Jon
21-05-2003, 01:41
Who remembers the best toy shop in the world Redgates? I bought all my Subbuteo teams at Redgates (now Sunwin House) :D
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Jon 21-05-2003, 01:41 Who remembers the best toy shop in the world Redgates? I bought all my Subbuteo teams at Redgates (now Sunwin House) :D max 21-05-2003, 08:43 It was nice having friends with kids so I could use them as an excuse to pop into Redgates. Unfortunately, Hamlyns opened a branch opposite the Peace Gardens which brought competition so Redgates closed followed shortly by Hamlyns. Michael_W 21-05-2003, 17:19 Moved this into History Forum Jon, yes I remember Redgates and I used to get my Subbuteo teams from there too.....Subbuteo brings back memories, I had many a brawl with my brother over that game when we were kids, he was the clumsy buggar who always broke the players :wink: BTW - wasn't Redgates originally on the Moor before moving round the corner ? graham_mca 27-05-2003, 21:06 It always struck me as curious that Redgates had that passageway that led into.... Lonsdale Universal... was it.... the stationary shop... fading memory here. Anyone else remember that? graham_mca Chris 27-05-2003, 23:18 I remember Redgates but don't remember buying much there - Coles' Lego was cheaper and I wasn't interested in much else as a kid :) You can all blame me for it closing down... :oops: Banksia 09-06-2003, 08:02 I remember my brother and I going into Redgates every week to pay a few pennies into our Christmas Club. Through the weeks we would wander around the shop looking and dreaming about what we would eventually be able to afford to get with our meagre savings.When it came time to redeem our cards we were SO excited. The atmosphere of the shop was wonderful too, all decked out in trimmings, tinsel and christmas trees and of course there was the mandatory Grotto and Santa. Of course, this was before the age of computer games and the like. We were more than happy if we could get a new Teddy for our younger sister in those days. This sounds like a whinge but it isn't. I feel sad for kids today cos' they will never have the wonderful memories of childhood that I have. Redgates.... yes... very fond memories ! :D :D PaulTansley 09-06-2003, 10:56 When i was a child there were no toy shops around, i think everybody went to Redgates in those days. Angie v 13-06-2003, 21:33 "Redgates" What a fantastic place, many child hood memories stem from there, my favourite bit was the dolls house in the glass case downstaris. :P graingerr 29-08-2003, 13:18 My memory of Redgates.............. December 1970 - Christmas shopping with my family (aged 6), lift doors opened and out came Father Christmas. W..o..w - and yes, we did get what we showed him - talkie dolls! Lickszz 29-08-2003, 14:07 As a kid Redgates was my favourite place. Got all my toys from there. Mainly downstairs if I remember right. I was gutted when it closed. moggy6 03-03-2004, 15:06 I remember Redgates as a child of about 10 year old about 1957 used to go in town on my own on Saturday and head for Redgates from Division Street, not much in the way of buildings around in those days as a lot was bombed. I would head for the basement and stand watching the Disabled chap operate the Hornby Train set in the middle of the basement I could stand there for hours. Anyone remember it. A bit different today, the last time I went into the shop was about 20 years ago. Regards John.m Abdul 03-03-2004, 17:24 Redgates, Hamleys and Beatties - why did all the good toy shops go? :cry: saxon51 03-03-2004, 19:34 Redgates, wow! In through the door, and what's the first thing you saw? A glass case displaying Brittain's farm animals. That alone was worth the visit for a scruffy six year old with a model farmyard at home. :clap: Funky Dave 03-03-2004, 22:28 I bought loads of toy soldiers from there! Redgates was amazing!!! mega_monty 03-03-2004, 22:50 I used to buy all my scalextric cars from Redgates, all of which I still have today. I remember they had a model train layout suspended from the ceiling. johnjo 04-03-2004, 10:38 I can remember being in Redgates waiting for Darth Vader to make an appearance. I was mesmerised by him when he did, he looked HUGE!!:P pauline 04-03-2004, 21:06 not wanting to show my age,but they also had a shop in fizalan square,i got my first pram from there,coach built too:D ,also i saved my pocket money for a doll she cost me 27 shillings and sixpence,lond blond hair and i cut it all off 3 months later:) Kristian 04-03-2004, 23:37 My Mom used to work in Redgates during the late sixties (long before I was born!) She once told me that when she was working downstairs there on a Saturday afternoon, Woolworths phoned to warn them that they had just thrown a gang of teenagers out for shoplifting. No sooner had Redgates taken the call that the same kids appeared and let off stink bombs in the basement of Redgates that they'd just pinched from Woolies! Apparrently the shop emptied very quickly... roth ghost 05-03-2004, 21:43 Don't you think that redgates brought the magic to christmas, i can remember been taken their as a child around christmas to see father christmas, the lights and all the toys displayed in the shop windows, it was every childs dream! now all you have is an over inflated priced Murderhell with queue after queue of spoilt screaming kids. And at 33 i was refused entry to see santa!! ha ha ha, had a wonderfull christmas with my 3 kids this year but the magic just dosn't seem to be there anymore, theres too much competition with who gets what and how much it cost! quite sad really!!!!! pietro 12-06-2004, 17:12 As quoted by pauline not wanting to show my age,but they also had a shop in fizalan square,i got my first pram from there,coach built too ,also i saved my pocket money for a doll she cost me 27 shillings and sixpence,lond blond hair and i cut it all off 3 months later Today I suddenly remembered the name of the shop in Fitzalan Suare, Wilson Gumperts. If I remember correctly it was something to do with Redgates. It was a tiny shop (now an insurance office). The ground floor was the girly stuff but down in the basement it was everything that Redgates was but in minature. Train sets, toy guns, model planes, every bit of space was crammed with everything a boy could wish for. headup 12-06-2004, 17:33 I loved Redgates. My favourite thing was the Action Man wall. It seemed to be high up and was built to look like a mountainside. I remember being particularly impressed with the bearded Action Man! :D As for Christmas - I never saw 'Santa' there, but at Castle House with the cool Reindeer ride (one year it was Spacemen as I recall...weird) and then getting a gift from Santa. lucasdigital 12-06-2004, 19:12 Originally posted by johnjo I can remember being in Redgates waiting for Darth Vader to make an appearance. I was mesmerised by him when he did, he looked HUGE!!:P You to?!! Was that you who got big Ds signature scrawled on your forehead. Unless he made a regular visits I was there too! :-) Redgates was the bees knees. It was the Mecha of Mechano, The Sanctuary of Starwars Figures the Boudoir of Barbie..err.. ahem. On another note, if what I was told was true it was driven out of business by Hamleys which itself closed down while the corpse that was Redgates was still warm. Business ethics..I think not. Greybeard 12-06-2004, 22:58 I thought Redgates was at the bottom of Ecclesall Road when I was a lad....opposite the S & E Dept store. Or is my memory playing tricks on me ? owdlad 13-06-2004, 07:36 It's playing tricks on you Greybeard.......it was just off the moor and eyre street....we went passed it yesterday and my missis who used to work there still looks at it and shakes her head in disbelief.....and like a female Victor Meldrew utters " I can't believe what they've done to Redgates" pietro 13-06-2004, 08:50 As quoted by Owdlad. it was just off the moor and eyre street.... It may have been just off the Moor in your day Owdlad but the original and best Redgates (in my opinion) was on the Moor. (Is it some sort of sports shop now?).Three floors of childhood dreams. Oh, for just five minutes again in that shop and a big pile of money. Greybeard 13-06-2004, 15:22 Pietro I'm thinking of when most of the Moor was bomb sites, and Atkinsons was in an old cinema on the oppsite side of the Moor to where it is now...probably 1948-52. I think Redgates original shop, which burnt out during the war, was at Moorhead...very close to where Sunwin House is now but on the corner facing the Moor and up Pinstone St...where MacDonalds is now. I feel sure I remember their shop on Ecclesall Road. When did they move into the new shop on Furnival Gate and from where ? That sports shop you have in mind (was Suggs for a long time) is on the corner of Charles and Pinstone Streets. Rich 13-06-2004, 17:42 Originally posted by johnjo I can remember being in Redgates waiting for Darth Vader to make an appearance. I was mesmerised by him when he did, he looked HUGE!!:P I once saw Hordak off the old He Man/She Ra cartoons in Redgates, but I cried when I saw him :lol: I thinK I was only 7 at the time, circa 1983. pietro 13-06-2004, 20:34 Greybeard I've been talking with someone older and much wiser than myself today. Like you they can vaguely remember another earlier Redgates in the last block of shops on The Moor before you got to Ecclesall Road. The Redgates that I remember was on The Moor 2 doors up from Woolworths (it is now "Sports Soccer" clothes shop). This is the sports shop I mentioned in my earlier thread, not Suggs which was further up The Moor (Pinstone Street), another Sheffield firm now sadly gone.They moved from here, I think sometime in the early 70's and their shop was taken over by Lonsdale Stationary, no doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Incidently you mentioned the blitz, have you seen this: http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/hpac.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.id=6817 There are many more for like this, for The Moor, if you search. saxon51 13-06-2004, 22:44 I remember Redgates being exactly where Sunwin House is now. In fact if some of you walk into Sunwin House the memories of the layout (if you can imagine stairs where the escalators are now) will come flooding back. I used to see Redgates as I walked all the way down Union Street, at the end, and it seemed to take ages to get there.:thumbsup: Greybeard 13-06-2004, 23:43 Pietro So it would seem Redgates had four different locations...?? Moorhead - which was destroyed in the war Moorfoot - close to the bottom of Ecclesall Road Moorhead - corner of Furnival Gate and The Moor Furnival Gate - now Sunwin House I was away from Sheffield from 1957 to 1976 apart from an occasional visit so missed most of the re-development of The Moor. There is a photo of the remains of Redgates in the 'Shefffield at War' book published by the Star....very similar to the one in the link you posted. Twynnie 15-06-2004, 10:52 What year did redgates close? I think I may have a very vague memory of it from when I was very small, but I could just be imagining it :( Trekker 15-06-2004, 11:22 Twos t toys r us of its day. t only place in town f me Wavey 15-06-2004, 11:28 Remember that fantastic feeling of having your birthday money in your pocket and your Mom and Dad taking you in Redgates to blow it all? heaven. Browsing the games downstairs or taking my pick from the latest Airfix stuff.. bliss. Upstairs was boring though wasn't it? It was just prams and baby stuff as I remember. brooksy 15-06-2004, 15:33 i remember my sister working at redgates and getting my dad some discount on a chopper bike. i think it was 35 pound which was nearly a weeks wages for my dad, seems a life time ago. Striver 15-06-2004, 16:52 I remember being extremely dissapointed on two occasions I visited Redgates in the 1960s. I had saved up for: 1) A "superball" which could be bounced over houses (so the packaging said...). 