There's a problem with overweight people in the UK costing us 10billion. Locally there seems to be more and more people who are overweight.

I've been told now that people in Sheffield find the word "fattie" offensive.

What do you think?

No excuse for it, get some exercise done and stop stuffing your face.

IMO, if the persons weight has been proved to be the cause of a health problem, then they should have to pay for the treatment not the NHS.

I like the idea of self-sustainable gyms, where all the people running and cycling power the place. "If the lights are getting dimmer, you ain't getting thinner!"

Anyway, "lard arse" is far less offensive.

Originally posted by Micky
IMO, if the persons weight has been proved to be the cause of a health problem, then they should have to pay for the treatment not the NHS.

If this is so, perhaps smokers and drug takers should have to do the same?

Having listened to some of the program, it did seem the ones complaining were... How do I put this... This sort of people you have to explain films to! Not that that is a reason to get fat and eat rubbish all day. Too many people eat too much crap and do nothing else. This problem is not helped by the fact that a weeks worth of junk food from Jack Fulton's costs about the same as 5 portions of fruit and veg! I would say if this government wants people to eat healthily they should supply affordable fruit and veg, the trouble is this would not make any difference as most of these people would just eat the same crap! Perhaps they should try eating less of it. I am sure most fatties would be happy to use the term Druggies without complaint. Everyone I heard moaning on the program sounded like the scarey one from C4's Wife Swap, I am sure many of you know who I mean! Forced sterilisation, lets stop these people breeding, but thats another story!

Bloater is a better term

You have made some very interesting points here, ne...ek


Too many people eat too much crap and do nothing else. This problem is not helped by the fact that a weeks worth of junk food from Jack Fulton's costs about the same as 5 portions of fruit and veg!

I agree with you here. Check out the cost of fresh fruit and veg at the Somerfield in Firth Park (nearly £2 for six oranges or apples!), then compare those prices with the Jack Fulton's on the next road. I don't call them Sonofabitchfield for nowt :loopy:

I would say if this government wants people to eat healthily they should supply affordable fruit and veg, the trouble is this would not make any difference as most of these people would just eat the same crap!

It ain't the govts fault that fresh fruit and veg is so expensive! It's called corporate greed ;)

Seriously though, a culture change is required among those people. For instance, I have seen poor, overweight people (now that should be a contradiction) stocking up on cheap food from the bargain basement (ie, will expire within 5 minutes)
before making their way to the alcohol aisles and stocking up on loads of cheap booze and cigarettes...

Perhaps fatties should be banned from public transport until they achieve a weight we find acceptable.

"If you can pinch an inch then you're walking mate"

Originally posted by Jim
Perhaps fatties should be banned from public transport until they achieve a weight we find acceptable.
Who are 'we'?

To be honest you can't lose out by being fat, the food is cheaper and in the winter your heating costs are lower.

And for the record, I rarely use public transport, I walk almost everywhere.

what is this unhealthy food that is so cheap?

And why would you shop at summerfields if it costs £2 for 6 apples, when at morrisons it costs 99p for about 12?

It all depends what you class as "overweight", you'll find alot of people are "overweight" for their age/height but dont realise it.

There is a sort of stigma in regards to fat people, because there are some genuine problems regarding weight that you cant really do much about (such as Thyroid problems) which works both ways I believe.

There are far worse problems to worry about that fat people.

It's not so much cheap food I wouldn't say, it's more convenience food; microvavable meals and the like. The problem is, when you live alone it's difficult cooking for one, so wacking a ready made meal in the microwave is often the best solution. I rarely buy fruit because you normally have to buy it in bulk, so by the time it gets round to being eaten it has gone bad. One thing I hate is letting food go to waste, which is possibly part of the problem. :D

I have been making more of an effort recently though, started getting these pre-packed salads and eating more fish rather than meat.

Originally posted by Cyclone
what is this unhealthy food that is so cheap?


Burgers, frozen chips, frozen meat products, fizzy drinks, biscuits...

Originally posted by Cyclone
And why would you shop at summerfields if it costs £2 for 6 apples, when at morrisons it costs 99p for about 12?

Sonofabitchfield are aware that many of the shoppers in Firth Park and Shiregreen do not have access to a car, therefore cannot shop anywhere else because of the inconvenience.

So Sonofabitchfield can charge as much as they like, and the unfortunates can either shop there or starve.

Some people assume that being overweight equals greedy and lazy. I have been watching the FIT FARM on C4 and certain examples in there now show the world that being overweight equals being stupid.

Its not rocket science - eat less and exercise more. It does cost more to eat healthily if you shop at the big supermarkets. Get on a bus and get down to the markets - fresh fruit and veg at half the cost.

And as far as the NHS goes and paying for any treatment I may need due to being overweight.... hardly fair really. Has anyone asked George Best to pay for his liver, or do joy riders have to pay for treatment when they've crashed a car, what about pregnancy should that be charged for at the point of use?

i've managed to persuade my other half to shop at castle market and its slashed our food bills. fresh fruit, veg, meat and fish that are really cheap and you can actually choose what you want test its freshness and then decide.

supermarkets suck for fresh produce and if the market disappears it will be a desparate shame

Fruit and veg are cheap if you buy the ones that are full of toxic chemicals.

Originally posted by Hal9001
If this is so, perhaps smokers and drug takers should have to do the same?
Let's not forget drinkers who cost the NHS £14B ayear and policing about £7B.

We have evolved to crave fatty, sweet food over millions of years as this energy boosting grub was vital to our survival. You can't just blame "fatties" when there are temptations all around, when nutritious balanced school dinners were scrapped to allow kids the "choice" of chips and burgers everyday, when MacDonalds gear their advertising to kids, when there's food oulets all around.
It's not being a nanny state to control advertising, tax junk food and impose rigorous labelling standards. We need help to control our natural,evolutionay and biologial desires.
The problem relating to greed is more that of the food manufacturing industry (BSE, a tree-less Brazil, rotten chicken in supermarkets etc etc) rather than that of the hapless individual stuffing his 5th doughnut. Yes, some people find it difficult to use restraint and it's also difficult to have sympathy in certain individual cases but there's evidence that this thread is focusing on the wrong target for criticism

hardly the wrong target.
No one is forced to eat too much and to eat unhealthy food. People certainly don't go to McDonalds because it's such good value.
You can blame them for not having the force of will to stop stuffing that 5th donut into their mouth everyday.

Nicholarse,

I listened as always to your show last night. The word fatties offensive?? Do me a favour. It's just the PC brigade sounding off along with fat people. Apart from approx 2% (the girl last night who had Cancer at 13, the rest are just lazy lard arses.

