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DaBouncer 15-05-2003, 20:22 Take the test here and find out!! (http://www.politicalcompass.org/)
Mine say's I'm close to Ghandi's political stance! Hmmmm... who'd have thunk it!
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.15 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers DaBouncer!!!!!
i was looking for this the other day and couldnt for the life of me find it! :D
you sir are a star :)
DaBouncer 15-05-2003, 20:31 Why thank you :lol:
I am aware of this tho :wink: but still nice to hear 8)
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.82
for me
DaBouncer 15-05-2003, 20:50 So where does that sit you in the region of the famous/infamous?
the french sounding guy in the bottom left sector (near the middle)
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.49
Oops, that's the same as Nelson Mandela.
Me:
Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.23
DaBouncer 16-05-2003, 14:53 Originally posted by "Sidla"
Me:
Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.23
So where does that sit you in relation to the famous and infamous!
Near Jean Chretien, whoever he is.
Moon Maiden 16-05-2003, 15:37 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.77
Somewhere near the Dalai Lama and Ghandi??????
Domeof the questions on that quiz would be interesting discussion in here ya know.
Moon Maiden
DaBouncer 16-05-2003, 16:58 Originally posted by "Moon Maiden"
Domeof the questions on that quiz would be interesting discussion in here ya know.
Pick one or two out and we'll get talking about em then :lol:
Me, I make Ghandi and the Lama look like facists
I got something like -7 and -7
LOL
It is a good job I am not running the world because we would all be pleasant and supportive to each other and kind and NICE!
And nobody would have anything interesting to talk about on sites like these!
Phanerothyme 20-05-2003, 14:28 Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.97
Nearly up there with you louise - not an anarchosyndicalist by any chance?
Well according to that website yes, I should be one of those
A bit of research says that anarcho-syndicalists are industrial trade-union revolutionaries
I am not sure that is quite me
I mean hey, I am all for Trade Unionism, and all for workers too, but then I am also for those who have time to stand and stare
Can't I just be a socialist? or do they fit into a different square?
Originally posted by "LouiseB"
It is a good job I am not running the world because we would all be pleasant and supportive to each other and kind and NICE!
Hmm. :?:
Internetowl 20-05-2003, 14:55 I came out...
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.10
which looks like I'm just above Nelson Mandela - which was nice :)
M.
Phanerothyme 20-05-2003, 14:58 No, you can be whatever you want!
Just though that since you were even farther down the libertarian scale than me you might be an anarchist of some kind...
..seeing as I am (an anarchist of some kind).
http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libsoc.html
I think this would be me....in a world of my choosing that is, pity it aint quite like that
And it does also refer to anarchy too
This is the first time in all of these years that I ever tried to position myself on this kind of a scale, very interesting exercise
I came out:
Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 3.64
This put me around Tony Blair/ John Howard on the graph of world figures.
Originally posted by "LouiseB"
It is a good job I am not running the world because we would all be pleasant and supportive to each other and kind and NICE!
yeah, that and in a state of economic collapse
Economic left/right:-5.00
Authoritarian/libertarian:2.26
Blimey I must be a lefty!!!
waxy chuff 27-05-2003, 08:54 Jesus. I am a liberal leftie after all.
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.92
did the test again. this time came out a bit more economically right, and very slightly less authoritarian.
Economic Left/Right: 4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 3.38
As politics means big business on SF I thought id post this:
www.politicalcompass.org
Politically I lay around dead center, with slight (1.2 each way) left libertairan leanings and pretty much in the same place (slightly closer to the center mind) to Jean Chretien.
Left/Right: -6.2
Libetarian/Authoritarian: -4
Given that I am broadly in favour of the principles of capitalism and global trade I think it is perhaps suprising that I am considered to be half way to being a communist! I guess my belief that business simply can't be trusted to act in the interest of society and therefore requires a degree of government control (e.g. environmental laws) has somewhat coloured the results.
I took the test again and got:
Economic Left/Right: -1.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56
Spacehopper 13-10-2003, 23:35 8) Nah Den Ace..........
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
I think I'm somewhere between Jean Chretien and the Dalai Lama! Does that make me a "bleeding heart, do-'good', wishy washy liberal"? ;)
Regards,
Spacehopper.
:o
A moderator not using the search feature.... shame on you.
(edit: thread now merged, well spotted John ;) - Geoff)
:o
It'd be good to see how peoples political views have changed since then though... :)
purplepippa 14-10-2003, 00:12 Ummm I don't think anyone will br surprised...
Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59
So basically the bottom left hand corner.
But having scrolled down and seen that Pope John Paul is on the left, I'm tempted to dismiss the whole test:loopy: :nono:
Phanerothyme 14-10-2003, 00:42 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.56
further left and libertarian than last time -
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.97
They've changed some of the questions since the last time I did it. Looks like I've swayed to the right a little on the Economic scale.
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03
MichaelTravis 14-10-2003, 13:47 Mine is a secret. You have to keep people guessing a bit, don't you?
Phanerothyme 14-10-2003, 16:25 Originally posted by purplepippa
Ummm I don't think anyone will br surprised...
Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59
So basically the bottom left hand corner.
But having scrolled down and seen that Pope John Paul is on the left, I'm tempted to dismiss the whole test:loopy: :nono:
read the background info on the test. all will become clear - left and right do not have the same meanings as you think, possibly.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -9.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92
I must be feeling even more of an anarchist than usual today, hey Phan
(in the "libertarian" sense of the word that is)
One more go at this and I might end up going left off the chart altogether, what would it take?
-10 and -10?
alchresearch 14-10-2003, 20:03 I found the test all rather vague, considering the number of questions there were.
I was expecting it to be more targeted and to say that I had the same political leanings as "such and such" rather than that odd graph.
