Went for a run this morning. aah [Archive]

beth29

07-05-2006, 16:02

wysiwyg

07-05-2006, 17:02

How long was it since you'd last eaten and are you dieting at the moment?

Grahame

07-05-2006, 18:57

I used to run as soon as I got home from work and before I had eaten. Then a long soak in a lovely hot bath, then a meal, then feet up in front of the telly, feeling all warm and glowing inside. Lovely.

Grahame

07-05-2006, 19:24

Just to add a rider, when I first started jogging thirty years ago I was the same as you. So I ran from one lamp post to the next and had a breather, and so on. (Even top runners do this, it's called interval training, but they do it for a different reason) It was three months before I could run all the way round without stopping (three miles) I felt so good I ran round again to celebrate, and still felt good.

But I always thought a mile a day for five days was better than doing five miles on a Sunday morning all in one go. It's too much of a shock to the system but if you do it little and often your body gets used to it and you get into a rhythm and then it just comes naturally.

If it was raining I didn't go out training and I counted it as a rest day, so that way I was able to run when the weather was nice and I still got out about five times a week.

Don’t forget that if you have never run before, or you haven’t run for a very long time, then to run only one mile from a starting point of zero is one heck of a percentage increase so it is only natural it will be hard.

The other thing was, I found keeping a training diary very useful and if I did eat, then I found I needed to wait at least an hour for it to settle.

The maxim, "Little and often" is very good advise.

Hope it helps.

Fudbeer

07-05-2006, 19:27

I went for a v.short jog/run this morning. first time.
I went with my husband. got to the bottom of the road, had to walk. nearly died. I warmed up, but the problem was I didnt have anything to eat.
I started off too quickly and didnt stride far enough. I felt so unfit.
I walked half and did run quite a bit.
I came back, straight away i felt awful/faint dizzy.
can anyone just get up and run.
just hard for me.

i would like some help
??

Hi Beth

First thing is I would always have something to eat and drink before running I find a banana is great before a run.

i would also say its best not to run just after getting up as i find it much harder i usually have been up for at least and hour before running.

if you are not used to running then start really slow and do a run/walk and run at the slowest speed you can

it is best to start with an easy flat route not easy in sheff i know but build up gradually.

keep at it though as done right running is great fun and makes u feel great.

also make sure u have proper running shoes its the only real expense with running but needs to be done go to keep on running or decathlon they are not that expensive.

see http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/ for more advice

good luck btw the pounds soon drop off when running if you want to lose weight

Toto

07-05-2006, 19:38

Hi Beth

I've just started running and as I know I am very unfit and found a training plan which builds you up gradually. Week 1 I did 1min run 1.5min walk for 20 mins. Week 2 I did 1.5min run, 2min walk for 20 mins. it carries on until you can run continuously. I also tend to feel a bit faint unless I've eaten so I usually have a banana. If I eat too much I tend to feel sick! Good luck. Lizx

beth29

07-05-2006, 20:12

Grahame

07-05-2006, 20:19

Hi.
My husband has been running before. and I thought I want to try it. so I did start off too quickly. as he is taller than me. and I was trying to keep up.
he said not to eat before going as you get stitch. so I just hada glass of water. I am not dieting. i dont need to lose weight, just get fit. i feel that I found it hard breathing.
i want to keep at it. I just feel really unfit. I do go to the gym but not been for a while.
What time could I have a banana in the morning & then go.

he probably wont go with me again..
?
It's best to run with people of similar ability, I hated running with people who were slower than me because it slowed me down. Just give anything you eat time to digest, an hour should do it for a bannana but learn to listen to your body. :)

If you can find someone to run with then its good to have a natter as you go round, If you have the breath to talk then you are probably pushing yourself as hard as you need to.

beth29

07-05-2006, 20:22

I ate the night before, 7pm ish. but then a couple glasses of wine and that was it.
is drinking not good before. the night before.
?
Is it ok to walk a bit as well as I did. I never had to stop.

Grahame

07-05-2006, 20:30

I ate the night before, 7pm ish. but then a couple glasses of wine and that was it.
is drinking not good before. the night before.
?
Not a problem, but try to have a glass of milk before going to bed or at least a glass of water, alchol can be a bit dehydrating. I didn't like to have a drink before I went out because it was just slopping around in my stomach. A slice of toast or a banna and a cup of tea about an hour before you go running should be about right, but your body will adjust anyway, once it gets over the shock of doing something its not used to doing.

It is fine to walk a bit, try to do as your body tells you, in our minds we want to be marathon runners but our bodies won't let us, not at first anyway and nature can't be hurried. You have made a step in the right direction, just keep doing it and you will get stronger, fitter and faster, but don't go mad, I can tell you won't, cheers.

beth29

08-05-2006, 11:17

Hi. my legs really ache today which is good. moreso then going to the gym for a hour.
wonder if its better than going to the gym.

sharpend

08-05-2006, 11:36

Hi. my legs really ache today which is good. moreso then going to the gym for a hour.
wonder if its better than going to the gym.

Not better - maybe different - you have just used different muscle groups

Grahame

08-05-2006, 14:06

Hi. my legs really ache today which is good. moreso then going to the gym for a hour.
wonder if its better than going to the gym.
I have never been to a gym so I don’t know what it is like to run on a treadmill but I always think you can’t beat the real thing, it’s cheaper, and fun runs etc. are run on the roads not treadmills. The only difference is you need to be able to motivate yourself.

It’s good your legs are aching and if I were you I would wait until you have recovered and do the same run again. Then see how you feel after a night’s sleep and when you have stopped aching do the same run again until you can do it without any adverse effects. While you are repeating your runs you may find your time improves.

You will know things are going well when you finish your run and you are feeling really good and you think to yourself, “By golly I enjoyed that I could do it all over again.”

Then when you feel comfortable with what you are doing, repeat it a couple of times to consolidate it, and then think about extending the distance.

See how you go, but aching legs are a good indicator of how you are, there are other indicators and that is what I meant by listening to your body.

It sounds like you are doing well.

Good on you.

*Ryan*

08-05-2006, 14:29

Best advice i can say is .. You cant drive a car without petrol.. Works the same with your body, no difference.. Have either porridge or baked potatoe if u can(2 best things.) :)

beth29

08-05-2006, 15:02

*Ryan*

08-05-2006, 15:15

Thanks Ryan.
baked potato in a morning. thats a no.
how soon can you eat before, before going to the gym or running.

I didnt feel happy having nothing before a run.
but my husband said you dont need anything first thing.
but he was fine when he came back.
but it was my first time. I think I did ok.

bloody ache today !!!
he-hee

:thumbsup:

Of course u will ache as its ur first time. Ok, porridge in the morning as it has complex carbs(last longer, hence run longer). I dunno what job your husband does but he might do more walking at work?.. :)

beth29

08-05-2006, 15:21

He's a sparkie.
Can anyone recommend a good flatish route to go jogging.
?
What about a banana before going. !?

Trotterette

08-05-2006, 16:19

Hi one and all!!

I've quite recently started running too - and when I do actually get myself in gear, I love it!

I replied to a thread on here for someone to run with - I knew I'd need the motivation from someone else and wouldnt keep it up on my own -and I met a really nice guy (RichK).
We now go running about once a week or so - we go at 6.30 in the morning and run for about half an hour.
As its so early in the morning, I dont eat anything before I go, I just have a glass of water, and although Im pretty tired by the end of the run, Im fine hunger wise and dont feel faint or sick.

RichK works away quite alot, hence only running with him about once a week, but I'd love to do it more often and have actually managed to run upto 3 times a week without him (progress for me!).
Ideally I'd like to run about 4 times a week (although maybe this is too much??).
I much prefer running with someone though, so if anyone is up for it....??!!

I generally run around Crosspool / Broomhill / Crookes area. The route through Crosspool is reasonably flat (well, as well as it can be in Sheffield!!). But I do find that although running up hill is a struggle, you do feel like you've achieved something once you've reached the top, and you always have to run down again which is easy!!