Yes walking around Sheffield does seem to show that we have more than the national average for fat people, but I wager no more than any other UK City.

Fresh fruit and Veg will ALWAYS COST less than McDonalds or Fish and Chips for 5.

By the way, I used to be 16stone 4lb from eating crap. I am now 12stone 6lb. I'm 6 feet and it took a year. No matter what anyone tells you about getting in the Gym. Diet, Diet, Diet. 70% diet, 30% exercise.

Originally posted by Cyclone
hardly the wrong target.
No one is forced to eat too much and to eat unhealthy food.
But to an extent they are ......as a result of evolutionary determinism. Government has to intervene and level the playing field (if it's not been sold to build houses on!)

Originally posted by garrence
Fruit and veg are cheap if you buy the ones that are full of toxic chemicals.
jesus you're hard to please! i'm going to burger king!

Originally posted by RPG


There are far worse problems to worry about that fat people.

Not according to the NHS and the WHO - are they predicting an obesity timebomb or something?

but then the goverment is telling people to drink more milk and dairy products are a good source of calcium which is very deceptive as allthough they are a source of calcium, there not a good one. Milk and cheese is full of fat and cholesterol and a survey in 1996 found out 75 percent of the world’s population is lactose intolerant. Dairy products are linked to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and certain cancers, including prostate cancer and breast cancer; and new resurch suggests they may even cause osteoporosis.

Originally posted by Dug
Not according to the NHS and the WHO - are they predicting an obesity timebomb or something?

IIRC, the 'figures' that have been bandied about were incorrect in yet another government "blunder" and its less than half of what they originally stated.

Either way, its just yet another thing for people to complain about it really.

When I was at school there were perhaps one or two kids in the whole school who were overweight. Today there seems to be a lot more fat children around.

Definitely too many fatties around these days. I say that as a reformed fatty. I used to be one of those lard arses that would eat fish and chips three times a week, bacon sarnies everyday and lager everynight. Fied eggs with poads of cheese on top was my favourite. I rarely got off the sofa except to go to the toilet. At the start of last year, I was 22 stone. Yes - 22 STONE. I looked terrible, felt lethargic and hadn't seen my ***** since 1998. I had to take a very long look at myself and didn't like what I saw.

Then, a very good friend of mine introduced to a company called Hebalife....

Now where did I leave that URL.....

xxxxxxxxxx

Originally posted by Abdul
Burgers, frozen chips, frozen meat products, fizzy drinks, biscuits...



Sonofabitchfield are aware that many of the shoppers in Firth Park and Shiregreen do not have access to a car, therefore cannot shop anywhere else because of the inconvenience.

So Sonofabitchfield can charge as much as they like, and the unfortunates can either shop there or starve.

Nah, that's just laziness. They could get a bus, for the money they would save the £1 fare is nothing. They are just too lazy to go and then complain that they can't afford healthy food.

I don't have a car, but I seem to manage to go to supermarkets that I want to, and buy healthy food at low cost.

Last edited by max on 30-04-2004 at 12:42 PM

Since when was the word ***** offensive?

Originally posted by Ned Ludd
But to an extent they are ......as a result of evolutionary determinism. Government has to intervene and level the playing field (if it's not been sold to build houses on!)

no, people need to take responsability for their own health and stop trying to pass the buck.

Originally posted by Foxxx
Nah, that's just laziness. They could get a bus, for the money they would save the £1 fare is nothing. They are just too lazy to go and then complain that they can't afford healthy food.

I don't have a car, but I seem to manage to go to supermarkets that I want to, and buy healthy food at low cost.

Yeah, but you try going on a bus and shopping with 15 screaming kids in tow ;)

I suppose it really is a culture thing though. If they really wanted to do it, then I am sure they would...

If they stopped breeding then they could afford a bus and some veg!!!
comes back to my earlier point!

Originally posted by neeeeeeeeeek
If they stopped breeding then they could afford a bus and some veg!!!
comes back to my earlier point!

Looks to me like somebody got out of the wrong side of bed this morning ;)

Why should they be allowed to use buses? I refer to my earlier post....

Originally posted by Jim
Why should they be allowed to use buses? I refer to my earlier post....

The whole point of public transport is that it is there for the public to use. I am less offended by an overweight person taking up two seats on a bus than I am by a teenager who won't give up his/her seat for an OAP, or having to sit next to someone who smells!

You can't ban fat people from the buses anymore than you can ban smelly people, young people, old people, screaming kids etc

Agreed. but it would be nice though....:rolleyes:

Well - I'm what you would call overweight, & I have to say you guys have made me feel fantastic about me - the fact that I am a 'fattie' a 'bloater' and should have to pay my own NHS bills.
It's my fault I'm fat because I'm a lazy Lard arse.
I appreciate it was not an attack on ME but thats what anyone over 8 stone will feel.

Cheers.

ill second that lindsey. i exercise, and eat very healthily and due to my illness put weight on very easily, and cannot exercise half as much as most of you lot. some of you have met me and some might think im a "fattie" or a "lardarse" and some may not but your certainly making me feel like i am.

Originally posted by Hal9001
If this is so, perhaps smokers and drug takers should have to do the same?


I don’t think so….i’ve probably contibuted more towards hospital funding by paying £4.30 cigarette tax than what you would have payed in tax off your wages in two lifetimes so I think I’m entitled to NHS treatment.

so in effect i'm actually paying for my NHS treatment before i actually need it!

Hadn't thought of that. I'm pushing 16 stone so that must make me double lardy...

No offence meant. Merely respopnding to the start of the thread :thumbsup:

i agree, not everyone is fat through choice. genetics play a huge part and thats the way some people look. myself included.

why do thin people feel the need to make everyone 7.5stone? you're a bunch of body nazis and its not on. i don't encourage joggers to give up and put a few pounds on why does everyone feel the need to prejudice against fat people?

perfect example this week would be michelle mcmanus on the beach in the carribean, she was minding her own business doing her holiday thing and shes subject to a character assassination because shes fat. unbelievable! if she were black would she be encouraged to become more white? no but because she doesn't fit peoples little narrow minded view shes the devil incarnate.

you people should be ashamed of yourselves...


...of course you won't be because you're all perfect with no faults whatsoever


i'm off to mcdonalds see you in a bit...

Originally posted by discodown


perfect example this week would be michelle mcmanus on the beach in the carribean you people should be ashamed of yourselves...



So that's why Greenpeace were out there, mistaken identity again! (sorry couldn't resist)

My in laws are on the large side, I say that because from what I have seen they have battled hard over the years to try and get rid.
Until recently the battle has been a yo yo - fat thin fat thin and I feared for my step-daughter inheriting the same problems. However a dog has saved their lives. One of them has bought a dog and now goes walking ALOT. And since then their diet has worked a treat and they have gone down FOUR sizes in clothes and inspired my step daughter to get of fher lard arse and do something other than watch telly.

