband and wife. She was called Betty, but I can't remember his name. They lived somewhere off Tinker Lane.

I also remember Mr Mac and his wife, but not her name, and the lady who served in the shop. Mr & Mrs MacDuff lived up Toftwood Road. I hardly ever saw him without his pipe in his mouth, but he never seemed to be smoking it.

Betty from Peat's was a good friend of my mothers. I thinking of her last name

Thanks for that.

In the 50s/60s the chip shop at the bottom of Bole Hill Lane was run by what I believe was a husband and wife team. He was a good looking guy with wavy ginger hair and she was pretty with auburn hair. She developed an eye condition which gave her staring eyes. My mother knew the term for it, but I can't remember. They were both very pleasant, but I can't remember their names. Anyone help me out with that please.

I remember Mr Peat the butcher at the bottom of Toftwood Rd. He was always dressed very smartly. A guy called Jack worked there and a husband and wife. She was called Betty, but I can't remember his name. They lived somewhere off Tinker Lane.

I also remember Mr Mac and his wife, but not her name, and the lady who served in the shop. Mr & Mrs MacDuff lived up Toftwood Road. I hardly ever saw him without his pipe in his mouth, but he never seemed to be smoking it.

"Crookes" - on the previous page to this hillsbro has provided a jpeg of the addressees on Crookes for 1972. Harold Hitchborne is shown as 239. The owners of 249, the Bole Hill chippie are recorded as M & E Haines. This is about eight years after 'my' Bole Hill footie days but it may be the same people? I think in the 90's it was a Greek who took it on?

Thanks CHAIRBOY. I'm very interested to know where and how to get that sort of information. Is it online?

As a child, I very often cleaned the SSB's premises. Everything from dusting, mopping the floor, and even metal polishing the pewter inkwells and then there was the pots to wash.

I was fascinated by the massive ledgers they had and sometimes left out. Every road/street in Crookes was listed and with the names of the occupants, which I'd love to have hold of right now. They were all beautifully hand-written in pen as well. One of the leather-bound books must have been about 18"x24"x4" and another about 20"x16"x6" and they were extremely heavy.

When I left home, many years ago, I left my treasured bicycle in the cellar beneath the bank. It was a Dawes. My gran bought it from a jumble sale for me in about '56/'57. It cost 7/6d. When I started work, all the money I had left after paying my board went into that bike. After a few years I had replaced everything on it with the latest alloy bits and pieces. It had the largest to the smallest gear ratio that Ernie Oldham could fit with a Benelux gear change he sent away for. I also had it spray painted. The total cost was in excess of £40. I reckon I could have bought a second-hand car for that.

Something I've just remembered. There were two large attic rooms in the flat above the bank and one of them was my bedroom. Somehow a settee ended up there and after awhile my mother told me, in no uncertain terms, to get rid of it. She had been to work all one day and asked me about the settee and I told her it had gone, but it was still there. She marched upstairs and looked around and asked where the hell it was. I had spent all day cutting it to pieces and fed it through a small trapdoor in the eaves and as far as I know, it's still there. Sorry about the thread drift, but it follows the title.

Oh, if anyone wants to know who, in 1966, fired an air rifle at the drain pipe in the top house on Bole Hill lane (left-hand rear) it was me from the loft above the SSB. I heard someone shout that they'd heard an air rifle go off. It was a BSA Airsporter, btw. :-)) Ruddy good gun that. I sold it to a second-hand shop at the bottom of Snig Hill.

I think the data came from Kelly's Directory of 1972. hillsbro seems to be able to get that information from the library. The things he produces are second to none so his advice would be best, depending on what you are seeking?

I think the data came from Kelly's Directory of 1972. hillsbro seems to be able to get that information from the library. The things he produces are second to none so his advice would be best, depending on what you are seeking?

I'd just like to go back to the 50's or 60's when Crookes was Crookes without all the traffic, commercialism, clutter and so on. There was a real pride about the place, I loved it.

I'm starting out in Geograph with Broomhill - http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/934074 because that's where I first lived. It's probably going to take some time to get to Crookes, but I have just about all the photographs I need. This isn't a very interesting shot, but would have been if the buildings were still standing. It's called progress and if that didn't happen we'd still be living in caves and huts, but the character is gradually getting knocked out of Sheffield, I think.

I think the data came from Kelly's Directory of 1972. hillsbro seems to be able to get that information from the library. The things he produces are second to none so his advice would be best, depending on what you are seeking?

The Local Studies Library on Surrey Street has a unique stock of old Sheffield directories - Kelly's, Whites, Post Office etc., many of which are easily available on the shelves. But I actually have at home the 1973 Kelly's Directory (which gives the position as in 1972). I rescued it from the bin at the Midland Bank where I then worked. I think the 1974 edition was the last one.

I also have the 1925 directory on a CD - I don't know of any other Sheffield directories that are available in digital form. The books sometimes sell for quite high prices when they are offered on abebooks.co.uk etc. Anyone who needs information from the 1925 or 1973 directory is welcome to PM me.

I have a 39 and a 60 Kelly's but I was banned from sticking my head in them for hours on end. So they are with my brother whose wife is of a more patient disposition.
So if you need anything let me know and I'll forward the questions.

I have a 39 and a 60 Kelly's but I was banned from sticking my head in them for hours on end. So they are with my brother whose wife is of a more patient disposition.
So if you need anything let me know and I'll forward the questions.

