Fireondaroof
06-05-2004, 08:56
I heard on the radio this morning that Schools might start selling condoms in tuck shops at School to try and combat teenage pregancy, what do people think of this?
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View Full Version : Teenage Pregnancy Fireondaroof 06-05-2004, 08:56 I heard on the radio this morning that Schools might start selling condoms in tuck shops at School to try and combat teenage pregancy, what do people think of this? Ned Ludd 06-05-2004, 09:24 :D Putting them in a tuck shop? They could get it all wrong, thinking that eating a raspberry flavoured condom prevents pregnancy! Phanerothyme 06-05-2004, 09:25 "miss- this chewing gum tastes horrible" "yes jenkins, but it's very good for blowing bubbles" Lickable 06-05-2004, 09:28 I think they shouldnt be sold in schools but instead, the whole idea of sex to be made a less embarresing subject for youngsters. That way they can buy them at a chemist without feeling silly. This would also prevent advertising underage sex in school tuckshops. *Twinkle* 06-05-2004, 09:43 Why sell them? Give them away for free. Zamo 06-05-2004, 09:51 Originally posted by caprice Why sell them? Give them away for free. Because kids will be kids... Condoms on heads (big ones I mean!) Condom water bombs Condoms balloons Condoms all over the play ground and streets etc., etc. Enough reasons? :) *Twinkle* 06-05-2004, 09:55 Yes, good reasons, but what about the people who want to use them for their proper purpose but are put off by the price? Lickable 06-05-2004, 10:00 The people who wanted to use them for proper reasons, wouldnt be able to get them cos they will be on everybody elses heads! elf 06-05-2004, 10:15 anything that helps reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions is probably a good thing :) Zamo 06-05-2004, 10:25 Originally posted by caprice Yes, good reasons, but what about the people who want to use them for their proper purpose but are put off by the price? Caprice, do you know any boys that would turn down sex if they had to buy their own condom? :) SaxonLeigh 06-05-2004, 12:04 Originally posted by caprice Why sell them? Give them away for free. they are free if dont be shy can be bothered to go to the youth clinic at the central NHS place in town (the one behind cutlers hall) they also supply free contrieptive pills, femidoms, pregnancy testing kits, STI tests etc. its free & they supply to under 16's & its all done with your doctors knoweldge & co-operation & its all confidential so if you dont want your parents to know. they also have places in firth park, the manor & other places in sheffield (listed in yellow pages). the thing is most kids dont know that these places are here, my friend told me when i was at school. the sex education was bad when i was at school (i left 4 years ago now), we had a two hour sex ed lesson two months before we left which was pointless as most of us had discussed sex with friends. i dont think its a good idea to sell condoms at school, i think there needs to be a better sex education system starting earlier, more emphasis on how much life changes after you have a baby (financial implacations, loss of childhood freedom etc). i think teenages need to be told about (more for young girls than young men) how the sex organs dont fully mature untill your 20 & having sex at an early age can cause complications with sex organs (eg, how having sex early can cause the womb to tilt & can cause complications conciving when older). i also think they should make every teenager take home the real life eletronic doll for two weeks so that they can experience how hard looking after a baby is. also i dont think the catholic schools will agree with selling condoms in school as they teach that sex before mariage is wrong. but i do think they should teach about different forms of contriception, what they prevent & where you can go & get free contriception. sex education needs up dating, for eg, there is no such thing as safe sex only safer sex & that condoms dont protect against every STI like hepititus B. Zamo 06-05-2004, 12:36 Originally posted by SaxonLeigh also i dont think the catholic schools will agree with selling condoms in school as they teach that sex before mariage is wrong. but i do think they should teach about different forms of contriception, what they prevent & where you can go & get free contriception. The Catholic church is against contraception - full stop. It doesn't matter whether it is used within marriage or not. There was recently a story about doctors giving sterilisation injection to girls of 14, which stops them falling pregnant for 3 years. Great idea. I think we should have a national campaign to get more young girls to do the same. In fact, why not offer every 15-17 y.o. girl a payment of £100 if they have the injection? It would save the country a fortune. Abdul 06-05-2004, 12:38 Originally posted by Zamo In fact, why not offer every 15-17 y.o. girl a payment of £100 if they have the injection? It would save the country a fortune. Interesting point Zamo, but will that stop the spread of STDs, now that boys won't be using condoms? More than likely it will contribute to an increase in STDs. Zamo 06-05-2004, 12:59 Originally posted by Abdul Interesting point Zamo, but will that stop the spread of STDs, now that boys won't be using condoms? More than likely it will contribute to an increase in STDs. Fair point but with 40,000 girls under 18 getting pregnant each year are they using condoms now? I suppose it could encourage more to go bareback and therefore increase STD's but we need a balance. Teenage pregnancy is a major problem in this country. magicgem 06-05-2004, 13:02 Originally posted by Fireondaroof I heard on the radio this morning that Schools might start selling condoms in tuck shops at School to try and combat teenage pregancy, what do people think of this? I dont think it will make too much difference, teenage pregnancy goes far further than not having protection its largely a vicious social cycle. Im not saying that this applies to everyone but I think the vast amount of girls still crave the security a baby will give them and they have