Hi, so much time has gone by and most of the folks I knew in the dim and distant past will be nudging 50 by now. But..... I started
at Hinde House Comprehensive in Sept 68 and was finished by
July 70. But that short time is burned on my memory. David Tate, Stuart Lipton, Michael Humberstone. Mr Sagar was the form tutor.

Anyone remember me, I was recalled by my parents to Gloucestershire after a term of particularly rowdy behaviour.

Julian Sims

I started Hinde House in Sept 1970 so you would have left by then.
I started with a tour of the school in July of 1970 and the teacher was Miss Fell.
When i started i was in Sorby, Miss Grigorian and she was my form teacher throughout and tought English.
I can't say i particulary enjoyed my time there but i have a lot of good memories of my 5 years there.
Mr Edwards was the head and Turner was the deputy head.
Crownshaw, Ridgeway and napier were all feared.

Hi, and thanks for the reply. Yes you started basically just as I had finished, and had to start at a school in Gloucestershire which was a major cultural shock (not entirely positive). I remember Miss Grigorian very well, I suppose hundreds of years ago she would have been Persian, she was quite cool. But Edwards and Turner were quite the stormtroopers I recall.

Is it true that there was a riot at Hinde House early in your time there? I heard rumour that the kids threw the chairs at the teachers on the assembly hall stage and it made the Sheffield newspaper.

Cheers.

Julian

Originally posted by Cycleracer
When i started i was in Sorby, Miss Grigorian and she was my form teacher throughout and tought English.


It seems like you weren't "tought" it particularly well :)

(sorry, sorry sorry, someone just had to do it!) :)

Hahahahahah, nice one. I take it fair and square on the chin, perhaps I meant "taut"

Great way to start Monday morning.

Julian

Actually Wickerman he was refering to me.

Anyway, about the riot, yesa the riot happened in 73 when all the school ran riot in the ground, i was actually stopped by a teacher and man handled back into the class room along with my mate and when the rioting pupils passed by the classroom on the outside i had to hide under the tables due to them shouting SCABS and it was very embarrassing.
It made the papers and the next day the school was back to normal.

I remember the riot, I left that school in 1974, the headmaster had to be locked in his office, till it calmed down
I remember Mr Humberstone and music teacher Cecil Smith, who always wore his cape, I remember Mr Smith the maths teacher, who put the fear of God into me
My french teacher was Miss Pitts and a flasher used to appear in the walkway between the school and the graveyard
Mrs Hardy was the dinner lady that kept control in the dining room when we had school dinners

I went to the wretched school between 1974 and 1978. The Miss Pitts referred to earlier was one of the very few good teachers. She was also extremely attractive to the male pupils [myself included] with a lovely, angelic face, long blonde hair and , well, there is no denying it, full breasts. In fact, the consonant of her surname should have been changed to another letter, which modesty prevents me from suggesting. She appeared to be fully aware of her sex appeal, and I remember her wicked sense of humour with affection.
Edwards is previously mentioned too. What a terrifying bully that man was. Fortunately, I never crossed his path, but I saw the despicable, cowardly way he humiliated and reduced to tears many of the pupils. He was a kind of bizarre, tall, Welsh Dracula who appeared in a long, swishing cape when least expected. Whenever he did appear, the teachers as well as the pupils seemed to freeze with terror. Yes, it WAS me who painted "Edwards is a *******" on the side of the gymnasium so that the school governors would see it the next day, when he escorted the party around his horrible, huge sprawling school.
The riot, or near riot, was before my time. However, in 76, on Sports Day, a most unfortunate, gangling young teacher called Wybrow was mocked with banners proclaiming that he indulged in self-abuse, pelted with eggs and chased by a mob of aggressive Sixth formers. "The poor man was terrified", said Mrs Lucock, the Art teacher.
What a dreadful, dreadful school. Fortunately, I went on to gain many qualifications after I left. Most didn't have my opportunity to redress their situation.

Mr PT went to that school.

He left just about the time the school leaving age was raised to 16, and there was a cross-over time, where there was a fifth-form year added on, which he refused to stay on for, as he had already got employment lined up, to start on the Monday, after he'd finished the final (fourth) school year on the Friday.

Apparently, a form was supposed to have been sent home to parents to sign to say that they were in agreement to theior child staying on at school for another year. His mother had not signed it, and therefore he was not intending to stay on for this extra year. Well, what was the point? he had employment lined up, and he was going into a trade...

the teacher (i think it must have been the sadistic one, mentioned above, by a few of you) threatened to give Mr PT the cane. this man was a real nasty piece of work, from what Mr PT has told me. totally barbaric.

this teacher had demanded that he stay on, despite the employment and everything, and had been told "there's no point, I am at work on Monday morning!'
Mr pt said "if you come near me with that cane, I will break that rod, and wrap it round your neck."

the teacher approached, and raised the cane, Mr PT took the cane from him (He was built like a brick outhouse even then) and snapped the cane.

the teacher got another cane, and made to treaten Mr PT again, and he did the same to that cane.

and again.

the teacher had called for "back-up" from the other masters. they arrived and were going to restrain mr PT physically whilst this sadist administered the caning.

He told the others the same thing, that if they laid a finger on him, there would be trouble.

"You are only making these threats, to make an example of me in front of the other pupils," Mr PT said, " it's a futile and pointless gesture! I have three days left of school, and I am working on Monday. If you were to commit this same act upon me after the end of the week, it'd be assault, and a police matter"

"Touch me, and you will have ructions on your hands!" Mr PT walked out of the school, there and then.

PT

Cheers Plain talker ; your postings are always worth reading. I am sure that we are talking about the same man here. He was a typical cowardly bully , full of confidence with timid children half his size. He must have been in his element at the school. I was fortunately not in his feared double Maths class. He would have CRUCIFIED me, I am certain. Apparently, he had no sympathy for anyone who found mathematics difficult [which, then, included me], and would mercilessly humiliate them in front of the class, which itself was cowed into total silence. There is a place for discipline, but he was without any shadow of doubt a sadist who despised his pupils.

