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fox20thc
27-04-2006, 08:39
The forum is teeming with people complaining about this and that. Graffiti, groups of kids standing together outside shops ect.

I wondered, what do you tolerate and what do you see as totally unacceptable.

I await your input :)

cheapthrillz
29-08-2009, 16:22
Well I give up, everytime the Somali Community Centre closes next to Waitrose Ecclesall Road there is group of youths who start congregating, smoking skunk and grebbing all over the stairs and intimadting people coming in and out of the flats, this has been happening for almost 6 months now, myself and my neighbours have reported them several times before, logged all the incident no's and FA has been done.

nuttygirl
29-08-2009, 17:36
Well I give up, everytime the Somali Community Centre closes next to Waitrose Ecclesall Road there is group of youths who start congregating, smoking skunk and grebbing all over the stairs and intimadting people coming in and out of the flats, this has been happening for almost 6 months now, myself and my neighbours have reported them several times before, logged all the incident no's and FA has been done.

If nothing's being done, trying to get a group of residents together and arrange a meeting with the police. A group front often works wonders.

cheapthrillz
13-09-2009, 22:26
If nothing's being done, trying to get a group of residents together and arrange a meeting with the police. A group front often works wonders.

I've tried to get my immediate neighbours together and see if they're willing to do anything, but can't really due to work and othe commitments.

But the main problem is lack of support from the Police as your dealing with very volatile people heavily involved with ABM.

sibon
13-09-2009, 22:31
But the main problem is lack of support from the Police as your dealing with very volatile people heavily involved with ABM.

Have you spoken with your Safer Neighbourhoods Team? They tend to be more responsive than the main police stations.

cheapthrillz
13-09-2009, 22:51
Have you spoken with your Safer Neighbourhoods Team? They tend to be more responsive than the main police stations.

is that the new name for the 'plastic community Police?

sibon
13-09-2009, 22:56
is that the new name for the 'plastic community Police?

No. It is the current name for the Safer Neighbourhoods Team (http://neighbourhood.southyorks.police.uk/sheffield). Try them, they have been very helpful to me in sorting out some antisocial behaviour.

hard2miss
13-09-2009, 23:36
Well I give up, everytime the Somali Community Centre closes next to Waitrose Ecclesall Road there is group of youths who start congregating, smoking skunk and grebbing all over the stairs and intimadting people coming in and out of the flats, this has been happening for almost 6 months now, myself and my neighbours have reported them several times before, logged all the incident no's and FA has been done.



You havent a prayer, they have niether the will or resorces to try making a group of people that have no respect for this country and way of life try to conform to the law. Its sad but true and I am no BNP nut job either, just see it how it is.

cheapthrillz
14-09-2009, 13:02
You havent a prayer, they have niether the will or resorces to try making a group of people that have no respect for this country and way of life try to conform to the law. Its sad but true and I am no BNP nut job either, just see it how it is.

it's not all, just the majority, remember though they're from a war torn country so emulating this culture is nothing new, although the ABM are responsible for the recent shootings this is still childs play compared to Somalia.

auto98uk
14-09-2009, 13:10
I have to ask, what is the problem with people being associated with the Association of Breastfeeding Mothers?

auto98uk
14-09-2009, 13:11
Well I give up, everytime the Somali Community Centre closes next to Waitrose Ecclesall Road there is group of youths who start congregating, smoking skunk and grebbing all over the stairs and intimadting people coming in and out of the flats, this has been happening for almost 6 months now, myself and my neighbours have reported them several times before, logged all the incident no's and FA has been done.

So pretty much the same as any place that closes down which has lots of youths in it then?

(Not to you btw, to the people that seem to think this has something to do with them being somali)

max
14-09-2009, 13:18
Contact your local councillors and suggest setting up a meeting with the club committee and community elders. This was you can have a civilised debate with people who can get things done.

Kthebean
14-09-2009, 13:21
No. It is the current name for the Safer Neighbourhoods Team (http://neighbourhood.southyorks.police.uk/sheffield). Try them, they have been very helpful to me in sorting out some antisocial behaviour.

Unfortunately, some people will not try the avenues available to them, before dismissing them as useless.

Your Safer Neighbourhood Teams will also have local PACT meetings which are all to do with local policing priorities.