I cannot say I am stick thin myself but I am proud to say I am 35lbs lighter than I was this time last year without cutting out the foods I love and simply doing something as opposed to nothing. Hopefully I will be back to the pre-mum state but I am working on that piece of magik now ;)

Moon

Originally posted by PuressenceUK
So that's why Greenpeace were out there, mistaken identity again! (sorry couldn't resist)


You see..... comments like that just don't help at all honey - not funny - not clever - just bloody ignorant.

It's being politically correct that means you don't have a sense of humour.

a sense of humour is relative.

i see you are based in hillsborough, you probably like it and if i said that the pigeons fly upside down over hillsborough because theres nowt worth ****ting on then you might not find that funny.

even though all you see is words on a screen its worth remembering that there are people who put those words there and they have feelings. a little tact costs nothing

Originally posted by Lindseyw
You see..... comments like that just don't help at all honey - not funny - not clever - just bloody ignorant.

I agree Lindsey - but Michelle McManus, like Lisa Riley, does absolutely no favours for larger women! Constantly harping on about how her size will not detract from her music is kind of counterproductive. I knew instantly who you were on about - the big woman who won pop idol - but couldn't tell you what she sang!

Its a sad fact that being overweight is detrimental to your health, career prospects, social life and love life so perhaps we could do with some gentle persuassion to shape up and loose weight - but less of the persecution!

no. why should we?

i don't want to look like a posterboy for a rumanian orphanage. i'm happy with the way i look and i won't be bullied to conform.

enough with the healthy eating and losing weight and exercise. didn't do marc vivien foe any good did it? didn't help jim fixx or robert atkins or the chairman of mcdonalds who was a born again health fanatic. i won't be told how to look. if you don't like it. tough

im a bit overweight as most ppl are, even if its a matter of a few pounds, and as for the

Its a sad fact that being overweight is detrimental to your health, career prospects, social life and love life so perhaps we could do with some gentle persuassion to shape up and loose weight - but less of the persecution!

i have brilliant career prospects, an amazing social life and an absolutely fantastic love life, infact im a very happy person :) so basically bulls*it really.

Well I'm about 15 stone last time I checked. OK, I'm overweight but it doesn't really bother me too much.

You may not believe this, but when I was at school I was the weedy one in the class. I was always fairly short, not particularly strong and reasonably skinny. When I left school I put a hell of a lot of weight on virtually overnight. I didn't even realise it until my mum said to me one day, "you're getting fat". And I've never been able to lose it since.

If I put some effort in I could probably lose it, or at least turn it into muscle. I don't really feel like I've got any reason to at the moment though.

if you feel happy being overweight, potentially shortening your life span, increasing the chance of diabetes and a host of other weight related illnesses, then carry right on.

It's certainly not something to be proud off though.

Next we'll have people being proud of being stupid, and saying they won't conform to societies view that being smart is better.

well said discodown

Originally posted by Cyclone
It's certainly not something to be proud off though.
Did anyone say it was?

I never said I was happy being overweight either, I said it doesn't bother me too much.

Originally posted by Cyclone
Next we'll have people being proud of being stupid, and saying they won't conform to societies view that being smart is better.

Ermmm we have! Society in general is definately anti-intelectual and anti IQ. Think of these two roles - be one of the lads, have fun and be popular or be a sad obsessive geek - not a hugely positive image IQ image!

Originally posted by discodown
i see you are based in hillsborough, you probably like it and if i said that the pigeons fly upside down over hillsborough because theres nowt worth ****ting on then you might not find that funny.

:lol: That's a good one. I'm quite strange in that I eat bad food, do no exercise other than walking and working yet i'm only about 10-11 stone and 32" waist.

I'll be dead next year though :D

I am definitely no sylph.

I'm now 42 and realise that I need to do something or I'm stuck with my tummy. However, the approach I've taken is to moderate my eating and do more excercise - I don't drink and don't eat too many fatty foods anyway, and I'm finding that the weight is coming off me.

The thing that really motivated me was when my GP determined that my BP was elevated - primarily due to weight issues. As I don't fancy literally bursting a blood vessel, that was the motivation I needed.

There are numerous health conditions that can cause overweightness but for many people the bottom line is still excercise and diet. If you eat lard, it will stick on you somewhere. I hold myself responsibile for my weight, and indirectly for my BP. My GP will support me with meds until I get the BP under control, but that's MY responsibility and my target is to get off the meds I'm on as quickly as possible. I also have a back problem - again, minor at the moment but carrying my belly isn't helping!

I walk whenever possible, use stairs rather than lifts and escalators, try and restrict the takeaways and fried foods, and do some excercise for my back. However, I've avoided the gym because, to put it bluntly, I'm not motivated enough to spend 5 hours a week with folks who look like physical perfection. I believe human beings are designed to get excercise from our lifestyles, and so prefer to modify my lifestyle to suit via doing more and eating less.

Joe

Originally posted by Cyclone
if you feel happy being overweight, potentially shortening your life span, increasing the chance of diabetes and a host of other weight related illnesses, then carry right on.

It's certainly not something to be proud off though.

Next we'll have people being proud of being stupid, and saying they won't conform to societies view that being smart is better.

never said i was proud of it. besides i'm not concerned about shortening my life span, its the years at the end you lose and they suck anyway!

the being thick thing is an entirely different argument and another one to which i agree with the person who said it already happens. i read quite a lot and was happily having lunch the other day at work when a couple of peeps who i know sat with me and one asked "why are you reading?" needless to say i was speechless!

JoeP - I can understand how you feel about the gym, but trust me, i've never seen a gym filled with models of physical perfection. Especially not if i'm there.
Gyms are filled with all sorts of people, and they're all hot and sweaty (unless they are just posing), so they don't have time to be looking at anyone else, they need to concentrate.
And I certainly don't go 5 times a week. Once or twice is enough for me, and sometimes less. I try to swim twice a week though as that's good all round exercise and I do 5 hours of jitsu over a week, which is good exercise too.

Originally posted by Cyclone
JoeP - I can understand how you feel about the gym, but trust me, i've never seen a gym filled with models of physical perfection. Especially not if i'm there.
Gyms are filled with all sorts of people, and they're all hot and sweaty (unless they are just posing), so they don't have time to be looking at anyone else, they need to concentrate.
And I certainly don't go 5 times a week. Once or twice is enough for me, and sometimes less. I try to swim twice a week though as that's good all round exercise and I do 5 hours of jitsu over a week, which is good exercise too.

i eat sandwiches and watch tv that seems to work a treat for me!

in what way does it 'work' for you?

it 'works' for me because it means i don't have to go to the gym or do martial arts.