:D

Crayfish

08-05-2006, 17:43

I usually feel good at training if I don't eat too much before but just have a banana or something and lots of liquid. Don't know if the same things apply to jogging as martial arts but I wouldn't recommend eating too much, if I eat a pizza it'll only want to come back at some point.

beth29

11-05-2006, 15:54

I am only 5ft 2. obviously people taller than me are going to take wider strides so I will double my steps to keep up wont I
?
are you supposed to take short or long strides in running/jogging?

Grahame

11-05-2006, 16:39

Your running stance changes as you get fitter and faster. Watch athletic events on TV. The sprinters have one style, the marathon runners another style and the middle distance runners, say the 1500K will have a style somewhere in-between.

Try to copy the marathon runners, they conserve their energy with a nice easy relaxed style that resembles a shuffle, if you can call 5 minute miles a shuffle. The point is they hardly lift their feet off the ground, and that is what you will be doing at this stage anyway. Seb Coe used to take 2 metre strides, but don't even attempt it. Take short strides, keep your feet close to the ground and try to run tall, with your back straight and you head held high. (Try not to look like a boxer all hunched up stabbing at the air with your fists.)

Remember you are running forward and many new runners kick their legs out sideways, they flop their arms all over the place, their heads sway from side to side and this causes them to loose speed and energy, running economically is the name of the game, keep looking forward, kick your feet forward, keep your arms relaxed and pumping in a straight line forward and backwards and the speed at which you pump your arms will control how fast your feet go.

Perhaps that's too much? Just concentrate on straight line running, stay tall, keep you trainers close to the ground, don't even worry about stride length and everything will come right.

Mind you it sounds as though your husband is the best coach in your house. Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Grahame

11-05-2006, 17:59

Hi one and all!!

We now go running about once a week or so - we go at 6.30 in the morning and run for about half an hour.
I generally run around Crosspool / Broomhill / Crookes area. The route through Crosspool is reasonably flat (well, as well as it can be in Sheffield!!).
:D
I sometime see runners on Crookes as I'm driving to work about 6:40am, I wonder if you are one of them? :)

dickdick69

12-05-2006, 06:56

Ousetunes

12-05-2006, 07:39

hi i recently started running also mainly to lose weight and i have lost 1 1/2 stone(yeaaah). i can manage upto 6.5 mile now only thing is my shins really hurt the next day and sometimes whilst running....can anyone tell me what this is..why they start hurting...and what i can do to prevent it
cheers

I'd guess you're suffering from shin splints. This could be down to you increasing your mileage too soon and/or down to the type of running shoe. It's imperative that you are running in the correct shoe - especially if you're of a large build.

A good sports/running shop (such as the one down Attercliffe) will help you choose the correct type of shoe. This will reduce and hopefully eradicate these symptoms. Do a wet foot test to see how you pronate - that is, how your foot lands and where the most pressure is applied. Certain shoes allow for over-pronation (and under-pronation), others allow greater flexibility and rigidity.

You could also benefit from a training programme so as to not overdo it! Try http://www.runnersworld.co.uk.

Finally, congratulations on your weight loss.

Enjoy.

dickdick69

12-05-2006, 08:42

cheers for the info mate and yes you are right i probably have pushed myself to hard as i have a "the more i try the better i become" mentallity and also am just using some cross training trainers out of the cupboard. i will have to save up for some proper running trainers and go down to the shop for advice.:)

Henrietta

12-05-2006, 12:09

Well done Beth!

The truth is that each time you go out it gets a little bit easier :thumbsup:

Its best to allow at least half an hour after eating somehing like a small bowl of cereal, or a banana before exerting yourself. :)

Its good to have a glass of juice/water then too.

Make sure you aren't generally dehydrated anyway - it will make it feel much harder when taking exercise - you can judge this by the colour of your pee :hihi: i.e. the darker it is, the more water you need in your body! :)

Its probably best not to try and keep up with your hubby if he is fit and you aren't yet! It'll be really hard work and might put you off sticking at it.

beth29

12-05-2006, 12:20

aye. that is it my husband, he is probably a little bothered shocked as how I went. I wasnt bad at all. just not up to his standards. later that day we went to see my family. he didnt mention it. that we went running. as he thoughtr I might had been embarrased. I wasnt. that annoyed me, that i had tried and gave it a go.

so I am not sure when we or I am going to out again.

