View Full Version : What has the world come to?


Shazbat
25-04-2006, 12:32
I've just been in to the Walk-In Clinic at the RHH and been seen by a male nurse. In order to listen to my chest, he had to get a woman off reception to act as a chaperone!

What in the name of all that's Holy is that about? Well, I know exactly what it's about but seriously???? What's happened to this country that some poor male nurse (and for the record, a male nurse in a very funky wheelchair with flashing wheels) has to get a woman to watch him treat another woman :rant:

drolnhoj
25-04-2006, 12:36
I've just been in to the Walk-In Clinic at the RHH and been seen by a male nurse. In order to listen to my chest, he had to get a woman off reception to act as a chaperone!

What in the name of all that's Holy is that about? Well, I know exactly what it's about but seriously???? What's happened to this country that some poor male nurse (and for the record, a male nurse in a very funky wheelchair with flashing wheels) has to get a woman to watch him treat another woman :rant:

Interesting. I wonder if he would have to do the same if it was a male patient. I would have to admit that I would want a chaperone if I was being examined by some of the male nurses I have seen.

GazB
25-04-2006, 12:39
Because there are some sad, pathetic girls that set out to look for the opportunity to claim sexual harrassment, and probably get compensation for it.

Kthebean
25-04-2006, 12:39
Its standard proceedure to protect the patients from abuse and the doctors and nurses from false allegations. I think its a great idea - checks and balances all round. You can't trust someone just cos they are a nurse or a doctor and I'd always prefer to have a chaperone.

Thunzi
25-04-2006, 12:40
The receptionist was there just as much to protect the male nurse as much as she is you. Didn't this all come about after there were a series of legal actions against doctors and nurses? I do think its stupid. don't get me started on why the world sucks though, we'd be here for ever :D

Kthebean
25-04-2006, 12:44
There are also lots of cases of doctors and nurses abusing their positions of trust with vulnerable women. Its there to protect innocent parties on both sides. Nobody wants another Harold Shipman do they.

Kthebean
25-04-2006, 12:54
Doctor jailed for rape (http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/tm_objectid=14314353&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=police-doctor-jailed-for-15-years-name_page.html)

and another (http://www.southmanchesterreporter.co.uk/news/s/66/66938_rape_doctor_jailed.html)

more of the same (http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=573192006)

Andy
25-04-2006, 12:57
My mother recently had a doctor's appointment to discuss "womans issues". Unfortunatly the appointment was with a male doctor who refused to examine her and told her to book another appointment with a female doctor. This lead to a delay of several days before her treatment could start.

According to the website for my own doctors, all the doctors there are female (I realise there may be male doctors whose names are not listed on the website). How would I go on if I needed to be examined in this case? Would I have to go to a different doctor? :confused:

Dicko
25-04-2006, 13:00
No wonder waiting lists and casualty take forever!

Kthebean
25-04-2006, 13:01
Not sure andy depends on whether you minded having your bits on show to a lady doctor, hehe. I don't really mind being examined by either gender doctor cos they're just doing their jobs and its hardly sexual is it. I expect if you wanted to be examined by a male doctor you would be able to go to a different GP.

Its a shame about your mum though - the male doctor in the uni practice is fine with examining you if there is a nurse present - maybe that man has had a bad experience?

Andy
25-04-2006, 13:10
Not sure andy depends on whether you minded having your bits on show to a lady doctor, hehe. I don't really mind being examined by either gender doctor cos they're just doing their jobs and its hardly sexual is it. I expect if you wanted to be examined by a male doctor you would be able to go to a different GP.
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Wouldn't bother me. If I had a problem down there I'd just want it sorting - I wouldn't care who saw.

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Its a shame about your mum though - the male doctor in the uni practice is fine with examining you if there is a nurse present - maybe that man has had a bad experience?

Having the nurse present wasn't given as an option. She was simply told to re-book. What's particularly annoying is that she told the receptionist that she wanted to see the doctor about womans problems, that would obviously need an examination, but the receptionist still offered an appointment with a male doctor.