What a surprise to read all this, I have been in New Zealand since 1974 and not spoken to anyone about the old school.
I remember the name they called Miss Pitts, I remember the many pairs of knee high boots she wore.
I think the music teacher was Cecil Dowling, and the lady music teacher was Miss Smith, I have had to put my thinking cap on.
I remember some kids belting a hedgehog to death with tennis rackets on the football field, have things changed at all, surely it must be a better place to be, put me off school, and I left at the end of 5th Form

Nsiebert, the battering of hedgehogs was a popular activity [I never joined in, honestly] amongst the more maladjusted and retarded pupils. Also popular, I am told, were trips to Shiregreen Quarry for frog-bashing, the details of which are too revolting and shameful to relate. On a pupil's birthday [this happened to me,once], older pupils would take them by the arms and legs and hurl them down the steep banks that surrounded the infamous "school". This , for some obscure reason, was known as "Barabas" after a biblical character. I was thrown only once, but I remember an unpopular boy being hurled down the banks fourteen times on his fourteenth birthday.
The sight of Miss Pitts in her mini skirts and boots was one of the few glimpses of beauty we were allowed. With a half-smile playing about her lips, she would instruct us in the finer points of past participles, pronunciation, etc, knowing full well that all the boys found her absolutely fascinating. If we were lucky, some fool would temporarily displease the Goddess, and she would sharply say "ECOUTE!", her eyes flashing. Ah, the blue, remembered hills of childhood as someone once said...

I was to be friends with Mr Wainwright the Science teacher and visited his farm on many occations were I helped with his animals.
He used to tell me about Edwards and what the staff thought of him, and he was a bully to them to.
Knowing he was feared by the staff as well as the pupils is scarey.
He was'nt a pleasant man in any shape or form and only crossed his path once.
Once was once to often to.
Now his deputy was Turner, a mild mannered man who was approachable and Miss Mason, a happy eldish lady who was as nice as pie but had a temper if you got on her wrong side.
Whatever happened to Edwards and though he will surely be well retired now if he is still around, what would he get away with these days.
He was certainly a disaplinarian in every shape and form but it was'nt a bad thing when you look back in history and think that this kind of disapline is well needed in schools today.

Cycleracer, your posting is very interesting. I remember Miss or Mrs Mason, a rather nice lady who always called us, "boys and girls" to the amusement of the cynical amongst us. I am not surprised that Edwards bullied his staff as well as pupils; a sadist in a position of authority in a school like this would pick on anyone below him, i.e, everybody. I take your point regarding the lack of discipline in schools [I teach in higher ed, myself], but I must respectfully disagree with your endorsement of Edwards' approach. If I have misinterpreted your point, I apologise. I witnessed the man deliberately single out particular pupils for no reason other than to bully, humiliate and distress them. His attitude to the pupils was absolutely barbaric [and, believe me, I am no liberal with an aversion to discipline and punishment]. My uncle was friendly with the Head of Concord Middle School, John Roch [they served as JPs together in the seventies], and apparently Roch considered Edwards to be a sadistic bully too. If the caped one is still alive, I would reckon that he is around 92 years of age. I think he retired around 1977. The alternative possibility is that we owe a debt of thanks to some, brave Sheffield version of Van Helsing, for doing the business with a sharpened stake.

Timo,, your absolutely correct Edwards did single out pupils but as we queued up for the assembly outside his office he would sometimes come out into the corridor and you would then hear a pin drop.
I once saw him pull out my best mate from the queue and he was in tears, very frightened and he was dragged by the scruff of the neck into his office.
I was glad that were'nt me but the fear was real.
I regulary saw him pick out the school bullies and hard cases at the time and I personally found that amusing, the hard man of the school put down to a gibbering wreck and they dare not answer him back.

I understand were your coming from and although Edwards was a bully his decipline worked and he was feared in a big way.
Ridgeway and Napier were also strict to but they did not bully you like Edwards did and the old Edwards stare was usually enough to get the pupils quiet.

Cycleracer, yes I can see your point too regarding Edwards' treatment of the self-styled hardmen. The problem was that the man used the same treatment on often usually well-behaved, and sometimes innocent pupils. His treatment of female pupils was as bad as his treatment of the boys. I once saw him drag a girl by the throat. She was absolutely terrified. Her crime? Daring to play a little tune on the school piano at break! If it were not so tragic, it would be almost funny.
Of course, teachers like this leave themselves open to revenge by former pupils. As a tutor myself, I always keep in mind the appalling examples set by those such as our sinister, caped sadist, and I try to treat students with kindness and respect. Although, to be fair, I teach adults who CHOOSE to be there. I have no doubt that Edwards had a daunting task as head of such a large, sprawling school. I know that a minority of the pupils certainly did require firm handling, but he revelled in causing terror. On reflection, such a man deserves our pity just as much as our contempt.

Funny enough Timo since I left Hinde House in 1975 I have always be intrigued by Edwards and would love to read about the man himself , where and how he lived away from school, what was he like to his family and despite everything bad about him he is an interesting subject.
It would be interesting to hear from anyone who knew him outside or maybe a teacher from his generation who could shed light on the man himself.
Edwards has a face you never forget.
I am inspired to open a thread on him.

Cycleracer, you sound like a good lad to me. The Edwards thread is a good idea. I'll join you in a minute...

You all have vivid memories of Edwards, does anyone remember the old bus that was bought for school trips.
I only went on a couple of outings, and one was to go to Granville College to see what courses were available etc.
I remember going up the drive to the college, most of us hid on the floor we were so ashamed.
When the fund raising was done we thought it would be a coach, but it was some really old thing, looked like world war II vintage.

Nadine, I believe that Edwards bought it from his old Kamarads in Das Reich SS Division!

Timo
More than likely,
I can remember the flapping cape as he went on the stage for assembly in the morning,
You obviously do not remember the bus,

This thread seems to have merged with my Sullivan's Chippy thread. Never mind, it's all good stuff.

Originally posted by timo
Nadine, I believe that Edwards bought it from his old Kamarads in Das Reich SS Division!

Very funny Timo!

No excuse for Edwards - at all.

One teacher that gave me some hope was a Bill Firth. Used to teach Eng Lit. Funny guy, liked him alot.