2) The Corgi James Bond car with working ejector seat. They had sold out. Waaaaaaagh! After many forays to various establishments I eventaually got the James Bond car - but soon lost James (shame - t'would be worth an few bob now..). The superball broke eventually also. Sigh... But Redgates was heaven for a 9 year old. Striver Wavey 15-06-2004, 17:00 Superballs were good for one bounce LOL you'd get it out and give it a good old fling at the floor and it would disappear down the estate never to be seen again. What about those furry worms that you pulled around 'invisibly' with a piece of fishing/garroting line? What were they called Weevils or something? They used to have a video playing in Redgates of this revolutionary new 'pet'. I saved up and got one and pulled the little b*st*rd in half first time I used it LOL asdasdasd 16-06-2004, 01:14 i remember it! redgates was like a lesbian with fancy hair. blonde one like. with average breasts but a great line in toys. custardcream 22-06-2004, 00:17 I used to buy all my Matchbox cars from Redgates...they had all the latest and best range probably in South Yorkshire...shame it had to shut down mojoworking 22-06-2004, 00:24 Originally posted by asdasdasd i remember it! redgates was like a lesbian with fancy hair. blonde one like. with average breasts but a great line in toys. Would you care to elaborate on that? Or are you just talking sh*te for the sake of it? simple_simon 26-07-2004, 11:10 The junior football league - sponsored before the professional leagues - and in its time the biggest junior league in the world - or is it still?? docmel 28-07-2004, 09:04 God - this has stirred some memories. Two floors - ground level and basement. The gorund floor sold Prams and Bikes but I remember them having a huge railway set which could be rigged in the garden and rode on - cost hundreds even back in the 60's - but we lads all dreamt about it. Downstairs - a kid's heaven - with 2/6 pocket money Saturday Mornings were spent as long as Mum could stand it - if Dad took mewe stayed a lot longer 'cus he got tied up with the Models etc. There used to be a ride on helicopter which for 6d - took you up to the ceiling (or so it seemed) - I also remeber the Airfix Models which had been built and hung from the ceiling - the detail was incredible - I once saw the guy who made them - he was in a wheelchair and was painting a model. They also had a sister branch in Fitzalan Square called Wison Gumpits or something - but they mainly sold Prams and Bikes I think PopeyeDoyle 29-07-2004, 04:11 Originally posted by Wavey What about those furry worms that you pulled around 'invisibly' with a piece of fishing/garroting line? What were they called Weevils or something? They used to have a video playing in Redgates of this revolutionary new 'pet'. I saved up and got one and pulled the little b*st*rd in half first time I used it LOL I remember those - they were called 'Squirmels'. I remember seeing TV adverts for them. They looked great and I really wanted one. They turned out to be rubbish though. Redgates was always the best place to buy fireworks. buck 29-07-2004, 20:53 Has everything I knew and loved in my dirty old city gone? Redgates!! There was no place like it for kids. Don't tell me Suggs has gone too, or Albert Butterworth's bike shop in Abbeydale. Or the mucky duck or the Nelson. I know all the Picture Palaces are gone, and probably the City Hall or Mecca dances. Maybe I should never have left. Ir was great fun in the 50s and 60s. pietro 05-08-2004, 14:29 As quoted by Buck Don't tell me Suggs has gone too, or Albert Butterworth's bike shop in Abbeydale. Or the mucky duck or the Nelson. I know all the Picture Palaces are gone, and probably the City Hall or Mecca dances Buck, check your P.M box. Freebird 03-07-2005, 22:59 Used To Love Redgates.Got Loads Of Action Man Stuff From There When I Was A Kid.My Parents Would Always Give Us A Tenner To Spend On Whatever We Wanted On Our Birthdays. I Can Always Remember Dragging My Dad Down There When It Was Coming Upto My Birthday. I Now Go Drinking In The Nelson And The Ammount Of Times People Mention Redgates While Drinking In There Just Shows How Much It Meant To The Kids Of The 70's. Can Anyone Remember What The Toy Shop On Hillsborough Was Called? It Wasn't A Smaller Branch Of Redgates Was It?Before,It Was A Sports Shop Called Burgin's.I Can Remember Buying Many A Star Wars Figure From There As Well. redrobbo 03-07-2005, 23:20 Redgates (Sunwin House location) was an annual pilgrimage in the lead-up to Christmas when my kids were young. We lived near Derby then, and my two children loved this store. It was simply brilliant. There was always something that the kids found that they wanted for Christmas, (and whilst they were distracted, would be purchased and stowed away in the car boot, only to magically re-appear under the Christmas tree). One year, though I forget which now, we returned to Sheffield, only to find this children's mecca had closed. We were all devastated. No overhead railway track, no toys, no games, no nothing. Redgates had vanished without trace. Christmas shopping for the kids was never the same wonderful experience again. RiffRaff 03-07-2005, 23:33 I always wanted a Subbuteo CRICKET set, but my dad refused to buy me one, saying that the football sets were better value.... Never did find out whether it was true, or whether they were just more expensive than the soccer games! Still fancy one now (especially the Test match edition!) if anybody's got one tucked away in the attic?! Will pay obviously, or a donation to your favourite charity perhaps??? kev21662 04-07-2005, 00:12 Mum and Dad would drag my brothers and me around town every Saturday during the early 70's. We were always bored senseless by this! The only thing that made it bearable was the chance to have a look around Redgates. We never spent any money, however. Kevin Taylor. madowl 04-07-2005, 01:09 Redgates to me was the home of childhood dreams, walking round just looking at all the toys etc, filled me with joy what a shop, even better at christmas........:D docmel 04-07-2005, 08:49 There are a number of threads on this forum that deal with past memories and without any doubt the Number One topic is this almost mythical store. I have commented myself about Redgates when it was on the Moor - by the time it got to Sunwin House I was probably a tad too old to get excited about it - I remember going into Sunwin House a few times and for some reason thinking it was not a patch on the old store but that may have been the old 'averse to change' thingy we all do from time to time But the fact remains that of all the memories we have had when we were kids this has won hands down - so if it was so popular - why did it close? I had moved away from Sheff by the time this had happened - does anyone have info about its demise? Was it cause Beatties had opened up by then on Pinstone Street and the 'serious' model makers took their business elsewhere? - I would be interested to know - when I try and tell my daughters about Redgates they look at me strange that Dad could get so moved by a shop that he remembers it so well chumpy 04-07-2005, 09:04 I used to live at Heeley and go to school at Owler lane during the sixties and that entailed two buses, so me and a couple of mates used to dive into Redgates for half an hour on the way home. It was always straight downstairs for us, upstairs had prams and stuff, we wanted the train set in the glass case. I remember when the Yo Yo craze appeared and Redgates got an expert in to do all the moves ( walking the dog, round the world etc ), clever bugger , I could never do them but then I couldn't afford the top of the range super smooth whizz bang Yo Yo that he had. I could only afford the cheap nasty tin one. Happy Days algy 04-07-2005, 09:12 Originally posted by Greybeard I thought Redgates was at the bottom of Ecclesall Road when I was a lad....opposite the S & E Dept store. Or is my memory playing tricks on me ? No you're dead right , it was opposite the S&E. My Gran lived on Clarence Street, and we used to go to see her on a Saturday, get off the bus at Moorhead and walk down, last stop for me was Redgates, then round the corner to Gran's. You and me must be the same generation Greybeard, these youngsters can't go back before the sixties! docmel 04-07-2005, 09:24 Originally posted by algy No you're dead right , it was opposite the S&E. My Gran lived on Clarence Street, and we used to go to see her on a Saturday, get off the bus at Moorhead and walk down, last stop for me was Redgates, then round the corner to Gran's. You and me must be the same generation Greybeard, these youngsters can't go back before the sixties! So when did it move from the bottom of the Moor - up to the top? I have fond memories of this store when I was a kid and that was in the late 50's and I certainly don't remember it being down at the bottom of the Moor docmel 04-07-2005, 10:48 I just been talking to my old Mum she is in her seventies but her memory is as sharp as anything. She worked at the bottom of the Moor from 1949 to 1953 - when I was born. She has said that at no time can she remember Redgates being down at the bottom of the Moor - as far as she knows it was always in its place at the top - she says she knows that cus she went shopping for a pram for me in '53 and she remembers going in too look round - the prams and bikes were on the ground floor and the toys etc downstairs. She started taking me in when I was very young - there was a ride downstairs which was a helicopter - I can just remember that so that must have been around 1956/7/8 Is there anyway of finding out the reality here? - the only thing I can find on the web about Redgates is about the owner after the war It is an adobe document so I cannot copy from it but it mentions that he took over Redgates in 1938 - (it was a family business then) and was responsible for the 'new and grander premises' which were built on the original site which was destroyed during the Sheffield Blitz - the new shop opening in 1954 - trouble is it don't say where - but would they build a place in '54 and move just a few years later? Ousetunes 04-07-2005, 11:09 Wasn't it firstly on the Moor, where General Stationers used to be? (I don't know what the present business is there, today, but it's opposite Debenham's.) Then did it not relocate round the corner to Furnival Gate? I went to the Furnival Gate Redgates on many an occasion. It really was dreamland. I think the Dinky and Matchbox toy cars were at the rear on the ground floor, prams and cots and the like upstairs and I can't recall quite what downstairs, board games perhaps? And as others have said, at Christmas it was the most exciting place to drag your parents to and cry 'but please Mum', 'oh go on Dad'. Great place indeed! bazmanau 04-07-2005, 11:27 Where have the years gone i can remember my grandmother having a friut and veg stall at the bottom of Dixons lane and when she had finished for the day she would take me to Redgates. This was back in the early 60's the Golden years. expat 04-07-2005, 11:36 I used to dream as a child that I would get locked by accident inside Redgates at closing time like being in heaven.I used to by all my model planes their.Toy shop with soul.Not to be found anymore. RiffRaff 04-07-2005, 18:18 The stationers that seems to appear in a few of these posts (i.e. opposite Debenhams, which I think was called Pauldens then) was called Quadrant Stationers at some time..... Still no offers of a Subbuteo Cricket set, then! Knew I should have got one from Redgates when I could!! algy 04-07-2005, 18:56 [QUOTE]Originally posted by docmel [B] She has said that at no time can she remember Redgates being down at the bottom of the Moor - It wasn't actually on the Moor, it was round the corner on Ecclesall Road.The road layout then was very different to now, Ecclesall Rd ran where the front of the Waitrose building is now, and met the Moor, Cemetery Rd, London Rd and St Mary's at a roundabout. Redgates was actually on Ecclesall Rd a few yards from the junction. It must have moved onto the Moor in the mid 50's. Before that there was still a lot of bomb damage on the Moor, and I think Redgates moved as it was rebuilt. PhilipB 04-07-2005, 19:39 The only shop for me as a kid. In the 50s and early 60s, if I was in the town with my mom then she'd either have to give Redgates a wide berth or she'd be dragged round. Sort of shop that leaves the right impression on a kid. Happy happy days. Greybeard 04-07-2005, 20:46 Originally posted by algy No you're dead right , it was opposite the S&E. My Gran lived on Clarence Street, and we used to go to see her on a Saturday, get off the bus at Moorhead and walk down, last stop for me was Redgates, then round the corner to Gran's. You and me must be the same generation Greybeard, these youngsters can't go back before the sixties! Thanks for the back-up Algy, - I was beginning to doubt my memory, - as you do after a certain age :D It would be around 1945/6 that I first