Kthebean
25-04-2006, 13:13
How incompetent, can she change surgeries?

melthebell
25-04-2006, 17:33
There are also lots of cases of doctors and nurses abusing their positions of trust with vulnerable women. Its there to protect innocent parties on both sides. Nobody wants another Harold Shipman do they.

yeah but theres only 1 or 2 like there is in every proffession..........the other 250000 or whatever are perfectly fine.............its just more pcness which is getting right on my tits

cant do this, cant do that, cant eat this, cant say that

tch

max
25-04-2006, 17:46
yeah but theres only 1 or 2 like there is in every proffession..........the other 250000 or whatever are perfectly fine.............its just more pcness which is getting right on my tits

cant do this, cant do that, cant eat this, cant say that

tch

Another area where you can blame PCness. :huh:

Why not blame the compensation culture which is far more likely to be the reason for this chaperoning?

melthebell
25-04-2006, 17:58
Another area where you can blame PCness. :huh:

Why not blame the compensation culture which is far more likely to be the reason for this chaperoning?

same difference

thats all part of the same thing in my book

Susie
25-04-2006, 18:08
Its not exactly a new thing, a female nurse had to watch over a male doctor when I had to go to hospital with a shoulder injury, this was about 10 years ago.

Susie
xx

Strix
25-04-2006, 19:17
I've just been in to the Walk-In Clinic at the RHH and been seen by a male nurse. In order to listen to my chest, he had to get a woman off reception to act as a chaperone!

What in the name of all that's Holy is that about? Well, I know exactly what it's about but seriously???? What's happened to this country that some poor male nurse (and for the record, a male nurse in a very funky wheelchair with flashing wheels) has to get a woman to watch him treat another woman :rant:
GGGGGRRRRRR!!!!!! I would feel far more uncomfortable with a receptionist in the room when baring all to a member of the medical profession :rant:

Don_Kiddick
25-04-2006, 19:53
Just when I'd perfected giving suppositories with no hands :o :o :o

Shazbat
25-04-2006, 21:17
Just seems ridiculous, whether it's a new thing or not. Does a male GP have to get a receptionist in to watch him examine a woman then? Because if it is the case I definitely object to any of the receptionists in my doctors' surgery chaperoning cos I hate the lot of them. In fact, had my doctors got a better system of appointments I wouldn't have had to go the Hallamshire Walk-In Clinic but that's a whole other :rant:

Incidentally, does it say in their job description that they have to chaperone nurses in the examination of the opposite sexes? I'm thinking probably not.

Greybeard
25-04-2006, 21:53
Just when I'd perfected giving suppositories with no hands :o :o :o

What are you using - a blow-pipe or a paint gun ? :hihi:

Tipex
25-04-2006, 23:38
Because there are some sad, pathetic girls that set out to look for the opportunity to claim sexual harrassment, and probably get compensation for it.

Very true, happens alot.

lizzmobile
26-04-2006, 08:16
Originally posted by Greybeard
What are you using - a blow-pipe or a paint gun ?

Knowing Don, he's probably using a catapult :rolleyes:

chickmonk
26-04-2006, 12:26
A good idea that male medics have chaperones.

I went to my GP about a bladder infection when I was 15 and was given a very thorough (and completely unnecessary) breast examination.

Didn't know any better at the time.

I guess you get pervs in every profession... :rolleyes:

Chicken Monkey x

Kthebean
26-04-2006, 12:31
GGGGGRRRRRR!!!!!! I would feel far more uncomfortable with a receptionist in the room when baring all to a member of the medical profession :rant:

Yes it is odd that it was a receptionist. Really it should be a nurse or another doctor!

GoGo_dancer
26-04-2006, 12:50
Just reminded me of when I went for an ECG about 5 years ago. I had to have my chest examined by some elderly male doctor. I was completely naked from the waist up, and there had to be a nurse present whilst the examination took place. She offered me a blanket to cover myself with whilst I was waiting for him to arrive, but it was soooo manky I decided to go without!

I did kind of feel sorry for him though, it was like he had to be careful where he looked incase I got the wrong impression or something!

Oh, and last year I had to go for a routine 'ladies' examination with our local nurse, and she had a trainee in the room. She asked if I minded and I said no, and they were having a right good nosy down there.....good job I'd waxed!! :hihi:

babychickens
26-04-2006, 12:58
Because there are some sad, pathetic girls that set out to look for the opportunity to claim sexual harrassment, and probably get compensation for it.