According to Hinde House web site they still have a Bill Firth teaching there.

Used to take the class to his house for Shakespeare readings and whatnot - showed us/me a different way.
I think he worked in tandem with a Ms. Barwell who used to grind through literature readings with our class every Friday afternoon as I remember.

This didn't always go well after our Friday lunchtime sessions at the Horse Shoe, but by god she tried... :-)

Also learned alot from a Physics teacher - don't remember his name but was a slender guy with thin white hair - always seemed to wear a white lab coat.

Any ideas?

Originally posted by gettingon
Very funny Timo!

No excuse for Edwards - at all.

One teacher that gave me some hope was a Bill Firth. Used to teach Eng Lit. Funny guy, liked him alot.

According to Hinde House web site they still have a Bill Firth teaching there.

Used to take the class to his house for Shakespeare readings and whatnot - showed us/me a different way.
I think he worked in tandem with a Ms. Barwell who used to grind through literature readings with our class every Friday afternoon as I remember.

This didn't always go well after our Friday lunchtime sessions at the Horse Shoe, but by god she tried... :-)

Also learned alot from a Physics teacher - don't remember his name but was a slender guy with thin white hair - always seemed to wear a white lab coat.

Any ideas? Reading this reminded me of a couple of teachers that have just sprung to mind.
Mr Wardle who did technical drawing, he was strict to and never gets a mention here and also Mr Martin but can't remember what he taught.

Originally posted by Cycleracer
also Mr Martin but can't remember what he taught.

Martin I believe taught Biology, (along with laurence). Cool guy with a beard iirc. Dissected frogs with him, aswell as did the e coli in a petri dish thing.
Always seemed to wear a blue blazer/jacket... and hush puppy shoes.

Any help with the Physics guy?
I still like, and read about, Physics to this day.

Gettingon,
Glad I made you laugh re Edwards. Please reply to my private email; I would love to know who you are. Re Bill Firth, yes, he wasn't a bad English teacher at all. He and Barwell liked the satirical stories I wrote at the back of my exercise book [which, incidentally were full of nines out of tens, so there etc]. Barwell showed them to her friends apparently. On reflection, they were third-rate Pythonesque rubbish, but perhaps an amusing surprise for bored teachers in a truly awful, depressing school. It was nice that they found them amusing. Other humourless types like Andrews might have marched me to the corpse-strewn lair of the sinister, caped, devilishly-sadistic Edwards.
The Chinese discovered water torture. The Spanish claim the Bastinado as their own. It is said that the French discovered silence as a method of torturing prisoners to madness. Edwards perfected the technique of repeating the same question over and over again, like a tape loop, with insulting remarks thrown in. For example, "Do you understand? What do you understand?" repeated five times before the bewildered and terrified victim can reply, followed by "You are a pig. Yes, you are a pig", and back to the repetitive questioning. He was a lovely man.

i remember the the physics teacher you spoke of. he was still there while i was at hinde house between 83-86 along with gregorian still teachig english lit. not sure of his name - could it be blenkinsop?
interesting to hear your tales of abuse from teachers. by the time i got there all they could do was give out detentions. i remember getting frequent detentions mainly due to an argumentative chap called lester divers who you will have heard of a couple of years back when he was shot dead.

Busymum
Not shot dead at school I hope, things cant be that bad!!

Originally posted by timo
Gettingon,
Glad I made you laugh re Edwards.



You did. I remember him well.



Originally posted by timo
Gettingon,
Other humourless types like Andrews might have marched me to the corpse-strewn lair of the sinister, caped, devilishly-sadistic Edwards.
The Chinese discovered water torture. The Spanish claim the Bastinado as their own. It is said that the French discovered silence as a method of torturing prisoners to madness. Edwards perfected the technique of repeating the same question over and over again, like a tape loop, with insulting remarks thrown in. For example, "Do you understand? What do you understand?" repeated five times before the bewildered and terrified victim can reply, followed by "You are a pig. Yes, you are a pig", and back to the repetitive questioning. He was a lovely man.


I don't ever remember getting called in by him, but if you had any sense at all, you definitely tiptoed past his office.

Originally posted by busymum
i remember the the physics teacher you spoke of. he was still there while i was at hinde house between 83-86 along with gregorian still teachig english lit. not sure of his name - could it be blenkinsop?

Thanks for that busymum.

Did he still use about a 12 foot long spring to demonstrate the propagation of light? I joke about that to this day...
"look, it travels in waves but also in a straight line..." see I did learn sumfink from scoyl.

Of course we now have the particle/wave duality theory of quantum physics...wonder how he demonstrates that? :-)

Busymum, yes by the time you were a pupil Edwards was long gone, and capital [no, I'm not confusing it with corporal...] punishment at Hinde House had been abolished. Gettingon will doubtless recall Mr Ridgeway the Woodwork teacher who was not averse to administering a beating to deserving pupils. He was not a sadistic bully like Edwards, but someone whom the pupils did not view lightly. With his big, Brian Blessed type physique, he was a fair and just man, but a very imposing figure indeed. Interestingly, I met him again around 1979/80 and he told me that post-corporal punishment, the kids "openly laughed" at his attempts to impose non-corporal discipline. I was incredulous...

Originally posted by busymum
gregorian still teachig english lit. interesting to hear your tales of abuse from teachers. by the time i got there all they could do was give out detentions.
Gregorian was my form tutor throughout my time at school 1970-75 and was a good English teacher, although then she was Persian.
Today would have thought she would be Iraqui. ?.
Anyway you say Gregorian was still there in the mid 80s, I always wondered what became of her.

Originally posted by timo
Busymum, yes by the time you were a pupil Edwards was long gone, and capital [no, I'm not confusing it with corporal...] punishment at Hinde House had been abolished. Gettingon will doubtless recall Mr Ridgeway the Woodwork teacher who was not averse to administering a beating to deserving pupils. He was not a sadistic bully like Edwards, but someone whom the pupils did not view lightly. With his big, Brian Blessed type physique, he was a fair and just man, but a very imposing figure indeed.

I do remember Ridgeway Timo. How could I ever forget my lovely teapot stand?