parents/a community in the same situation of course it will be copied. Instead the cycle need to be broken-however I wouldnt want to be the person to try and attempt that SaxonLeigh 06-05-2004, 13:04 Originally posted by Zamo The Catholic church is against contraception - full stop. It doesn't matter whether it is used within marriage or not. quite true but even though they are against any form of contriception they still have to educate teenages about the different forms of contriception even if they think its wrong or not. i went to all saints RC high school (i am catholic) & even though in RE lessons we learnt all about how sex before mariage is wrong & how any form of barrier or homonal contriception is not accepted by the catholic church. we we still given a two hour lesson on different forms of contriception & the pro's & cons. t020 06-05-2004, 16:29 Sex education is to blame, IMO. Schools often do this too early, sometimes to kids as young as 7. It is no coincidence in my mind that as sex education in schools has risen, so too has the amount of teen pregnancies. "Here kids, heres what it is, how you do it and what to use, now don't do it until you're old enough". Like thats going to work. :loopy: Children should be allowed to be children for longer than they are. This would mean tighter controls on the media who aim magazines/TV programmes at kids that seem to almost promote promiscuity. Sidla 06-05-2004, 16:57 I disagree t020. Don't you think that children would find out about sex even without sex education? I knew what sex was long before I did any form of sex education. t020 06-05-2004, 17:03 Originally posted by Sidla I disagree t020. Don't you think that children would find out about sex even without sex education? I knew what sex was long before I did any form of sex education. There were less teen pregnancies BEFORE sex education in schools. Obviously the media would need to play their part too, willingly or otherwise. SatanInHeels 06-05-2004, 17:04 although the point that T020 makes is a very good one, ive got to agree with sidla. we did sex education in y6 (we were about 10-11 years old i think) but we knew about it long before that, i remeber being told by a friend when i was about 7 i think. didnt mean that we went out n did it at that age though!!! (i know that sounds kinda stupid) Sidla 06-05-2004, 17:42 Originally posted by t020 There were less teen pregnancies BEFORE sex education in schools. Obviously the media would need to play their part too, willingly or otherwise. Are you Mary Whitehouse in disguise... Oh no, wait, she's dead. IMO the real reason there are so many teenage pregnancies these days is because people don't have as many morals anymore. Back in the day, living in sin was frowned upon as was sex out of wedlock. These days people can't wait to jump in bed with one another. Not that I have a problem with any of the things listed above. But to be honest I can't really understand why some girls could be so stupid as to get pregnent unplanned when they have no chance of being able to support a child. Surely everyone knows that when you have sex there's a possibility that a pregnancy could occur. So why then would anyone have unprotected sex if they have no desire to raise a child? sarah_d 06-05-2004, 17:49 A lot of them don't think like us though,they still think like kids,which is what they are.Because everyone frowns on it it seems to them to be the cool thing to do (sex that is,not getting pregnant).They don't seem to put the two and two together.When i was at school if you hadn't slept with someone it meant no-one fancied you.Sometimes some affection seems better than no affection at all. Cyclone 06-05-2004, 22:14 there is strong evidence that indicates that increased and earlier sex education reduces the incidence of teen pregnancy. See swizterland and the netherlands for examples. Lowest rates of teen pregnancy in europe (compared to our highest rate) and ongoing sex education from about the age of 5. Smiler 06-05-2004, 22:26 It's quite a while since my (Catholic) sex-ed classes so maybe my point is out of date. My view is that sex-ed needs to be linked to self-esteem. i think some girls fall pregnant out of a desire to have someone to love them and to give them a role. Others have self-esteem so low that any kind of affection is seen as better than none and sex is a method of reaching out for love. If we could encourage some of our young people to have higher regard for themselves, feel more valued and that they have options for the future, then I think that people would be less likely to fall pregnant. Oh and yes free condoms, widely available. The water bombs would stop being funny after the first month or two. bulldog D 06-05-2004, 23:45 Originally posted by Sidla Are you Mary Whitehouse in disguise... Oh no, wait, she's dead. IMO the real reason there are so many teenage pregnancies these days is because people don't have as many morals anymore. Back in the day, living in sin was frowned upon as was sex out of wedlock. These days people can't wait to jump in bed with one another. Not that I have a problem with any of the things listed above. But to be honest I can't really understand why some girls could be so stupid as to get pregnent unplanned when they have no chance of being able to support a child. Surely everyone knows that when you have sex there's a possibility that a pregnancy could occur. So why then would anyone have unprotected sex if they have no desire to raise a child? While ever the desire for copulation exists there will always be pregnancies. This is a good thing as it means there will always be more human beings. However, there has to be a framework in which to bring these new human beings into, and this inevitably means responsibility by the copulatees(new word invented by me) sadly as they look on it as a brief bit of fun and not as the potential moment for a new life to begin they miss the whole point of the exercise. Even when every precaution is taken with protection, the possibility of pregnancy can occur. Never underestimate the bodies potential to reproduce and never class just the girls as stupid as it takes two to tango. |