Congratulations fiddy, you are up there with the best of them.

I am sure Franz Schubert, W.S.Gilbert, Cole Porter, Noel Coward and Irving Berlin would be personally welcoming you to their hall of fame if they could. Although your ouvre has sometimes been so churlishly criticised for being 'derivative' (of the 'Smack My Bitch Up' and 'Ho' genre made famous by the Prodigy and Snoop Dog'), you are clearly a major force in contemporary songwriting and destined for immortality. I am a DMX fan myself, but I hope to graduate to a deep appreciation of your more sophisticated lyrics at some point.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5007390.stm

Congratulations fiddy, you are up there with the best of them.

I am sure Franz Schubert, W.S.Gilbert, Cole Porter, Noel Coward and Irving Berlin would be personally welcoming you to their hall of fame if they could..................... you are clearly a major force in contemporary songwriting and destined for immortality

Noel Coward is a major force in songwriting? :gag:

:o

Annie Lennox looks like shes lunging to suck someones blood in that picture!

Any awards ceremony that offers Green Day accolades for anything is a complete joke.

Noel Coward is a major force in songwriting? :gag:

Indeed he is. He is in the Songwriter's Hall of Fame, even though he is best known as a playwright. His songs (over 160) are very elegant and witty and deal with many contemporary and universal themes and situations. I think his 'stories in song' style of writing probably has had a significant influence on contemporary song writing for musicals and the theatre in general.

The ceremony is an ass, they gave Mariah Carey an award too!??????

Is this a joke????

50p a song writer ?????????

See what 50,000 people at Reading in 2004 thought of the 50 Pence in the first two videos here (http://www.youtube.com/results?search=50+cent+reading&search_type=search_videos&search=Search)

An obvious choice..

Go, go, go, go
Go, go, go shawty
It's your birthday
We gon' party like it's yo birthday
We gon' sip Bacardi like it's your birthday
And you know we don't give a ****
It's not your birthday!

[Chorus] (2x)
You can find me in the club, bottle full of bub
Look mami I got the X if you into taking drugs
I'm into having sex, I ain't into making love
So come give me a hug if you into to getting rubbed

[Verse]
When I pull out up front, you see the Benz on dubs
When I roll 20 deep, it's 20 knives in the club
Niggas heard I **** with Dre, now they wanna show me love
When you sell like Eminem, and the hoes they wanna ****
But homie ain't nothing change hold down, G's up
I see Xzibit in the Cutt that nigga roll that weed up
If you watch how I move you'll mistake me for a playa or pimp
Been hit wit a few shells but I dont walk wit a limp
In the hood then the ladies saying "50 you hot"
They like me, I want them to love me like they love 'Pac
But holla in New York them niggas'll tell ya im loco
And the plan is to put the rap game in a choke hold
I'm feelin' focused man, my money on my mind
I got a mill out the deal and I'm still on the grind
Now shawty said she feeling my style, she feeling my flow
Her girlfriend wanna get bi and they ready to go

[Chorus] (2x)

[Bridge]
My flow, my show brought me the doe
That bought me all my fancy things
My crib, my cars, my pools, my jewels
Look nigga I got K-Mart and I ain't change

[Verse]
And you should love it, way more then you hate it
Nigga you mad? I thought that you'd be happy I made it
I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life
You that faggot ass nigga trying to pull me back right?
When my junk get to pumpin in the club it's on
I wink my eye at ya bitch, if she smiles she gone
If the roof on fire, let the mother****er burn
If you talking bout money homie, I ain't concerned
I'm a tell you what Banks told me cause go 'head switch the style up
If the niggas hate then let 'em hate
Watch the money pile up
Or we go upside there wit a bottle of bub
You know where we ****ing be

[Chorus] (2x)

[Talking]
(laughing) Don't try to act like you ain't know where we been either nigga
In the club all the time nigga, its about to pop off nigga
G-Unit