Thank you. You have a PM.

Although not useful for the 'living memory' questions, these are all the Sheffield directories you can find at http://www.historicaldirectories.org. They are complete searchable scans.

The numbers in brackets refer to the six pages of Yorkshire directories available through the 'find by location' link.

Sheffield 1787 [3]
Sheffield 1825 [5]
Sheffield and Rotherham 1833 [2]
Sheffield 1849 [4]
Sheffield 1852 [5]
Sheffield and Rotherham 1856 [5]
Sheffield 1862 [2]
Sheffield and Rotherham 1879 [3]
Sheffield and Rotherham 1901 [1]
Sheffield and Rotherham 1905 [2]
Sheffield and Rotherham 1911 [3]

Hugh

on the top end of glossop road No.485 was a chemist shop (1890's) called C. RADFORDS chemist shop. i am looking for a photograph of the shop front. i have tried sheffield pictures but no joy. if there is one in a private collection to have a look at it.

on the top end of glossop road No.485 was a chemist shop (1890's) called C. RADFORDS chemist shop. i am looking for a photograph of the shop front. i have tried sheffield pictures but no joy. if there is one in a private collection to have a look at it.

Are you only interested in an old photograph or an up-to-date one?

Although not useful for the 'living memory' questions, these are all the Sheffield directories you can find at http://www.historicaldirectories.org. Hugh

Thanks Hugh, I'm off to look at that right now. A big thank to everyone for all the help I'm getting. Can't mention everyone, but thank you.

Are you only interested in an old photograph or an up-to-date one?

i think the shop was listed in the directory between 1883-1888

Does any one know the history of Crookes House, just opposite the old Chemist, now the Indian Chef.

OK crookes I've collected my kellys.
What roads do you want scanning

I've just found this site. My mum was born in Crooks on Stothard near the top. Remember when visiting ,my grandmother in the 60's playing on the Bole Hills. Visiting Crooks when I was little was like going to another town, really enjoyed it.

Really surprised that no-one has mentioned Mr & Mrs Bly and their pork butchers shop. My mum used to work there on Saturdays when I was little (which would be 1969ish through the early 70's). It was in the shop that I think is now a pet supply shop (opposite the charity shop that used to be a petrol station) and next to the estate agents (which used to be a bank) on the opposite corner to Carracks wallpaper shop - which must have supplied wallpaper and/or paint to everyone household in Crookes at some point over the last couple of generations at least!

Really surprised that no-one has mentioned Mr & Mrs Bly and their pork butchers shop. My mum used to work there on Saturdays when I was little (which would be 1969ish through the early 70's). It was in the shop that I think is now a pet supply shop (opposite the charity shop that used to be a petrol station) and next to the estate agents (which used to be a bank) on the opposite corner to Carracks wallpaper shop - which must have supplied wallpaper and/or paint to everyone household in Crookes at some point over the last couple of generations at least!

Bly's had gone out of my mind but after your prompt, I do remember the shop.
I seem to recall two sons, the youngest of whom had black hair and think they lived on School Road, near Clementson? Sorry I don't recall their forenames but I didn't know them that well.

OK crookes I've collected my kellys.
What roads do you want scanning

Sorry Tooeg, I've been away. Algar Road, Ashgate Road, Bolehill Lane, Crookes, Fulwood Road, Glossop Road, Toftwood Road and Witham Road, please.

I have mentioned on this forum, the name of former King Edward GS pupil, Roy Jessop who used to go on the Bole Hills to play soccer and he masterminded the cycle speedway round the old cook-house.
Sadly, Oct 2 Star tells me that Roy, 61, formerly of Coombe Road at Crookes has suddenly passed away at his Leicestershire home. His funeral is to be held at Loughborough Crem. next Monday. Sorry to lose you Roy at a relatively early age.

http://www.oldedwardians.org.uk/nlc/photos/65.6MS2A.html
A picture of Roy in his school days.

I have mentioned on this forum, the name of former King Edward GS pupil, Roy Jessop who used to go on the Bole Hills to play soccer and he masterminded the cycle speedway round the old cook-house.
Sadly, Oct 2 Star tells me that Roy, 61, formerly of Coombe Road at Crookes has suddenly passed away at his Leicestershire home. His funeral is to be held at Loughborough Crem. next Monday. Sorry to lose you Roy at a relatively early age.

http://www.oldedwardians.org.uk/nlc/photos/65.6MS2A.html
A picture of Roy in his school days.

That is so sad. Roy was a lovely lad when we used to play football and cricket on the bolehills all those years ago and I have no doubt he continued that gentlemanly trend throughout his life. A sad and far too early loss.
Geoff

It's been very interesting sat with my father reading the posts about crookes. Our family has a long history within the area, especially on my grandmothers side, the Wragg's. Dorothy (Dolly) Wragg married Hubert Bell (my grandfather) in the early 30's. Hubert went into business with John Kenyon after Spooners butchers shop, where he had worked from being a lad, was passed on to them by George Spooner. The shop was then called Kenyon & Bell - Not just Kenyons. Whilst my grandfather was at war my grandmother, Dolly Bell ran the shop with Kenyon. My grandfather then bought Kenyon out in the 50's and the shop name changed to H.Bell until sometime in the 70's when the shop was sold on. My father, Terry, also had a butchers shop during the 80's, T. C. Bell, further down the road at 146 crookes, next to the chemist. Seems strange to me that our old shop has now been converted to a house. Reading some of the posts has brought back a lot of things that my grandparents and my father told me about the area over the years. I remember as a child seeing my grandmother reading one of the crookes 'history' books and chuntering away to herself in a corner.......i don't think she agreed with one or two pages!!! There's been a lot of talk on here of the Kandy Kabin - i spent many happy hours in there as a child in the early 80's stuffing my face with sweets given to me by beryl & derek!! Good Times.