DaFoot

12-05-2006, 12:29

Vicjack78

12-05-2006, 12:49

Hi Dafoot

I too suffer from problems with my shins. Can I just ask where you bought your trainers from as I think it is about time I got some proper advice.

Thanks

DaFoot

12-05-2006, 13:01

Hi Dafoot

I too suffer from problems with my shins. Can I just ask where you bought your trainers from as I think it is about time I got some proper advice.

Thanks
Shop in Attercliffe, I forget the name. On the main road through with all the shops on it.

Near 'the snake shop' (678 Attercliffe Road according to their website) if that helps any?!

Can only recommend them, the guy I spoke to seemed very clued up on his hobby (eg. spotting I am slightly flat footed) not just a sales bod.

Grahame

12-05-2006, 13:25

aye. that is it my husband, he is probably a little bothered shocked as how I went. I wasn't bad at all. just not up to his standards. later that day we went to see my family. he didn't mention it. that we went running. as he thoughtr I might had been embarrassed. I wasn't. that annoyed me, that i had tried and gave it a go.

so I am not sure when we or I am going to out again.
There's no need to be embarrassed, it's a feather in your cap whatever way you look at it. Things like that just annoy me and make me say, "You just wait, I'll show you!" :)

nomme

12-05-2006, 13:34

Shop in Attercliffe, I forget the name. On the main road through with all the shops on it.

It's called 'keep on running".

http://www.keep-on-running.co.uk/

Well worth a visit.

Nomme

nomme

12-05-2006, 13:48

Oh and while I'm thinking about it a couple of things I'd recommend:

1) Make sure your toenails are well trimmed. (to avoid what is known as black toenail)

2) As well as proper shoes I'd also recommend getting some decent socks too, possibly with extra arch support.

Nomme - who as a result of injury due to running has now done both of the above!

[Edit]... and don't forget to cool down properly and stretch.

[Edit Edit] This is worth a good look at http://www.runnersworld.com/category/1,5034,s6-51-184-0-0,00.html

sharpend

13-05-2006, 07:01

It's called 'keep on running".

http://www.keep-on-running.co.uk/

Well worth a visit.

Nomme

this is the best shop in sheffield - expect to be a while, expect to spend a bit, go in the afternoon when you feet are swollen a bit, go in the week when they are likely to be less busy.

beth29

14-05-2006, 13:11

I have not been out running again since.
I will try and do. how often are you supposed to go. and if you still ache, are you supposed to go then ?

Grahame

14-05-2006, 14:07

I think it is best to wait till you stop aching.

I used to have a regular route and if I felt bad I would have a weeks rest, then after a weeks rest I would do it once that week, then twice the second week, three times the third week and so on until I was doing it five times a week. Then I would stay there until I felt like increasing the distance, but once in a while if I felt tired I would have a break and build up again in the way I described. No doubt other people will have their own ideas.

Some people will pressurise you into doing more than you should, but if you are thinking about making a life style change and you are running for fitness and good health and hopefully prevention of osteoporosis as you get older then you have the rest of your life to get into it. Just take it steady, listen to your body but as soon as you stop aching go out again. I was always worried that if I left it too long then I might never go out running again and it is so important that doesn't happen.

sharpend

15-05-2006, 07:25

its ok to go if you are still sore (or at least i find it ok) You should go steadier but the main thing is to listen to your body.

If the same arm/leg/knee/ankle whatever hurts afterwards each time you go - you need to find the cause and sort it.

Ignoring this is far worse than going whilst stiff and sore

pecdec

27-02-2008, 00:40

scottf

27-02-2008, 10:47

I live in broomhill on manchester road and its really hard cos i want to start jogging but i know whichever way i run im going to have a really hard time either A)at the start when im not fully warmed up or B) at the end when im knackered because of the hill :(

pecdec

27-02-2008, 13:29

ifyour going for a run in the morning i suggest eating extra carb's the night before.eating a banana before running is a bad idea and will give you a stitch!!

pecdec

27-02-2008, 13:42