I cant believe how shallow all these anti-big people are!!
Some people can eat and eat and eat and not gain any weight but then theres some people like myself that cant eat andything without lapping on weight! Im 5 ft 1 and size 14 (which is big for my height) however I eat sensiblly, I walk all the time and work full time. So how can you assume people who are big arnt healthy. The phrase not fat, big boned comes to mind here! Also id love to got to the gym 3 times a week and join weight watchers but i, like many others cant afford it!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by fuzbuz
I cant believe how shallow all these anti-big people are!!
Some people can eat and eat and eat and not gain any weight but then theres some people like myself that cant eat andything without lapping on weight! Im 5 ft 1 and size 14 (which is big for my height) however I eat sensiblly, I walk all the time and work full time. So how can you assume people who are big arnt healthy. The phrase not fat, big boned comes to mind here! Also id love to got to the gym 3 times a week and join weight watchers but i, like many others cant afford it!!!!!!!!!!
thats the spirit! the sheer prejudice against larger people is amazing, sod them with their healthy eating and personal trainers and exercise regime's. you jog i'll sit in this beer garden and watch.

besides healthy eating and exercise and abstinence don't make you live longer, it just feels like they do!

don't talk rubbish, it does make you live longer.

i'm not prejudiced, i just don't understand why someone would want to be overweight.

I think i only actually joined in this thread to say that it wasn't the for the government to take any action, seriously overweight people (with no underlying health problem) should take responsability for themselves.

I've just checked, my original point was that people who are fat because they do little/no exercise and eat unhealthy food have only themselves to blame.
If they are happy that way and do not blame anyone, then i can't understand or relate to these people as that sounds pretty stupid to me.

My comments were not aimed at people who are a few pounds overweight, but at clinically obese or near that level kind of people.

Originally posted by Cyclone
I've just checked, my original point was that people who are fat because they do little/no exercise and eat unhealthy food have only themselves to blame.
If they are happy that way and do not blame anyone, then i can't understand or relate to these people as that sounds pretty stupid to me.

you can't understand anybody who is happy with the way they look?

why should it make a difference? if someone is happy with the way they look why do you feel that you can't understand that?

people come in all sizes, colours and shapes so long as they are a good person and not hurting anyone why should they conform to what society deems acceptable?

society knows nothing anyway, i presume you are fit and healthy and a perfect 10? good for you, you're dedication is admirable. now go to tonga and your size will work against you, the natives will assume you are poor and weak. go to japan where the sumo are revered as living gods. go to some arabic countries where size is regarded as an indication of wealth.

society like the law is an ass.

Originally posted by Cyclone
don't talk rubbish, it does make you live longer.

no it doesn't. you're going to die when you're going to die theres nothing you can do about it.

I for one would rather spend my life having a good time in a pub , resturant, ect with my mates and die early knowing iv enjoyed my life than beingh hot sweaty and bored in a gym or starving to death 24/7 and live a little longer and be bored!!!!!!

Top statement!!!! Of course you can do stuff about it!! if you eat crap, smoke, drink to much and are very over weight then you are very likely to die sooner than if you didn't smoke, ate good food and were not over weight!

So Disco, you honestly believe that eating 20 McDonalds burgers a week, not doing any exercise and smoking 40 fags a day has no effect on your life expectancy?

Ignorance is bliss as they say!

I love this defence

I for one would rather spend my life having a good time in a pub , resturant, ect with my mates and die early knowing iv enjoyed my life than beingh hot sweaty and bored in a gym or starving to death 24/7 and live a little longer and be bored!!!!!!

Ha Ha

Tops!!!!

Not everyone who is not overweight is sad, miserable, lonely and bored!!! Not all people have to spend time in a gym sweating and hating every second of it just to try and stay slim..
You seem to imply that if your thin you must leave a sad and pointless existence based around eating lettuce, exercising and counting calories whilst avoiding all social activity in case you gain a pound in weight!!

Nice!!!

Originally posted by neeeeeeeeeek
So Disco, you honestly believe that eating 20 McDonalds burgers a week, not doing any exercise and smoking 40 fags a day has no effect on your life expectancy?

Ignorance is bliss as they say!
i never said that. what you say is true but very few people do that i certainly don't. but on the other hand i don't believe not smoking extends your life. how many people smoke 20 a day from being 11 and live to 90? how old are you're parents/grandparents? do they go to the gym 3 times a week? no of course they don't. lifes to short to deny yourself the things you want.

i repeat i don't care if my life expectancy is shortened its the last years i lose the sitting in a wheelchair, ignored by everyone, change your colostomy bag 3 times a day, adult nappy, boring the arse of anybody stupid enough to listen to you, porridge for lunch, whats that funny smell, incontinence, dribbling, senile years! i don't want them you can have them

Originally posted by neeeeeeeeeek
I love this defence



Ha Ha

Tops!!!!

Not everyone who is not overweight is sad, miserable, lonely and bored!!! Not all people have to spend time in a gym sweating and hating every second of it just to try and stay slim..
You seem to imply that if your thin you must leave a sad and pointless existence based around eating lettuce, exercising and counting calories whilst avoiding all social activity in case you gain a pound in weight!!

Nice!!!
similarly not everyone who is overweight cries themself to sleep wishing they were a size 10. thin people suck!

Sorry disco, perhaps I did not understand.

no it doesn't. you're going to die when you're going to die theres nothing you can do about it.

My fault, I thought you plainly said that you can't do anything about it.. Oh well.

Thin people Suck ??? where did that come from???

Ah, sorry, your trying to say that if fat people sucked instead of swallowing so much then they would not be fat, your not insulting all thin people are you???

Statistic for you. (not a very good one)

More people try to loose excess weight that put it on!

Originally posted by neeeeeeeeeek
Sorry disco, perhaps I did not understand.



My fault, I thought you plainly said that you can't do anything about it.. Oh well.
i'm obviously being thick, my fault not yours but could you explain yourself a bit better because i feel i'm missing your point

At the end of the day im a big las but im fit and healthy and most important of all happy so balls to all you self obsessed skinny peeps!!

i can understand people who are happy with the way they look.
I can't understand someone who is dangerously overweight and is that way because of choice and is happy with it. There is something wrong in their head, it's not healthy, it can't be comfortable, you can barely do anything.

society doesn't tell me what overweight is, i'm not talking about anorexic models here. I'm talking about what a GP would tell you. They aren't being pressured by the companies selling the get thin quick pills, they tell you that people have an optimum weight range because it's true. They tell you that your weight is damaging your health and that you will die of a coronary before you are 50 without ever seeing your grandchildren because it's true.