Didn't he used to administer the canings in a small closet just to the right as you entered the (class?) room?

I also remember Napier (constantly pursing lips) in metalwork. I can smell the "lubricant" stench of the classroom now.
We had to make an "L" shape out of the sharpest piece of metal you could imagine. Not my cup of tea with all the lathes and everything.

Funny you should mention Brian Blessed, loved him in early I Claudius, and the 1st season of Black Adder. I'll never forget the scene where they're having a toast in the castle, and instead of clinking everybody's glasses gently, he smashes them all over the floor!
His reaction...the whole scene is priceless!

Cycleracer, I also remember Gregorian. Back in the 70's, I remember thinking it odd being taught English by someone who wasn't ...erm... well...English.

Good Times.

Gettingon
I had mentioned in one of my earlier postings, that Mr Ridgeway was my social studies teacher for 2 years in the senior school, and I remember him being a fair teacher.
Never had a problem with him, but remember him getting the rough boys by the hair and banging there heads against the wall if they misbehaved, usually they were not doing as they were told, but even so, I didnt feel intimidated by him, not like Mr Andrews for some reason.

I think it was Mrs Mason that renovated an old stone country barn or something into a nice house.
It was deralict, and she had these slides and fetched them to school to show us all, I was quite intrigued by it all, as it was totally falling down, even the animals may have been living in it, but it ended up a really nice house.
Not the sort of thing you see in Wincobank, that sort of renovation.

The Christian Union made me puke. I recall the sugary, saccharine, "Jump up and down for Jesus", evangelical form of Christianity they forced down our throats at assembly time. They were all moist eyed at Easter, of course, singing of green hills far away, beyond city walls etc. I remember Mr Wood in a moment of heightened emotion exclaiming, "Jesus LOVES you ALL!". One magnificent boy named Steedon whispered a tad too loudly, "WHY DUNT 'E GEE US A F****** EASTER EGG THEN?". Utter chaos followed with Steedon dragged away like the moneylenders in the temple. I always preferred a traditional approach to Christianity [some would call it "High" Anglican or Tractarian], in which quiet contemplation of the sacraments predominates. Not this lot! We had to endure a concert by Cliff Richard! To my eternal credit I was caned for booing the "Peter Pan of Pop". No wonder some turn to Devilry...

Timo, that must have been after my time ( I am older!!!)
Did Cliffy come to Hinde House then, that must have been the first celebrity.

Nadine,
The Cliff Richard concert was around 75/76. Previously they had foisted Garth Hewitt [who?!] upon us with his moralistic and sentimental songs about life's flotsam and jetsam. I really dislike that kind of happy-clappy, evangelical Christianity as purveyed by anorak-wearing guitarists. All that "Jesus was the first Communist" twaddle. Apparently the Christian Union , or some of them, were pals with the ghastly "Peter Pan of Pop" and he may have even played TWICE [!!] at Hinde House.I suppose I was vulgar to have booed the musical entertainer/evangelist, but the sight of the CU in pathetic adoration, all damp-eyed and self-righteous, stirred me to fury. Given the opportunity today, I would pelt Sir Cliff with eggs and push his face into manure.

Timo
I have to say my husband quite likes Cliff Richard, and we have a bit of a joke about it, because he is too good to be true, and I am not a big fan.
Do you remember his white suits and he danced with his thumbs sticking up, if you know how I mean.

Nadine, no offence intended to your husband [I am sure that he is a great bloke], but this is the first time I have ever heard of a bloke liking Cliff Richard! Well, there's a first time for everything. Yes, I do recall the daft dance the poncy pillock did, with his thumbs out like a right prawn. Sorry, I can't write elegantly about him! What is it that your husband likes about the "Peter Pan of Pop"? This has amused me...

Timo, dont forget that crazy horses thing he did with his knees, flapping them back and forth.
I think it was the bachelor boys days he remembers from his youth.
I laugh at him, and wait for it "He likes country music", I am trying to educate him over the years.
By the way have tracked down my sister now, she saw my posting on this site.
My old man is a bit old fashioned me thinks!!

Originally posted by nsiebert
Timo, that must have been after my time ( I am older!!!)
Did Cliffy come to Hinde House then, that must have been the first celebrity. I can confirm Cliff Richard did come to Hinde House in 1973 and I was ill on the day so missed him.

Nadine,
I am delighted that you have tracked down your sister. Try and work on your bloke re his Cliff Richard "issues", I'm sure there must be a support group somewhere...

Timo
I will try and counsel him, in marriage we all have our crosses to bear.
Dont forget he is a kiwi, not English like me, so that could explain things.
I wonder what Cliff thought of Hinde House then.
Do you remember that Gary Glitter had a road manager in Brightside, that was about the closest I ever came to celebrity.

Cliff did come and play a few Chrisitian songs at Hinde house - One kid called Craig Simmnet held up a banner saying "SUPER CLIFF WALKS ON WATER" the small R.E teacher (Mr Wood ?) nearly had a heart attack.
Anyone remember the end of year Films shown ?
Dr No, In like Flint ring to mind whilst I was there.

RexT

RexT,
Simnett still hasn't given me back that copy of Eric Idle's Rutland Weekend Television book. If you see him, ask him to pop it in the post. I've been patient haven't I? I loaned it him 27 years ago...! Only kidding.

Martin I believe taught Biology, (along with laurence). Cool guy with a beard iirc. Dissected frogs with him, aswell as did the e coli in a petri dish thing.
Always seemed to wear a blue blazer/jacket... and hush puppy shoes.

Any help with the Physics guy?
I still like, and read about, Physics to this day.

Lordy lordy, he wasnt the guy from Georgieland who I for one couldnt understand, I told him so one day in class, thought he was going to blow a fuse.

Wow, you took a long time to reply to that! :hihi:

Welcome back to the forum by the way :wave:

Funny enough Timo since I left Hinde House in 1975 I have always be intrigued by Edwards and would love to read about the man himself , where and how he lived away from school, what was he like to his family and despite everything bad about him he is an interesting subject.
It would be interesting to hear from anyone who knew him outside or maybe a teacher from his generation who could shed light on the man himself.
Edwards has a face you never forget.
I am inspired to open a thread on him.

Well Edwards I know lived on the outskirts (then) of Sheffield in some god forsaken outpost possibly a bit like Hadfield ;-)) but it was probably more like Dronfield. But certainly far enough away to be safeish from kids hell bent on revenge. My workmate has just got hold of the I didnt know you cared dvd,s and memories of the now demolished bits of Sheffield that were down the bank from Hinde House came flooding back. Basically at the end of the 60's that bit of Sheffield was a haunting mixture of what was, and what was to come (and now I hear they have demolished the hole in the road in't City Centre). Anybody remember Sutherland Rd Baths? Also, longshot is there anybody up here who witnessed Jimi Hendrix Experience at The City Hall in November of 67?

Wow, you took a long time to reply to that! :hihi:

Welcome back to the forum by the way :wave:

Hey thanks Ally68, and for the smileys. Yes I pride myself on my tardiness ;-))
Drop us a direct email at wickerman@mail.com if you like.

Sheffuld rools oK!!!

Anybody remember Sutherland Rd Baths?


I do lived on the corner up the road from them

Me Mum had a towel swimming costume & sixpence waiting for us when we came home from school.

We all used to dash off to the baths- used to Be Mr Scott that taught swimming, Does anyone remember him?

Hi everybody,I was at Hinde House from 1966 to 73 and left just before the riot.Anybody remember the football match at the sports ground opposite concord sports centre when a few Hinde Housers started hitting anything that moved,teachers included?The Physics teacher was called Mr Priestly I think?
Remember all the teachers mentioned on here especially Gregorian who went mental in one lesson when somebody said the word crap.According to her it was on a par with the F word.Mr Martin was cool let all us 6th formers call him by his first name (David) and used to regale us with stories of London (Carnaby Street etal) in the late 50's early 60's As for Edwards I was one of the unfortunates who felt his wrath.He dragged me out in front of the class and preceded to slag of me and then my mother for no apparent reason a truly odious man.

Hi was at Hinde House from about 68 to 72. Remember some of the names already mentioned. Was in the same form as Janet South, Elaine Self Gill ? Susan Davies, Katheryn Earnshaw. Anyone remember these people. Have to mention I left before the riot!!!!!

Luckily for me I never made it for the Sept 70 term, I do remember (does anyone else) having to make the trek from the youngsters bit of the school (Skoil) up to the main bit, was it for Friday morning assembly and that is when you would as a youngster get to see the feared Edwards, I didnt know much about him other than I didnt want to tangle with him. Anyone remember a little guy with jet black hair who loved playing pennies at lunchtime, his name was Frank Norman, and I used to skip school at lunchtime with Frank and visit this bombed out warzone that had a chip oil, and thats where my tanner (or was it 1/6d) that should have bought the lunch ticket (recall those). There were some very cool teachers amongst the ones that were close to a nervous breakdown. Does anyone recall, I think it might have been early 69 when another school, was it Burngreave, closed down and that meant that us 12/13 year olds had a load of 14/15 year olds from there descend upon us, and they were completely cracked roughnecks, I think I spent the second term learning how to fight. Studio 7 down in Attercliffe comes to mind, as does sneaking into Easy Rider which was x rated in a probably long demolished cinema not that far from Firth Park, anyone remember which one it might have been? I do remember being very proud that Joe Cocker who was on top of the pops was from Sheffield, and t'Grease Band. David Tate, Stewart Taylor (lipper) was my mate, and there were a couple of gals in the class who I was hot for!!! I lived on Abbeyfield Rd in Pitsmoor (I was born there too) dont quite now what goes on in Pitsmoor now, had a fight on the top of the double decker on the way home one day, with get this, a very tough very mean, and very strong black girl, who ended up taking her shoe off and whacking me on the skull with it, I think I got one good shot in and then jumped off the bus a bit quick :-)), who knows I probably deserved it.

Cycleracer, yes I can see your point too regarding Edwards' treatment of the self-styled hardmen. The problem was that the man used the same treatment on often usually well-behaved, and sometimes innocent pupils. His treatment of female pupils was as bad as his treatment of the boys. I once saw him drag a girl by the throat. She was absolutely terrified. Her crime? Daring to play a little tune on the school piano at break! If it were not so tragic, it would be almost funny.
Of course, teachers like this leave themselves open to revenge by former pupils. As a tutor myself, I always keep in mind the appalling examples set by those such as our sinister, caped sadist, and I try to treat students with kindness and respect. Although, to be fair, I teach adults who CHOOSE to be there. I have no doubt that Edwards had a daunting task as head of such a large, sprawling school. I know that a minority of the pupils certainly did require firm handling, but he revelled in causing terror. On reflection, such a man deserves our pity just as much as our contempt.

I've read through all the posts and I can't believe I was at the same school.Torturing hedgehogs and frogs,jumping up and down for Jesus,graffitti on the walls and finally a bloody riot.The mind boggles.What interests me though, is why all the long term teachers who moved up from Owler Lane left in the three years between my year graduating and this thread starting.For those of you who don't know, the entire student and faculty body of Owler Lane Intermediate moved to Hinde House in September '63.The principal,of course,was the notorious Mr E who hadn't been at Owler Lane long but Mrs Fairest (history),Mr Glasby (music),Mr Pashley(French and Math)Mr Holmes (physics),Mr Priest(chemistry),
Mr Crownshaw(metalwork) and Mr Harrison(commerce) had all been at Owler Lane for years and although they were not young they were nowhere near retirement age yet none of you lot who started in '68 has mentioned them.What happened I wonder?In-fighting with the staff already at HH?(most of the teachers mentioned were ranking staff members at HH before we arrived),were the new not-having-passed-the-11 plus intake too rough?or was it Mr E's autocratic style?Something strange happened,that's for sure.By the way,I'd love to know more about the riot.In great detail if poss.



















priest

Seem to remember hearing at the time that the riot started because someone was wearing the wrong coloured socks and was sent home but refused and the riot began.Sounds implausible but knowing Edwards believeable at the same time.

I remember Edwards , he was the most horrid man I've ever met, I was dragged into his office one day for chewing gum, my Mum came to school and hit him with her handbag and for a split second I thought he was going to hit her back, the only nice teacher's I remember there were , Miss Air who took us for gym oh and Mr Anderson who now work's at Yewlands, Mr Thompson and Mr Keaton , I think Mr Keaton was the maths teacher but if you mentioned the war to him we ended up doing history instead haha,
after my run in with Edwards I don't think I went to school for the last 12 months , he was a total bully

Just come across this thread. I was at Hinde House 1956 -1960. I see Mr Ridgeway has been mentioned. He is still in good health and attends the reunions we hold every year for those of us who went to Hinde House when it first opened in 1956. At the 50th anniversary celebration we had in Sept 2006 he cut the cake.
John

Anybody remember Sutherland Rd Baths?


I do lived on the corner up the road from them

Me Mum had a towel swimming costume & sixpence waiting for us when we came home from school.

We all used to dash off to the baths- used to Be Mr Scott that taught swimming, Does anyone remember him?

I remember Scot the swimming teach , some liked him some didn't , I got on with him , went in swimming competition's thank's to him

Hi everyone

I attended HH 1969/72. Allbeit a short period I do have vivid recollections of the dreaded Mr E and his deputy Spam. Does anyone remember Mr Butterworth - English and the wife and husband pair who taught commerce? If you have any fond memories of these guys please share.

Anyone know of Pat Whitehouse and Susan **** and Diane whose mother was a typing teacher? Also Everton Lawrence, Lloyd and Brian Galloway, Lindy Shawsmith, Valerie Neita, Eula Treasure, Jean Parson, Barbara Patterson, Claudette Richards, Kieth Lannaman, **** Hamilton.

Any news about these and anyone else from that era would be much appreciated. Indeed any news about anybody - so long as it's as entertaining as the above offerings.

Hi everyone

I attended HH 1969/72. Allbeit a short period I do have vivid recollections of the dreaded Mr E and his deputy Spam. Does anyone remember Mr Butterworth - English and the wife and husband pair who taught commerce? If you have any fond memories of these guys please share.

Anyone know of Pat Whitehouse and Susan **** and Diane whose mother was a typing teacher? Also Everton Lawrence, Lloyd and Brian Galloway, Lindy Shawsmith, Valerie Neita, Eula Treasure, Jean Parson, Barbara Patterson, Claudette Richards, Kieth Lannaman, **** Hamilton.

Any news about these and anyone else from that era would be much appreciated. Indeed any news about anybody - so long as it's as entertaining as the above offerings.

Remember Everton well, not seen him for few years, but according to my mate at work George Morris (Trunny), he still hangs about around Pitsmoor. I seem to remember a "Ben Galloway" was he related ?

Thanks Shaunfl

Glad to see that there is actually someone out there now. Actually went to Sheffield today but didn't manage to go past the old place or see anyone. Spoke to Everton on phone but didn't get to see him. No, Ben wasn't related to the other two - he was one of them. Some people called Brian, Ben. I understand that they no longer live in Sheffield.

Keep me posted - and I'll do the same.

Thanks Shaunfl

Glad to see that there is actually someone out there now. Actually went to Sheffield today but didn't manage to go past the old place or see anyone. Spoke to Everton on phone but didn't get to see him. No, Ben wasn't related to the other two - he was one of them. Some people called Brian, Ben. I understand that they no longer live in Sheffield.

Keep me posted - and I'll do the same.

Trej,
did you originally go to Earl Marshall ?, if so I,ve got a rough idea who you are.

The name of the white haired Physics teacher was Mr Holmes.He taught the exact same lessons year after year almost word for word. Miss Grigorian was my form tutor. I also remember Mr Firth and Miss Barwell. Mr Gittings for our Biology teacher. Mr Mulligan taught me A level Accounts when I could be bothered to turn up. Mr Carr taught music.

Hi Shaunfl

No, I didn't go to Earl Marshall - keep guessing.

I am surprised that more people aren't logged into this. I have only just got on board so perhaps I'm not the right person to be saying that.


I know Winsome Munroe who went to Earl Marshall. Do you know anything of Marilyn & Faith McFarlane, 'Big Fat' Molly, Elsie?


Keep in touch, looking forward to your next guess.

Trej

Hello fellow Hind Housers

I went to HH from 1971 to1976 and was there at the riot I remember how it started but not the reasons for it.

It was in those times when striking was in the news, anyway there was quite a a number of kids in the upper school hall when the bell went and a guy called Stephen Lee AKA Lurch shouted everyone out and everyone just piled out of the building and sat down outside the woodwork room.

I don't remember why it happened but it got in the Star.

Does anyone remember the prize giving at the City Hall and the carnage that followed in the town centre afterwards?

Yes I remember Elaine Self and Cathrine Earnshaw - just. I was at Hinde house from about 1968 to 1974 and left after 6th form. Anyone remember Graham Laycock, Michael Hobson, The Sturrock twins?

Andrew Harrison

Hi Shaunfl

No, I didn't go to Earl Marshall - keep guessing.

I am surprised that more people aren't logged into this. I have only just got on board so perhaps I'm not the right person to be saying that.


I know Winsome Munroe who went to Earl Marshall. Do you know anything of Marilyn & Faith McFarlane, 'Big Fat' Molly, Elsie?


Keep in touch, looking forward to your next guess.

Trej

Hi Trej

I remember a Robert Munroe from Pye Bank School, I used to work with his Dad, John. I remember him telling me Robert died in the police cells. Do you remember him? I think they lived on Melrose. What about the Montagues,Richard, Frank and David, know them? lived on Rock St.
By the way I thought you may be Trevor Jones, your not are you? Rupert Wiisdom is another name that springs to mind, I remember walking home from work the morning Bob Marley died and I met up with Rupert, poor guy , he was gutted !!
Do you remember or know me ? :huh::huh:

Yes I remember Elaine Self and Cathrine Earnshaw - just. I was at Hinde house from about 1968 to 1974 and left after 6th form. Anyone remember Graham Laycock, Michael Hobson, The Sturrock twins?