There were actually three Co-op stores. The one near Kandy Kabin survived until fairly recently as the Co-op funeral directors, another is now the horse and rider shop, but there was also the drapery shop at the top of Marston Road, now an Italian eatery - the Co-op logo is still there if you look. It was a wierd shop, I never ever saw ony one go in.
The first supermarket was "Finefare"

my grandmother jessie capp nee owen owned the shop oppisite the horse and rider was called owens little star ....my great grandad was a drapper they live behined the shop ....my mum took over the shop from the late 70's to 1993 was called blooming wonderfull....my dad was noel capp he passed away in 1997 would love to know more about that part of my family have just gone though some photos my brother had and have found afew old photos of the shop when they 1st opened it . will try and get them on with links hopfully soon.

my grandmother jessie capp nee owen owned the shop oppisite the horse and rider was called owens little star ....my great grandad was a drapper they live behined the shop ....my mum took over the shop from the late 70's to 1993 was called blooming wonderfull....my dad was noel capp he passed away in 1997 would love to know more about that part of my family have just gone though some photos my brother had and have found afew old photos of the shop when they 1st opened it . will try and get them on with links hopfully soon.

I knew a man at Crookes called Frank Capp - he must be a relative? - who was interested in horseracing.

my grandmother jessie capp nee owen owned the shop oppisite the horse and rider was called owens little star ....my great grandad was a drapper they live behined the shop ....my mum took over the shop from the late 70's to 1993 was called blooming wonderfull....my dad was noel capp he passed away in 1997 would love to know more about that part of my family have just gone though some photos my brother had and have found afew old photos of the shop when they 1st opened it . will try and get them on with links hopfully soon.

Just a bit of information - your great-grandad was evidently the William Owen who is listed in the 1925 directory at 210 Northfield Road. Your grandmother would have been the Jessie Owen who was born in Sheffield on 4 November 1908 and who died in Sheffield in July 1996. The 1973 directory lists "J. Capp, draper" at 210 Northfield Road.

I knew a man at Crookes called Frank Capp - he must be a relative? - who was interested in horseracing.

thats was my grandpa he passed away in 1993

Just a bit of information - your great-grandad was evidently the William Owen who is listed in the 1925 directory at 210 Northfield Road. Your grandmother would have been the Jessie Owen who was born in Sheffield on 4 November 1908 and who died in Sheffield in July 1996. The 1973 directory lists "J. Capp, draper" at 210 Northfield Road.

thanks hillsbro i found that info afew months bk with the help of my dads reative that lives in crosspool but thats all we really have we are try to find out more but thats all we have oh and the fact that he did have a warehouse at 6 norfolk rd . im aslo trying to find more info on the capp side as they moved here from knaresborough.

hi chairboy frank capp used to on in the grindstone alot ,i even have a photo of him and my big brother in there link:http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=38581&l=1ac44&id=744024498

i lived at Crookes terminus, my late father worked round the corner at the blood transfusion service for about 35 years.
I also went to Bolehill school - great days

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i lived at Crookes terminus,

You would probably know the Cadwallanders, they had a couple of motorbike shops down the Moor & also lived at the terminus, they live 10 mins from me these days.

i lived at Crookes terminus, my late father worked round the corner at the blood transfusion service for about 35 years.
I also went to Bolehill school - great days

Hi I used to live at Crookes terminus (282 Heavygate Rd)at the back of the LOLLYPOP SHOP and also went to Bole Hill Road school till we moved to Lyons st , Pitsmoor in 1955 when I was about 13 1/2 years old but !
My name is Michael Ward now 66 years old do you know me, I had a brother Trevor 3 years older than me and a sister called Pamela 3 years younger than me !

I believe that Jimmy Jewel, the other half of the double act Jewel and Warris lived on Cobden View Road when he was a lad. However my late grandfather told me that he could remember the pair of them living in Heeley, Jimmy and Ben were cousins.

I believe that Jimmy Jewel, the other half of the double act Jewel and Warris lived on Cobden View Road when he was a lad. However my late grandfather told me that he could remember the pair of them living in Heeley, Jimmy and Ben were cousins.

My understanding on CVR - was the detatched house on the righthandside - going down - just below Springvale Road, which was investigated last year at the centre of a cannabis farm operation?

Hi Geoff. There were two! There was one by the cinema in the centre of Crookes and there was another one, now flats! - just above where the Kandy Kabin was that we've been talking about - in fact, they must have been almost next door.

For a picture of the one you were meaning go to - www.picturesheffield.com
Get the keyboard index - click C. Scroll down to Crookes Picture House and Bingo! (Not quite, but you have the location of those famed matinees!)

Perhaps I should point out that the Co-op is now where the picture house was. Previously, the store was at the other side of Newent Lane. There became a supermarket either side of the Lane, but the Co-op moved across to take up an existing liquor licence.