People die when they die. That means you either believe in fate, or... not sure what.... There is no pre-ordaned length of our life. If you live an unhealthy lifestyle you will die younger than you otherwise would have done. Likewise if you practice dodging cars on the M1 your life expectancy is reduced (unless it's rush hour). Single examples of people who do not conform are meaningless, you have to look at a group to see the pattern.

I am not a size 10, firstly because i'm a bloke. I'm nearly 6 foot tall, and slightly over the weigh i'd like to be. I exercise for several reasons, it feels good at the time. It also makes me happy that i am fit, and I can look in the mirror and not be ashamed of what I see. I don't eat celery and lettuce all the time, i have bacon sarnies, i might even in desperation have a mcDonalds, i certainly eat out. In fact the main reason i'm slightly over my target weight is because i work away often and have no choice but to eat out.
You don't have to deny all the pleasures to stay healthy, you have to summon up a tiny bit of willpower and make things balance.

i repeat i don't care if my life expectancy is shortened its the last years i lose the sitting in a wheelchair, ignored by everyone, change your colostomy bag 3 times a day, adult nappy, boring the arse of anybody stupid enough to listen to you, porridge for lunch, whats that funny smell, incontinence, dribbling, senile years! i don't want them you can have them

I don't want to burst your bubble & I'm certainly not preaching ( I'm not in a position to ) but I wouldn't be so sure you're going the right way to avoid that colostomy bag ;)

Dr Lesley Walker of the Cancer Research Campaign also pointed to the strengthening evidence that red meat, obesity and lack of exercise are risk factors for bowel cancer.

There seems to have been a lot of hostility and contempt directed at the overweight in parts of this thread.
The fact is that we are pre-programmed to like eating "crappy food" and as individuals we have a variance in the degree of craving for this stuff. On top of that ,some unfortunate individuals may have additional psychological problems.
We are surrounded by limitless supplies of this stuff, a position far removed that of our ancestors for whom access to a sweet treat of honey was very rare event. Most of their waking time had to be devoted to hunting and food gathering, starvation was an ever present threat. Food high in calories was an imperitive.
This glut of food and easy access is a completely new and unnaturural phenomenon in human history and evolution compounded by relentless advertising.
Government must act:
restrict advertising (on food and drink)
restrict levels of sugar/salt/fat in manufactured foods
ban the selling of school playing fields and make sport compulsory.

My two pennorth for what it's worth.

I am big, huge maybe by a lot of people's standards. 5'3" and size 24. No doubt people look at me in disgust when I walk down the street. But, I am healthy, I am rarely ill. I don't smoke or drink and I walk everywhere as I don't drive. I can get up the considerably steep hill to school quicker than my slimmer friends who stop half way up puffing for breath. I run around with my kids and do all the stuff a thinner person could do with no problems. I have never been thin, ever. I am what I am and am happy with it. It doesn't affect my health nor my ability to do things.

My best mate died last year. She didn't smoke, drank occasionally, was fit healthy and active. She ate a sensible diet and took various suppliments etc and watched her weight. Yet at 48 she died.

You go when your time's up!

I for one enjoy my life and ain't gonna lose sleep over the fact that I may not conform to what society see's as acceptable. There are places I can go where my size is not an issue, where larger people are seen as people, not just as a freak. I am what I am and my life is happy and fulfilled enough not to have to worry about other peoples attitudes.

Here endeth the lesson!!

One example of someone dying is meaningless. You have to look at the pattern.

Is your size a medical condition, or do you just eat a lot (no offence intended). It sounds like you already do a reasonable amount of exercise, so without a fairly large calorie intake you should loose weight.

Ned - we have also developed a forebrain, it allows us to override the impulse to eat everything we can because tomorrow there might be a famine. Government should not and will not intervene to the extent that you suggest (although sport is compulsory for school children). Why do you not want people to take responsability for themselves, you'd rather pass the buck up to the government and have them force everyone to conform.

there arew huge people in sheffield now a day! i cant believe how many fat people there actually is! it a real same that theyu cant be self respect-ful and loose some weight! we will become another america if we are not careful!

lose weight u fatties! lol

I agree that obese people are a strain on the NHS and these people should lose weight if they are told so by they're GP.
I don't agree however that large people should be banned from public transport or ridiculed just because of their size.

I mean, many a time I have walked downtown and seen or heard people commenting on the larger people and even on some occasions I have heard abuse being hurled at them.

This kind of behaviour isn't helping because when someone is upset then quite often they will turn to food for comfort so its just making things worse in my eyes.

Also all you guys who feel the need to give them a lecture on how to lose some weight just bite your tongue. Don't you think that treating people like this just because of appearences is kinda making large people feel like they are second class citizens?

I know I would feel that way if I were big.

Originally posted by Cyclone

Ned - we have also developed a forebrain, it allows us to override the impulse to eat everything we can because tomorrow there might be a famine. Government should not and will not intervene to the extent that you suggest (although sport is compulsory for school children). Why do you not want people to take responsability for themselves, you'd rather pass the buck up to the government and have them force everyone to conform.
Yes what i meant to say is that the human being is an extemely complicated organism..look at addictions to gambling, drink, drugs and food. Pepsi and Coke should not be allowed to install drinks machines in schools, Macdonalds shouldn't be allowed to sponsor a computer lab if it means having to eat there and Cadbury's shouldn't sponsor sports equipment in schools on the basis of schoolkids collecting 1000's of vouchers to buy a tennis ball.
The food industry needs regulating: BSE, rotten poultry, antibiotics, growth hormones and manufactured stuff full of fat sugar and God knows what sort of additives. All manufactured food should be sold with a Hazard Data Sheet as if it was a chemical 9in many cases that's all it is! Pckets should state the calorie content in bold writing for the entire contents not just/100gms.
I needed a quick fix last night on the way home (no time for lunch) so I looked at a packet of Walkers crisps. A second glance showed the label, Big Eat and 50% Extra...people love a bargain, so combine that with a desire for junk and you have a big problem.
It's a perfect example of the behaviour of manufacturers today. They should be brought under control

Originally posted by Sammy
lose weight u fatties! lol

How constructive....... I assume you are perfect then huh ? Have you any idea how nasty that is ?

Originally posted by Sammy
lose weight u fatties! lol
post a pic of yourself so we can gaze at your physical perfection, it will be something to aim for

lose weight u fatties! lol

A lot of thought went into that one, didn't it?