Andrew Harrison

remember Elaine,Michael and the Sturrock twins but can't recall their names.

Hi Shaunfl

Good to see you are reading the post. Yes I knew Robert and the Munroe family very well. Sorry but I can't put a face to the name. I hear there was a school reunion last weekend. Did you go? Hear that there's been a few people of our age group who passed away recently. Of course you would have heard about Godfather. Might be attending the funeral. Until we speak again - keep guessing (cos I'm not Trevor).

Best regards gheto child.

Hi Shaunfl

Good to see you are reading the post. Yes I knew Robert and the Munroe family very well. Sorry but I can't put a face to the name. I hear there was a school reunion last weekend. Did you go? Hear that there's been a few people of our age group who passed away recently. Of course you would have heard about Godfather. Might be attending the funeral. Until we speak again - keep guessing (cos I'm not Trevor).

Best regards gheto child.

Hi Trej, did not go to reunion, someone usually lets me know when there is one, but not this time. The Godfather bit confused me, but a chat with George(Milton-Trunny) Morris put me in the picture. I did not know (Derek?) Godfather very well, remember seeing him in the Toll Gate a while ago, but George will be at the funeral on thursday. I worked and went clubbing etc. with Gerald Saunders for quite a long time, his was the last funeral I went to, so young !

Shaun

Hi Trej, did not go to reunion, someone usually lets me know when there is one, but not this time. The Godfather bit confused me, but a chat with George(Milton-Trunny) Morris put me in the picture. I did not know (Derek?) Godfather very well, remember seeing him in the Toll Gate a while ago, but George will be at the funeral on thursday. I worked and went clubbing etc. with Gerald Saunders for quite a long time, his was the last funeral I went to, so young !

Shaun

Hi Shaun,
where do you get to know about reunions?

F.

Hi Shaun,
where do you get to know about reunions?

F.

Hi mate, usually one of the girls lets me know through friends reunited. If I hear of any more I'll let you know.

Shaun

Hi mate, usually one of the girls lets me know through friends reunited. If I hear of any more I'll let you know.

Shaun

Thanks mate,
Funnily enough I looked on friends a couple of weeks ago to see if one was coming up but didn't see anything.

I can confirm Cliff Richard did come to Hinde House in 1973 and I was ill on the day so missed him.

I was at Hinde House in 73 cant remember Cliff being there.....

Seem to remember hearing at the time that the riot started because someone was wearing the wrong coloured socks and was sent home but refused and the riot began.Sounds implausible but knowing Edwards believeable at the same time.








i can remember the riot, we refused to leave the assembly hall one lunchtime until school uniform was abolished, then Edwards came in and everyone made a run for it, it was organised by the school council, the sit in, not the riot.

Hi, and thanks for the reply. Yes you started basically just as I had finished, and had to start at a school in Gloucestershire which was a major cultural shock (not entirely positive). I remember Miss Grigorian very well, I suppose hundreds of years ago she would have been Persian, she was quite cool. But Edwards and Turner were quite the stormtroopers I recall.

Is it true that there was a riot at Hinde House early in your time there? I heard rumour that the kids threw the chairs at the teachers on the assembly hall stage and it made the Sheffield newspaper.

Cheers.

Julian
I remember the riot, a sit in was organised by the school council in the assembly hall, everyone refused to leave, then Edwards walked in and everyone made a break for it, there was chairs flying everywhere and a couple of windows got smashed, Everyone ran through fear lol not Anarchy.

I remember Mr Moss the french teacher, and Niel Goacher who spent 2yrs "learning" french, A la maison, saint un bon bon, and avez vous un cuppa were the only phrases he knew, im sure he got the cane every lesson, the end of his cane always seemed to break off, he was seriously in danger of having someones eye out....

remember Elaine,Michael and the Sturrock twins but can't recall their names.

I can only remember 1 set of twins, wasnt Chris one of them I think, I was in same French class with mr Moss, one of the twins gave me a stink bomb and I threw it at the Blackboard, we had to stay behind until someone owned up, I thought it was the stick for me, I owned up after about 10 mins, All Mr Moss said was OK you can all go now lol....

Hello, I went to Hinde House School in 1970-74, we were the first class to go straight from Shiregreen Junior School to Hinde House and not the Senior School at Shiregrenn, that had by then become Concord School.

We actually started as 2nd year pupils and left at the end of 5th form in 1974 when I was 16.

I remember Mr Edwards very well, and he was a nasty piece of work, aboslutely terrified me even though I did't personally have any run in with him. I remember having to stand when he walked into a classroom.

I also remember the strike being one of the pupils that sort of instigated it, it started because girls wanted to option of wearing trousers in the winter as many of us had to walk through Concord Park to get to school it was very cold wearing a skirt. It then developed into a full uniform debate.

I was in Chantry House and my form tutor was Mr Eccersley who also taught French. We had Mrs Ramsden for English, Mr Humberstone for Art, Mr Webb for Physics, Mr Wainwright (my favourite teacher) for Biology, Mrs Fitzmaurice for Commerce and Office Practice, in fact Mrs Fitzmaurice and another teacher whose name I forget arrange a party at her house for us when we left school. My last two years were in an all girls class due to the course being "vocational" and including typing, shorthand, commerce and office practice ect.

I also remember speech day/prize giving at the City Hall I was in the school orchestra and we played there. The music teacher I think was Mr Whiteley and also Mrs Merryweather. There are other teachers, occasions and pupils that I remember but I don't want to waffle on for too long.

Hello, I went to Hinde House School in 1970-74, we were the first class to go straight from Shiregreen Junior School to Hinde House and not the Senior School at Shiregrenn, that had by then become Concord School.

We actually started as 2nd year pupils and left at the end of 5th form in 1974 when I was 16.

I remember Mr Edwards very well, and he was a nasty piece of work, aboslutely terrified me even though I did't personally have any run in with him. I remember having to stand when he walked into a classroom.

I also remember the strike being one of the pupils that sort of instigated it, it started because girls wanted to option of wearing trousers in the winter as many of us had to walk through Concord Park to get to school it was very cold wearing a skirt. It then developed into a full uniform debate.

I was in Chantry House and my form tutor was Mr Eccersley who also taught French. We had Mrs Ramsden for English, Mr Humberstone for Art, Mr Webb for Physics, Mr Wainwright (my favourite teacher) for Biology, Mrs Fitzmaurice for Commerce and Office Practice, in fact Mrs Fitzmaurice and another teacher whose name I forget arrange a party at her house for us when we left school. My last two years were in an all girls class due to the course being "vocational" and including typing, shorthand, commerce and office practice ect.

I also remember speech day/prize giving at the City Hall I was in the school orchestra and we played there. The music teacher I think was Mr Whiteley and also Mrs Merryweather. There are other teachers, occasions and pupils that I remember but I don't want to waffle on for too long.

Same memories as me we must have been in same class and form im Les Riley.....

No sorry the name doesn't ring a bell, how old are you? I am 53. Did you go to Hinde House from Shiregreen school? Hang on though, do you have a twin brother?

No sorry the name doesn't ring a bell, how old are you? I am 53. Did you go to Hinde House from Shiregreen school? Hang on though, do you have a twin brother?

53 also, no i came from Wincobank, no I dont have twin lol, famouse names in our year Lee Kirby, Kevin Quinn, Tommy Cocking( one of your lot), Vinny O'Grady, Sandra Black, Morgan Hartley, and you lol....

I remember Tommy Cocking and Vincent O'Grady but not any of the others.
How about Peter Keen, Richard Dickinson, Julie Benn, Diane Ball, Richard Buttery, Peter Sheldon, John Smith, Michael Hill?

I remember Tommy Cocking and Vincent O'Grady but not any of the others.
How about Peter Keen, Richard Dickinson, Julie Benn, Diane Ball, Richard Buttery, Peter Sheldon, John Smith, Michael Hill?

I remember Richard Buttery, used to play pennies with Tommy, and stretch with a pen knife, who took you for French was it Mr Moss, also school trip to Mony Ash where I caught a Trout I tickled, whats your name....

I had Mr Eccersley for French, he was also my form tutor and he ran the chess club at lunch time where I learnt to play chess.

I did not go on the trip you mentioned. My name is Denise

Mr Wainwright the Biology teacher was my favourite teacher and once on my way home from school a horse that was being ridden on the road got hit by a car and he was driving behind it and he and I helped until the police came with a vet and shot the horse.

I had Mr Eccersley for French, he was also my form tutor and he ran the chess club at lunch time where I learnt to play chess.

I did not go on the trip you mentioned. My name is Denise

Mr Wainwright the Biology teacher was my favourite teacher and once on my way home from school a horse that was being ridden on the road got hit by a car and he was driving behind it and he and I helped until the police came with a vet and shot the horse.

I remember Mr Wainright top teacher, I also remember the horse incident, I think we were in the same form but different classes, Denise also rings a bell, big school, big classes, long time ago = hazy memories.......

Mr Moss always known by us as Stanley :)

There was a woodwork teacher called Mr Manley, I had a little bit of a crush on him, I've only just remembered that.

richard buttery (chalky) died a couple of years back

richard buttery (chalky) died a couple of years back

I remember Richard nice lad....

Yes I knew Richard very well, did know he had died too such a shame. He was a good lad, really good to me.

Hello, I went to Hinde House School in 1970-74, we were the first class to go straight from Shiregreen Junior School to Hinde House and not the Senior School at Shiregrenn, that had by then become Concord School.

We actually started as 2nd year pupils and left at the end of 5th form in 1974 when I was 16.

I remember Mr Edwards very well, and he was a nasty piece of work, aboslutely terrified me even though I did't personally have any run in with him. I remember having to stand when he walked into a classroom.

I also remember the strike being one of the pupils that sort of instigated it, it started because girls wanted to option of wearing trousers in the winter as many of us had to walk through Concord Park to get to school it was very cold wearing a skirt. It then developed into a full uniform debate.

I was in Chantry House and my form tutor was Mr Eccersley who also taught French. We had Mrs Ramsden for English, Mr Humberstone for Art, Mr Webb for Physics, Mr Wainwright (my favourite teacher) for Biology, Mrs Fitzmaurice for Commerce and Office Practice, in fact Mrs Fitzmaurice and another teacher whose name I forget arrange a party at her house for us when we left school. My last two years were in an all girls class due to the course being "vocational" and including typing, shorthand, commerce and office practice ect.

I also remember speech day/prize giving at the City Hall I was in the school orchestra and we played there. The music teacher I think was Mr Whiteley and also Mrs Merryweather. There are other teachers, occasions and pupils that I remember but I don't want to waffle on for too long.

I had both Mrs Merryweather and Mr Whitely for music and Mr Wainwright science was as you said a decent bloke.
It was his class I was stuck in during the 1973 riot and remember him locking the door so we couldnt get out.
Mr Wainwright (Eric) became a friend in later years where I would visit his farm a few times a year and sometimes kip in his haybarn with my mates but we always got breakfast.
He left his farm in Wharncliffe Side several years ago probably more and went to live in Warickshire.
I was in Miss Grigorians form throughout my term 1970-75

I am making an edition of a BBC radio programme called Profile about the new Met Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe, who went to Hinde House between 1961 and 1975. It would be great to speak to anyone who remembers him – just trying to get an idea of what he was like as a child an what kind of place Hinde House was. I am on lucy.proctor@bbc.co.uk or 020 8752 6194.

I was at Hinde House between 65 and 73 but his name doesn't ring any bells as for the schools there are numerous threads about it and it's headmaster Mr Edwards on this forum.

I am making an edition of a BBC radio programme called Profile about the new Met Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe, who went to Hinde House between 1961 and 1975. It would be great to speak to anyone who remembers him – just trying to get an idea of what he was like as a child an what kind of place Hinde House was. I am on lucy.proctor@bbc.co.uk or 020 8752 6194.

I was there 69/74 never heard of him, but as darra says look at the posts on here, if he was at Hinde House in 61 he would have left around 66, if he left in 75 he didnt start till 70. So the new Met Commissioners history is a bit of a mystery, wonder how long he will last.