Did anyone else notice in the local paper last week that Woodseats has suffered a drop in interest from housebuyers, and is one of the areas with the lowest rise in prices?

It looks to me like the mess they've made of the traffic system in and out of Woodseats has had it's effect...If I was a homeowner there, I'd be furious. As it is, I live near enough to wonder when my property, too, will become de-valued.

I like Woodseats, it has a nice little shopping area, and some pleasant tree-lined streets...but if you mention it to me now, I just think of traffic and frustration and parking nightmares.

Or is this drop down to something else?

Nah. . it's true. . woodseats was beginning to get good but got shafted when chesterfield rd went all wrong. . .

. . I was up near the big tree before moving to bottom of woodseats/abbeydale rd area and when I go back up there. . it looks nowt like it used too. .

Since the changes to the traffic, I have noticed that the area is pretty much one big car park anytime of day. At least before the changes, the area was slow only at peak times.

Its a shame, but in my opinion, - on this strategy, the council got it wrong.

The Council really takes an award for that traffic mis-management scheme, how anybody thought it would improve things is beyond reason.

Combine that with closing off any alternatives they can and you have too much traffic, too many lights, not enough road space, no tram to lighten the load, in short a nightmare. The council really needs to listen to local people and put their hands up and do something about it, I've met nobody who thinks it's done anything but made matters worse.

It used to be that it was only really busy at rush hour, it's now awful most of the time, blocked up form Homebase right up to Abbey Lane. The side streets all suffer with parking over spill so all in all it's bound to effect street prices. Just glad I don't live there!

It's a shame because the shopping was/is quite good, though the pubs are a bit rough to say the least :rolleyes:

This factor does not seem to be affecting house prices in Crookes or Walkley though.

woodseats is ace. brilliant butchers, excellent computer shop (very helpful owner), the BEST fishmonger in the universe, and great chazza shops. plus its not trendy, always a bonus. i love woodseats, me :)

Norton Lees prices don't seem to be suffering. I can't believe the prices some in our area are advertised at... and with Blundells, too!

That said, it's a lovely area, and the "traffic hell" that is Chesterfield road is (a) not that bad really, and (b) easily avoided.

I know we have wowed on about the traffic issues over and over again, and for good reason, but if you ask me, as soon as it starts to affect house prices - and quite possibly the shop owners, as I know many people who would no longer choose to shop there or go anywhere near there due to the chaos - it becomes an even more serious matter.
Car driver or not, I have the right to NOT have my property depreciate in value due to a muddle up of these kind of proportions. Now it has moved on to a new level, honestly. This area could be killed off and left to rot by these issues, and all at a time when our Council is supposed to be about improving and regenerating our city.
I'm seething about it. Does it show, lol.

Norton Lees prices don't seem to be suffering. I can't believe the prices some in our area are advertised at... and with Blundells, too!

That said, it's a lovely area, and the "traffic hell" that is Chesterfield road is (a) not that bad really, and (b) easily avoided.

Not that easily avoided. I know prices in our area don't seem to be suffering too much just now (doubtless to the magnificent quality of its residents, lol), but as the traffic blocks further and further back, and you're pushed on to more and more extreme long-cuts to get anywhere - hello, SCC, Chesterfield RD is a MAIN ROUTE into and out of Sheffield - I think it will start to have an effect on those of us living close to it.

And as to losing my closest decent shopping area because it's just too chaotic to contemplate - it's not good enough.

Norton Lees prices don't seem to be suffering. I can't believe the prices some in our area are advertised at... and with Blundells, too!

That said, it's a lovely area, and the "traffic hell" that is Chesterfield road is (a) not that bad really, and (b) easily avoided.
True in Norton Lees, but friends who are stuck down in Woodseats, a) can't avoid it and b) find it really bad. :(

And as to losing my closest decent shopping area because it's just too chaotic to contemplate - it's not good enough.

That's true. Mind, I can't understand the mentality of people who insist on blocking the road waiting for a specific space outside the shop of their choice. The carpark by iceland always seems to have spaces in it. Seems to me that we're all getting too much like america, and relying more on cars and less on our legs for everything.

Mind you, I'm very reluctant to walk down to chesterfield road... I just hate the thought of walking back up that hill with my shopping!