entered Redgates and I distincly remember where it was, but I'll check with a directory of the period next time I'm in the library. The move to Sunwin House must have happened whilst I was living away from Sheffield [1957-1976]. The original shop I believe was at Moorhead and got bombed out during the blitz. bigkev 04-07-2005, 21:42 redgates toy shop one of the true toy shops this city as ever seen, I use to go in there with my dad I was aged about 8 years old then and go and look at the model railways thats was the start of my passion for the railways. one christmas I went in there with my grandad & grandma and 2 of my uncles was in there shopping nobody said anything to me but they were laiden down with presents any way going round the shop, my grandad looked at the trains sets and he just smiled at my grandma he must have been very quick because when we came out he had got one of the biggest presents under is arm I had ever seen and as it was just one week to go before christmas day everything had gone to santa and it would be back on christmas morning, on that day I had the biggest shock of my life when I woke up we use to live in a 2 bedroom house down the cliffe then with a attic bedroom, my grandad and my dad and my uncles all took me upstairs to the attic and there in front of me was the biggest train layout I had seen in all my life that was my christmas present from all my family and there was bags all with redgates on them full of loco's rolling stock stations everything I could have wished for, I use to go to redgates every saturday after that and buy things for my layout, now I have progressed on the bigger loco's and if I had the money I would buy a steam loco and name it redgates. tosh13 05-07-2005, 10:29 I used to go to Redgates on saturday mornings with my mate's to look at the new players for Subbutteo & there was a West Ham shirt in there too & I would have loved to have got it as they were my 2nd team back then,it was a great toy shop,they don't make them like that no more. Ousetunes 05-07-2005, 10:56 Bigkev mentions railways and I think I'm right in thinking that on the ground floor there was a miniature railway running round the shop, on a track either suspended from the ceiling or an a ledge attached to the wall? Same size as yer average Hornby. I think it went through a couple of tunnels also. (I just hope I'm not getting too confused with Uncle Sam's Chuck Waggon which I believe still has such a railway.) My elder brother had all the Subbuteos going, football (with the floodlights), the rugby one and, best of all, the cricket set. I wonder if he's still got them; I'll have to ask. I think Redgates suffered somewhat after Hamley's came to the Moor. The sad thing being that neither shop lasted much longer, so we went from two decent toy shops to none. Redgates however, was like an old friend, Hamley's, a bit of a trespasser and we, the Sheffield public, lost out again! Plain Talker 06-07-2005, 11:31 I've got such fond memories of my uncle taking me there to choose a toy, when he came back to sheffield from birmingham. I also spent some of my first weeks wages in redgates, on a talking doll for my youngest sister, 25-odd years ago. it was £20 , then, which was a small fortune. PT algy 06-07-2005, 12:30 Originally posted by Greybeard Thanks for the back-up Algy, - I was beginning to doubt my memory, - as you do after a certain age :D It would be around 1945/6 that I first entered Redgates and I distincly remember where it was, but I'll check with a directory of the period next time I'm in the library. The move to Sunwin House must have happened whilst I was living away from Sheffield [1957-1976]. The original shop I believe was at Moorhead and got bombed out during the blitz. That fits with my memories too, I had a vague recollection that the one opposite S&E was somehow temporary. My recollection goes back to the late 40's/early 50's. sugarnspice 06-07-2005, 12:35 I used to love Redgates! I feel quite sad now that I'm not little and it isn't there and I can't go and buy Sindy dolls and tea sets. ernie 07-07-2005, 19:56 Originally posted by Jon Who remembers the best toy shop in the world Redgates? I bought all my Subbuteo teams at Redgates (now Sunwin House) :D Yes best toy shop ever including Hamleys of London::D sheffchef 21-07-2005, 01:22 Ah Redgates, now theres a blast from the past. I remember going there all the time just to look at all the toys and play with any that were out..... well, that's what they were there for......to play with! I can't exactly remember if it had changed to Zodiac Redgates when they got the Ferrari or Lamboghini in just on the right as you went through the doors! I was told as a small child that If I saved all my pocket then when I was old enough to drive I could buy it! Still struggle to save my pocket money and even if I could Redgates is no longer and my childhood dream car is long gone! Now I'm reasonbly grown up, or at least in the eyes of society the size of car I would need to buy, if it be along the same lines would take a hell of a lot of saving to buy! :( bobsyouruncle 21-07-2005, 12:30 I remember Redgates, t'was the first place (and may I say, the LAST) place that i ever shoplifted in. I was only about 11 or 12 (1980/81), me and a friend, Richard who lived next door to us on Broomhall Flats, went in nicked a Paul Daniels Magic Trick each, cost about 49p, we did get caught, the police came to speak to us, and our parents called. Richards mum came to collect him, and rather than go home with her, I opted to wait for my mum, who gave me the biggest clout -EVER. Discipline-never did me any harm. I never ever did shoplift again, we both learnt our lesson. lovabulrogue 22-07-2005, 16:24 WOW, reading your message has put a huge grin on my face and a tear in my eye. I loved my parents taking me in there in the early 80's. A magical place. Thanks... owlsman 23-07-2005, 00:07 Redgates was amazing when i was a kid. I remeber me dad buying my fist bike from there, it was a raleigh burner with mag wheels!!! :D Fantastic memories of that place, i was soooo gutted when i closed down. :sad: janjan21 25-07-2005, 19:52 I remember Redgates being in Fitzallan sq and im not too old 49 lol i worked in the classic cinema and the news agents there but i was older. algy 26-07-2005, 10:37 Originally posted by janjan21 I remember Redgates being in Fitzallan sq and im not too old 49 lol i worked in the classic cinema and the news agents there but i was older. I don't recall Redgates ever being in Fitzalan Square, but there was a similar toyshop there called Wilson Gumpert's, on the opposite side of the square from the Classic. Lightninboy 26-07-2005, 11:44 I remember Redgates at the Sunwin House site years ago. Is my mind playing tricks or did they have a HUGE (to my eyes then) meccano robot in the doorway as you walked in? I think they also used to have the Subbuteo tournaments there or something like that. Remember the suspended train too, Beatties must have ripped that idea off for their shop, where Maplins is now. Lightninboy 26-07-2005, 11:46 my mate has just reminded me......remember the huge Ferrari toy/working car in there too! God I soooooo wanted one of those!!! Loads of money though!!! Don_Kiddick 26-07-2005, 12:36 My sister took me when I was a nipper, I couldn't believe my eyes :wow: at all the toys! I got my first Action Man inflatable dinghy from there :roll: memories probedb 27-07-2005, 15:40 Used to go in there as a kid in the 80's and always loved it. So much stuff I could never have :) Beatties was the same and I think they both had overhead model railways. jiggiley 28-07-2005, 16:22 Wow, redgates :clap: What a fab store, I got some silly putty in there, I loved that stuff !!! Wohoo, and Muscle Men, 10 skin coloured men in pot, bit odd but I liked them.... caramac55 29-12-2005, 20:38 Oh my God...Redgates, what memories. I remember Redgates on the moor, but later it moved around the corner. I got all my Dinky cars there, all my subbuteo teams and the original chopper bike in Orange. I rember the bike been displayed in the window, WOW what a bike, managed to talk my dad into buying me one for christmas. Redgates was a true toy shop not like toys r us. Train sets on display, santa's grotto and who remembers them having a subbuteo competition over several weeks, yep, fantastic memories.....But who remembers Kenyons in Firth park located on Bellhouse Rd, a small shop but he had every dinky and corgi model in his window + train sets fully set up in his back room. That shop cost my mum and dad a fortune. melthebell 29-12-2005, 20:47 redgates was ace.........the biggest, best, and most eye opping toy shop ever...loved it, bloody massive Applegrim 29-12-2005, 22:45 When my sons were small, I actually worked at Redgates I never knew if it was a bad thing or a good thing as quite a lot of my wages were spent bringing them new toys, I worked on the subbuteo counter as well as the lego counter, and to watch tiny tots coming to spend their birthday money was amazing, it was like being in wonderland, do anyone remember those great big models of lego, well they were built by lego, not us, they were huge and all stuck together, they were for display in the window, and once when the display was being changed a manager asked me if I wanted to take it home for my children, well I couldn't wait to see their faces, but I had to try to get on the bus with it, I did manage it, and the lads always remember that castle. docmel 30-12-2005, 10:21 Originally posted by Applegrim When my sons were small, I actually worked at Redgates Applegrim - Which Redgates? The original on the Moor or the one round the corner where they moved to? Reason for my asking is that I have very fond memories of the 'old' Redgates especially the superb model kits that had been made up and hung from the ceiling. I seem to recall they were made up by a guy in a wheelchair but whenever I talk about this to my mates during our reminising times they all say I must have been dreaming. What sticks in my mind is that on one visit I am sure (dream?) that he was building a kit at a counter and quite a few kids/dads were getting tips from him. He was painting a model plane and was actually painstaikingly putting in the exhaust smoke stain down the side of the plane - or was that adream as well? bigkev 30-12-2005, 15:20 Hi docmel, just to answer your question on that old chap in the wheelchair know you are not dreaming he did work in redgates and yes he was the one who built all the models, why do I know because he was a very good friend of my dads as my dad was an ambulance driver he use to take him to the hospital on the days he had to go, thats why I know that he worked there and did all the models did you ever see that one of the ark royal aircraft carrier he built. he told my dad that it took him nearly a year to complete it and it wasnt made in plastic it was made in wood. so you wasnt dreaming after all. docmel 30-12-2005, 15:50 bigkev Thanks mate - its just that its nearly 50 years ago and thats a long time for memory like that - I cant recall his face or anything - just that fact that he was in a wheelchair which did make it a god contender for a weird dream Applegrim 30-12-2005, 20:06 Docmel, like you I also remember the "old " Redgates, unfortunaltly I worked at the one round the corner, and we did sell all the lego, duplo etc., as well as the subbuteo, they were good times and every childs dream,mine still remember going to see Darth Vader, but thats another story! Yellowrose 30-12-2005, 20:40 The basement of the Redgates (Sunwin) store had a basement that led to the Moor. It was a stationers within my memory, but my partner says that originally it was part of Redgates, but he cant remember what they stocked in that part. I remember going through the passageway to the stationers and there being prams in glass display cases lining the walls. I also remember taking my kids there and them having their photos taken. I used to get most of their toys from their in their early years. When Hamleys came I never used it, I felt we should support Redgates. theviker 10-01-2006, 16:11 All my star wars figures , which i still ahve in a box in the loft , started their life at redgates I was so sad when it closed .....and i was about 18 RobsNo1Fan 10-01-2006, 16:13 Originally posted by johnjo I can remember being in Redgates waiting for Darth Vader to make an appearance. I was mesmerised by him when he did, he looked HUGE!!:P I remember that too. He came