The hottest songs from 50 Cent

I'm a bit confused here . Is 50 Cents a person's name or what he gets paid per week for writing songs ?
Downtroad has kindly given us one of the songs in question anyway . If someone did actually write it , what an eye-opener !
The subtle word play and wealth of ideas it expresses are amazing .The song is a real example of how the youf of the Western world feel in the 21st. century .People who sing songs will look back in a 1,000 years and say , [or perhaps sing ? ] ," This was their finest hour ".
If someone is only getting bunged 50 cents for writing such thought-provoking lyrics , then it's a disgrace and they ought to be getting a bit more than that .
I bet that Noel Coward bloke and that Wordsworth geezer and even Shakespeare would have welcomed songs and poems of that standard if they had known about them and them blokes earned a lot more than 50 cents . Carry on writing , Dude , and blow our minds , man .

Well, hey look, there goes an elephant, flying right past my house

It's like the last 20 years never happened on here sometimes.

The last 68 years never happened to be precise, it was made up by David Copperfield and the highlights will be presented by Jeremy Beadle.

Nice one Chavverley. I likes me a bit of irony! 50 Cent is the... Oh ***** this, he's a right pleb!

I presume it was an American sharpshooter that shot him 9 times? :roll:

Either that or "Where there's no sense there's no feeling"

See what 50,000 people at Reading in 2004 thought of the 50 Pence in the first two videos here (http://www.youtube.com/results?search=50+cent+reading&search_type=search_videos&search=Search)

The same happened at Leeds also.

The guy is a joke :huh:

The guy is a joke :huh:

A very, very, very rich joke.

I bet he's laughing.

Frankly, he does not write quite enough about 'booty' for my liking. Nor does he talk much of 'cold lampin'', or warn us that his 'Uzi' is 'in control' half as much as one feels he should. Certainly, there are plentiful references to 'bitches' and ' hoes' in his compositions [though 'hoes' is his only gardening reference]. However, a chap that 'sips Bacardi' is distinctly unclubbable, and possibly a Muff. 50 Cent seems terribly tame to me. What next 'Bum rush the wool shop'?

"50 cent is 'songwriter of the year'"

NO! HE ISN'T!

The same happened at Leeds also.

The guy is a joke :huh:

Are those really glass bottles? As far as I can make out, he carries on rapping, despite the showers of bottles heading stagewards.

He's hardly up there with Elvis Costello and Billy Bragg in terms of lyrical dexterity, is he? Then again, I'm not too familiar with the man's work. Maybe he has a subtlety which I've simply missed.

He's hardly up there with Elvis Costello and Billy Bragg in terms of lyrical dexterity, is he? Then again, I'm not too familiar with the man's work. Maybe he has a subtlety which I've simply missed.

Billy Bragg - 'lyrical dexterity'? Surely some mistake. :gag:

Are those really glass bottles? As far as I can make out, he carries on rapping, despite the showers of bottles heading stagewards.

I'm not one for violence, but they should be!


50 denk?! "I'll take you to the Candyshop?!"
He's on a par with the Sheff rapper lad type thing from X-Factor.

Someone should bottle him, and Sean Fiddy/Puffy Coombs too, for milking/wringing every little bit outta Notorious BIG tracks!

Billy Bragg - 'lyrical dexterity'? Surely some mistake. :gag:
There's a difference between appreciating his music (and, perhaps, his politics) and acknowledging his talent as a lyricist.

He's hardly up there with Elvis Costello and Billy Bragg in terms of lyrical dexterity, is he?

You could argue that Elvis Costello and Billy Brag are crap rappers too.

You could argue that Elvis Costello and Billy Brag are crap rappers too.
I would definitely agree that rapping would perhaps not be a Bragg or Costello speciality. The award wasn't for rapping though, was it? It was for song writing. Although I acknowledge that it is difficult to compare genres.

There's a difference between appreciating his music (and, perhaps, his politics) and acknowledging his talent as a lyricist.

No, Hecate noooo.