Your right there were originally two S & E co-ops, one where horse and rider is now and one jusrt above the flower shop opposite the flats below the Ball Inn, this one had a full dairy behind it, with stables for the horses to draw the carts. the one where the cinema was came much later and was a B&C society store.

My understanding on CVR - was the detatched house on the righthandside - going down - just below Springvale Road, which was investigated last year at the centre of a cannabis farm operation?

Hi Chairboy
I thought they lived on the corner of Springvale and Cobden View Road on the right going up Cobden. The Ballamys, Colin and ? lived there later. Jewel was obviously before my time and I could be wrong.
Regards
Geoff

Hi Chairboy
I thought they lived on the corner of Springvale and Cobden View Road on the right going up Cobden. The Ballamys, Colin and ? lived there later. Jewel was obviously before my time and I could be wrong.
Regards
Geoff

I am quite happy to be put right on this as it was hearsay of several years ago, by no means sure and no evidence whatsoever but my suggestion would be a likely property?

my grandmother jessie capp nee owen owned the shop oppisite the horse and rider was called owens little star ....my great grandad was a drapper they live behined the shop ....my mum took over the shop from the late 70's to 1993 was called blooming wonderfull....my dad was noel capp he passed away in 1997 would love to know more about that part of my family have just gone though some photos my brother had and have found afew old photos of the shop when they 1st opened it . will try and get them on with links hopfully soon.

Hi
Your dad lived two doors below my mum at 2 Ryegate Rd. Your great grandma was still alive then. "Old mrs Owen"
We moved there in 1965 I think, and they had lived there a long time then. I seem to think it was Mrs Owens House, but I'm not sure.
Noel was 3 or 4 years older than me, and usually drove around in something a bit flash. I remember an MGB he had for quite a while then a few jags, a lotus.
He was selling cars at Keith Healeys place on west st. when I first knew him.
Then on Heeley bottom, on the corner of broadfield rd.
Your grandad was a retired plumber.( I'm not sure if he was retired, I think he just didn't bother working.)
You would always find him in the Kings Head, Broomhill Tavern, Crosspool Tavern or the Plough. I think he used to drop your grandma at the shop, adjourn to the pub, then bring her home at tea time.
I remember reading of your dads death he would only have been about 53/4, wouldn't he.
As I think back mrs Owen may have lived in that house since it was built in the twenties or Thirties.
There were also some Owens on Greenhow Street, your grandma's brother I suppose. Your dads cousins Christine about your dad's age and Maureen a bit older I recall.
My mum always thought your Grandmother was very posh, probably because she got dressed up everyday to go to the shop.
I have quite fond memories of your dad, If I think of anything else I'll post again.

I'm adding the shop names to photographs of Crookes, now and in the '60s.

As of now, from the Old Grindstone heading up to Crookes, I have at -

13 The Bookmakers
15 A & A Secondhand Centre
17 ?????
19 ?????
21 Broomhead Fish & Chip Shop
23 Just Hair, Unisex Hairdressers

So, if anyone can help me out with 17 and 19, please. If they're houses just put houses, I don't need the names of the householders, thank you.

The 1973 directory has "B. & T. Hague, newsagents" at No 17 and "Edwin B. Rhodes, butcher" at No 19.

The 1973 directory has "B. & T. Hague, newsagents" at No 17 and "Edwin B. Rhodes, butcher" at No 19.

Hiya! Well thanks, but I'm wanting as of now, my friend. I have the 1965 for Crookes, but need 2009 for No.17 and 19.

Hiya! Well thanks, but I'm wanting as of now, my friend. I have the 1965 for Crookes, but need 2009 for No.17 and 19.

I stand correction but I think the "Bookmakers" is currently a barbers?
Almost a throw-back to Charlie Scruton's salon in the 50's!

As of now - I'm sure there is a computer repairs' shop in that block.

I have the 1965 for Crookes, but need 2009 for No.17 and 19.
Have a look: :hihi: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=sheffield&countryCode=GB#map=53.38117,-1.50545|20|256&be=7714563|West&bd=useful_information&loc=GB:53.38308:-1.46487:14|sheffield|Sheffield,%20Norton,%20South% 20Yorkshire,%20England,%20S1%202

Mrs hillsbro and I have been promising ourselves a pub lunch at the Noah's Ark (delicious fish & chips - and their Yorkshire pud + gravy is scrumptious). With any luck we'll manage it next week, if so I'll have a look at ground level...

Have a look: :hihi: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=sheffield&countryCode=GB#map=53.38117,-1.50545|20|256&be=7714563|West&bd=useful_information&loc=GB:53.38308:-1.46487:14|sheffield|Sheffield,%20Norton,%20South% 20Yorkshire,%20England,%20S1%202

Mrs hillsbro and I have been promising ourselves a pub lunch at the Noah's Ark (delicious fish & chips - and their Yorkshire pud + gravy is scrumptious). With any luck we'll manage it next week, if so I'll have a look at ground level...

I'd beware if I were you hillsbro. The pub has gone downhill since John and Tina left a few years ago now. Things ain't what they were!

I use to live on Pickmere Rd, number 60. It was the white house on the corner and when we moved my mum sold it to someone who turned it into student flats. I,d love to have a nosey to look at my old bedroom, when I had it I had a black heart beat painted all the way around the middle of the wall. Thank goodness my taste in decor has now changed!!!

I'm adding the shop names to photographs of Crookes, now and in the '60s.

As of now, from the Old Grindstone heading up to Crookes, I have at -

13 The Bookmakers
15 A & A Secondhand Centre
17 ?????
19 ?????
21 Broomhead Fish & Chip Shop
23 Just Hair, Unisex Hairdressers

So, if anyone can help me out with 17 and 19, please. If they're houses just put houses, I don't need the names of the householders, thank you.

As of 16 Feb'09
13 Gents' Hair salon
15 Chinese Fireworks shop
17 Computer shop
19 Estate Agents
21 Broomheads
23 Just Hair

Reading through the posts, I've just remembered, the Singalongs at the ball inn on Saturday nights about 1966 to 1968. Joe Hoole the coal man singing the laughing policeman with such a laugh it was contageous and Phil Adams with his party piece "I'll raise a bunion on his spannish Onion".
I don't know if either of them new any other songs.
This nostagia's not what it used to be.

Thanks for the list CHAIRBOY :-)

On Western Road, across from the school, there used to be a sweet/tuck shop that sold Flying Saucers, Nibits, Sherbert Dabs etc. Anyone know what shop/house number it was, please. It was somewhere between 119 and 131

Apart from the Post Office, the only shop I can remember was just opposite the top of Mona Avenue. After the gap, there is a run of about six houses with a sort of projecting winow in front, it was the first one of these.
When I was at Western Road, we could walk through the gap to Cobden View and then throught the alley to Newent.

Hi Elmambo - I don't remember it being the first shop, more like the second. Pity the buildings don't look the same. During 1935 a bricklayer lived at 119. 121 was a shop, but what sort, I've no idea. 123 was a boot repairer and 125 was a greengrocers. 127 and 129 was a joiner and a manager. So later on, the sweet shop may have been at 121 or 125. Then again...?

I remember the walkthrough to Cobden View Road. You had the choice of walking up the muddy bank or what I seem to remember, a part of a building, like a passageway. I lived on Crookes and went to Western Road from 1945 to 1957, so it was either that way to and from home, or up and down Springvale Road.

On Western Road, across from the school, there used to be a sweet/tuck shop that sold Flying Saucers, Nibits, Sherbert Dabs etc. Anyone know what shop/house number it was, please. It was somewhere between 119 and 131

I think the tuck shop was round the bottom of Mona Ave at the bottom of Mona Road. I remember Peter Clark who was a class mate of mine lived at the shop opposite the tuck shop on the other corner right at the bottom of Mona Road. I remember the Lucky Bags also. I would think Chairboy could confirm or deny that.

Apart from the Post Office, the only shop I can remember was just opposite the top of Mona Avenue. After the gap, there is a run of about six houses with a sort of projecting winow in front, it was the first one of these.
When I was at Western Road, we could walk through the gap to Cobden View and then throught the alley to Newent.

Wasn't that the " Bombed buildings" Then the other piece of waste land across Cobden View at the bottom of Newent Lane. We also had a name for that but it escapes me.

I think the tuck shop was round the bottom of Mona Ave at the bottom of Mona Road. I remember Peter Clark who was a class mate of mine lived at the shop opposite the tuck shop on the other corner right at the bottom of Mona Road. I remember the Lucky Bags also. I would think Chairboy could confirm or deny that.

That particular shop, Geoff, at Mona Avenue/Springvale Road was called Dale's. I used that shop for sporting cards in bubble gum (which I slung).
Although I recall the location of the shops in question by "Crookes" I don't recall a tuck shop, even though I remember his "Flying Saucers". I remember the Oxtaby, Theacker and Kelsey families living very close to this area and had heard the term "bombed buildings".
Why I doubt a tuck shop, is that you often got a duplicate card with the gum but sometimes a different batch would bring 'new' cards to the collection and if there had been an alternative to Dale's, I would have tried it.
An alternative tuck shop was at the bottom of Warwick St/Leamington St. at a property where in recent times, there was a tragic (fatal) fire at a converted flat - but this is going away from the site in question.
I know where "Crookes" means but can't remember the wares of those shops, almost opposite Binghams.

This is the row of buildings that the sweetshop was amongst in the '50s. I think it was second from left, number 121. I do remember that the entrance door was to the right of the shop front with the counter on the left as you went in. It could also have been at number 125, which also had a right-hand door. I just need it confirming with Kelley's Directory for that period. There certainly wasn't a shop in the 1935 Directory, but neither was there a Post Office/General Store on the corner of Springvale Rd/Western Rd. In fact there is quite a gap between Bingham's and Springvale Rd in the 1935 Directory.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1198040

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1197972

This is the former cut through to Cobden View Road. I was aware of it being a bomb site, but not absolutely sure, so didn't mention it. That would probably explain why the 'right of way' didn't exist.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1198061

The school, taken from almost opposite where the shop was.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1198069

There was another shop at the bottom of Mona Road, though.

NOTE - A whole batch of photographs from Broomhill to Crookes will soon be available.

My memory is that it was the first shop, but it was a long time ago ( I went to Western Road, Infant and Junior, starting 1947 ) so I could not swear to it. I think that you have to be a little careful with Kelly's, the occupation listed would be that of the man of the house and small shops were often run by the woman as a sideline.

