should fifa rule that the coaches of the national team of any country be the same nationality, the same as the players?

i think it could work. i'm surprised it hasn't been like that from the year dot to be honest, why one rule for players but not the rest of the coaching staff?

should fifa rule that the coaches of the national team of any country be the same nationality, the same as the players?

i think it could work. i'm surprised it hasn't been like that from the year dot to be honest, [QUOTE]why one rule for players but not the rest of the coaching staff?[/

Jack Charlton's creative choice of 'Irish' players must have slipped your mind. If we were limited to an English manager we would have the same choice as we see now, a very poor choice IMO. Does it matter if a top overseas coach gets the best out of our best English players?

it should apply to players too

In an ideal world the FA would be able to pick an England manager from a long list of top English coaches.

Unfortunately, that's not the case.

Who would you rather have managing your club; Curbishley, McClaren, Allardyce......

......or Capello, Wenger, Scolari, Mourinho, Benitez?

I think there should be that and a limit on foreign players like they used to (dunno if that has been discussed, but sure it will have been). Fed up of not seeing enough home-grown talent in the top flight teams, even though it helps in Europe.

No - when it comes to managers it should be best man for the job- just like every single other job in the world!!!!

No - when it comes to managers it should be best man for the job- just like every single other job in the world!!!!

Exactly my feelings.

No - when it comes to managers it should be best man for the job- just like every single other job in the world!!!!


So why should it be different for the players but not for the manager. IMO everyone involved in the England football team should be English. That goes for players and coahing staff.

just to clarify, i meant international set up not domestic

Ask yourself a very simple question...

If England won the World Cup with Sven would you care a stuff that he wasn't English?

Of course not, so there's your answer.

Ask yourself a very simple question...

If England won the World Cup with Sven would you care a stuff that he wasn't English?

Of course not, so there's your answer.


Thats true, howver, would it still not feel a hell of a lot better if it was an English manager? It just doesnt seem right that England, doesnt have an English manager.

Ask yourself a very simple question...

If England won the World Cup with Sven would you care a stuff that he wasn't English?

Of course not, so there's your answer.

..And the day England win the world cup with Sven- I will bare my arse in Woolies window! :) :thumbsup:

Not gonna happen people.

I agree with gypo though- you cant compare McLaren with someone FAR better like Hiddink or Capello or people as good as them.

So no, I dont think the managers nationality should be the same as the international team they represent.

So no, I dont think the managers nationality should be the same as the international team they represent.

thats only because it suits us at the moment. Other teams would have the same disadvanteges

..And the day England win the world cup with Sven- I will bare my arse in Woolies window! :) :thumbsup:

Not gonna happen people.
I wasn't suggesting for a moment that they will :)

Now then - betfair, I wonder what I'll get to lay them? :hihi:

thats only because it suits us at the moment. Other teams would have the same disadvanteges

Not really- check out possible managers for other countries- they have a lot more experience and especially the italian coaches are really world class as well in work ethics and tactics so our english managers dont have that extra touch of class.

Hence, we will be up pooh creek if it ever came to pass.

Not really- check out possible managers for other countries- they have a lot more experience and especially the italian coaches are really world class as well in work ethics and tactics so our english managers dont have that extra touch of class.

Hence, we will be up pooh creek if it ever came to pass.

but it's the same for the players. Thats my point. You can't say we don't have a decent left footer or striker so why not get some foreigners in.

In internationals yes........... or whats the point.

Quote "And the day England win the world cup with Sven- I will bare my arse in Woolies window!"


Hillsborough or Moor branch and will you be wearing your Brasil shirt?:hihi: :hihi:

Quote "And the day England win the world cup with Sven- I will bare my arse in Woolies window!"


Hillsborough or Moor branch and will you be wearing your Brasil shirt?:hihi: :hihi:
Which is the biggest one? I think its the Moor one- yep I'll choose that one then :hihi:

I'll wear whatever you people would like me to wear in the window as well - suggestions on here please :)

Thats IF England win the world cup though - not a chance.

Does it matter?

Does it matter?

Yes random stuff in white

..And the day England win the world cup with Sven- I will bare my arse in Woolies window! :) :thumbsup:

Not gonna happen people.


LMAO!

I really want to hold you to that, unfortunately there's no point as England won't win the world cup :(

Ian Wright was in a television interview a few days ago and said "I'd rather England return to the dark ages with an English manager than win the World Cup with a foreign manager".

Interesting outlook from Wrighty.........

simple answer - Yes

simple answer- No :D

simple answer-yes

reason: It is a Football competition between Nations of the world.
The talent of each country versus the rest. If a manager uses his skills /talents for another team paid or not it is going against the natural way of fair play and competition.

It is a Football competition between Nations of the world.
The talent of each country versus the rest. If a manager uses his skills /talents for another team paid or not it is going against the natural way of fair play and competition.

Half the Republic of Ireland team are usually from anywhere but Ireland.

Most successful Republic of Ireland manager by far, Ashington's Jack Charlton!

Half the Republic of Ireland team are usually from anywhere but Ireland.

That is exactly my point would the Irish be happy if they won anything ?

Well probably yes they would.

But a Nation would have a real feelgood factor when it feels that all concerned are born and bred.
You know the feeling just is'nt quite right when we have a world champion boxer /tennis player who are really Canadian or whatever. Nothing against Canadians my sister is now Canadian. Should we win the world cup by some chance under Sven it would not be quite as good as under an Englishman or woman.

At the end of the day it is a job and nationality should not some into it! To refuse a european person employment based on their nationality violates many employment laws.

Ask yourself this question. If Capello or Wenger had expressed interest in the England job, could you really snub them in favour of an Englishman such as Curbishley or McClaren, whilst knowing that they would probably do a better job??

I really am torn. When Sven first took over I thought great! He'll be able to detatch himself from England and think with his head and not with his heart. But now I think I want some raw passion and a bit of heart!

At the end of the day it is a job and nationality should not some into it! To refuse a european person employment based on their nationality violates many employment laws.

Ask yourself this question. If Capello or Wenger had expressed interest in the England job, could you really snub them in favour of an Englishman such as Curbishley or McClaren, whilst knowing that they would probably do a better job??

I really am torn. When Sven first took over I thought great! He'll be able to detatch himself from England and think with his head and not with his heart. But now I think I want some raw passion and a bit of heart!

But should it be classed as a job? I know Sven was on millions (absolutley potty). I am pretty sure that many good English coaches/managers would run England for pride not pay. The "job" of England manager could be carried out by a top English manager already in paid employment with a top team.
Thus proving commitment, loyalty passion. On the subject of pay, digressing slightly, I don't see why players should get paid any more than expenses, when appearing for England, for the same reasons.

I know that there are not too many English managers with top teams but I honestly believe that is more to do with past desperation of chairmen and current fashions unfortunately keeping home grown talent down .Again I believe this also applies to young English and British footballers being stifled by the trend to grab any foreign talent cheap or not so cheap for those clubs with millionaire owners, using money stolen off the backs of the soviet people.

how many players in this day and age would bother appearing?

I know that there are not too many English managers with top teams but I honestly believe that is more to do with past desperation of chairmen and current fashions unfortunately keeping home grown talent down

I see your point, but;

Arsene Wenger
Alex Ferguson
Jose Mourinho

Name an English manager on a par with any of these from the last 15 years... :huh:

i'm not asking are english managers talented? i'm asking if the rules which apply for players should also apply for coaching staff.