It will most probably have been mentioned that some people are over weight due to a medical reason, or perhaps due to a disability, they are in a wheelchair, or on crutches, making exercise harder... You can't condemn everyone who isn't model shaped... The world just doesn't work like that.

Also, have you tried losing weight? It's so easy to say "Oh lose weight you fatties" but actually give it a go and you'll eat your words because it isn't easy!!!

I really don't think you've put any thought into your comments whatsoever... Take it back and think about it!

There's a problem with overweight people in the UK costing us 10billion. Locally there seems to be more and more people who are overweight.

I've been told now that people in Sheffield find the word "fattie" offensive.

What do you think?
yeah very offensive have an oppinon about nothing then we would have no forum . large ,fat ,big , buxom who cares unless yor a fattie of course;)

I've been told now that people in Sheffield find the word "fattie" offensive.

What do you think?
Only in the same way that Radio dj's are all slack jawed knobheads

In my opinion, its simple, unless you have a medical condition, you eat less and do more exercise - you become slimmer and more healthy, you eat more food, you do the oposite. I had a slight rant about this in my general studies exam :rolleyes: sorry.

People who are fat in my opinion are that way out of choice and lack of self control, you choose to be fat or you choose to be slim, unless you have a medical condition.

For about 2 years, due to medical problems I've not been able to eat that great. I'm pretty skinny, I've even been skinnier than some of my girlfriends and it wasnt that nice and the comments some people give, almost as bad as if I was fat.

And this thread has been resurrected from almost two years ago! :suspect:

And this thread has been resurrected from almost two years ago! :suspect:

Wasnt me :suspect:

I am over 17 stones in weight and I am proud of it I got my weight from all the heavy drinking I use to do, as for going to the gym too much like hard work for me I do enough hard work with out wasting my money on something that doesnt work, all them people who do go to the gym have to go for a very long time to see any results. I am happy with my very round figure thank you very much plus my other problem with my weight is the amount of tablets I have to take my time will come to lose all my weight and that will be when I am in my coffin and going into the crem. whats up with you people dont you like to see fat people walking around they have got as much right as the next person if they want to be fat then so be it. if they want to be slim then so be it every person is different we are all not the same some people are fat and some people are slim thats how things are in this life. if anybody ever called me a fat b**tard to my face they might not like the idea of them walking around with a broken nose because thats is what I would do so back off from us heavy people you stay slim we will stay fat ok.

A lot of thought went into that one, didn't it?

It will most probably have been mentioned that some people are over weight due to a medical reason, or perhaps due to a disability, they are in a wheelchair, or on crutches, making exercise harder... You can't condemn everyone who isn't model shaped... The world just doesn't work like that.

Also, have you tried losing weight? It's so easy to say "Oh lose weight you fatties" but actually give it a go and you'll eat your words because it isn't easy!!!

I really don't think you've put any thought into your comments whatsoever... Take it back and think about it!

Thanks caprice. x

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if the persons weight has been proved to be the cause of a health problem, then they should have to pay for the treatment not the NHS.

this could spiral to silly levels and end up with an american system of those who can afford it will get the treatment and sod the rest.

-should smokers pay for their treatment
-should HIV sufferers fund the cocktail themselves
-should people who work in risky env or take part in dangerous activities receive free emergency care and aftercare.

the list could go on. every illness has a cause and many are environmental in some way or another. maybe the nhs isn't quite as fab as it once was and there is a selfish minority who are piling a lot of stress on the system (and yes this does include the obese - but there are obese people out there who refuse to help themselves by trying to lose weight) but it would be a shame to lose the nhs. if sections of society got selected to pay for medical care, then it would spiral to the point where we would all have to pay regardless.

Should people who are dying have to fund their own death? or have they already done that out of NI contributions?

Should people who are dying have to fund their own death? or have they already done that out of NI contributions?

Maybe they should get a refund as they wont be costing them in the future :wink: :D

should adrenaline junkies who ski, snowboard or jump out of planes have to pay for treatment. as a recreational activity they all have limited "fitness" attributes so why not charge them extra.
then again why not charge sunday footballers extra - they train limited, once a week usually, they play sunday a.m, go to the pub all pm & think they're superman.

Am I the only one who's slightly sceptical of the current obesity panic?

Society is obsessed with "the weight game". Thin is good, fat is bad. Being thin is the single most important thing in many people's lives, especially women. It's so hardwired into people that they can't see this is happening.

Except for a few strong-minded non-shallow people who have the will and self-confidence not to play. People who realise that there are far more important things in life than your waist size, and who aren't so superficial as to believe that losing a few pounds is the hallowed goal they should aspire to. People like these are a threat to the weight game, because they offer a clear example that participation is not mandatory. This is why any celebrity who puts on a few pounds has to be vilified by the tabloids, fashion mags and gossip mags, to ensure that the weight game survives. These media outlets make lots of money from the continued existence of the weight game.

The cynic in me suspects that the obesity issue has been exaggerated in order to force/shame non-participants of the weight game into playing. :suspect:

Junk food IMO is a drug, I gave up drinking and drugs and smoking and i tell you now the most hardest of all addictions to kick was the junk food, I had to give all these up for medical reasons, and even tho i dont look the weight iam i doin it for me and not becuase someone has told me to loose weight but because i like to be a little slimmer. But if a person want to be big them let them be, to be honest insted of goin on at people then why if you all so botherd about how a person looks do something about it yourselfs, like try to get the addative banned that is in the food or the food itself that is makeing people addictive to it and over weight. most of you did the same with smoking and that got banned in public so why not go do the same if it bothers you so much get the food banned in public places.

Being slim does not make you live forever we all have to die, some people take other chance in life that could kill, but like over eating has been in the papers and tv telling us it can kill you, but still this has not stop that person eating less or not stop eating junk food and goin to the gym to be slim then why should you care if that person does not. Too many people these days are saying What How When Why we should live our lives, this is our own lifes not yours or anyone els. Let people live how they want too, and when its time for that person to give junk food up and start to slim then they will do it in there own time and not get when someone els tells them too.

Am I the only one who's slightly sceptical of the current obesity panic?

Society is obsessed with "the weight game". Thin is good, fat is bad. Being thin is the single most important thing in many people's lives, especially women. It's so hardwired into people that they can't see this is happening.

Except for a few strong-minded non-shallow people who have the will and self-confidence not to play. People who realise that there are far more important things in life than your waist size, and who aren't so superficial as to believe that losing a few pounds is the hallowed goal they should aspire to. People like these are a threat to the weight game, because they offer a clear example that participation is not mandatory. This is why any celebrity who puts on a few pounds has to be vilified by the tabloids, fashion mags and gossip mags, to ensure that the weight game survives. These media outlets make lots of money from the continued existence of the weight game.