There were two other small shops on my way home to Crookes, both on Marston Road, one bottom right (going up), the other first corner on the left - this one I think was a general/sweet shop and always open. The other like the Western Road shop only open now and then.

Opposite the shortcut from Western Road, on Cobdenview there was a further piece of waste ground - I always understood that it was bomb damage. Does any one remember the single engined fighter plane that was parked there on a trailer for a couple of days ?

The Kelly's lists what type of shop though, but I'm not really bothered about the shopkeeper.

My brother thinks the sweetshop was first or second. Well the shop doorway was definitely to the right of the shop window and the counter was on the left going through the door, so it must have been the second one in the row, no.121

First corner on the left of Marston Rd was no.36, which I also have a photo of. It was run by a Mrs McClean (spelling) who had a son called Michael. He was at Western Road same time as me and would probably have been born when I was in '42. He has a lot to answer for. He used to nick cigarettes from his mother's shop and got me into smoking when I was eleven. It only took about 50 years to break the habit.

Does this ring any bells? A woman did run the sweetshop and I seem to think that it was Hoyland's.

Western Road

119 - R T Glossop
121 - Mrs Marion Hoyland
123 - Jack Charlesworth
125 - J N P Coleman
127 - James L Clarke
129 - Joseph Raynes
131 - Edgar Griffiths

My memory is that it was the first shop, but it was a long time ago ( I went to Western Road, Infant and Junior, starting 1947 ) so I could not swear to it. I think that you have to be a little careful with Kelly's, the occupation listed would be that of the man of the house and small shops were often run by the woman as a sideline.

There were two other small shops on my way home to Crookes, both on Marston Road, one bottom right (going up), the other first corner on the left - this one I think was a general/sweet shop and always open. The other like the Western Road shop only open now and then.

Opposite the shortcut from Western Road, on Cobdenview there was a further piece of waste ground - I always understood that it was bomb damage. Does any one remember the single engined fighter plane that was parked there on a trailer for a couple of days ?

The short cut from Cobden View to Western Road was called the "Bombed Buildings" and had a brick ginnell at the side that I used to go through to school. The waste land on the other side of Cobden View we called "The Tip" which lead onto the bottom of Newent Lane. November the 5th saw large bonfires on the tip. Not always the safest of firework displays I seem to remember but great fun. I think the plane was before my time.

I use to live on Pickmere Rd, number 60. It was the white house on the corner and when we moved my mum sold it to someone who turned it into student flats. I,d love to have a nosey to look at my old bedroom, when I had it I had a black heart beat painted all the way around the middle of the wall. Thank goodness my taste in decor has now changed!!!

When did you live there? I lived very close to that (not saying which number on here as my parents still live there). I lived there from 1972-2000. Can't remember anyone called Dawn though!

Sadly this obsession with student accommodation is what's ruined Crookes over the last couple of decades, when I was young it was nearly all families around there, now it seems to be nearly all students.

Just read through the whole thread, some very interesting stuff, and realised that I'd actually posted on it in it's early stages, nearly 3 years ago now! Don't think I've looked at it since then.

Outstanding thread. Memories flooding back. I went to all 3 Western Road schools from 1949 to 1959.

Lived close to the Bole hills and grew up to be one of the "Crookes Lads" till I got married and left.

Like above 2 users I have just read all through the threads-interesting stuff.
We moved to Crookes in 79 so a youngster compared to some.
I remember the old co-ops, Kandy Kabin-was in same year at school as dgtr Francesca, Ballins, Pointers-the sweet shop-think this was leapers at some point-my mum still refers to this as leapers to this day! I remember Baxters being Oxleys and delivering papers for them also for Pagdens(opposite current horse n rider) and Laines who were at the side of St Lukes church. My mum loved the sweet shop next door but one to St Lukes and always sent me there for highland toffee. Copplies at the corner of Northfield Rd/Bradley Street. Greasy Joes chippy where Jaflong is now-I used to deliver his newspaper too!
I think even from the late 70's early 80's the only shops still trading under same name are Post office (School Rd) & Carracks-have any others remained? I was surprised to see Monica Hewitts changed hands-only noticed this recently.
I remember too the old smelly toilets at the top of Toyne St - always needed to go when catching a school Rd bus and then having to walk over Crookes to get home!
mumsy

Just read this for first time,i was at western rd infants and juniors from 47/53 and i remember the short cut through the bomb damage,the plane and the shop on corner of Springvale and Cobden veiw rd was Garlicks,use to go to palace Sat mornings,and sledging on the bolehills.
Also when i got older and left used to go to El Mambo Coffee Bar,
we lived at 189 Cobden View Rd.

[QUOTE=CHAIRBOY;3908677]
The Candy Cabin, Also nearby was the once S&E Co-operative.

Opposite the co-op was a butchers shop that sold horse meat in the 40's, anyone remember the hot vimto from the drink shop just below the Ball, there was a cobblers shop on the corner of Mulehouse and the main road, that was the tram stop too, on the opposite side of M/House was a carpet shop.

Used to get a "sasperella" and a "packet of 3" there :-)

Hi I used to live at Crookes terminus (282 Heavygate Rd)at the back of the LOLLYPOP SHOP and also went to Bole Hill Road school till we moved to Lyons st , Pitsmoor in 1955 when I was about 13 1/2 years old but !
My name is Michael Ward now 66 years old do you know me, I had a brother Trevor 3 years older than me and a sister called Pamela 3 years younger than me !