...and perhaps the claims for compensation may sometimes happen because there are some sad, pathetic men out there who sexually harrass girls in difficult situations, when they could easily have been protected?

no, i'm sorry, i retract that - you're right, it could only be that girls who go to the doctor/nurse/physio are looking to make money out of it. I regularly use smear tests as a way of affording new handbags.

CherryNicole
26-04-2006, 13:02
GGGGGRRRRRR!!!!!! I would feel far more uncomfortable with a receptionist in the room when baring all to a member of the medical profession :rant:

I used to feel well uncomfortable when I had to be the chaperone for the nurse, I didn't know where to look!



Incidentally, does it say in their job description that they have to chaperone nurses in the examination of the opposite sexes? I'm thinking probably not.

No it's the nurses own choice. The nurse that the OP had is the only nurse that does (well did) it when I worked there.

Yes it is odd that it was a receptionist. Really it should be a nurse or another doctor!

The WIC is horrendous under-staffed for how busy it gets (hence the sometimes long waits) So although it should be another nurse they just don't have the time. If you think it is going to be a problem having a male/female nurse you can request which sex you would like to see you (if there are the sexes of nurses available)

tingle
07-05-2006, 21:30
That's fair enough then surely if Cherry Nicole is right? If a nurse feels that he or she is vulnerable and is wary of an allegation being made against him or her, they should have the right to ask for a chaperone.

Personally, I trust medical professionals completely - smear tests and the suchlike are hardly sexual and I wouldn't want a chaperone there for my sake.

But there are some girls who make false allegations for whatever reason. Maybe they're attention seeking or looking for damages - but whatever their motive, that allegation can ruin a doctor's life. So any medical professional surely has the right to protect him- or herself if they feel it is necessary.

bladeslass
07-05-2006, 21:35
That's fair enough then surely if Cherry Nicole is right? If a nurse feels that he or she is vulnerable and is wary of an allegation being made against him or her, they should have the right to ask for a chaperone.

But there are some girls who make false allegations for whatever reason. Maybe they're attention seeking or looking for damages - but whatever their motive, that allegation can ruin a doctor's life. So any medical professional surely has the right to protect him- or herself if they feel it is necessary.

i agree :thumbsup:

Plain Talker
07-05-2006, 22:00
That's fair enough then surely if Cherry Nicole is right? If a nurse feels that he or she is vulnerable and is wary of an allegation being made against him or her, they should have the right to ask for a chaperone.

Personally, I trust medical professionals completely - smear tests and the suchlike are hardly sexual and I wouldn't want a chaperone there for my sake.

But there are some girls who make false allegations for whatever reason. Maybe they're attention seeking or looking for damages - but whatever their motive, that allegation can ruin a doctor's life. So any medical professional surely has the right to protect him- or herself if they feel it is necessary.

I'd rather have a chaperone (not a receptionist though ugh! I'd want a nurse or other medical person) for the sake of propriety, and to protect both parties, me from being assaulted, and the doctor from being falsely accused (not that I would do that, myself).

If someone's a perv, they will perv at anything, and can make something sexual out of nothing. this is why they pixel out the private areas on birth programmes, to stop folk leering. (horrid, horrid thought!)

When I was attacked, I had to have an examilation, and asked that, due to the nature of the attack, I be examined by another female. Imagine my horror when it was a male! And to add insult to injury, the supporter from the crisis helpline who accompanied me was not permitted to be in there with me, to support, reassure, and comfort me. That trauma was as bad as the initial attack.

tingle
17-05-2006, 20:39
That's competely ridiculous, PT, and I'm sorry to hear it.

THAT'S where the world's going mad- where professionals have to adhere to rules and regs and can't be flexible as and when required in a sensitive situation.

I really can't think of any reason why you shouldn't be allowed to have someone with you after your ordeal. Madness.

sauerkraut
18-05-2006, 07:54
I've had to undergo all manner of tests and examinations over the past few weeks with just about every kind of specialist- male and female - and there's never been a chaperone in sight. But there's every chance a receptionist will burst in leaving the door open at any point during the proceedings. And I see my GP in a ground floor room with a window facing on to a housing estate. And no, he doesn't draw the curtains. I guess that's continentals for you :rolleyes: