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I want to buy a house this summer, three bed semi and have a budget of £150,000 ish, although that is max so any less would be better.
I have lived in Sheffield for a couple of years, renting, but have only really kept to areas I know. I have heard of some areas that people say are not nice to live (no offence for people who live there, but if I didn’t know anyone then maybe I wouldn’t feel comfortable living there, you know what I mean!) so no go areas are: Darnall, Manor, City Centre, Wincobank, Broomhill, Bolsover, Gleadless, Ecclesfield etc.
I don’t really mind where I live, am in Nether Edge now, but I don’t think I will be getting much for my money if I buy here! I like Dronfield, but not sure how it is as an area? Anyone know people who live there, or live there yourself? Also Killamarsh has been suggested, again, not sure what this is like, same with Aston. Seems to be more for the money further out and I don’t mind living a bit further out if it’s a nice area. Also had Penistone recommended too.
As some of you will know, I have applied to the South Yorkshire Police, and have been told by a few people that its best to live it bit further out when you’re in the job to save trouble etc.
Anyway, this seems to be a long winded thread, but I would appreciate maybe any other NO GO areas, and maybe some areas that are good and relatively cheap.
Thanks guys, this is maybe the most important help you will give me on my time in the forum! xx
evildrneil 16-04-2006, 11:12 Get the local Telegraph on a Friday which has the property guide in it to give you an idea of the areas you can afford. If 150K is your max then give the way house prices go in Sheffield you probably want to be looking in the 135ish K range. Aslo take a look on www.rightmove.co.uk and www.vebra.com to see whats around at the moment :)
evildrneil 16-04-2006, 11:14 Do mods work sundays?!
We do (no rest for the evil!) but if you want something doing then please report it - the chances of it being picked up if you just post on the thread are minimal!
Thanks evilddrneil! You are around sundays then! and quick too! I hope you are getting paid well!!! I will make a note of the telegraph, but just worried about the areas that im not sure of?! verbra.com is good, but as i say, i just dont know the areas. Plenty coming up in Rotherham and barnsley at the minute. Cheers x
Dronfield is classed as a good area, also good chance for capital growth. Transport services to Sheffield although regular, are fairly sparse. I ve lived in a couple of your no go ares, and tend to agree! At the mo, £150k will get you what you're after.
I have lived in Sheffield for a couple of years, renting, but have only really kept to areas I know. I have heard of some areas that people say are not nice to live (no offence for people who live there, but if I didn’t know anyone then maybe I wouldn’t feel comfortable living there, you know what I mean!) so no go areas are: Darnall, Manor, City Centre, Wincobank, Broomhill, Bolsover, Gleadless, Ecclesfield etc.
I don’t really mind where I live, am in Nether Edge now, but I don’t think I will be getting much for my money if I buy here! I like Dronfield, but not sure how it is as an area? Anyone know people who live there, or live there yourself? Also Killamarsh has been suggested, again, not sure what this is like, same with Aston. Seems to be more for the money further out and I don’t mind living a bit further out if it’s a nice area. Also had Penistone recommended too.
I wouldn't say Broomhill's a no go area, especially if you live in Nether Edge at the moment. Are you thinking of Broomhall?
You'll get more house for your money if you live further out - my parents live in Aston and it has some nice parts, and some rough parts. Killamarsh is similar but I think you should easily find a nice house in one of those areas (or the other villages out that way) within your budget.
Which police station will you be based at? It can take up to 45 minutes to get into the centre of Sheffield from Aston at rush hour. The bus service is not too bad but you wouldn't be able to get home late at night. If you were based at Moss Way police station that's only about 10 minutes from Aston.
Killamarsh is in Derbyshire, not South Yorkshire. I don't know if that's relevant to you.
Ok, im sorry, but with your quickness it was bound to be picked up!! Ready for all the replies peops! x
Thanks eveyone, really appreciate it. So Dronfield not bad then? Any no go areas within Dronfield? Maybe?
Broomhill, Broomhall, im not sure really!! You've sussed me Andy! Which one is a bit noisy at night cos of the students? erm? i think thats the one that i dont want to live in! I know not all students are noisy...im one now! but then again, some make up for it!!!
I dont have a clue where i will be based, havnt even got in yet! Thanks for the optimism though! I like the sound of you!!
So then, we drove around Aston/Dronfield today and not too sure. Drove by a house on Windsor rise in Aston, and didnt really like the surrounding houses, seemed a bit estate like, some neighbours were out in deckchairs too-looking like rab c nesbit!! I know i sound like a snob now, but it didnt really do it for me, although some other bits looked a bit nicer. I should have known that for a four bed, two bath on for £158,000 there was a catch!
Dronfield not bad, so many cul de sacs though! Seemed quite bad for parking too, as everyone and there dog parked on the paths and seemed to forget they had a drive/or had a second car!
So come on then, anyone with no go/go areas?!
Thanks again x
bjshooter 16-04-2006, 22:23 To be honest I wouldn't rule anywhere out completely as I have just found out there are a lot of areas that have good and bad in them. Gleadless for example, gleadless valley is not good but there are some very nice parts. I have been house hunting for the last month or so and I found some nice pockets of areas such as wincobank, I would go and look at any you aren't sure of in daylight hours and at night to get a real feel for the area.
DaBouncer 16-04-2006, 22:26 Gleadless for example, gleadless valley is not good but there are some very nice parts.
Actually Gleadless Valley is very good it just has bad pockets of smaller areas with trouble making residents.
Take it from someone born n bred on't valley.
The majority is good and the minority is not good.
bjshooter 16-04-2006, 22:47 Actually Gleadless Valley is very good it just has bad pockets of smaller areas with trouble making residents.
Take it from someone born n bred on't valley.
The majority is good and the minority is not good.
Yeah that is exactly what I am trying to say, there are nice bits of every area, I live on the Manor and even thats not all bad, and I am buying a house on Arbourthorne, which has a bad rep, but the road is lovely. you should go and judge areas for youself, that is what I mean.
Thanks you two, i do know what you mean, but when i dont know the area well enough i wouldnt really feel confident in my choice, so i think it would just be easier to stick away from those places. So anyone got any no-go or yes-go! then...
youwhatref 17-04-2006, 09:19 pdrnsf, i'd suggest S20 near the Moss way police station. Looking at Mosborough (£150k is just about do-able) but also look at Beighton/Owlthorpe etc
How come youwhaterf? Is it a good area? Im not so bothered about being near any police stations, if thats why you said it? Dont mind having to drive around 30mins ish at all.
i live norton lees its not bad here you would get a semi for that just.
Yeh i know where norton lee's is ish, is it the same as norton? Is it not too close to Batemoor/Jordanthorpe ish? Thanks.
DaBouncer 17-04-2006, 11:12 Norton Lees is a fair treck from Jordanthorp and Batemoor mate.
Not that living in those areas is bad either.
youwhatref 17-04-2006, 11:18 How come youwhaterf? Is it a good area? Im not so bothered about being near any police stations, if thats why you said it? Dont mind having to drive around 30mins ish at all.
Only mentioned Moss Way as you may know it. I think they arew very good areas and are up and coming. Majority of the houses are under 20 years old and it isn't a built up area. Up sides is that is is a very good area but reasonably priced (although rising), Supertram is close by. I think the only down side for my area is that it is missing a local pub/shop although Mosborough has plenty of pubs.
Thanks everyone, is norton and norton lees the same place then? Dronfield is just after the batemoor turn off isnt it? how far is norton lees from there? Further than dronfield?
These are some of the houses i looked at over the past few days:
http://212.50.188.108/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086007/FORGE/56271/7
http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086008/RAVEN/56923/8
http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086008/SHAKE/55155/11
http://212.50.188.108/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086008/PATTE/56457/2
Parking seemed a nightmare in this cul de sac
http://212.50.188.105/cgi-win/vebra.cgi?details1?src=vebra&PropertyCode=1086008/ULLSW/56013/7
Anyone know anything about these areas of Dronfield? Cheers everyone. x
I had a semi in North Anston in early 70's. Used to take half an hour to Tinsley by car. Because of its faroutness, I would think the price would be no problem.
Thanks MikeG, has anyone heard of the streets in the links for houses in dronfield? Thaks in advance. x
shirty30 17-04-2006, 20:49 To be honest I wouldn't rule anywhere out completely as I have just found out there are a lot of areas that have good and bad in them. Gleadless for example, gleadless valley is not good but there are some very nice parts. I have been house hunting for the last month or so and I found some nice pockets of areas such as wincobank, I would go and look at any you aren't sure of in daylight hours and at night to get a real feel for the area.
Gleadless Valley is not good, But Gleadless Townend is... i've lived there all my life, don't see any trouble what so ever (you may find odd gangs of kids hanging round but you'll find that anywhere). I wouldn't consider living anywhere else, ok I may be biased having lived there all my life but thats my opinion.
youwhatref 18-04-2006, 15:21 pdrnsf for a good duide to S20 have a look at the butlers web site. Although sometimes they can be a little overpriced.
ok, thanks ref!...oh these look nice...
http://www.butlers.co.uk/sales_fulldetails.php?id=100010368
http://www.butlers.co.uk/sales_fulldetails.php?id=100011265
http://www.butlers.co.uk/sales_fulldetails.php?id=100011917
Whats owlthorpe like, and mosborough...any ideas? Thanks again. x
meumeu77 18-04-2006, 19:27 To be honest I wouldn't rule anywhere out completely as I have just found out there are a lot of areas that have good and bad in them. I have been house hunting for the last month or so and I found some nice pockets of areas such as wincobank, I would go and look at any you aren't sure of in daylight hours and at night to get a real feel for the area.
agreed. When we were househunting with my husband we looked at areas with bad reputations. We found that some did deserve their reputation but others weren't justified. We've picked a house in the Wincobank/Grimesthorpe area and have had no bother. It's close to the city centre, Meadowhall, the M1 and Hillsborough, etc.
The best thing is to check houses at different times of the day.Good luck.
Thanks! Have been told that Penistone is nice, Cubley area. Anyone from there? x
Le Phantom 19-04-2006, 11:11 i live norton lees its not bad here you would get a semi for that just.
I'd agree with this, still not a very discovered part, good transport links and good pubs :cool: On the edge of your price range though.
It all depends what you want, Dronfield is a big modern(ish) estate, personally not my cup of tea and it's certainly not Sheffield :D Mosborough is similar if smaller.
I prefer smaller well established communities with some local shops and not on one of the rat runs. Too far out and you lose the sense of living in Sheffield, too near in and parking is an issue. As somebody said look at an area at different times and on different days. Shops, schools, pubs and the state of the streets will tell you a lot.
Norton is the 1930's estate on the south side of Graves Park, the cost there is probably out of your league. Norton Lees is on the north side of the Park (which is the biggest in Sheffield and lovely in itself) and has a mixed group of housing from terraces to very expensive detached and mostly 1930's semis.
Meadowhead, Woodseats are worth a look too, I'd avoid Shirebrook myself it's quite isolated and friends who live there say some parts are rough, plus everybody knows everybody :(
My sister has been rehoused as an emergency in Wincobank and although there are kids hanging around at the bottom of Fife Street. it seems very quiet at the top of standon Road where the 86 bus loops round.
Would def prefer not to be on the rat run phantom, your thinking is good!
I didnt know dronfield was such a big estate, where would you rec that was a bit smaller? norton/lees? I would think that there might be loadsa kids on the park around there though? Is the park very close to the houses? Sorry im asing a million questions!
Anyone know about pensitone then?
Thanks for your help too Glennis. x
Le Phantom 20-04-2006, 07:58 Would def prefer not to be on the rat run phantom, your thinking is good!
I didnt know dronfield was such a big estate, where would you rec that was a bit smaller? norton/lees? I would think that there might be loadsa kids on the park around there though? Is the park very close to the houses? Sorry im asing a million questions!
Anyone know about pensitone then?
Thanks for your help too Glennis. x
Dronfield was the biggest private estate in Europe at one point and is huge. If you like modern then the edges of it are okay and some of the estates around Crystal Peaks likewise - if a little prone to chav's :hihi:
Gleadless Townend as somebody mentioned is okay, as is most of S8 - as per usual you have to and have a good deco as it can vary.
All of the parts near Graves Park are fine, kids don't hang around the Park at all (just not a teenage thing, it's not lit and doesn't have any shops). Woodseats is busier but has some good streets off it, from Norton across Graves Park down through Norton Lees and on to Chesterfield Road there are many houses and east of Gleadless Valley and Blackstock road it all seems pleasent.
I like to go to an area and talk to the locals on a weekend, either by walking about or in the local pub, they will tell you exactly what they think and even which the best streets are.
Penistone is a place unto itself, more Rotherham/Barnsley than Sheffield, I expect some parts are very country like and others will have been hit hard by the steel closures.
It all boils down to what you want from an area. To me, places like Crookes and Broomhill wd be no go areas due to all the noise, irresponsible neighbours, pools of vomit on pavements etc! Call it an age thing! You need to look hard at your own priorities and then look at all areas objectively, ignoring all current dictates about trendy areas etc as this all gets overturned in a few years anyway, with the truly iconoclastic leading the way by virtue of good sense, taste and foresight!
It all boils down to what you want from an area. To me, places like Crookes and Broomhill wd be no go areas due to all the noise, irresponsible neighbours, pools of vomit on pavements etc! Call it an age thing!
As opposed to, say, Firth Park, where rather than pools of vomit on the pavements, one can look forward to the "treat" of torched cars, run down council houses and a group of ASBOs on every street corner.
islandman 27-04-2006, 13:41 Have sent you a pm, pdrnsf.
Have a look at our website we have a few in your price range, all decent areas.
www.2roost.com
Good Luck
Ilive on the hollythorpe estate its nice hrer local shops ,schools,and good bus service.Theres a couple of houses on sale on my road leeshall ave, one is on with blundells and one with winkworth .they both look clean and tidy from the outside and the one on the corner for sale with blundells has a large garden and if you were looking to extend it would be good.
youwhatref 29-04-2006, 15:16 ok, thanks ref!...oh these look nice...
http://www.butlers.co.uk/sales_fulldetails.php?id=100010368
http://www.butlers.co.uk/sales_fulldetails.php?id=100011265
http://www.butlers.co.uk/sales_fulldetails.php?id=100011917
Whats owlthorpe like, and mosborough...any ideas? Thanks again. x
Owlthorpe is more or less very peaceful, not well known. Not many amenities (pubs/shops) although Crystal Peaks is few minutes away. It is on a tram route.
Mosborough is a little more busy that Owlthorpe and has many pubs/shops/takeaways but it doesn't have the tram. Many new homes have been built in Mosborough and the prices are continuining to rise. I'd count both Owlthorpe & Mosborough above Killamarsh, but others may disagree.
I think Dronfield is classed as a city. Not a 'borough'. That's why it's so big. I don't know the areas within Dronfield that well, so I cannot comment.
I think at this stage in the house buying market, you prob need to realistically see just what 150k will get you. (Just buy a copy of the Sheffield Telegraph on a Thursday.) I think for us SF members, we can name good or bad areas depending on our own experiences of living there, and our own perception of that area, but it may not be what realistically is available on the market.
To me, the 'good areas' and the higher end of the housing market have always been the areas near the 6th form schools in Sheffield. It's what drives the market anyway. So unless you want to buy a house near a good school, with a long-term prospect, then I would say, any area is good really. It depends on what you are looking for.
Do you want to make some money from it too ? (If so, then consider buying it cheaper and do it up yourself.) Do you want to be near the city centre which is close to a social life ?
I would say that, if you already live in Nether Edge, then consider closeby areas like Abbeydale Rd, Beauchief (prob pricey), Norton is up the road.
I think Dronfield is classed as a city. Not a 'borough'. That's why it's so big.
Not even Doncaster is classed as a city! Dronfield is classed as a town. Its population is around 23,000.
amandakm 01-05-2006, 15:41 If you only have 15oK think about the top end of Herries road/herries drive, big houses, still quite good prices, loads of money pouring into local schools and believe it or not relatively quiet, bits of southey green aren't bad, it has a bad reputation like Parsons Crossand Shirecliffe/green but even in those areas there are reasonable bits, go and look one road can be completely different from two streets down.
Not even Doncaster is classed as a city! Dronfield is classed as a town. Its population is around 23,000.
LOL. Oops. Sorry.
Well, I hope the OP knows what I mean.
How does it go again ? City -> Town (?) -> Village -> Hamlet ??
Ther's a house on my road going up for auction, will prolly get arond £100.000. It's in Stannington just up from Hillsborough, lovely quiet area. Definitly worth a look.
LOL. Oops. Sorry.
Well, I hope the OP knows what I mean.
How does it go again ? City -> Town (?) -> Village -> Hamlet ??
I think that's right, yes.
I grew up in Dronfield so know it quite well. I always thought that I would never move back to it however as I'm getting older (and have children) it seems more attractive. It has good schools and it has its own (although small) shopping areas...there's a couple of newly built places which are trying to be trendy places.
The whole area is a bit of a mixed bag really. I would not dream of living on the Dronny Woodhouse estate...it feels like Brooky without the scally's and you would HAVE to wash your car (sorry your 4x4) on a Sunday (oh and mow the lawn - its the law). However there are some areas on the outskirts that are ok. Some places in Coal Aston are fine (although it is becoming a 'grey' market - my mum included!!). Hilltop is ok too. I suppose the rule is don't go into the big estate!
I'm living in Meersbrook (next to Norton Lees) and its great. It's quiet but very close to town and the local pubs and restaurants
I suppose in the end it depends what you are wanting in an area?
Good luck
Thanks everyone, i have not looked at this thread for a while, didnt realise all you helpful lot were still bumping it up! Lots of helpful replies, and i am really greatful, thanks so much.
However there has been a change in circumstances and my partner has got a new job in leeds, so we are not staying in sheff anymore. Only upto around junction 37 of M1, so not really too far away.
I have started another thread on that, so feel free to post on there if you have any helpful comments. Thanks a million! x
Oops, please could a mod maybe close this thread, so i dont get mixed up with my other one! Thanks!
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