I used to play with a "lad" that lived in the yard behind the Lollypop shop. I remember one day we were playing with pellet guns and he shot me in the knee with a little dart. WAS THAT YOU ? :-)

[QUOTE=CHAIRBOY;3906957]- opposite what was once, Jewitt's Bakery.

How's this for nostalgia CHAIRBOY ?

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j134/skippy_63/scan0018.jpg

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I remember the Vimto shop, I think it was a temperance bar - sarsparilla etc.


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j134/skippy_63/scan0014.jpg
Seems like it was a drink shop years earlier too.

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My memory is that the horse meat shop was just the other side of Coombe Road. I remember buying meat from there as a kid (for the dog), but the smell of it cooking was vile. I believe the owner committed suicide.
We always used to call your drinks shop the Herbalist's, there was a small Court of cottages to the left of it ( I used to deliver papers there). It was knocked down and the Council flats built.

I've just found these mate.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j134/skippy_63/scan0016.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j134/skippy_63/scan0013.jpg

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Scrutons was in the block with Broomheads by the Old Grindstone, I recall?

Here's Scruton's CHAIRBOY.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j134/skippy_63/scan0017.jpg

Hi John, I seem to remember your name but cannot remember anything about you or about an air pistol !
I had ginger hair in those days more blond now (going grey my wife says)
My nickname in those days was spider , a guy called Tony Lyons christened me that !
I had an older brother called Trevor who was 3 years older than me (he died at 31 years old) and a sister Pamela 3 years younger than me who married Roger Bradshaw who's parents owned fruit shops in Sheffield town centre !
Do you think it was me then who shot you with the air pistol , I surely cannot remember the incident ,was you hurt bad ?
Billy Sales lived in the same yard could it have been him ?
What school did you go too !!!

How did the Old Gardens at the top of Stannington View Road get it's name ? from the early 40's it was all just waste land.

Hi John, I seem to remember your name but cannot remember anything about you or about an air pistol !
I had ginger hair in those days more blond now (going grey my wife says)
My nickname in those days was spider , a guy called Tony Lyons christened me that !
I had an older brother called Trevor who was 3 years older than me (he died at 31 years old) and a sister Pamela 3 years younger than me who married Roger Bradshaw who's parents owned fruit shops in Sheffield town centre !
Do you think it was me then who shot you with the air pistol , I surely cannot remember the incident ,was you hurt bad ?
Billy Sales lived in the same yard could it have been him ?
What school did you go too !!!



Wow, Billy Sales, That name sounds real familiar and if he lived in that yard I'm sure it must have been him.

Thanks for bringing that back

John

Wow, Billy Sales, That name sounds real familiar and if he lived in that yard I'm sure it must have been him.

Thanks for bringing that back

John

Do you remember Georgie Rogers lived in the yard at the back of Jacksons (top shop) at the top of Greenhow St . ?

Do you remember Georgie Rogers lived in the yard at the back of Jacksons (top shop) at the top of Greenhow St . ?



I believe I do but it's a bit of a stretch. I think you guy's went to Bolehill etc and I went to Western Road

I certainly remember going there with my Grandmother to help her carry the shopping bags home :-)

Do you remember Georgie Rogers lived in the yard at the back of Jacksons (top shop) at the top of Greenhow St . ?

Hi John, yes thats right but my older brother went to Western Rd school but he was 3 years older than me (Trevor Ward) he then passed his 11+ and went to Nether Edge , I am 68 in July so he would have been 71 in Dec but saddly passed away 40 years ago !

Used to love going to the Co-Op with my Grandma (and her ration book). They had those overhead ropes that shot the money tubes over to the central cashier. And then the Butchers was connected and they had sawdust on the floor, (and a hole in the wall for the money ropes to go through.

Do you remember Georgie Rogers lived in the yard at the back of Jacksons (top shop) at the top of Greenhow St . ?

Was his nickname Slick.
Billy Sales was a blast from the past. They were both 2/3 years older than me at Bole Hill

Hey Tooeg. Did you live round there. I see from your earlier post you mentioned Joe Hoole. I knew him well. Used to hang out with his nephew Dick Hoole. His dad was Sam. Sam and Joe had the coal business together

Do you remember the big advertising hoardings next to Co-op,we had our bonfires behind them,my grandad had His air raid shelter there,i turned 68 this April.

Was his nickname Slick.
Billy Sales was a blast from the past. They were both 2/3 years older than me at Bole Hill


I think there was a "Rogers" nicknamed slick who lived up Moorsyde Crescent. He had a younger brother nicknamed Spike :D

If I remember right they both finished up in and out of the Big House.

I believe I do but it's a bit of a stretch. I think you guy's went to Bolehill etc and I went to Western Road

Hi John, I think my elder brother went to WESTERN RD SCHOOL , he was 3 years older than me and would now be 70 had he lived, sadly died at the age of 31 he was called Trevor Ward . He passed the 11+ and went on to Nether Edge !

Hi John, I think my elder brother went to WESTERN RD SCHOOL , he was 3 years older than me and would now be 70 had he lived, sadly died at the age of 31 he was called Trevor Ward . He passed the 11+ and went on to Nether Edge !

Hi again

Just a little before my time. Sounds like I am one year younger than you

John

ps

Didn't ya just love the Lollypop Shop :-)

Hi again

Just a little before my time. Sounds like I am one year younger than you

John

ps

Didn't ya just love the Lollypop Shop :-)

Hi John, our cellar was underneath The Lollypop Shop and people used to drop cash and it used to fall down our grate and we used to colect and get extra spending money ! NO one ever came round to our house and asked for there money back !
I also used to be friends with GLYN & GARRY JACKSON whose's parents owned the shop at the top of Greenhow Street and also one at the bottom on South Road and funny enough they had the same thing happen at there bottom shop ,people used to drop cash down there cellar grate !!

After they gave up the grocery life, Glynn had the large boat sales place at Unstone for quite a few years. ( handy for the sea?)

After they gave up the grocery life, Glynn had the large boat sales place at Unstone for quite a few years. ( handy for the sea?)

Thanks for that Tooeg , I have been in there several times but never knew he owned it !
My daughter and son in law are into boats (they live in Jersey) and have there own boat !

Was his nickname Slick.
Billy Sales was a blast from the past. They were both 2/3 years older than me at Bole Hill

I remember Billy Sales and the Greatbatchs.

I remember Billy Sales and the Greatbatchs.

Which Greatbatch did you know please? I'm not from Crookes but, my father was "adopted" by a Greatbatch couple (many years ago though!), just curious as I've been trying to research his family for many years and hit brick walls.

Which Greatbatch did you know please? I'm not from Crookes but, my father was "adopted" by a Greatbatch couple (many years ago though!), just curious as I've been trying to research his family for many years and hit brick walls.

You haven't hit a brick wall here.
Your father was adopted by one of the Greatbatchs from Crookes.
I will find out as much as I can and come back to you on this.
I'm a family member.
Watch this space.

You haven't hit a brick wall here.
Your father was adopted by one of the Greatbatchs from Crookes.
I will find out as much as I can and come back to you on this.
I'm a family member.
Watch this space.

My father was "adopted" by Thomas and Elizabeth (nee Hayes) Greatbatch in 1923, this was prior to documented adoptions so he had no papers. Thomas Greatbatch died in 1928 due to the effects of WW1 and Elizabeth Greatbatch died in 1951 (I can remember her quite well). I know that the family lived in Ranmoor prior to moving to Toyne Street, Crookes.
I can give more detail but, I'm unable to pm you, could you pm me so that I can give you my private e-mail address please.
Duffems

My father was "adopted" by Thomas and Elizabeth (nee Hayes) Greatbatch in 1923, this was prior to documented adoptions so he had no papers. Thomas Greatbatch died in 1928 due to the effects of WW1 and Elizabeth Greatbatch died in 1951 (I can remember her quite well). I know that the family lived in Ranmoor prior to moving to Toyne Street, Crookes.
I can give more detail but, I'm unable to pm you, could you pm me so that I can give you my private e-mail address please.
Duffems

I did PM you but I'm new to this site so I hope I did it correctly.

I did PM you but I'm new to this site so I hope I did it correctly.

I didn't receive a pm and I'm unable to pm you so, could you kindly pm me again please?
I'm extremely eager to learn of anything at all as my father has been gone many years now so I've no one to relate to about his "adoption".

I didn't receive a pm and I'm unable to pm you so, could you kindly pm me again please?
I'm extremely eager to learn of anything at all as my father has been gone many years now so I've no one to relate to about his "adoption".

Giving this a bump in the hope that jaffa1 sees it.

Hi
I have only just joined the forum,we lived on Crookes in the the old drinks shop just below the Ball inn. We were living there during the big Snow fall of 1948. I went to Sharrow Lane school and remember the old quarry on sharrow lane where there was an old guy that made a living selling firewood.

Do you remember Crosslands Bike shop on the main road, my grandparents owned it. Still have a photo of the shop. Think it was at the bottom of Duncan Road.

Used to go in the drinks shop. Drink Sasperilla :-)

I did PM you but I'm new to this site so I hope I did it correctly.

Another bump in the hope that jaffa1 sees it. I didn't receive your pm, could you kindly send it again please, I'm unable to pm you.

Hi to all past Crookes residents

Hi to all past Crookes residents

Hi wecome to the forum

Hi All,
I am new to this page and lived on Tasker Rd until 1966 then School Rd until 1975!!! When I left the area at the age of 24 to go and live with my husband.

My Mum and brother lived on School Rd until 1989 so I returned to the area many times to visit.

I attended St Joseph’s Primary School, Walkley and then St Paul’s, Granville Rd and start there the year that it opened.

I have really enjoyed viewing all the posts on here – it has really made me chuckle and brought back some fond memories. Posts that have stood out are the posts regarding the Kandy Kabin (With Dereck and Beryl)!!!

Great times!!! :-)

hi wondering if anyone remembers my mum she worked in the post office for

Mrs Brufton in the late 40s ish then went back 1966 for a few years

Her name was Audrey maiden name Brightmore

Hi,
Can anyone remember the Farrand family from Longfield Road?
Cal.

Another bump in the hope that jaffa1 sees it. I didn't receive your pm, could you kindly send it again please, I'm unable to pm you.

Hi Duffems
I've been looking through the paperwork of the ancesters which one of
the family has researched and it looks like Thomas was the brother of my ex husbands grandad.
I did have some printout of the family and the adopted boy but I can't seem to find it. I'm trying to find the site where I got the print out from.
I did send you a second PM but I will try again.