out of the lift and frightened me to death ( I was only little at the time!!) My brother loved it though. peterw 11-01-2006, 02:09 Hi Jon — Yes, I remember the ORIGINAL Redgates before the war. My father took me to buy a hand-cranked Pathescope Ace projector and three 9.5 millimetre, one-reel films. We had to go into the basement to look at projectors, and although I cannot remember the price of mine, I do remember than an elecrically driven one, with sound, was a fiver. A salesman was demonstrating it to a prospective customer. The place was an Aladdin’s Cave of toys! Wages then were about thirty shillings, so an electric projector would have cost my dad more than three weeks wages! However, as the war progressed he got more money, and one Christmas he got me a No. 10 Meccano Set in a wooden box; the best available. It cost 255 shillings, and today it would be worth a small fortune. Happy days! Arnie71 23-05-2006, 17:46 I used to go to Redgates on saturday mornings with my mate's to look at the new players for Subbutteo & there was a West Ham shirt in there too & I would have loved to have got it as they were my 2nd team back then,it was a great toy shop,they don't make them like that no more. Used to go there once to try and get subbuteo stuff during the late 1980's - just moved to the area a few months before it closed. I was into subbuteo a lot at the time. I vaguely remember putting six goals past Carl Young (one of the UK's top players at the time) though if he was really trying I would have been slaughtered. Gordonb 24-05-2006, 15:47 I can always remember Redgates in the Moor in the 50's and 60's but does anyone remember a toy shop at the bottom of London Road somewhere near the first bend. To me it was every bit as good as Redgates but that was because I was 4 or 5 years old at the time. I remember my Mum and Dad bought me a superb metal car which had an accelerator and a gear lever sticking out of the windows. Wish I'd still got it. PennyRoyal 30-05-2006, 08:46 Redgates the best toy shop ever! heeleygirl 30-05-2006, 13:36 -I remember Redgates when it use to be at the bottom of Ecclesall Road. I got my first three wheel bike from there, my uncle had won some money at the dogs and this was my treat. That must have been about 1947-48 then it moved to Fitzalan Sqare. I tooked my kids to Redgates for their toys and my grandchildren as well. Unfortunatley it did not stop open long enough for me to indulge my great grandaughter. Redgates was a big part of Sheffield kid's lives. Shazbat 30-05-2006, 16:46 Redgates absolutely rocked! We lived in Wath in the late 70s so it was a proper treat to come to Sheffield and go to Redgates. I can remember at the height of the first Star Wars movie, Darth Vader was there and our kid was absolutely gobsmacked at this huge bloke in the black gear and mask, making all the breathing noises and everything :o anniexxx 31-05-2006, 14:58 I remember Redgates as a child of about 10 year old about 1957 used to go in town on my own on Saturday and head for Redgates from Division Street, not much in the way of buildings around in those days as a lot was bombed. I would head for the basement and stand watching the Disabled chap operate the Hornby Train set in the middle of the basement I could stand there for hours. Anyone remember it. A bit different today, the last time I went into the shop was about 20 years ago. Regards John.m Dont you remember the other toy shop in fiztallan square it was called wilson and gumpets next door to marples ....I remember it cos our bus stop was right out side and i used to beg my mom to take me in every saturday when she had finished her shopping .... wasnt half a big as Redgates but to a small child of the fifties just as magical ....Anne anniexxx 31-05-2006, 15:00 does anyone remember wilson and gumpets in fitzallan square as well a small toy shop but just as magical anne alevans 01-06-2006, 16:21 Redgates absolutely rocked! We lived in Wath in the late 70s so it was a proper treat to come to Sheffield and go to Redgates. I can remember at the height of the first Star Wars movie, Darth Vader was there and our kid was absolutely gobsmacked at this huge bloke in the black gear and mask, making all the breathing noises and everything :o When I went back to the top of the moor for the first time in years, a short time ago, I was rea;lly dissapointed to see no Redgates. Nearly all my Xmas presents either came from their or? Was it called Stoppards in Carbrook? Near the bottom of Broughton Lane. They had a club where you could put a small amount of money away each week and how ever hard up my mum and dad were I always got a good Xmas present, bless them (Has tears in eyes) sam1984 01-06-2006, 16:36 Im 22 now and can vaguelly remember going in there when I was little! I used to love going there at weekends when my mum and dad went shopping in town and then we'd go to McDonalds afterwards! I can also remember going into some sort of climbing frame with a tent on top of it and screaming the place down coz I couldnt find my mm and dad when I got to the bottom of the slide! caramac55 01-06-2006, 22:49 does anyone remember kenyons in firth park, only a small toy shop, but it was crammed to the roof with toys...corgi and dinky models, subbuteo, and he had loads of train sets set up in the back of the shop, fond memories Shazbat 04-06-2006, 22:44 does anyone remember kenyons in firth park, only a small toy shop, but it was crammed to the roof with toys...corgi and dinky models, subbuteo, and he had loads of train sets set up in the back of the shop, fond memories Think I very vaguely do but I'm not sure whether it was before we moved there in 84 :huh: SOUTHEY 06-06-2006, 11:24 new to all of this! does anyone remember the glass lift in redgates ? you could see all round the shop as you went up ,hope im not imagining this! Serafina 02-07-2006, 03:07 Wow!! Redgates!! This was an amazing place and provides me with one of my earliest memories... I'm 29, so only remember the Sunwin House store. Before they redecorated (and added the glass elevator with the space man) the girly things used to be upstairs and the lift was a huge and imposing steel monster! I was a little madam then and used to get so excited. My auntie and uncle and cousins were visiting and my Mom had my little brother in a pram and no one was moving quick enough so I went stomping in to the lift, but the doors shut and I was on my own! My Mom says all she could hear was me wailing; "MOMMMMMMIIIIIIIEEEEEE............" as I got further and further away!! I remember the doors opened in the store room and I wandered for what felt like hours surrounded by the highest piles of boxes I had ever seen in my life! Suffice to say after I was found by a lovely store assistant and a snotty and snivelling me was reunited with my family I remained holding on to my brothers pram as if I was stuck to it... Until I saw the Barbie and Sindy houses! :D crookes 03-07-2006, 00:17 When i was a child there were no toy shops around, i think everybody went to Redgates in those days. Well I was born in '42 and as a lad I remember two fantastic toy shops other than Redgates. One was almost at the junction at the top of Glossop Road in Broomhill and the other was on Crookes and I think at the bottom of Mulehouse Road. However if I couldn't get the meccano I wanted, Redgates usual had it. Jabberwocky 03-07-2006, 00:19 I played Truant in there for well over a year. I loved the place. Plain Talker 03-07-2006, 09:34 I played Truant in there for well over a year. I loved the place. ;) ;) ;) didn't your parents notice you'd been gone that long? ;) ;) ;) lol PT Jabberwocky 03-07-2006, 10:37 ;) ;) ;) didn't your parents notice you'd been gone that long? ;) ;) ;) lol PT They were glad to see the back of me! longonjon 06-07-2006, 20:01 Redgates - I always remebered it at moorhead. I used to live near the bottom of the moor as a lad. We were bombed out of our house and were put in this back to back house in Hodgeson st by the council.There was a little lane called Button Lane ran almost parallel with the Moor and came out at Moorhead where the trams stopped.I beleive it's called Arundel gate now ( have not lived in Sheffield for many years) Down at the bottom of the Moor was a cheap gents outfitters called Bunnies. Where they build Debenhams used to be a huge bomb crater full of water & I remember part of a plane wreck lying on flattened land down Button Lane - one of the few shops down there was a saw doctor - he used to mend and sharpen any type of saw.It's a long time ago. lottiemilfy 06-07-2006, 21:30 i use to go to Redgates every saturday if id been a good girl all week for a new toy lol i loved it!:hihi: Treatment 07-07-2006, 16:20 I remember Redgates, I used to be mesmerised by the stuff in the window. There used to be a blind man selling matches outside at the end of the alleyway onto the Moor. I used to wonder how he made a living selling matches, I was about 25 before I realised that you were supposed to give him more than the real price of a box of matches ! Now I am professionally qualified with an MBA as well. IT PAYS TO BE A WINNER Treatment 16-07-2006, 23:50 My wife has corrected me on this, I got it mixed up with Suggs the sport shop. Terrorist 18-07-2006, 06:46 Does anyone remember Coopers toys at the bottom of Doncaster Gate in Rotherham. Up some stairs and down some other stairs, it was like a labyrinth in there :D Terrorist 18-07-2006, 06:55 Does anyone remember Coopers toys at the bottom of Doncaster Gate in Rotherham. Up some stairs and down some other stairs, it was like a labyrinth in there :D desy 18-07-2006, 08:28 A friend of mine her mother worked at one time in the personell dept at Redgates. Her name was Mrs Green. johnboy4809 20-07-2006, 14:25 Wow redgates was ace Redgates then walk upto Beaties now maplin oh the childhood memories Have to thank Redgates for supplying my parents with all my starwars toys :-) Had them all valued last year and my big Boxed Talourian Shuttle still has the Redgates price tag on it of £9.99 from there closing down sale and still have alot of my old toys stored in Redgates bags - memories :-) Jabberwocky 20-07-2006, 14:26 I used to love Beatties. King Rat 02-11-2006, 20:32 I remember Redgates the Toy Shop as a kid and thought it was absolutley fantastic:thumbsup: Redgates was situated on Furnival Gate in City Centre - Were sunwin house CO-OP is now. Toys R Us is quite good now but I think Redgates was something Really Special, or is it just that I miss being a kid and them magical years? Anytime I was taken to town I used to be in heaven just being in this shop! I would be very interested to know what you Forumers thought of Redgates? Will there ever be a Toy Shop like this again? Do you know of anywere like Redgates? What memories do you have of Redgates? Which specific Toys do you remember getting from Redgates? Please discuss - Redgates RIP PhilMurray 02-11-2006, 20:36 yeah.......got all my subbuteo from there........they had everything! pinklady 02-11-2006, 20:40 Redgates was fabulous, i loved going there they had a 'display' toy out, complete with batteries of every item of stock they carried .... toys r us just display everything in boxes ... cant play with them first. EmilyJane 02-11-2006, 20:40 Yeah, got stuck in the lift in there once with my Nan. I used to buy all my sindy stuff in there. Toys R Us isn't the same. its not as exciting or real. I think Redgates had an air of anticipation about it. Toys r Us just doesn't have the same joy about it. ANDIM68 02-11-2006, 20:46 Red gates was great red gates was fab if mum said no run n ask dad if I was good I`d get a small treat but if I`d been bad wait till next week 01709andy 02-11-2006, 20:47 we never had much money when I was a kid but my mum used to take me up to redgates just before xmas, it was the high light of my year. will there ever be anything like it again, I don't think so! Footiefreak 02-11-2006, 20:59 Oh Redgates ! Brilliant! Used to go in there on a Saturday morning with my mum and always ended up in the doll dept. I was doll mad and it was like being in paradise! My favorites were the Sasha dolls (they looked like real kids with lovely dark skin) and I've spent hours looking at them. Never got one though cause they were quite expensive and we just didn't have the money in those days. (they are now available on ebay and keep thinking I should get one for my little girl). Another memory I have of Redgates was going in with my mate and getting stuck in