Carlwarker 15-10-2003, 17:12 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.72
It is quite obviously a very limited and skewed test, being as DB and I have almost the same result, but, it seems from our posts, that we have quite different 'views' on most things.
Hardly a 'standard' for forming, or belonging to a political party!
My political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.92
A little less Authoritarian than Pope John Paul II, but more towards the left
Am I still a Rightwing Liberal :?
Carlwarker 15-10-2003, 18:23 Originally posted by MichaelTravis
Mine is a secret. You have to keep people guessing a bit, don't you?
Why? That's often a subterfuge when you've got something to hide.:)
Phanerothyme 15-10-2003, 19:02 Originally posted by Carlwarker
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.72
It is quite obviously a very limited and skewed test, being as DB and I have almost the same result, but, it seems from our posts, that we have quite different 'views' on most things.
Hardly a 'standard' for forming, or belonging to a political party!
It's a huge improvement on saying someone is left or right wing though, as the site points out, those references are now virtually meaningless.
They have also kept their algorithms secret, so it is a bit difficult (short of reverse engineering the test - any volunteers?) to work out how the scores are formulated.
Carlwarker 15-10-2003, 19:20 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
It's a huge improvement on saying someone is left or right wing though, as the site points out, those references are now virtually meaningless...
And if you take the example above, of DB's and my 'scores' (from only the limited sample of results of members postings), then, I still maintain my position. Views, when expressed honestly, are an extension of feelings and beliefs, so any 'test' that gives similar results for persons with quite widely different opinions, is flawed.
And to put Gandhi and Mandela in the same group - well...
Like many, I want to vote but don't take enough of general politics in, in order to know who to vote for......
great site
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass
click on take the test.
This shows you a nifty graph of where you are biased towards on a left-right, authoratarian-liberal scale and shows where famous politicans and major parties are plotted so you can compare.
Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
I guess that makes me officially not a leftie pinko do-gooder :D
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.08
That's what it said for me :D
Originally posted by Tony
Economic Left/Right: 1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
I guess that makes me officially not a leftie pinko do-gooder :D
It makes you a lefty on social issues.
Phanerothyme 30-05-2004, 14:42 Originally posted by t020
It makes you a lefty on social issues.
What did you make of the explantation on the site t020, - with regard to the usage of 'left' and 'right' in politics?
Originally posted by t020
I came out:
Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 3.64
This put me around Tony Blair/ John Howard on the graph of world figures.
Almost exactly a year on, and I am now:
Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.38
A very, very slight shift to the left on social issues then, probably due to the forum influence.
Originally posted by t020
It makes you a lefty on social issues.
Errr.. no I don't think that it does. It makes me a right of centre libertarian, which basically means 'each man for himself' hehe.
Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74
On the economics front that's a lot less left than I thought I'd be, but that's about as expected on the social side of things...
Originally posted by Tony
Errr.. no I don't think that it does. It makes me a right of centre libertarian, which basically means 'each man for himself' hehe.
No it doesn't. I think you're mis-reading it. It has a negative value for the social scale which is left of centre.
evildrneil 30-05-2004, 17:23 Fraid not - the two axes are left/right and libertarian/autharitarian!
Mosherchik 30-05-2004, 17:23 Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46
Loitering around the Nelson Mandela, Dalai Lama mark
evildrneil 30-05-2004, 17:25 I was scarilly MUCH more extreme - though I think that the questions are actually slanted to give and extreme response!
Originally posted by evildrneil
Fraid not - the two axes are left/right and libertarian/autharitarian!
Yes exactly, making Tony a libertarian (lefty) not authoritarian (righty).
evildrneil 30-05-2004, 17:37 I thought Tony was down as right wing autharitarian???
I think that you don't quite have the meaning of libertarian correct. Personal liberty basically means letting peple get on with things instead of telling them what to do. The extreme of this is anarchy! :evil:
Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95
Apparrently slightly to the liberal side of the Dalai Lama. right on, right on.
*Twinkle* 31-05-2004, 20:17 Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
That's me :)
Would someone be so kind as to tell me what this means in simple terms... Basically what I'm meant to stand up for etc? I've answered all the questions truthfully, I just don't know what they mean when they say I'm a -0.75 Libertarian/authoritarian?!?
slimsid2000 01-06-2004, 14:24 It says I am Economic Left/Right: 2.62 and Social Liberterian/Authoritarian: 0.46
I am not sure what that means in reality. Can anyone explain it to me?
Bascically you lay to the small right wing element of politics on Economic issues, and are a very very very slight Authoritarian in social issues.
qazitory 01-06-2004, 14:57 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
Not sure what that means thou?
Ive just done it again:
Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
I was:
Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.82
PuressenceUK 01-06-2004, 15:08 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.95
I'm somewhere between The Pope and Stalin.
Very interesting test that one.
*Twinkle* 02-06-2004, 09:09 Originally posted by caprice
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
That's me :)
Would someone be so kind as to tell me what this means in simple terms... Basically what I'm meant to stand up for etc? I've answered all the questions truthfully, I just don't know what they mean when they say I'm a -0.75 Libertarian/authoritarian?!?
Help!!!! I still don't know what I am, politically!!! I have kind of gathered I'm not an extremist from the almost central position on the grid, but what on earth does it mean?! Please help someone!
After my "Lambasting" the other day on the BNP thread.
I took the test.
Right left = -3.62
Up Down = 0.92
Closest person = Pope John Paul ? ? ?
Almost identical to Abdul's score, who was one of the few people who spoke any common sense on the BNP thread.
I'll wear my Halo with Pride.
evildrneil 03-06-2004, 12:11 What lambasting???? You were simply asked a question (why are the BNP on the right track) which you (or anyone else for that matter) singularly failed to answer!
Didn't want to give away any secrets, in case GCHQ were monitoring.
I certainly got some strange e-mails though? ? ?
Ned Ludd 03-06-2004, 16:11 Fascinating. I have copied all the results so far, for future reference, to be hurled back at you when appropriate:D
(Is this being a wee bit authoritarian?)
I wonder if there are any local Stalin/Hitlers out there who will own up?
Aha!
I brilliant reason not to explain yourself in any way. The government might be listening. Must remember that one...
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41
I have no time for politics generally anyway. I also don't vote.
noseyrosie 03-06-2004, 16:58 Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05
It seems that anybody in the bottom left sector has said 'I'm closest to, umm, Ghandi/The Dalai Llama'. Seeing as they're the only two in that sector, that's not too explanatory is it really. My coordinates were almost bang on with the middle of those two...on second thought a bit 'further out' in the south-west direction...
evildrneil 03-06-2004, 17:27 Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
EEEEEK! Far more extreme than I would have thought - I always thought I was fairly moderate!
Hi, this is an interesting test, takes a few minutes to do but worth it. It works out where you sit politically.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Click "take the test" in the top left corner.
I did this test about 3 years ago when at uni and I was right down the bottom left, since that time I have got a job and a house etc. I now sit much further up and across (near such far right extremists as nelson mandella :hihi: ) This worries me! :|
Phanerothyme 18-05-2005, 23:07 this (http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/enParties.gif) was an interesting analysis.
My score -
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.97
pretty much nailed my voting intentions....
Just done it for the first time (could someone explain the score to me - me being a bit thick like)?
Economic left/right -4.13
Social libertarian/authoritarian -2.05
Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13
I can't argue with that - though according to the chart, I seem to be positioned squarely on Ghandi's head, which he may find a little annoying.
Originally posted by DaBouncer
Take the test here and find out!! (http://www.politicalcompass.org/)
Mine say's I'm close to Ghandi's political stance! Hmmmm... who'd have thunk it!
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.15 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Looks like I'm with you on this one!
Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03
StarSparkle 19-05-2005, 20:21 All I can say is 'Wow!'
Libertarian Left
Economic Left/Right -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -2.77
StarSparkle :o
Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.46
This is sort of right for me though I would have expected myself to be a little more Authoritarin...:)
Joe
redrobbo 19-05-2005, 22:36 Originally posted by JoePritchard
Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.46
This is sort of right for me though I would have expected myself to be a little more Authoritarin...:)
Joe
You could always ban a few more forummers for practise Joe! :heyhey:
My political compass says I like to move in political circles.
Whereas Tony Blair's political compass is just broken. "Go West my son," booms the stentorian voice of his socialist heritage. "Okay," squeaks Tony. Later: "ooh, that looks like the Norfolk Broads to me. Where next?"
Originally posted by Hels
Just done it for the first time (could someone explain the score to me - me being a bit thick like)?
Economic left/right -4.13
Social libertarian/authoritarian -2.05
Theres a big explanation on the website about what it all means...
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.72
That places me firmly in Libertarian Left, somewhere between Nelson Mandela and The Dalai Lama.
Phanerothyme 12-01-2006, 10:40 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.97
Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69
Hmm I've drifted down and to the left since 20-05-2003
In May 2005 I was :
Originally posted by JoeP
Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.46
This is sort of right for me though I would have expected myself to be a little more Authoritarin...:)
Joe
In January 2006 I am :
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.15
In other words, heading rightwards and becoming more authoritarian!
Yes! Power DOES corrupt!
Joe
I'm quite proud of mine:
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.26
A just left of centre approach!
AtticusFinch 12-01-2006, 11:02 Mine is:
Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95
I'm almost the same position as the Dalai Lama. :)
katy1981 12-01-2006, 11:13 heres mine
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05
Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
Hmm, somewhere around the Dalai Lama.
From memory, I have become more liberal since last year. I'm on my way to anarchy it would seem. :D
Preacher Man 12-01-2006, 12:37 Economic Left/Right: -7.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56
hmm some of the questions would have brought me to the right more when maybe they shouldnt...
ToryCynic 12-01-2006, 12:42 I come out as a liberal progressive Indy-reader - which I'm not ;) [I always do on these things]
Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.41
Right on the 'Left' axis 50% across.
:| :| :| :|
shoeshine 12-01-2006, 12:57 Here's mine
Economic Left/Right -5.38
Social Libertarian/ Authoritarian 1.38
Where does that place me, please explain...I am a bit thick?
koenigsinger 12-01-2006, 13:01 Economically I am about level with ghandi, but I'm slightly more of a libertarian :)
suits me fine :clap:
Here's mine:
Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67
Shoeshine, you're just about in the Authoritarian Left.
economic left/right -8.38
social libertarian/authoritarian -5.13
raving liberal lefty by the look of it
shoeshine 12-01-2006, 13:29 Originally posted by ppn_2204
Shoeshine, you're just about in the Authoritarian Left.
That makes me OK as a grandad then, bit strict but daft with money :)
Originally posted by shoeshine
That makes me OK as a grandad then, bit strict but daft with money :)
Actually, I should refine that by saying that you're about in the middle of the 'Left' section, and just about in the 'Authoritarian' section. So a Lefty who's a bit Authoritarian too :).
scaramanga 12-01-2006, 13:34 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28
I think that makes me the anti-hitler, which cant be all that bad!
limpetboy 12-01-2006, 13:39 Economic Left/Right -2.13
Social Authoritarian/Libertarian - -4.31
Same quadrant as Ghandi and the Dalai Lama only less Left and less Libertarian.
Well there you go.
shoeshine 12-01-2006, 13:39 Originally posted by ppn_2204
Actually, I should refine that by saying that you're about in the middle of the 'Left' section, and just about in the 'Authoritarian' section. So a Lefty who's a bit Authoritarian too :).
Always been a leftie at heart (oops I shouldn't have let that slip), with out-dated views on some elements of "modern" life.
That about describes me perfectly.:)
dirtybobby 12-01-2006, 14:03 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.21
so what does that actually mean? if it's suggesting i'm dead centre, i'm a little surprised.. as preacher man and risco will tell you, it's a running joke in our house that i'm a borderline nazi* lol..
* = perhaps nazi is a little strong.. i read the daily star & have a conservative upbringing lol
dirtybobby 12-01-2006, 14:05 Originally posted by Preacher Man
Economic Left/Right: -7.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56
lol i should have known you'd be almost fully left, you hippy!
<neil> vegetable rights and peace! </neil>
Guest_225 12-01-2006, 14:33 These polls are always meaningless.
I come out somewhere round Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama and Ghandi which might make me feel good about myself, but no way do i have the same courage of conviction as those three
Originally posted by dirtybobby
lol i should have known you'd be almost fully left, you hippy!
<neil> vegetable rights and peace! </neil>
Be careful, he might throw his sandals at you!
StarSparkle 12-01-2006, 15:27 Originally posted by StarSparkle
All I can say is 'Wow!'
Libertarian Left
Economic Left/Right -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -2.77
StarSparkle :o
Not much change in the last year :)
Libertarian Left
Economic Left/Right -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -2.05
Sounds about right :D
StarSparkle
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54
does this mean I'm good or evil? lol looks like I'm near Mandela and Dali Larma? :?
Greybeard 12-01-2006, 15:52 Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.95
How come Bush and Blair are classed as Neo-Liberals, shouldn't that be Psuedo-Liberals ?
This is me now...
Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.21
A little more left than before but pretty much the same. Maybe I didn't understand some of the questions last time I read it. :loopy:
Phanerothyme 12-01-2006, 18:14 Originally posted by PottShrigley
These polls are always meaningless.
I come out somewhere round Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama and Ghandi which might make me feel good about myself, but no way do i have the same courage of conviction as those three
It's not a measure of courage of convictions though. It's a carefully constructed set of loaded questions to which it is impossible to reply other than for or against.
It's not to make you feel good about yourself.
There is a lot of information on the site itself that will illuminate, for those posters who still don't know the meaning of their results.
The historical personages are placed in the grid, not because they have taken the test, but because their action and opinions are a matter of public record.
TheRedWizard 12-01-2006, 18:59 Eeeeek!
Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.51
T
A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
================
What kind of question is this?
The obvious answer is Agree, but if it was a one party state it wouldn’t be democratic.
You just can not answer some questions with yes or no.
Or is there some hidden metaphor and I’m to dim to get it?
Phanerothyme 12-01-2006, 21:35 Originally posted by coyleys
A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
================
What kind of question is this?
The obvious answer is Agree, but if it was a one party state it wouldn’t be democratic.
You just can not answer some questions with yes or no.
Or is there some hidden metaphor and I’m to dim to get it?
It doesn't mention a democratic state.
I'd say that that is a significant, if not the only, advantage of a one party state.
The fact that there is no "neither agree nor disagree" option is completely deliberate. It's forcing you to take a stance.
Cliff Clavin 12-01-2006, 21:51 Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15
Does that sound right?:suspect:
Preacher Man 12-01-2006, 22:10 Originally posted by Andy78
Be careful, he might throw his sandals at you!
whats wrong with sandles?? :suspect: :hihi:
Originally posted by Preacher Man
whats wrong with sandles?? :suspect: :hihi:
Nothing! I have a very comfortable pair myself. In summer, I wear them without fear of attack. In this wonderful land known as sheffield. :D
Re-incarnation is true. I am Mahatma Gandhi. I've just decided to do it with a bit more ambivalence towards sex and intoxicants this time, and maybe without so much love in my heart. But my intentions are pretty much the same, I'm just hoping other people are willing and able make it happen. They'll have my full moral support.
Time to reactivate this interesting thread, as the site has been updated and some of the questions revised.
Here's the link again:
http://www.politicalcompass.org
My score is:
Left-Right -5.88
Libertarian-Authoritarian -5.08
Phanerothyme 12-07-2007, 13:25 Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69
Hmm I've drifted down and to the left since 20-05-2003
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.56
Argh. This mind has lurched to the right (almost an eighth of a point)
Alastair 12-07-2007, 13:33 This is an ancient thread, resrrected from 2003!
As I recall the questionnaire asked quite a few different questions back then.
The questionnaire was used on a more recent thread here -
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=235243&page=2
Danny_Boy 12-07-2007, 13:55 Economic Left/Right: 0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36
Eco left/right -2.25
Auth/lib -2.31
Cannot be right score for me. I used to fancy Maggie
slimsid2000 12-07-2007, 14:18 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05
Not sure what this means though.
Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08
The Dalai Lama.(Really?):huh:
Two years after I last took the test, I'm still:
Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28
Right on Gandhi's head.
back2basics 12-07-2007, 16:32 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18
Phanerothyme 12-07-2007, 16:34 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05
Not sure what this means though.
it means your a confused centrist with no ideology (which is a good thing in this day and age, you could be PM)
StarSparkle 12-07-2007, 18:14 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05
Not sure what this means though.
You're a floating voter? ie have no real opinions or views
StarSparkle
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05
Not sure what this means though.
You're a must-have person for the focus groups of all the political parties and polling organisations. You could replace Essex Man and Worcester Woman as the nation's political bell-wether. The nation's policies would be shaped by the slimsid factor. :help: :D
RozeePozee 23-07-2007, 19:57 Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87
According to this website we need a political compass test because the 'right' and 'left', seating arrangement of the French National Assembly of 1789, is overly simplistic for today's complex political landscape. eg., who's 'conservatives' in today's Russia? Are they the unreconstructed Stalinists, or the reformers who have adopted the right-wing views of conservatives like Margaret Thatcher ?
On the standard left-right scale, how do you distinguish leftists like Stalin and Gandhi? It's not sufficient to say that Stalin was simply more left than Gandhi. There are fundamental political differences between them that the old categories on their own can't explain. Similarly, we generally describe social reactionaries as 'right-wingers', yet that leaves left-wing reactionaries like Robert Mugabe and Pol Pot off the hook.
To find out where you are on the political spectrum choose the response that best describes your feeling: Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Agree or Strongly Agree. On concluding the test, you'll be given the compass, with your own special position on it.
It's entirely anonymous, doesnt require or retain any of your personal details and your result is not recorded or logged. Your answers are only used to calculate your reading, and cannot be accessed by anyone, ever.
It was developed by a political journalist with a university counselling background, assisted by a professor of social history. They're indebted to people like Wilhelm Reich and Theodor Adorno for their ground-breaking work in this field. It will help you get a better idea of where they stand politically and the sort of political company they keep.
There's no right, wrong or ideal response. It's just a measure of attitudes and inevitable human contradictions to provide a more integrated definition of where you are really at.
To start the test go Political Compass Test (http://www.politicalcompass.org/)
Greybeard 22-08-2007, 21:18 Stalin was a 'leftie' ?
Not a particularly liberal or do-goody one from my recollection :hihi:
Stalin was a 'leftie' ?
Not a particularly liberal or do-goody one from my recollection :hihi:
As a communist (of a fashion), he's automatically left-wing, and that rather proves the point.
Never mind them, this Political Test is really interesting in what it reveals to you ABOUT YOU
Never mind them, this Political Test is really interesting in what it reveals to you ABOUT YOU
How is taking a test POSSIBLY going to reveal anything to me about what my political beliefs are? I have to tell the computer what they are while taking the test!
How is taking a test POSSIBLY going to reveal anything to me about what my political beliefs are? I have to tell the computer what they are while taking the test!
It's not the flaming computer that reveals anything to you about your political beliefs. The questions were carefully designed and from what I've seen it's pretty accurate. :P
I'm right there with Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama and Ghandi.
Now, where to start.............
Phanerothyme 22-08-2007, 22:12 some of us have been consulting the political compass for some time.
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1023&highlight=political+compass
It's not the flaming computer that reveals anything to you about your political beliefs. The questions were carefully designed and from what I've seen it's pretty accurate. :P
A test which asks me what my political beliefs are, and then tells me what my political beliefs are, is accurate?
Why am I not surprised?
Mod note: Threads merged.
Phanerothyme 22-08-2007, 22:43 A test which asks me what my political beliefs are, and then tells me what my political beliefs are, is accurate?
Why am I not surprised?
Because you know everything and therefore lack any capacity for surprise? Who knows. Who cares?
andrewchase 22-08-2007, 22:59 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.95
Centre right. much what I expected.
VaporDave 23-08-2007, 00:00 Slightly closer to the Dalai Lama than Ghandi, taller than both of them tho.
Beakerzoid 23-08-2007, 08:56 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10
Pretty much what every other test like this I've took has said, and exactly what I expected.
johnbradley 23-08-2007, 09:20 Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
pretty much the same as the last time i did this...:)
katy1981 23-08-2007, 09:59 well heres mine but i have absolutely no idea what it means as im not into politics :(
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
I get more left wing the older I get. Its supposed to be other way around isn't it?
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13
Dungbeetle 23-08-2007, 12:28 I'm rather surprised.
Economic 1.0
Auth 4.82
I must now consider myself to be a limp-wristed almost-lefty tosspot!
Dungbeetle 23-08-2007, 12:33 My God, having scanned through this thread and the results people are listing - welcome all to the communist state otherwise known as SF!
Much is explained knowing there are so many loony lefties on SF.
My God, having scanned through this thread and the results people are listing - welcome all to the communist state otherwise known as SF!
Much is explained knowing there are so many loony lefties on SF.
Much better to be a "Loony lefty" than a Daily Mail reading racist, benefit claimant hating bigot!
Ring any bells mate?
Dungbeetle 23-08-2007, 13:04 Much better to be a "Loony lefty" than a Daily Mail reading racist, benefit claimant hating bigot!
Ring any bells mate?Yes, but for one omission - I'm not your mate.
You don't have any - remember??
Much better to be a "Loony lefty" than a Daily Mail reading racist, benefit claimant hating bigot!
Ring any bells mate?
Extremes are extremes.
If you're firmly rooted at either end of the spectrum then your opinions can be nothing other than unbalanced. Guess how I scored. :D
Economic Left/Right: -4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41
How strange, what does it all mean?
Rivelin6 23-08-2007, 13:24 Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.49
Oops, that's the same as Nelson Mandela.
Me too
Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49
Economic Left/Right: -4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41
How strange, what doe it all mean?
Economically it tells us that you work but don't own your own business and aren't a senior manager (although you may be a skilled professional). Whilst you are not a management hater you believe a lot of managers are incompetent. You don't like big business because you believe they exploit, are often corrupt and greedy. You are probably doing OK financially yourself but believe you should be earning more money.
Socially it tells us that you are not a particularly religious person and generally have a 'live and let live' attitude. Having said that, you do not have much time for those who take advantage and abuse our liberal society. You are fed up with rising crime and want something done about the growing gang culture. You think that society needs to be tougher on the young, demand more respect and that prison sentences are too soft.
You are normally a Labour voter but feel let down by this government and deciding who to vote for isn't as easy as it used to be.
Am I right?!?!?
Economically it tells us that you work but don't own your own business and aren't a senior manager (although you may be a skilled professional). Whilst you are not a management hater you believe a lot of managers are incompetent. You don't like big business because you believe they exploit, are often corrupt and greedy. You are probably doing OK financially yourself but believe you should be earning more money.
Socially it tells us that you are not a particularly religious person and generally have a 'live and let live' attitude. Having said that, you do not have much time for those who take advantage and abuse our liberal society. You are fed up with rising crime and want something done about the growing gang culture. You think that society needs to be tougher on the young, demand more respect and that prison sentences are too soft.
You are normally a Labour voter but feel let down by this government and deciding who to vote for isn't as easy as it used to be.
Am I right?!?!?
BLOODY HELL!
:suspect:...do you work for the government?
BlankFrack 23-08-2007, 13:48 Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08
Have you noticed that the left-leaning folks tend to be nicer, more intelligent and a bit more devilishly handsome/pretty than the twisted, imbecilic gargoyles on the right? :P
Dungbeetle 23-08-2007, 16:12 Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08
Have you noticed that the left-leaning folks tend to be nicer, more intelligent and a bit more devilishly handsome/pretty than the twisted, imbecilic gargoyles on the right? :PIf the lefties are brighter, how come they tend to remain lower down the social ladder?
Admittedly there may be a few pseudo-intellectual Guardian readers who think their degree in philosophy, English or childcare is worth something, but the average lefty struggles with the more complex editorials in his beloved Daily Mirror, as he munches on his fish and chips in his grease-stained overalls – assuming, that is, that he actually works at all.
RozeePozee 23-08-2007, 19:49 Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87Well, Dung, my friend, I can certainly confirm BlankFrack's point of view. I know my profile says I'm in Hunters Bar but I'm just being coy and live in Ranmoor and I'm pretty and intelligent.... As for the tabloids, since I never read them, I didn't think any of them had any news, let alone left wing news.
Dungbeetle 24-08-2007, 10:49 Well, Dung, my friend, I can certainly confirm BlankFrack's point of view. I know my profile says I'm in Hunters Bar but I'm just being coy and live in Ranmoor and I'm pretty and intelligent.... As for the tabloids, since I never read them, I didn't think any of them had any news, let alone left wing news.If you live in Ranmoor and claim to have left wing ideals, you have just established yourself to be a hypocrite. Otherwise, if you actually had faith in those leftist views, you would surrender much of your worldy goods to the poor of this world and move down to a cheaper area.
There is no such thing a genuinely intelligent, successful, affluent left-winger. Such people have deluded, confused ideals.
Phanerothyme 24-08-2007, 10:54 It's Bartfarst's mini-me!
carmencarter 24-08-2007, 11:06 Economic: left/right : -5.63
Social: libertarian/ authoritarian: -2.31
Nearly the same as Ghandi hi hi.
RozeePozee 25-08-2007, 08:23 If you live in Ranmoor and claim to have left wing ideals, you have just established yourself to be a hypocrite. Otherwise, if you actually had faith in those leftist views, you would surrender much of your worldy goods to the poor of this world and move down to a cheaper area.
There is no such thing a genuinely intelligent, successful, affluent left-winger. Such people have deluded, confused ideals.:hihi::hihi::hihi:[she shuffles off to sell her worldly possessions and live in a cave]
Mine says Eco. left / right -1.63
social lib/ auth 0.56
so whats that make me then ???? behave !!!!!! :D:D
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 10:23 :hihi::hihi::hihi:[she shuffles off to sell her worldly possessions and live in a cave]A predictably un-challenging response my dear - because we both know there is no retort you could come back with to that one.
StarSparkle 25-08-2007, 10:45 Mine says Eco. left / right -1.63
social lib/ auth 0.56
so whats that make me then ???? behave !!!!!! :D:D
I'd say that makes you a floating voter, a middle-of-the-road political type, not really interested in politics?
StarSparkle :)
StarSparkle 25-08-2007, 10:48 Me too
Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49
Goodness! Someone who's nearly as left-wing economically as me! Good on you, Rivelin6
StarSparkle
StarSparkle 25-08-2007, 10:53 Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08
Have you noticed that the left-leaning folks tend to be nicer, more intelligent and a bit more devilishly handsome/pretty than the twisted, imbecilic gargoyles on the right? :P
That's always been the case though.
Right-wingers tend to be hard-of-thinking neanderthals who have more difficulty than they can handle dragging their knuckles along the ground, grunting as they go, their only pleasure in life thinking about who they're going to hit over the head with a big cudgel next :D
StarSparkle
A predictably un-challenging response my dear - because we both know there is no retort you could come back with to that one.
Some time ago Tony requested that you lay off the abuse.
In the last week you've shown yourself to be unable or unwilling to do this - several members have have had to tolerate your comments.
Please stop the abuse.
dennistowler 25-08-2007, 10:57 Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74
StarSparkle 25-08-2007, 10:57 If the lefties are brighter, how come they tend to remain lower down the social ladder?
Admittedly there may be a few pseudo-intellectual Guardian readers who think their degree in philosophy, English or childcare is worth something, but the average lefty struggles with the more complex editorials in his beloved Daily Mirror, as he munches on his fish and chips in his grease-stained overalls – assuming, that is, that he actually works at all.
Perhaps because they're not motivated by personal greed and avarice? Because they're nice people who care about others having a decent life as well as themselves? Because they know the spiritual side of life is vastly more important than the materialistic? I could go on, but I'm sure you get the picture.
I know I said I wasn't going to talk to you any more, DungFarst, before you point it out in a loud voice, but I thought it was important to say the above
StarSparkle
sTaGeWaLkEr 25-08-2007, 10:59 Mod note: Dungbeetle, quit with the trolling and winding up of other users. It's not big, funny or clever - and you know where it gets you.