The cynic in me suspects that the obesity issue has been exaggerated in order to force/shame non-participants of the weight game into playing. :suspect:

Excellent post Daley. I couldn't agree more. I find it totally obscene that the media plasters pictures of the attention seeking fashion icon, Victoria Beckham, all over their publications, on what appears to be a daily basis. Annorexia is not de rigueur, never has been and never will be. Their apparent acceptance of her emaciated frame and self appointed role model status is an insult to the thousands of sufferers out there and sends the wrong message to the young and impressionable.

When I was at junior school I was rather thin. when I went to comp I piled the pounds on, allways been broad shouldered, big arms for my age, & no matter what i did, the wieght wouldn't shift. All through my teens I was just that bit heavier than i wanted to be.At 39 my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer, so I've had @ 8 months off work looking after her & 2 girls, up went my wieght to 15 stone 4lbs, & at 5'7" thats heavy!!
I goined the gym in dec this year & I've lost 20lbs since. feel great, but it's been hard work at the gym & lots of healthy foods instead of the "carryout" lunches that are so easy to go & buy. It's so easy to say "well I eat allsorts of rubbish & never put a pound on" lucky you! Unfortunatly we are all different, but no one should be judged by how they look.
People that are "larger than average" should still be treated on the nhs, same as smokers, drinkers, drug users, adrenaline junkies, people that get knocked over when not looking, old people, motorcyclist,,,,,, you get my drift!!

Well - I'm what you would call overweight, & I have to say you guys have made me feel fantastic about me - the fact that I am a 'fattie' a 'bloater' and should have to pay my own NHS bills.
It's my fault I'm fat because I'm a lazy Lard arse.
I appreciate it was not an attack on ME but thats what anyone over 8 stone will feel.

Cheers.

I agree with that. I am over weight, but not huge, just cuddly and curvy. I do not intend to slim because when I have been on diets in the past I have felt dreadfully unhealthy. I eat fresh fruit and veg every day. I dont exercise that much but two children and a house to keep clean and tidy take up all my time. I was thin when I was younger, but like many women, you get to 30 and the lbs creep on and you cant shift them. Then you get to 40 and more lbs arrive to join them! Women are genetically predisposed to store fat. As I have never smoked and only drink a little I havent ruined my health in other ways. I dont have high BP so I dont feel any more at risk than the average person.

Stop calling us fatties. I presume what you refer to are the people who are morbidly obese, not just people who are "well padded".

I do enough hard work with out wasting my money on something that doesnt work, all them people who do go to the gym have to go for a very long time to see any results.

If your happy the size you are thats fine but gyms do work and dont have to go for a long time to see the results. I was going on average 3 times a week for an hour to an hour and a half workout including about 45 mins on treadmill each time and saw a big difference within 3 weeks. in that time i dropped a dress size and felt much better for it having more energy and wasnt dieting or anything at same time. I felt better within the first week, even by time went the 3rd time i found it easier than the previous 2. Unfortunately then xmas came with chocolate followed by exams and several assignments one on top of the other so ive not had any time spare to get to gym and all the weight went back on. However, as i know it does work i will get back into it as soon as my current assignment is out of the way as im not happy at the size i am and all my favorite going-out clothes dont fit, and besides that ive paid for membership! Its not hard work its just about being aware of what works for your own body type - if i eat more than 1 meal per day then i put on weight so its sometimes hard to keep to this, but if you can stick to what works for you as an individual then it does work.

As i said if you're happy then thats great i'm pleased for you as there are a lot of us who arent happy with our size, but people who do want to do something about it arent goin to be inspired to do so by people saying it doesnt work.

hazel xx

Well said Hazel!

eat well, excercise more. stick at it!

fwiw... my opinion is that folk should be allowed to be comfortable in the skin they are in, without body facists saying to them "oooh you are too dark skinned, you are too fat at size 10, you, dear are too blonde, and you are too dark, your hair isn't long enough. and yours is too short."

if you are slender, naturally, then fine, if you are curvier, naturally, then again, fine... be who YOU are, and love yourself.

don't be forced to conform to the "norms". you are you , and no-one else can be you...

that is more important than forcing yourself into an unnatural size and shape.

I am me, and I am happy being me. sod everyone else. it's mind over matter...

Those who mind about your looks/ size don't matter, and the ones who matter, well, they shouldn't mind....

PT

sometimes it's more a case of burgers over matter, or rather burgers converted into more and more matter.

I prefer to say rounded or well rounded ;)

fwiw... my opinion is that folk should be allowed to be comfortable in the skin they are in, without body facists saying to them "oooh you are too dark skinned, you are too fat at size 10, you, dear are too blonde, and you are too dark, your hair isn't long enough. and yours is too short."

if you are slender, naturally, then fine, if you are curvier, naturally, then again, fine... be who YOU are, and love yourself.

don't be forced to conform to the "norms". you are you , and no-one else can be you...

that is more important than forcing yourself into an unnatural size and shape.

I am me, and I am happy being me. sod everyone else. it's mind over matter...

Those who mind about your looks/ size don't matter, and the ones who matter, well, they shouldn't mind....

PT

Plain-talker for Prime Minister ! :D

Yes, I've been subjected to this kind of criticism all MY life too. Yes, from nasty aunties, to my own mother. 'why don't YOU'....'why don't YOU'.... Yet they are not perfect role models either. Just because they are thin, they are not the type to exercise. Well, my mother isn't thin, but that's a different story altogether.

To answer the OP. I think yes, calling anybody any names because of their weight is rude. Even the word 'fattie'. I'm surprised this needs to be asked.

There's a lot of reasons why people are overweight, and it is not always a case of, why don't they control it and lose weight ? What a lot of people don't highlight is the emotional turmoil one goes through. When you have been told or informed of every single diet there is, and you go and try every single method. It's quite dampening to the spirit to say the least. It's even frustrating. There is also the other factor of changing your lifestyle. I'm sure that not everybody can just uproot themselves and move town. Same with losing weight. If your shopping habit or budget is set. It's hard to find a way to buy fresh food, and to budget that. To think of menu options which are healthy. It's a lifetime skill, me thinks. It really is.

i made a conscious decision some years ago. every time i have sex i eat junk food, the good thing as that as i'm getting older i'm down to one junk meal a day.by the time i'm 70 it will be one a week, just watch the weight drop off me then.

No excuse for it, get some exercise done and stop stuffing your face.

IMO, if the persons weight has been proved to be the cause of a health problem, then they should have to pay for the treatment not the NHS.