the lift. We ended up at the top floor in the stock room and couldn't get back down! We must have only been there for about 10 minutes but it seemed to go on for hours! King Rat 02-11-2006, 21:04 2 people so far who have been stuck in lift at Redgates! Did this happen regular? Footiefreak 02-11-2006, 21:18 2 people so far who have been stuck in lift at Redgates! Did this happen regular? I was just thinking the same - But, I think it's just something that happens to me! Got stuck in Primark's lift a few weeks ago! King Rat 02-11-2006, 21:40 I was just thinking the same - But, I think it's just something that happens to me! Got stuck in Primark's lift a few weeks ago! I used to live on the old Hyde Park Flats (before they were refurbished) as a young kid and I remember stuck in lift a few times on them flats but never anywere else. Bolero 02-11-2006, 21:43 Yep, got my first skateboard from Redgates - red with a picture of a surfer on it and blue wheels - felt every bump of gravel on the road, useless it was. I crashed it into a tree on the day of the Hillsborough disaster if memory serves me. redrobbo 02-11-2006, 21:47 Long established thread on remembering Redgates toy shop can be found here..... http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1076&highlight=redgates tess667 02-11-2006, 21:48 I remember Redgates, wasn't the lift in the shape of a rocket? King Rat 02-11-2006, 21:52 Long established thread on remembering Redgates toy shop can be found here..... http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1076&highlight=redgates I did a search but didn't find anything, anyway thanks a lot for the link I'm sure its going to be really enjoyable looking at it. :thumbsup: shelby46 02-11-2006, 22:13 I remember the fabulous Santas Grottos there every year Rich 02-11-2006, 22:15 I loved Redgates, and later Hamleys on the Moor... Bought most of my old Star Wars figures from there, and met some scary bloke dressed as Hordak from the old He Man and She Ra cartoons there when I went in one Saturday with my Nan some time in, 1984 iirc... I was only about 7 or 8 at the time anyway. TN72 02-11-2006, 22:25 REDGATES!!! my girls world and chemistry set luved it nothing like it now days it was a magical place xxxx probedb 02-11-2006, 22:35 I loved it :D 3 floors of toys!!! chattycathy 02-11-2006, 22:57 Wasn't Redgates originally on the Moor? About where Sports Soccer is now? But I do remember my husband picking up a HUGE bag of marbles to tell what they were all called - and the bag split. There were marbles everywhere!!!!! We left - quickly. 4Colour 02-11-2006, 23:03 Wasn't Redgates originally on the Moor? About where Sports Soccer is now? But I do remember my husband picking up a HUGE bag of marbles to tell what they were all called - and the bag split. There were marbles everywhere!!!!! We left - quickly. Yeah its terrible when you lose your marbles - rare things too :hihi: I think as a kid you have rose tinted gigs on - yeah redgates was brilliant but so were Big Traks. chattycathy 02-11-2006, 23:05 Big Trak - amazing, in its time. We still have one up high in a cupboard somewhere - waiting for it to become an antique, himself seems to think it will finance our retirment. Plain Talker 02-11-2006, 23:06 redgates was around corner from sportsoccer where sunwin house was (now closed down, too!) although some older members on here might remember the store, many, many years ago on that strip of shops where sportsoccer is. pattricia 02-11-2006, 23:13 Oh, God yes. Remember Regates.My boys thought it was heaven.They were MAD on Airfix models & soldiers. I gave a big tin of the soldiers away,then my son who lives in America said E Bay were selling all Airfix stuff for really high prices(second hand) He had to buy some soldiers back, and keeps them on his office desk to this day. 4Colour 02-11-2006, 23:15 Being a mere 33 I don't. I do recall Big Traks with the dumper option ..... wow that was cool. Kids today are spoilt. No waiting 30 mins for Hungry Horrice Goes Skiing to load on your spectrum only for the coloured lines to stop flashing. Press stop, rewind and start again. Those times were so stressful. pattricia 02-11-2006, 23:20 Also remember my lads going mad over "Action Man" .They had all the outfits,and the rubber diving outfit was so hard to put on.They had to put talc on the Action Man first. Their American cousin came over and he had the American version called "G.I.Joe. mavis 03-11-2006, 00:41 i remember getting my first tiny tears from redgates,i just loved that shop....ahhhhhh satman2222 03-11-2006, 01:07 Ground floor - just inside on the left was where all the Hornby train sets were - I always inspired to the latest system X multiple train control system but never got it.........:hihi: *_ash_* 03-11-2006, 03:02 Being a mere 33 I don't. I do recall Big Traks with the dumper option ..... wow that was cool. Kids today are spoilt. No waiting 30 mins for Hungry Horrice Goes Skiing to load on your spectrum only for the coloured lines to stop flashing. Press stop, rewind and start again. Those times were so stressful. im a year younger than you i and i remember redgates, its was great, hamleys killed it, then shut down. Kids with the 'dumper bit' of big track were the lucky ones!!! i never had that, but had the big trak, hours of fun!! redgates was ace ash nick2 03-11-2006, 09:12 I remember the huge (seemed huge at the time) LEGO department, with the lego you could play with first, and the hundreds of little boxes of roof tiles, or windows or wheels. Twas heaven on Earth. scoop 03-11-2006, 09:18 Being a mere 33 I don't. I do recall Big Traks with the dumper option ..... wow that was cool. Kids today are spoilt. No waiting 30 mins for Hungry Horrice Goes Skiing to load on your spectrum only for the coloured lines to stop flashing. Press stop, rewind and start again. Those times were so stressful. I'm 33, I remeber Redgates very well. The rocket lift came later, when it became Hamley's tigerlily 03-11-2006, 09:19 Yes I remember when Redgates was on the moor,and also Wilson Gumperts which belonged to them in Fitzalan Square. Used to get all my dolls house furniture from there. They always had a lovely display in the window Green Web 03-11-2006, 09:31 I'm 33, I remeber Redgates very well. The rocket lift came later, when it became Hamley's Im 30 and i also remember redgates very well, this place had everything a child could possible want and more!:) :) I remember getting all my Manta Force Transformers and Star wars gear from there, I doubt Meadowhall toy shops or Toys r us would even get a lookin for toys now if Redgates was still open:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Otto 03-11-2006, 09:49 I remember the huge (seemed huge at the time) LEGO department, with the lego you could play with first, and the hundreds of little boxes of roof tiles, or windows or wheels. Twas heaven on Earth. The lego dept was my favourite. The "old" Redgates used to have a (what seemed but probably wasn't) huge staircase near the main entrance which took you down to the Lego which was right at the bottom of the stairs. The stairs later made way for possibly an escalator when they installed the rocket lift. Sometime after it closed, my dad had a job there whilst it was being refurbished for Sunwin House and I went in with him - it was all emty and eerie, I remember thinking how big it was and how sad it wasn't Redgates anymore! Redgates WAS THE toy shop for a generation or 2 - Toys R Us cannot even come remotely close! PS: Hamleys was on The Moor where Mk One is. I blame Hamleys for the demise of Redgates (altho there probably is no link!) blondie-blue 03-11-2006, 09:50 Well i was lucky enough that my mum worked in redgates, i thought it was fantastic, i used to get a new barbie every week. And i remember the glass lift being in the shape of a rocket, the santa's grotto's were brilliant me and my brothers used to get in for free with my mum working there, i remember one year it had a snow white theme with all the dwarfs in christmas scenes...... Happy memories :bigsmile: :thumbsup: There's nothing quite like it now is there... i was in toys r us the other week, thought it was quite untidy looking (bit trampy to be honest), not magical at all like redgates... :( nick2 03-11-2006, 09:50 I'm 33, I remeber Redgates very well. The rocket lift came later, when it became Hamley's I'm pretty sure Hamley's was on the Moor, where that clearance shop is now, the shop that was Habitat in a previous life, when the Moor still had a bit of style and a couple of good shops, who can remember THAT far back ? Redgates did change name, but I can't remember what to, and I'm sure they didn't just sell toys after the change. blondie-blue 03-11-2006, 09:52 Zodiac at Redgates was the name after i think scoop 03-11-2006, 09:53 I notice that people think that Toys'R'us doesn't hold the same allure for children as Redgates had for us. Well, I invite you for a trip to Toys'R'us with me and my nearly 4 year old. To him Toys'R'us is heaven, he'd live there if he could! scoop 03-11-2006, 09:56 I'm pretty sure Hamley's was on the Moor, where that clearance shop is now, the shop that was Habitat in a previous life, when the Moor still had a bit of style and a couple of good shops, who can remember THAT far back ? Redgates did change name, but I can't remember what to, and I'm sure they didn't just sell toys after the change. Is that right? Bizarre how your mind can play tricks on you. I would have sworn that Redgates closed down and had a grand reopening as Hamleys. And I can remember going in just for the thrill of going in the rocket lift and waving at other shoppers from inside the lift. nick2 03-11-2006, 09:57 I think Toys'R'Us is like Netto, whereas Redgates was more like Harrods food halls, it was the presentation that made it so good, it wasn't a warehouse full of boxes, it was a shop properly designed for kids, not just extracting money from parents, the only other shop I've seen that has the same atmostphere is FAO. Schwarz in the US. Atlantica 03-11-2006, 10:07 When I was a small kid Redgates was the Mecca of toyshops :-)) RichK 03-11-2006, 12:08 Is that right? Bizarre how your mind can play tricks on you. I would have sworn that Redgates closed down and had a grand reopening as Hamleys. And I can remember going in just for the thrill of going in the rocket lift and waving at other shoppers from inside the lift. I have a vague feeling you might be right that Hamleys relocated into the Redgates building in about 1987/1988 [possibily Redgates sold out] - they didn't last very long before it closed down for good, so that might be why no one remembers. This might be a false memory though! I certainly remember the stupid rocket lift - its days were numbered when that arrived. sazaboo 03-11-2006, 12:46 my grandad took me to redgates and when we were in the sindy doll isle he blindfolded me, spun me round with my finger pointing and where ever i ended up pointing to i got it for my birthday!! i got a horse!! it was what i wanted too!! davy.s 03-11-2006, 13:13 Yes Redgates was originally on the Moor and had the most wonderful Father Christmas Grotto - absolute magic. Green Web 03-11-2006, 13:22 I have a vague feeling you might be right that Hamleys relocated into the Redgates building in about 1987/1988 [possibily Redgates sold out] - they didn't last very long before it closed down for good, so that might be why no one remembers. This might be a false memory though! I certainly remember the stupid rocket lift - its days were numbered when that arrived. Didnt Hamleys become part of Debenhams? Bago 03-11-2006, 15:49 I remember Redgate, and Hamley's. It's where we got our first copy of Monopoly. :P I still have it actually. I think they did have a Hamley's section in Debenhams too. I used to love going in there to checkout the trading cards. Which was all the rage at school. :) I think I got some fantasy monster ones. Who would've thought that years later, they're still played by kids ?? Hamleys used to feel like a proper toy shop. Toys R Us is not the same. The aisles are really big, and the ceilings are high. It just doesn't have the same feel as a toy shop. Foxprom 03-11-2006, 16:59 redgates was more than a toy shop to go in and buy toys, the staff served customers in a way that shop staff no longer do, the displays were big, and refreshed often, the staff had training on the products they sold and did know about them not just pick one up take it to the till and stuff it in a bag 30 