Consider this a friendly warning.
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 11:02 Perhaps because they're not motivated by personal greed and avarice? Because they're nice people who care about others having a decent life as well as themselves? Because they know the spiritual side of life is vastly more important than the materialistic? I could go on, but I'm sure you get the picture.There are plenty of nice, successful people, and their are plenty of unpleasant, unsuccessful people. The fact remains that smarter people tend with little variation to be more successful than untalented people, and do not thereafter have to justify their lack of success.
There are plenty of nice, successful people, and their are plenty of unpleasant, unsuccessful people. The fact remains that smarter people tend with little variation to be more successful than untalented people, and do not thereafter have to justify their lack of success.
The tendency however is the other way round however.
Contrast Care workers paid just above the minimum wage, with merchant bankers raking in millions of pounds of bonuses for making investments at any cost whether that be arms deals or factories with oppressive working conditions in third world countries.
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 12:08 Mod note: Dungbeetle, quit with the trolling and winding up of other users. It's not big, funny or clever - and you know where it gets you.
Consider this a friendly warning.What I consider stating a viewpoint, you may consider to be trolling. I believe that's because I'm less constrained by unnecessary soft-headed sensibilities than some of our left-biased posters.
Many of the hand-wringing liberal do-gooders simply cannot get their limited vision around the concept of somebody having a view which differs from theirs – and so they cry troll, or believe they’re being wound up.
We’ve seen a remarkable left-wing bias on the Political Compass thread – I knew that SF was a lefty haven, but to be frank I’ve been amazed by the proportion of left-wingers, and just how extremely left wing they are. As a result I, just a little right of centre, am viewed as some fascist extremist, when I’m nothing of the sort.
I have neither trolled nor set out to wind people up; unfortunately some people just let themselves be wound up by any views that counter their own, and react badly to comments far less cutting than the ones they make themselves.
If you have a problem with that, you can decide whether to apply you newfound godly mod powers (the ones you said you’d never take up) and ban me for being honest.
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 12:11 The tendency however is the other way round however.
Contrast Care workers paid just above the minimum wage, with merchant bankers raking in millions of pounds of bonuses for making investments at any cost whether that be arms deals or factories with oppressive working conditions in third world countries.
You pick one example, there are others.
Contrast a small time drug dealer with a paediatric surgeon
Contrast an embittered labourer with a head teacher
We could both create long lists, but they would be meaningless.
melthebell 25-08-2007, 12:12 What I consider stating a viewpoint, you may consider to be trolling. I believe that's because I'm less constrained by unnecessary soft-headed sensibilities than some of our left-biased posters.
Many of the hand-wringing liberal do-gooders simply cannot get their limited vision around the concept of somebody having a view which differs from theirs – and so they cry troll, or believe they’re being wound up.
We’ve seen a remarkable left-wing bias on the Political Compass thread – I knew that SF was a lefty haven, but to be frank I’ve been amazed by the proportion of left-wingers, and just how extremely left wing they are. As a result I, just a little right of centre, am viewed as some fascist extremist, when I’m nothing of the sort.
I have neither trolled nor set out to wind people up; unfortunately some people just let themselves be wound up by any views that counter their own, and react badly to comments far less cutting than the ones they make themselves.
If you have a problem with that, you can decide whether to apply you newfound godly mod powers (the ones you said you’d never take up) and ban me for being honest.
i was gonna reply to this post but i cant, all i can do is.....LOOOOL
oh and its possibly goodnight vienna
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 12:13 i was gonna reply to this post but i cant, all i can do is.....LOOOOL
oh and its possibly goodnight vienna
Perhaps Mel, but at least I'm willing to be honest about it.
melthebell 25-08-2007, 12:15 Perhaps Mel, but at least I'm willing to be honest about it.
honest?
i think the just slightly right of centre bit was a bit of a fib
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 12:16 honest?
i think the just slightly right of centre bit was a bit of a fibNo, straight up - I came out at +1.00 economic and +4.82 authoritarian on the test, and answered it as openly as I could.
I have strong views on some specific areas, but overall I'm just a big softy.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: +2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: +4.46
You pick one example, there are others.
Contrast a small time drug dealer with a paediatric surgeon
Contrast an embittered labourer with a head teacher
We could both create long lists, but they would be meaningless.
Your first counter example relies on using someone at the bottom of their "profession". It would be better to consider the top of the profession so contrast an international drug dealer with a highly paid doctor.... who is paid more ?
Your second example relies on adding in "embittered". there is nothing wrong with being a labourer without that adjective. The comparision is again artificial.
Whilst there are ethical investment banks like the the Co-op, they do not have the same returns as banks with unethical investment policies. The economic demands of the system, free trade economics, and employees who have to scrape by trying to make their low wages go as far as they can all reinforce the demands on companies to ignore ethics to maximise profits. Employees who realise that and are prepared to make unethical decisions are the ones that get promoted, shareholders like them the most, because they maximise the returns on their investments. The principle extends throughout the workplace. Of course there are exceptions, but the higher up you get the less exceptions there are.
No, straight up - I came out at +1.00 economic and +4.82 authoritarian on the test, and answered it as openly as I could.
I have strong views on some specific areas, but overall I'm just a big softy.
Dungbeetles are all soft and squidgy underneath the hard exterior. Perhaps you should show the real you and your soft side more often in your posts.
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 12:41 Employees who realise that and are prepared to make unethical decisions are the ones that get promoted, shareholders like them the most, because they maximise the returns on their investments. The principle extends throughout the workplace. Of course there are exceptions, but the higher up you get the less exceptions there are.Perhaps you should base your views of corporate life on something other than films like Wall street.