Crude, sub-'0' level, 'see it coming a mile off', sloganeering and radical chic posturing do not a talented lyricist make.

The Dorset multiculturalist's real talent lies in riding on the back of trendy causes and political bandwaggon jumping in lieu of musical ability. There are talented lyricists on the left - Woody Guthrie is the superlative example, as is Shane MacGowan - but the presumptuous mediocrity Bragg is certainly not one of them. Guthrie's songs have outlasted him, as with those of MacGowan's, whereas Bragg's will be mercifully forgotten (that's if anyone remembers any of them anyway).

As for rap music, Eminem is undoubtedly a talented lyricist and his works are destined for immortality. I am sure that the strains of 'if you don't like my music you can suck my ****' will echo down the centuries, as will 'Stan', which is a first-rate piece of 'story in song' writing.

Don't worry, LordC, I won't try to convert you :) . Billy Bragg has moved on and mellowed since the days of Red Wedge though. You have about twenty years' worth of catching up to do...

He'd also agree with you about Woody Guthrie (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000007NC0/qid=1148572489/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_11_4/203-1729911-8155907).

Don't worry, LordC, I won't try to convert you :) . Billy Bragg has moved on and mellowed since the days of Red Wedge though. You have about twenty years' worth of catching up to do...



This would be a Herculean task indeed.

As for 'catching up', well, I will do my very best to hide my disappointment in not having either the time or the inclination to do any such thing. I do seriously wonder if his career would have lasted anything like 20 years had he not hitched himself to trendy leftist causes, like a third-rate Geldoff, and networked for all he is worth on the luvvy media circuit.

LordC, I think it's likely that you're speaking from a superficial familiarity with Billy Bragg's work. Seek this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000BVM01/qid=1148576050/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/203-1729911-8155907) out. I'd hate to think that your views were based on knowing his political leanings and on having heard 'A New England' once in 1987.

If your taste doesn't run to Bragg, then perhaps this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009RJPC8/qid=1148576208/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/203-1729911-8155907) might be more your style? ;) .

LordC, I think it's likely that you're speaking from a superficial familiarity with Billy Bragg's work. Seek this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000BVM01/qid=1148576050/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/203-1729911-8155907) out. I'd hate to think that your views were based on knowing his political leanings and on having heard 'A New England' once in 1987.

If your taste doesn't run to Bragg, then perhaps this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009RJPC8/qid=1148576208/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/203-1729911-8155907) might be more your style? ;) .

Hecate, I note that the 'definitive' album you mention is based on only two reviews, even though its been out for a long while. I wonder how popular he really is and who he really appeals to.

I still suspect he would sink into merciful oblivion were it not for his talent for backing into the limelight and engaging in egotistical political posturing. 'Bragg? oh yes, I know him - he's on the radio every Thursday morning'...no, not that one, the one who is a political activist and leftist preacher..'.

When a musician becomes more famous for his politics rather than for the strength or intrinsic merits of his music, alarm bells start ringing - and my personal crap detector starts buzzing.

I didn't read the reviews. I suggested that particular album as it constitutes a representative collection of his work to date.

With the exception of 'A New England' and 'Greetings to the New Brunette', I wasn't, until recently, too familiar with his more political work from the 80s. Songs like 'Must I Paint You a Picture' and 'The Price I Pay' initially attracted my attention.

As for who he appeals to; well, he appeals to me, which is all I'm really concerned about. I'm perfectly happy with the idea that others might not share my musical taste.

Someone at work today commented if half of the 80's act "Dollar" went solo (i.e. David Van Day) could they advertise themselves as 50 cent and packs somewhere full of gullible r'n'b fans?

When a musician becomes more famous for his politics rather than for the strength or intrinsic merits of his music, alarm bells start ringing - and my personal crap detector starts buzzing.

Give over, you are way off the mark here in my opinion also.

The bottles thrown were plastic water bottles.

Billy Bragg is a brilliant writer even if he does not appeal to you ;)