quid fanks and out the door. they (redgates) had a marvelous Baby department with prams and all nursery equipment, the "standard" firework counter came out for 2 weeks every year at the bottom of the stairs no multi shot barage afairs then no, roman candles, traffic lights and the wild,stand well back if you dont mind mount vesuvious, it did nothing compared to todays near nuclear explosion fireworks but if you got three quids worth you had a bag full to last the night. the shop was a very nice place reminicant of shopping in years gone by, are you being served springs to mind, the current Mrs foxprom worked their for about 10 years man and boy ( strange woman) leant a lot about customer skills and toys, best thing she learned was how to make a carrying handle out of about 10 yards of string, wrapped around the big dolll boxes or lego and some how in the middle all the string came together like a giant soft carrying handle no crappy carrier bags then. ( sorry typed to much ) pattricia 03-11-2006, 17:07 I notice that people think that Toys'R'us doesn't hold the same allure for children as Redgates had for us. Well, I invite you for a trip to Toys'R'us with me and my nearly 4 year old. To him Toys'R'us is heaven, he'd live there if he could! Yes, scoop, I think its because nearly all toys now are plastic, where as some used to be made out of wood.Like farmyards and the animals in them,and dolls houses.Yes, I would like to take a walk round Toys`R`us.We go to the Lakeside Shopping at Doncaster and there is Toys`R`us there,I will have a look round next time we go,to see if the magic is still there. King Rat 03-11-2006, 19:16 Yes, scoop, I think its because nearly all toys now are plastic, where as some used to be made out of wood.Like farmyards and the animals in them,and dolls houses.Yes, I would like to take a walk round Toys`R`us.We go to the Lakeside Shopping at Doncaster and there is Toys`R`us there,I will have a look round next time we go,to see if the magic is still there. Redgates was somewhere very special and magical for those who were fortunate enough to go they’re as a kid. I went to Toys R Us the other day and it is good for kids most seem to really like it, But what other choice is there now? I would love to know if there’s anywhere at all in UK remotely like what Redgates used to be? YOYO s2 03-11-2006, 19:19 The train sets wre out of this world, i think they were downstairs kids would stand round the glaswalled layout and just watch because we couldnt afford all the layout etc. NPB! 03-11-2006, 19:22 My little 'un loves Toys r Us, so i think a lot of it is the allure something has when you are a kid. But I did used to love Redgates King Rat 03-11-2006, 19:28 My little 'un loves Toys r Us, so i think a lot of it is the allure something has when you are a kid. But I did used to love Redgates Maybe your right, but I still think if kids had a choice now Redgates would be their favourite. Bago 03-11-2006, 19:53 If you go into the Sunwin building now, you'll find that their layout is quite small and intimate. Maybe as a kid, you think you're in a really big toy store. :D I would say that, the only other place which is kind of similar is Hamley's in London. It's just full of toys everywhere. Their aisles are not big, but enough to pass by. It just feels kind of right, and there's toy demonstrations. You have to go there to check it out. Apart from Toys r Us, I don't know other toy stores. Actually... if you go to Meadowhall, there used to be a bookshop near Debenhams, and it's downstairs, which kind of feels like a toy shop. It's a nice layout and designed with some gadgety toys along with some children's books. (Yes, I went in there with an ex once and played on their toys. :P) My excuse is that I was looking for a Christmas present. calypso 03-11-2006, 19:59 I remember Redgates it brings back loads of childhood memories. My favourite bit was the Pelham Puppets display I would stand and look at them for ages. I was never really bothered about dolls. My worst memory of Redgates is my brother being dragged out screaming and crying because he couldn't have what he wanted! Brat. It was really sad when it closed, a piece of Sheffield history gone. valley mob 03-11-2006, 20:19 ow i say this is a blast from the past,i loved that shop it was just out of this world every toy you could think of was in there kid heaven,got all my sindy dolls and bits from there and my doll that looked like a real baby,god did i throw a paddie for that doll ,it cost mum a arm and a leg also i did to get stuck in redgates lift as well ,nice to know lots of others did as well ow the old times wasn't they fun shame there is still not toy shops like that one, it was one shop i think people that know it will never forget. tigerlily 04-11-2006, 09:18 What no one remembers Wilson Gumperts in Fitzalan square,I must be getting old then!!!!! Kry10 04-11-2006, 11:34 I am yet another one who remembers Redgates/Zodiac and Hamleys, I used to spend hours in those places, I met one lad who became a good friend in Hamleys and used to dream of being one of the magicians who displayed their products on the shop floor. I also remember when Redgates changed their image to try and pull punters away from Hamleys, there was a big price war between those two places, in the end, they both lost and sold up shop, shame really. Also, while I am here, does anyone miss Beatties the model shop ? I do. King Rat 04-11-2006, 12:03 I am yet another one who remembers Redgates/Zodiac and Hamleys, I used to spend hours in those places, I met one lad who became a good friend in Hamleys and used to dream of being one of the magicians who displayed their products on the shop floor. I also remember when Redgates changed their image to try and pull punters away from Hamleys, there was a big price war between those two places, in the end, they both lost and sold up shop, shame really. Also, while I am here, does anyone miss Beatties the model shop ? I do. Can you clarify at which locations Zodiac and Hamleys all used to be? I remember Beatties model shop I really miss them as well there was one on Pinstone St. & the other was in Meadowhall, What ever happend to Beatties?? Kry10 04-11-2006, 16:49 Zodiac was at the same location where Sunwin House is now situated, same building. Hamleys was on the Moor, I believe it's a clothes shop now, next door to a shop that sometimes sells various bargain stuff. Beatties went under due to various reasons, the main reason due to losing money hand over fist. I once had a model on display in their case, it was a Predator model I had made and painted, I was well proud of it and used to take friends and family to see it, lol, the things kids do huh. lyndix 04-11-2006, 22:25 Redgates was wicked! It`ll never be beaten, and I always remember it having the best Father Christmas in town! Bago 04-11-2006, 22:39 What no one remembers Wilson Gumperts in Fitzalan square,I must be getting old then!!!!! Where? Where? You must be. :hihi: All I can remember is Redgate in the mid-80s. Then suddenly we have a McDonald as well. The very first one, on The Moor. Wooo-hoo. :) Zebra 04-11-2006, 23:20 Yep I recall Redgates/Zodiac and Hamleys. My slightly older cousins used to get the bus into town and go and play with all the toys on display for hours - and it was allowed by the store. Being younger I wasn't allowed to go except once, just before it closed down, I felt like I was being naughty, playing with toys which weren't mine. I also remember my Nannan taking me in there for a treat and I spent ages looking at the Barbies, Sindys and Sylvanian families in wonder and a total inability to choose. Does anyone else remember the huge car by the escalator on the top floor. I think it was a battery powered kids car for age 10 or so and cost the earth (or so it seemd back then) and everyone would admire it and wish for it, no one I knew got one. My Nannan used to buy me stuff in Beatties, cool pencils or rubbers - that's what I was into other than my 'plastic friends' (as my Dad called them), them she'd take me for a milkshake in Wimpy.... ahh the days... when a milkshake practically turned you inside out with the suction power needed to drink it. Burnt Stones 05-11-2006, 17:47 Redgates was wonderful. Does anyone remember a toyshop in Broomhill next to where the York pub is ? The old lady who owned it always looked cross but she used to let you pay a bit each week until you could afford the toy you wanted. Gemima 05-11-2006, 20:48 I remember Redgates as a kid, was that the one with the Reindeer Sleigh Ride that took you to see Father Christmas or was that Co-op? I remember the old geezer in the lift all togged up:hihi: Angel_Heart 05-11-2006, 20:56 That was co-op, they still do it, but, it's not as good as it was when my boyfriend was a youngun. begirl 06-11-2006, 14:33 It's so lovely to hear all these memories of Redgates. The shop was owned by my mother's family; it started out selling furs and prams, on Fargate. The shop was then bombed in World War 2 and they relocated to moorhead (now Sunwin House). By this time they decided to expand into baby stuff and toys. The whole shop was staffed by family members and very loyal friends. I am now 38 and have ace memories of going as a girl and being allowed to "help myself". The funny thing is that the only thing I remember taking was a plastic ring; they used to have them in boxes on the counter; all sparkly and jewelled! There is still one remaining survivor of the original staff, my great aunt who is 98 and in a Nursing Home in Nether Edge. She has some amazing stories to tell. The demise of Redgates was almost certainly due to the arrival of big chain stores selling toys. Big shame; there is nothing else like it. Santa's grotto was a huge winter wonderland set up where you walked through windy paths before meeting Santa himself! oh joy! Keep talking and keep the memories going!:) jpow112 06-11-2006, 16:53 I'm 42 - I can picture Redgates in my mind's eye - model kits on the left as you walk in, farm models on the right, dinky toys and corgi on the back wall. I can picture the height of the shelf where I bought my Shadow Mobile, my James Bond Aston Martin, and my Hornby trains. Marvellous. As I remember, Hamleys opened before Redgates closed, then I think Redgates closed, then Hamleys closed, and can't remember when Beatties opened on Pinstone street, but they must have taken some business away too. All fond memories, apart from the time I got chucked out of Redgates for opening the model kits to see what was inside! nightwish 06-11-2006, 16:57 Me and my friends used to spend hours in Redgates mainly in the Barbie doll department they had every single Barbie that was out at the time and all the clothes and accessories you could wish for. Then when we had finished in there we used to ride up and down in the lift but I dont remember ever getting stuck in it. We must really have annoyed the staff its a surprise we did'nt get banned! Jilly69 11-11-2006, 11:42 Redgates was fantastic at Christmas time. I remember their train sets and train tracks which ran around the store. lyndix 11-11-2006, 15:53 I have a vague feeling you might be right that Hamleys relocated into the Redgates building in about 1987/1988 [possibily Redgates sold out] - they didn't last very long before it closed down for good, so that might be why no one remembers. This might be a false memory though! I certainly remember the stupid rocket lift - its days were numbered when that arrived. Hamleys was definitely on the moor, it is now "Mark One". I only know this for sure because I did my work experience there when it first opened! rach73 11-11-2006, 16:01 Absolutly loved Redgates, Toys r us is nothing to what redgates was, there santas grotto was ace. milted 11-11-2006, 19:49 Iremember REDGATES in 1937 The shop was then siuated at MOORHEAD Long gone now Moorhead was on a short road between the end of Union st and near th top of the Moor Wonderful toy displays Electric Trains was my love They were the best But I remember it mainly,because I was sheltering in the basement the night Sheffield was blitzed That was the night I saw the Moor on fire both sides from top to bottom and poor old Redgates with it Missdan 11-11-2006, 19:53 It's so lovely to hear all these memories of Redgates. The shop was owned by my mother's family; it started out selling furs and prams, on Fargate. The shop was then bombed in World War 2 and they relocated to moorhead (now Sunwin House). By this time they decided to expand into baby stuff and toys. The whole shop was staffed by family members and very loyal friends. I am now 38 and have ace memories of going as a girl and being allowed to "help myself". The funny thing is that the only thing I remember taking was a plastic ring; they used to have them in boxes on the counter; all sparkly and jewelled! There is still one remaining survivor of the original staff, my great aunt who is 98 and in a Nursing Home in Nether Edge. She has some amazing stories to tell. The demise of Redgates was almost certainly due to the arrival of big chain stores selling toys. Big shame; there is nothing else like it. Santa's grotto was a huge winter wonderland set up where you walked through windy paths before meeting Santa himself! oh joy! Keep talking and keep the memories going!:) I work with an 81 year old lady, who used to work in the offices at Redgates I beleive, she still works as a volunteer with us. milted 11-11-2006, 20:03 I never remember Redgates being in Fargate, But the Redgates I remember was at Moorhead !940 volvoB10M 12-11-2006, 11:44 I still have a Redgates catalogue in mint condition,the stuff inside is amazing all quality toys Hornby,Triang ect... die cast cars not the plastic trash they fob the kids off with today. PhilMurray 13-11-2006, 23:37 Anyone have memories of Coopers Toys in Rotherham, was smaller but had wierd stairs joining two seperate shops together. They were very narrow and steep and wouldn't be allowed in this day of disabled access building regulations. Was just as much a mass of toys just more crammed to the rafters with stuff. Yes it was a thinkings man redgates.............i loved their tin soldiers suggs69 13-11-2006, 23:45 redgates what a great old toy shop it was got all my starwars figures from there... great days....:) Pauly 14-11-2006, 00:01 Redgates was excellent. I got all my handheld Nintendo games from there. Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong etc. Great fun, shame I don't have them anymore though. Star Wars figures and ships from there too. :D Wasn't over keen on Hamleys. :roll: flufftier 14-11-2006, 20:10 Redgates was brilliant a 'proper' toy shop. I used to love going in there as a kid. They had lots of plastic animals in tubs and I always used to pester my mum to get one! CorkerSWFC 14-11-2006, 20:19 I remember Redgates the Toy Shop as a kid and thought it was absolutley fantastic:thumbsup: Redgates was situated on Furnival Gate in City Centre - Were sunwin house CO-OP is now. Toys R Us is quite good now but I think Redgates was something Really Special, or is it just that I miss being a kid and them magical years? Anytime I was taken to town I used to be in heaven just being in this shop! I would be very interested to know what you Forumers thought of Redgates? Will there ever be a Toy Shop like this again? Do you know of anywere like Redgates? What memories do you have of Redgates? Which specific Toys do you remember getting from Redgates? Please discuss - Redgates RIP yes i remember redgates and also when it got turned into zodiac toy shop aswell, i used to get my centurians from there a subbuteo and transformers oh those were the days...:cool: pollyann 14-11-2006, 21:35 I Remember Redgates In 1961 I Was Expecting My First Baby.i Was In Town With My Mum We Looked In The Window And There Was The Most Beautiful Pram We Had Ever Seen It Was On A Stand Going Round,it Was A Silver Cross High Slung,it Was Cream In Colour Wth The Hood And Apron Covered In A Pat,tern Of Rose,s,it Was Priced At £21 .i Knew We Couldnt Afford It.but My Mum Gave Me£10 To Put On It.my Mum Had A Milk Round At The Time My Husband And My Brother Worked On It, My Brother Met His Future Wife She Worked In The Office There Redgates Was Missed When It Closed bibs 14-11-2006, 22:30 i remember redgates,met darth vader there, proper **** my pants Nicholarse 14-11-2006, 22:45 Blo#dy hell I remember Redgates. I always thought - as a kid - that when I grew up I'd work there! Madness. I'd totally forgotten about it. NM Kristian 14-11-2006, 22:51 Mod Note: Threads Merged. smedley 16-11-2006, 11:02 I was just having a 'Sheffield moment'. My parents are still there and I will be coming home at Christmas for some Yorkshire puddings and plenty of Hendo's sauce. I don't know why but I stumbled across High Hazels Park on Google Earth and realised, with much sadness, that the boating lake has gone. Gutted! Still, might take a drive up there when I'm over. haven't been in there for donkey's years. Bonfire nights were always good. Anyway, looking at that stuff made me remember this site, so I thought I'd have a look on here and I've just been reading this forum. My memories of Redgates are very cloudy now, but I do remember it being the best shop in the world, ever. It was always a treat going in there, even when you can away with nowt. Am I right in thinking the bikes were on the top floor? This is circa late 70s Hamleys wasn't a patch, but I always thought Beatties was alright. biker 16-11-2006, 22:22 I remember the shop being gutted and Zodiac toys having it all rebuilt.The builders ripped out all the escalators and fitted a rocket lift that ascended an open shaft with floating spacemen and other space equipment.It was great for the kids.They also released smoke into the shaft making it look really good.Unfortunately this used to set off the fire alarm!! The trouble was it didnt open until after christmas and I think they missed the main selling season.I remember the TV companies filming drivable flash cars outside on the pavement (for kids).In spite of my efforts I wasnt on tv.Fame eluded me again !!! The store only lasted about a year and later the COOP moved in and had the lift ripped out and escallators refitted. bendus2 17-11-2006, 01:18 Maybe I am wrong. Didn't Redgates become Hamleys ?? Plain Talker 17-11-2006, 08:40 no, hamleys was omn the moor, IIRC, near Debenhams (I think in the mark one shop) Redgates was round the corner in what became the Co-op, "sunwin house" Sheff2006 17-11-2006, 17:51 Hi there. Redgates? Wow! now thats what I call a fantastic memory! Spent hours in there when I was a young lad lol. Regards...Mark stevew 18-11-2006, 13:33 There were three great toy shops in Sheffield which I used to use as a kid for buying Hornby and Dinky products; Redgates, Wilson & Gumperts and does any one else remember Gordon Jowells (spelling?) at the top of Church Street. kenfozzy 19-11-2006, 11:26 My Father started work at Redgates when he first left school. It was his first and only job as I can remember and he was there all his life as the Redgates Van Driver. There was a short break when Redgates was bombed in the Blitz and he then was delivering milk (bulk) to schools etc. He returned to Redgates when they re-organised and moved into premises at the bottom of Ecclesall Rd. at the bottom of the Moor. I remember Redgates from a very early age of about 5 or 6yrs old, I am 62yrs young now and having four Grand sons I wish that there was a place like Redgates that they could experience. The family name of the owners was NUNN. There was Mr. George, Mr. Victor, Mr. Frank and the son of Mr. George, Mr. Michael. There were also two sisters, Miss Daisy and Miss Dolly who were very rarely seen spending all day in the office. I met the Nunn family at a very early age and they remain in my memory as the nicest (rich)(my description) people that I have ever known. They never forgot my mum, my sister or myself when Xmas came around. they looked after my mum when father died a couple of years before his retirement. Redgates did have a shop at Fizalan Square and the name I think was Wilson and Gumpet. They returned to the top of the Moor into premises that was an old Hotel/Pub called The Grapes. When I was about 13yrs old I was asked if I would like to work for them Saturdays near to Xmas as a Runaround lad. I had a few years earning a few bob on a Saturday and Sunday re-stocking shelves for the following week. This was at the Moorhead the top floors being used for lay-by's. Pressies put back for a customer until the last payment was made and then they were collected. I was the one running up and down the stairs, three floors I covered to fetch one box. Come Xmas eve when the shop closed All of the Mr. Nunns would put something into my top pocket as I was leaving with my dad. I know the name Redgates must be engraved in many Sheffield peoples memories But for me along with Redgates there is the name NUNN, the kindest family I have known. I am now living in Cornwall just over the Devon boarder from Plymouth. I try to visit Sheffield as often as I can but it canges so often I hardly recognise the place.... More later. milted 19-11-2006, 21:48 To kenfozie Cornwall Thanks good information But satisfy my curiosity Can you remember where the shop was before the war I am sure that it was at what was once called the Moorhead a little three cornered bit of rd with somesort of monument,Public toilets Transport offices ect The buses for Derbyshire used to start from there I am certain that I sheltered under the on Blitz night til we got turned out when the building caught The the pub you mentioned was on the other side next to the Public Benifit Shoe shop 1940 kenfozzy 19-11-2006, 22:22 To Milted. Good memory. Yes the buses to Derbyshire did leave from Moorhead and the little three cornered thing had the statue of Queen Victoria later to be moved nearer to the Town Hall top of Fargate. I have seen pictures of Moorhead on one of the other Sheffield Photo sites. I think it is the one with Sheffield Libraries in, the addy is :- http://www.picturesheffield.com/database_search.php you will find tons of stuff there, even a picture of the frontage of Redgates after the blitz. Go into search, select 'M' and search Moorhead. Results 51 - 60, picture y01295. Ken. kenfozzy 19-11-2006, 22:58 To milted, If you stood on the Moor facing the monument, Redgates was to the right. Yes the buses for Derbyshire did start from around there somewhere and the P.B.Shoe shop was to the left of the monument. If you go onto http://picturesheffield.com/database_search.php select 'M' go to Moorhead. Results 51 - 60. pic. y01295 this picture shows the Grapes and Redgates very close on the corner I believe. Ken. katy_pie 21-11-2006, 22:44 I remember redgates very well. unfortunatly i mention it to other people and they look at me like i'm making it up! my granparents used to take me in every other weekend and after hours of walking round the store, i would spend my money on somthing that would keep me interested till next visit. it's amazing what 50p could buy from them. now i have a son of my own shame it isn't that way now! oldbri 14-01-2007, 19:14 Redgates = Alladins Cave for a child adamw 14-01-2007, 21:59 OK...my thoughts... Redgates was I think taken over by Zodiac Toys Ltd towards the end of the late 1980's. Like previous posters have mentioned Zodiac refurbished the store. Internet research indicates that Zodiac Toys Ltd was a medium sized toy retailer based in small/medium sized towns and cities. I seem to remember a logo on the side and front of the old building with a rainbow going over a redgate and the letters "Toy World" underneath. The Rainbow was the logo for Zodiac Toys. Does anyone know of a photo knocking about of Redgates to prove my suspicsions? Redgates/Zodiac must have closed in Spring 1991, because I remember the Zodiac store in Chesterfield, with a notice in the window "Store Closed company in Administration", time of a birthday so I remember well. I remember Hamleys as well. Think that closed about 1992/1993 ish. Any photos of Interior/Exterior of Redgates anyone??? Super much missed place :( milted 14-01-2007, 23:24 To Micheal Yes ,you are quite right Redgates wae originaly at the Moorhead and moved to Leopole st after the Blitz when it was burnt down and bombed in 1941 cdtiman 15-01-2007, 18:39 Wasn't it firstly on the Moor, where General Stationers used to be? (I don't know what the present business is there, today, but it's opposite Debenham's.) Then did it not relocate round the corner to Furnival Gate? I went to the Furnival Gate Redgates on many an occasion. It really was dreamland. I think the Dinky and Matchbox toy cars were at the rear on the ground floor, prams and cots and the like upstairs and I can't recall quite what downstairs, board games perhaps? And as others have said, at Christmas it was the most exciting place to drag your parents to and cry 'but please Mum', 'oh go on Dad'. Great place indeed! the stationers in question was called quadrant stationers (which used to be opposite pauldens then i think ) after redgates moved round the corner Plain Talker 16-01-2007, 08:29 there was a photo in the star this weekend just gone, (13/1/06) of the interior of Redgates store from about 1975. it was in the "now and then" nostalgia section where they publish pics from their archives. saxon51 10-04-2007, 15:39 Just discovered this image. Probably the first glimpse of REDGATES (http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s21301) a young kid of the early 1960s would get when emerging from the Union Street exit from Cambridge Arcade. It would seem miles - and a lot of nagging from mum - away. milted 10-04-2007, 22:01 Hello Saxon, Stepping out of Cambridge Arcade onto Union St and turning left, He could'nt see Redgates until he got to the end (almost) of Union ST because of a slight bend to the right, By the Public Benifit Shoe company. Yea it would seem a long way Cheers milted 10-04-2007, 22:05 For Saxon 1 Sorry , I should have said,out of Cambridge Arcade, turn RIGHT saxon51 11-04-2007, 19:43 Hello Saxon, Stepping out of Cambridge Arcade onto Union St and turning left, He could'nt see Redgates until he got to the end (almost) of Union ST because of a slight bend to the right, By the Public Benifit Shoe company. Yea it would seem a long way Cheers Yes, granted. But if you look at the image I posted the link to you can see Redgates clearly, and the photo must have been taken from not much further down Union Street than where Cambridge Arcade was. Maybe a 'few steps' out of Cambridge Arcade rather than 'immediately'. milted 11-04-2007, 22:58 To Saxon, You seem to be forgetting,thatwalking from the Arcade past the Union St picture house to the end of Union St, one then had to cross Furnival St to get to the start of Moorhead and Redgates I was sheltering under Redgates,the night of Sheffield Blitz, incidentally.1940 docmel 12-04-2007, 10:50 Just discovered this image. Probably the first glimpse of REDGATES (http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s21301) a young kid of the early 1960s would get when emerging from the Union Street exit from Cambridge Arcade. It would seem miles - and a lot of nagging from mum - away. Saxon Got to disagree with you. A child in the 60's emerging from the bottom of Cambridge Arcade would NOT see Redgates - at that time it was still at the top of the Moor. Your picture does show the location where Redgates moved to eventually and where it ended it's life but there is no way when this pic was taken was Redgates where you say it is. Malky 12-04-2007, 11:13 Maybe I am wrong. Didn't Redgates become Hamleys ?? Whenever I am in London I have to take a walk round Hamleys, it reminds me of my childhood and walking round Redgates with my parents. docmel 13-04-2007, 12:47 At last someone had found a pic of the Redgates on teh Moor - it is on the Sheffield History Forum http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=91&st=40 Please note that the pic I am reffering to is at teh end of the thread - someone has posted a 'doctored' pic of Funival gate - as an obvious joke - cus the 'editing' is so bad!! The pic I am reffering to must be late 50's early 60's - a gem saxon51 13-04-2007, 14:22 To everyone who knows for sure where Redgates was in the 60s, I am sorry for the confusion. All I ever remember is going into the one on Furnival Gate/Street. As I was 15 and a half years old in 1967, and in the army as a boy soldier then so not at home in Sheffield, I don't remember ever going in there any later than this. Because I would only ever have gone in there as a kid, then I am obviously losing brain cells rapidly. I am now worried as to how I can recall the inside of the store, including the glass case of Brittain's farm animals - just inside and to the right - when I never ever went in the place. :huh: I'm going to lie down now.:hihi: I repeat ... sorry for confusion.;) Heeley tyke 15-04-2007, 01:05 To Milted. Good memory. Yes the buses to Derbyshire did leave from Moorhead and the little three cornered thing had the statue of Queen Victoria later to be moved nearer to the Town Hall top of Fargate. I have seen pictures of Moorhead on one of the other Sheffield Photo sites. I think it is the one with Sheffield Libraries in, the addy is :- http://www.picturesheffield.com/database_search.php you will find tons of stuff there, even a picture of the frontage of Redgates after the blitz. Go into search, select 'M' and search Moorhead. Results 51 - 60, picture y01295. Ken. I remember the statue of Queen Victoria. Below the statue was an old 12pdr. cannon from the Napoleonic Wars. It was taken away early in the war to be melted down. herrim 16-04-2007, 17:30 Can anybody remembe the Subuteo tournements that REdgats used to hold? biker 16-04-2007, 19:45 To everyone who knows for sure where Redgates was in the 60s, I am sorry for the confusion. All I ever remember is going into the one on Furnival Gate/Street. As I was 15 and a half years old in 1967, and in the army as a boy soldier then so not at home in Sheffield, I don't remember ever going in there any later than this. Because I would only ever have gone in there as a kid, then I am obviously losing brain cells rapidly. I am now worried as to how I can recall the inside of the store, including the glass case of Brittain's farm animals - just inside and to the right - when I never ever went in the place. :huh: I'm going to lie down now.:hihi: I repeat ... sorry for confusion.;) I remember the Brittains glass cases straight in front of the ground floor entrance.I still have some of their motorcycle models that I bought there.Alf Hagons sprinter and Greeves scrambler Questor 18-04-2007, 10:20 When I was a little lad around 4or5 yrs old my nan used to take me every Friday to Castle market for a plate of cockles whilst she had a plate of tripe. She used to suck it cause she had no teeth. Then she always took me to Redgates & bought me a Dinky toy. By the time I got home I'd always pulled all the tyres off it. Redgates was toy heaven to a little lad. Betty Boob 19-04-2007, 10:02 i remember redgates has a very small child, my dad took me there to buy me my first doll there were loads to choose from, i will always remember that day because my dad showed me the very first doll that had a willy :confused: and i screamed the shop down saying dolls dont have willies. i can laugh about it now but not at the time :hihi: pavlo1969 20-04-2007, 00:12 i remember my bro getting caught shop lifting by herol "bomber" graham who was a store detective in there. pavlo1969 20-04-2007, 00:15 i remember redgates has a very small child, my dad took me there to buy me my first doll there were loads to choose from, i will always remember that day because my dad showed me the very first doll that had a willy :confused: and i screamed the shop down saying dolls dont have willies. i can laugh about it now but not at the time :hihi: Your doll has a willy know hehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!:love: Heeley tyke 20-04-2007, 00:39 When I was about 12-13, I developed a passion for model railways and built my own layout. I found, however, that Redgates only sold traditional Hornby stuff and I wanted something a little more realistic. I found exactly what I wanted at another shop on Church St. Gordon Joel's. Anyone remember it? pavlo1969 20-04-2007, 02:02 When I was about 12-13, I developed a passion for model railways and built my own layout. I found, however, that Redgates only sold traditional Hornby stuff and I wanted something a little more realistic. I found exactly what I wanted at another shop on Church St. Gordon Joel's. Anyone remember it? i remember the one on London road. marshy2 22-04-2007, 15:45 jonjo did you get darth vaders autograph on a little piece of coloured paper like me and my cousin did.. and yes he was huge..lol ptrA 22-04-2007, 23:54 I worked on the new Redgates (Moorhead) as an apprentice, 52 years ago. Sheffalways 23-04-2007, 17:16 Who remembers the best toy shop in the world Redgates? I bought all my Subbuteo teams at Redgates (now Sunwin House) :D When I was a child, I remember my mum and dad taking me into Redgates at Christmas, the groto used to be wonderful and so magical. It was like every childs dream to go in Redgates. I can even remember my dad buying me my first train set from Redgates. firesmudge 24-04-2007, 14:36 The best actionman collection ever Daz2519 30-07-2007, 06:51 OMG i remember Redgates it was THE best toy shop, way better than Hamlins. Its was every kids dream to be taken into Redgates for a treat floor after floor of toys. Such a shame we lost it. Redgates should have been the no1 toys shop not Hamlins. when i look back it reminds me of the toy shop on the film 'Home Alone' lol mind you everything looks massive when you a kid. Gangan 10-08-2007, 14:24 Here is a copy of a painting of Redgates. http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/image-2.jpg honeyb35 18-08-2007, 20:41 I remember redgates, although only very vaugely, as I was still young when it closed. I remember waiting for a lift with my parents one christmas in there, the doors opened and a huge robot walked out......it was terrifying lol. I remember all the other kids trying to get autographs whilst me and my sister had hysterics cos we didnt want to get in the lift after that! Nigel Womersle 19-08-2007, 01:58 When I was a kid, my Dad took me there. He bought me a cine projector (9.5mm and hand turned). Years later, I worked two real ones, both taller than me. I have always been a cinema nut. Plain Talker 19-08-2007, 09:23 Here is a copy of a painting of Redgates. http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u179/hunnybunch37/image-2.jpg Ooh a Terry Gorman painting. Cheers for sharing that, gangan. Fareast 19-08-2007, 09:42 Redgates, a shop of lovely memories ; I think the best for me, was looking for any new board games that might have come out or the annuals of ' Dandy ', ' Beano '......etc A similar place [ a bit off topic ] was the downstairs toy shop in the Co-op building at the bottom of Ecclesall Road. Gangan 19-08-2007, 16:22 Ooh a Terry Gorman painting. Cheers for sharing that, gangan. I have 4 Sheffield pics by him.They were issued as cards one Xmas by The Royal Mail.My sister in law put them in frames for me. One is of Paradise Square in the Winter time. One is at the Market facing The Norfolk Arms and Dixon Lane. The other is outside Redmans which is next door to Central Picture House.Not sure where that is,but the trams are heading towards Malin Bridge! I have all 4 on my bedroom wall to remind me of Sheffield. I would have had to take the sealed backing off to read who the Painter was because I'd forgotten,so thanks for reminding me it was Terry Gorman.Now I can Google his name and hopefully find out a bit more about him. If you like I'll scan in the other 3 pics and post them on here for you to see. :) onnie 24-09-2007, 15:51 Had the best Santa ever!!! purlgirl 24-09-2007, 23:16 What a fantastic shop this was my mum used to take me every saturday I used to get a small pack of crayola crayons if we were really well off that week I got a 24pack with all the great colours. The best bit was going upstairs to look at the dolls houses they even had lights that worked always wanted one of those. Sadly we have been overtaken with Toys r us no atmosphere except at christmas when its complete chaos and mayhem. Bring back redgates I say:hihi: RockDrummer 09-10-2007, 02:19 Apart from all my Scalectrix stuff, I bought a Jetex engine from Redgates - a solid fuel jet engine for christs sake, complete with fuel and fuse wire. Strapped it to a control-wire combat wing. Dont think you can buy such stuff these days, health and safety an'all... dont know how we ever survived.. and it's a damned shame Redgates didn't survive either :( marshy2 09-10-2007, 08:27 Ho yes.. the thrill of redgates on a saturday morning when i was a kid .. it was earths answer to heaven... nyala 09-10-2007, 12:04 redgates was such a great shop,i remember my grandparents taking my brother and i to buy fireworks,downstairs there was a glass counter with all of them layed out. i've lived in africa for 16 years now and a good friend of ours here,judith alabaster is the daughter of the old owners JenC 09-10-2007, 12:16 It's a real shame Redgates went :( Sheffield needs a big traditional toy shop, it'd be so magical for kids. All they have these days is toys 'r' us. Great :roll: |