From my point of view I think that is a red herring. Vendors have been far too greedy in the last year and lots of houses remain unsold because they are overpriced. A trip up the road often will find a house at the same price but with a garage and a bigger garden just because it is up in greenhill in the nice bit.
Some of the terraced houses for sale for 175K on my road are frankly rediculous. A more realistic price would be about 130k.

what's a chazza shop?

edit: oh stupid me ... as I pressed go! it struck me ... charity shop ... :P

From my point of view I think that is a red herring. Vendors have been far too greedy in the last year and lots of houses remain unsold because they are overpriced. A trip up the road often will find a house at the same price but with a garage and a bigger garden just because it is up in greenhill in the nice bit.

Erm, houses in Greenhill (apart from the ex-council parts) are more expensive than they are in Woodseats. I've seen 3 bed semis advertised in Woodseats for invariably the £150k mark, whereas in Greenhill they're £180k and upwards.

im not suprised now that the council has mucked up woodseats

Erm, houses in Greenhill (apart from the ex-council parts) are more expensive than they are in Woodseats. I've seen 3 bed semis advertised in Woodseats for invariably the £150k mark, whereas in Greenhill they're £180k and upwards.


that is bad glad i dont live in woodseats now

Erm, houses in Greenhill (apart from the ex-council parts) are more expensive than they are in Woodseats. I've seen 3 bed semis advertised in Woodseats for invariably the £150k mark, whereas in Greenhill they're £180k and upwards.

Of course,
However there are people selling houses for £150k in woodseats, and people are coming down from greenhill to find out why a mid terrace house in woodseats is priced so high, when they have a much better house up the hill for the same price.
I'm not making this up it has happed a couple of times on my road, I have been discussing it with my neighbours and we think that some of the people who are trying to sell their houses at inflated prices have a bit of a cheek. That's why some houses are advertised for sale year after year and never sell, Because the owners are speculating and waiting for extended time until some fool comes along gives them over the odds for their house.

Greenhill ( the nice parts ) is more spaced out and leafy than woodseats with more modern houses, drives, garages, grass verges, decent front gardens, but you get a lot for your money its a good place to buy. The houses up there you would expect them to be at least 50% more expensive for the same amount of bedrooms but they are often only 0% to 20% more expensive.

If you want to find out what houses actually sell for (rather than the price they're advertised at), go to NetHousePrices (http://www.nethouseprices.com/index.php?con=sold_prices)

Woodseats like plenty of other places in the city are getting hopelessly choked with too much traffic. I can remember ten years ago traffic at a snails pace from Homebase.
I've not noticed much difference when approaching Woodseats from town but the trip down from Meadowhead is a different story, somebodies made a boo-boo.
I don't think the traffic problems will kill the area off as so many of the local people use the vast majority of shops. So rather than grumping about the situation why don't people start offering real solutions, just an idea.
Does anyone know what happened at the public meeting that took place a few weeks ago?

snippy - Does anyone know what happened at the public meeting that took place a few weeks ago?

A well attended meeting and lots of questions asked and answered where possible, unanswered questions to be followed up in writing. The upshot was that there would be another meeting in 6 (?) months I think for further feedback, and for the finished scheme to have a chance to bed in for want of a better word.

I live in the S8 area and have to agree about the disgraceful way in which the Council is ignoring the concerns of local residents. I have to take my daughter to Woodseats school every day and every day I sit in a line of traffic going nowhere! Luckily my daughter goes to Meadowhead in September so I will be attempting to avoid at all costs Chesterfield Road, which I feel is a real shame as the shops are very handy. I really do feel sorry for local shop owners who will suffer because of the councils mismanagement and shoddy attitude towards the "traffic calming catastrophe".

There is a Park Heeley Area Panel meeting tonight (16-05-06) to discuss HIghways issues and the Safer Neighbourhood Scheme (police). The traffic issues dealt with will be Heeley, Meersbrook, Norton Lees in the main, tho it has been suggested that someone able to represent the Woodseats issues should also attend, as what happens in Woodseats and Chesterfield Road has a direct impact on most of us.

The meeting is from 7pm to 9pm at Carfield School on Argyle Road. Public meeting, as always, friendly, and all welcome.

Unfortunatley for woodseats its the shortest route for most people who need to access the town centre.I work on woodseats and live near woodseats and unless they pull about 20 thousand houses down,Which isnt an option,and build an alternernative route it is only going to get worse.