Do you think the perma tan brigade who burn to a crisp every year in Costa Del Were-ever should get treatment for the possible skin cancer they may get as a result. They have been warned often enough of the risks yet still go for the David Dick(head)inson look every year.

Plain-talker for Prime Minister ! :D

Yes, I've been subjected to this kind of criticism all MY life too. Yes, from nasty aunties, to my own mother. 'why don't YOU'....'why don't YOU'.... Yet they are not perfect role models either. Just because they are thin, they are not the type to exercise. Well, my mother isn't thin, but that's a different story altogether.

To answer the OP. I think yes, calling anybody any names because of their weight is rude. Even the word 'fattie'. I'm surprised this needs to be asked.

There's a lot of reasons why people are overweight, and it is not always a case of, why don't they control it and lose weight ? What a lot of people don't highlight is the emotional turmoil one goes through. When you have been told or informed of every single diet there is, and you go and try every single method. It's quite dampening to the spirit to say the least. It's even frustrating. There is also the other factor of changing your lifestyle. I'm sure that not everybody can just uproot themselves and move town. Same with losing weight. If your shopping habit or budget is set. It's hard to find a way to buy fresh food, and to budget that. To think of menu options which are healthy. It's a lifetime skill, me thinks. It really is.



Thanks Bago! Nomination gratefuly accepted! :)

there are, definitely many reasons for being overweight.

Some people have mobility problems whidch make it difficult to exercise.

Some people "comfort eat" when faced with lifes stressors.

others, like a friend of mine, overeat to make themselves larger. and therefore "unattractive" because she was sexually abused as a child, and wants to keep people "distanced" from her.

others have metabolic problems such as thryroid problems which make them put weight on. (Diabetes can do this, too:- you go one of two ways with diabetes:_ you put weight on on insulin, or you become stick thin)

It's not just "lardarses" , who "stuff their faces 24/7" as is the common misconception

whatever the reason, the nay-sayers should get off the backs of the people who have weight problems, and "live and let live"

PT

I'm 13 stone at merely 5'3" in height, people tell me I'm overweight for my height, but I don't let it bother me... I go to the Gym, and I do Karate twice a week, I'd be there now if I wasn't suffering with a cold and snowed in anyway even if I could go.

I had to begin daily Thyroxine in 2001 after major surgery and gleefuly thought that the HUGE doses I take would burn up every calorie that came near.
Sadly not true. I've gained a horrible amount of weight in four years, especially in the last 12 months since they upped my dose again.
IMO, I'm neither stupid nor lazy, but it saddens me to know that is what people think when they look at me.

Do you think the perma tan brigade who burn to a crisp every year in Costa Del Were-ever should get treatment for the possible skin cancer they may get as a result. They have been warned often enough of the risks yet still go for the David Dick(head)inson look every year.
And all the Silly Sunday footballers who take up every A/E trolley every weekend with sprains n strains, wanting expensive X-rays...

Then all the thin beautiful people getting off their heads on drink n drugs...

:rolleyes:

I think that its only the fatties that are offended by it but if they know they are then they should do something about themselves instead of moaning about being called a fatty.

I think that its only the fatties that are offended by it but if they know they are then they should do something about themselves instead of moaning about being called a fatty.

No, custard, it's the body facists who want to butt the h*ll out of trying to run/rule other people's lives.

I don't know what your body shape is, but can infer from your comments that you are one of the ones who are either

a) blessed with a naturally slim shape,
or

b) spends their life with their head down the bog, throwing up what they've eaten...

As I said earlier in this thread, people should be allowed to be who they are, and not have to be some fuffing stepford wife/ hollywood-doll clone with a 32" bust, and a size 6/8.

My bone structure/ ribcage size is such that i'd never get to anything like about a 16, even if I never ate again. I have size nine feet, and have to take a men's glove, as I am so big-boned, and I am effed if I am going to starve myself into some pillocky looking paris hilton-alike.

it doesn't matter a bloody jot whether a person is a size 6, a size 16 or a 26.... just so long as they are happy in the skin they are in.

I will quote from the post I made, above.

Originally Posted by Plain Talker
fwiw... my opinion is that folk should be allowed to be comfortable in the skin they are in, without body facists saying to them "oooh you are too dark skinned, you are too fat at size 10, you, dear are too blonde, and you are too dark, your hair isn't long enough. and yours is too short."

if you are slender, naturally, then fine, if you are curvier, naturally, then again, fine... be who YOU are, and love yourself.

don't be forced to conform to the "norms". you are you , and no-one else can be you...

that is more important than forcing yourself into an unnatural size and shape.

I am me, and I am happy being me. sod everyone else. it's mind over matter...

Those who mind about your looks/ size don't matter, and the ones who matter, well, they shouldn't mind....

the thing about the "fashion industry" is that, this season, it might be short hair that's in, so you have your lovely locks shorn off, sheep-like to conform to that... then, as soon as you get used to the draught wafting round the back of your neck, the fashionistas then say "long luxuriant locks are in this coming season" or, the usual... "this season, it's the curvy look", next season it's the "emaciated, heroin chic look" that is what we have to conform to.

well "duck - fatttt!!!!" she says, spoonerism-ing left right and centre.... ;)

I Am me, I'm happy being me. I'm a big lass, but hey, i don't give a "four-ex"

people should allow others to just "be" instead of being body facists

be yourself, love yourself for who you are, love the skin you are in, and to h*ll with everyone else.

Find your own sense of style, and don't be a slave to fashion.

PT

I think that its only the fatties that are offended by it but if they know they are then they should do something about themselves instead of moaning about being called a fatty.


a bit more to add, I'm afraid

Cc, which bit of "some people can't exercise, and lose weight, because of disabilities or medical conditions" didn't you get?

PT

the word 'fat' is not offensive IMO.

the word 'fattie' is because of the derogotory context in which its used:

that person is fat.

that girl's a right fattie!

see what i mean??

I've been called a fat bar steward (not on here) in the past... :rant:

As someone who used to be quite overweight I would say that the biggest advantage is not you physical size its the fact that you feel more healthy when your weight is under control and you exersice and as a result your quality of life improves.

"He who trims himself to suit everyone will soon whittle himself away." - Raymond Hill

not all people classed as fat are unfit! :loopy:
i think fattie is as offensive as calling someone black, just becasue they might be or are doesn't mean you can call them that. :rant:

and yes im a lady whos is not skinny, but im happy and healthy and fit, and no i dont go to the gym, sometimes its not the food people eat that makes them the way they are, i for instance do not eat burgers, crisps, chips, cheese, chocolate, or take outs, fry-ups and other "junk foods".

Do we stop giving cancer treatment to people who smoke or sunbathe or take drugs??