Wolfdancer
14-09-2009, 16:07
How does anyone from the school of namby pamby's expect to correct this problem then.
Are you going to approach them to hold a conversation...without a knife proof or bullet proof vest....other residents are too busy or have other committments...Yeah right!.
What is needed is some good old fashioned hard coppering...never mind what it was like for them in Somalia...this is Sheffield, England and you damn well conform.....

04jessops
14-09-2009, 16:10
What is needed is some good old fashioned hard coppering...never mind what it was like for them in Somalia...this is Sheffield, England and you damn well conform.....

Get over it.

Kthebean
14-09-2009, 16:13
How does anyone from the school of namby pamby's expect to correct this problem then.
Are you going to approach them to hold a conversation...without a knife proof or bullet proof vest....other residents are too busy or have other committments...Yeah right!.
What is needed is some good old fashioned hard coppering...never mind what it was like for them in Somalia...this is Sheffield, England and you damn well conform.....

For these somalian kids to be hanging round causing a nuisance and smoking weed probably is conforming with kids their age...

natjack
14-09-2009, 16:20
Get over it.Very helpful comment, presumably you don't have to contend with anti-social behaviour? I don't think it matters where the kids come from, there's no will to deal with them by the authorities. They just keep on getting away with it and get more and more confrontational with anyone that tries to deal with them.

Sharrow Man
14-09-2009, 16:52
I live on the same flats as Cheapthrillz, I don't know Cheapthrillz by the way. I can vouch for what they are saying. The estate has big time gone down hill the past few years. Please don't mistake these gangs for "Kids hanging round". They're organised drug dealers. Where do you think they get the money for the weed?

The police do very little in the area. Sure they have daytime patrols and PCSOs but all are gone once the gangs come out. The gangs act as if the estate (Washington Road and Exeter Drive) is their territory and no-one else has a say.

To Jessops, should a person have to "get over" the fact that people who are allegedly seeking asylum over here and paying very little into the country feel the streets of an estate are their turf and the rent and council tax payers aren't listened to.

Personally, I blame Sheffield Homes for their disgraceful housing policy of sticking all the down and outs that society has to offer in one place. Just because people live in flats doesn't mean the council should make them put up with all the dregs of society. Then I blame the Police for not listening to the concerns of the community and only half heartedly turning up when something goes wrong, like another shooting.

To those who say get together and ask the authorities. We have TARA on this estate. For 5 years TARA and Sheffield Homes have been made well aware of the state of the refuse disposal areas on the estate and have also been made aware of the fact that kids play in this refuge, people have to walk through it to get to their flats and a few people have fallen and injured themselves on the refuse. If after 5 years the council can't sort that out. What hope do you think they have at sortiong the problems of gangs from war-torn countries gathering together and taking over an area for the purpose of selling drugs?

04jessops
14-09-2009, 17:48
To Jessops, should a person have to "get over" the fact that people who are allegedly seeking asylum over here and paying very little into the country feel the streets of an estate are their turf and the rent and council tax payers aren't listened to.


A tiny proportion of them, yes. If you're subtly trying to hint towards your hate for immigration, just remember: most immigrants are decent, hard-working people. :)

04jessops
14-09-2009, 17:49
Very helpful comment.

Why thank you. :)

Sharrow Man
14-09-2009, 17:54
A tiny proportion of them, yes. If you're subtly trying to hint towards your hate for immigration, just remember: most immigrants are decent, hard-working people. :)

Where did I mention a hate for immigration? I live amongst immigrants, don't you think that would be a silly place to live if I hated immigrants.

Where did I also single out "most immigrants". I singled out the gangs that hang around on stairwells intimidating the hard working regardless of whether they're immigrants or not.

Whether you like it or not. The gangs in the area of Washington Road and Exeter Drive are of Somali and Asian descent. If you don't like that observation then I suggest you have a word with the council regarding their housing policy.

04jessops
14-09-2009, 17:56
Where did I mention a hate for immigration? I live amongst immigrants, don't you think that would be a silly place to live if I hated immigrants.

Where did I also single out "most immigrants". I singled out the gangs that hang around on stairwells intimidating the hard working regardless of whether they're immigrants or not.

Whether you like it or not. The gangs in the area of Washington Road and Exeter Drive are of Somali and Asian descent. If you don't like that observation then I suggest you have a word with the council regarding their housing policy.

I do apologise for jumping to conclusion. I'm sure you love immigration. I personally can't get enough of it. :thumbsup:

Sharrow Man
14-09-2009, 18:02
I do apologise for jumping to conclusion. I'm sure you love immigration. I personally can't get enough of it. :thumbsup:

Good for you. Now, you've got the closet racism thing out, what do you think the authorities should do regarding the anti-sociable behaviour which you suggest the residents should "get over". Do you think "get over it" is an appropriate way to deal with anti social behaviour?

MR BENN
14-09-2009, 18:03
Unfortunately, some people will not try the avenues available to them, before dismissing them as useless.

Your Safer Neighbourhood Teams will also have local PACT meetings which are all to do with local policing priorities.

my local Neighbourhood team in High Green have been superb in cracking down on illegal off road motorbikes . i cant praise them highly enough .

its up to residents to attend the monthly PACT meetings ,and working with the police and making their community safer.

04jessops
14-09-2009, 18:04
Good for you. Now, you've got the closet racism thing out, what do you think the authorities should do regarding the anti-sociable behaviour which you suggest the residents should "get over". Do you think "get over it" is an appropriate way to deal with anti social behaviour?

Yes. :) ;)

04jessops
14-09-2009, 18:05
its up to residents to attend the monthly PACT meetings ,and working with the police and making their community safer.

That's a very sensible post. I agree with you 100%. :o :)

MR BENN
14-09-2009, 18:05
Good for you. Now, you've got the closet racism thing out, what do you think the authorities should do regarding the anti-sociable behaviour which you suggest the residents should "get over". Do you think "get over it" is an appropriate way to deal with anti social behaviour?

theres always one leftie lurking ready to play the race card at every chance they get .

MR BENN
14-09-2009, 18:07
That's a very sensible post. I agree with you 100%. :o :)

Mark it in your Diary -the day you agreed with Benny :hihi:

04jessops
14-09-2009, 18:08
theres always one leftie lurking ready to play the race card at every chance they get .

Oh stop it! You're making me blush! :D

Wolfdancer
14-09-2009, 23:00
Why do I get the feeling that 04 jessops lives well away from these street gangs...mind you she is showing Fox Hill.....twinned with downtown Beirut.....In fact Fox Hill is probably worse than downtown Beirut.
Sorry 04 jessops I take it all back..... do you carry an AK 47 but only in broad daylight.

natjack
14-09-2009, 23:09
Why thank you. :)Don't thank me, it weren't meant as a compliment as I'm sure you know, seeing as my true thought was deleted :)

Powerage
15-09-2009, 15:21
I certainly feel for anyone living round there my niece was driving down one of the roads nr Leverton Gardens when a car full of Somalis blocked the road, one jumped out and before she could reverse opened the passenger door held a knife to her boyfriends throat and told them n****** were not welcome in that area as it was their patch basically. She did reverse pretty sharp at that. I told her to report it to police but she says its a waste of time, still I would still report it.

04jessops
15-09-2009, 20:15
Sorry 04 jessops I take it all back

Well can you take this back as well: :?:

mind you she is showing Fox Hill

I'm very much a man. Or at least I was the last time I looked. :D

04jessops
15-09-2009, 20:16
Don't thank me, it weren't meant as a compliment as I'm sure you know, seeing as my true thought was deleted :)

I think you need to go to the police if someone's deleting your thoughts. :loopy: Invasion of privacy, or what? :o

Ms Macbeth
15-09-2009, 22:03
The forum is teeming with people complaining about this and that. Graffiti, groups of kids standing together outside shops ect.

I wondered, what do you tolerate and what do you see as totally unacceptable.

I await your input :)

I find these unacceptable:
Wanton destruction of anything for no reason :(.
Spitting in the street :gag:
Litter & Fly tipping
Tagging
Using really offensive language loudly with no regard for who's around
Parents allowing their kids to hang about at 2am
People playing loud music or being really noisy - no regard for neighbours
Dogs that are allowed to roam unsupervised and owners who don't clean up their dog's mess

They should be unacceptable to everyone, but sadly they're not.

cheapthrillz
16-09-2009, 17:15
I have to ask, what is the problem with people being associated with the Association of Breastfeeding Mothers?

he he! Good one ABM = All Bout tha Money - those responsible for the recent shootings in Broomhall

cheapthrillz
16-09-2009, 17:19
Things are turning ugly very rapidly and the situation is getting out of hand, fights are breaking out between different Somali gangs selling ganja, I saw some swostica grafitti signs all around the flats the other day and now there's police notices everywhere asking if anyone knows anything.