Most big corporations are very switched-on now to conservation and world ethics - if only because shareholders actually like that sort of thing.
The fact remains that successful people sipping pink gins at the yacht club tend to have views tending up and right on the graph, people who sit in the works canteen with a pack of Embassy mostly have views down and left; and those views are fed by the politics of envy, almost invariably.
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 12:41 Dungbeetles are all soft and squidgy underneath the hard exterior. Perhaps you should show the real you and your soft side more often in your posts.I do, when it's appropriate.
Perhaps you should base your views of corporate life on something other than films like Wall street.
Most big corporations are very switched-on now to conservation and world ethics - if only because shareholders actually like that sort of thing.
The fact remains that successful people sipping pink gins at the yacht club tend to have views tending up and right on the graph, people who sit in the works canteen with a pack of Embassy mostly have views down and left; and those views are fed by the politics of envy, almost invariably.
Big companies know that we like to see the image of a caring company, but it is superficial. For example, compare what Esso says (http://www.exxonmobil.co.uk/UK-English/Responsibility/UK_CorpResp.asp) with what it does (http://www.corporatewatch.org.uk/?lid=295). They have derecognised their unions, cut middle management resulting in workers deaths at Longford natural gas processing plant. They have a sorry record, not untypical of the industry. But they still buy in to the Corporate Responsibility logo, because they know most consumers don't look beneath the surface of the glossy advertising.
My politics have nothing to do with envy, they are based on principles of equality and fraternity.
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 13:13 Big companies know that we like to see the image of a caring company, but it is superficial. For example, .As it happens, I worked for Mobil between 1988 and 1991 before it withdrew most of its UK operation and went into a series of mergers. The hierarchy weren't all demons by any means, and it was a very caring company to work for.
BorderReiver 25-08-2007, 13:18 That's always been the case though.
Right-wingers tend to be hard-of-thinking neanderthals who have more difficulty than they can handle dragging their knuckles along the ground, grunting as they go, their only pleasure in life thinking about who they're going to hit over the head with a big cudgel next :D
StarSparkle
And Left-wingers tend to be supercilious and self-righteous morons who think they are morally superior - and always, always right :gag:
Economic Left/Right: 1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.74
melthebell 25-08-2007, 13:21 Left-wingers tend to be supercilious and self-righteous morons who think they are somehow superior - and always right :gag:
lol
its funny that, cos everybody on here never mind whether right or left always seem to be right
lol
its funny that, cos everybody on here never mind whether right or left always seem to be right
Well, that's where you're wrong. :P
melthebell 25-08-2007, 13:25 Well, that's where you're wrong. :P
and tch theres always one
:P
StarSparkle 25-08-2007, 13:31 And Left-wingers tend to be supercilious and self-righteous morons who think they are morally superior - and always, always right :gag:
Economic Left/Right: 1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.74
Ooh, that's a big word - do you know what it means? :hihi:
And by the way, us 'lefties' don't think we're morally superior - we KNOW we're morally superior :)
Have a nice day
StarSparkle
Dungbeetle 25-08-2007, 13:44 Ooh, that's a big word - do you know what it means? :hihi:
And by the way, us 'lefties' don't think we're morally superior - we KNOW we're morally superior :)Yes, they certainly mean well, but fail innocently to appreciate the misguided nature of their beliefs.
carmencarter 25-08-2007, 16:53 And Left-wingers tend to be supercilious and self-righteous morons who think they are morally superior - and always, always right :gag:
Economic Left/Right: 1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.74
Hmm.
I'm a "naive leftie" and think that I am right in my beliefs, just like right-wingers think they get it right...and it's fair to say that lefties are indeed more preoccupied with morality than with profit.
Of course it's not black or white: if compagnies don't make profit then it can mean unemployment- although they also tend to take their business abroad so they can exploit cheaper workforce.
Oh dear, I need to get myself a "politics for dummies".
But I still think I will always be leftie:hihi:
Phanerothyme 25-08-2007, 17:33 And Left-wingers tend to be supercilious and self-righteous morons who think they are morally superior - and always, always right :gag:
If that's true, then welcome to the other side comrade!
;)
RozeePozee 27-08-2007, 21:38 A predictably un-challenging response my dear - because we both know there is no retort you could come back with to that one.
Some time ago Tony requested that you lay off the abuse.
In the last week you've shown yourself to be unable or unwilling to do this - several members have have had to tolerate your comments.
Please stop the abuse.Thanks Joe, but I think it's just that Dung's got a **** (whoops, sorry, a chip) on his shoulder. If you had to live in a pile of poo, you'd probably have the ****s with the world too :hihi:
Dungbeetle 27-08-2007, 22:01 Thanks Joe, but I think it's just that Dung's got a **** (whoops, sorry, a chip) on his shoulder. If you had to live in a pile of poo, you'd probably have the ****s with the world too :hihi:
I'm afraid I don't live in poo, but the fact remains that you can put no argument forward to justify, or at least litigate, the hypocrisy between your left wing views and your privileged existence in Ranmoor. To me as a right-winger, the likes of Ranmoor, Wirlow, Fullwood et al are just nice places to live, or for other to aspire to live.
Try to convince somebody living on the Manor that you share their left wing ideals, and explain to them why, as so left a thinker, you choose to live in Ranmoor rather than with them.
RozeePozee 28-08-2007, 18:54 I'm afraid I don't live in poo, but the fact remains that you can put no argument forward to justify, or at least litigate, the hypocrisy between your left wing views and your privileged existence in Ranmoor. To me as a right-winger, the likes of Ranmoor, Wirlow, Fullwood et al are just nice places to live, or for other to aspire to live.
Try to convince somebody living on the Manor that you share their left wing ideals, and explain to them why, as so left a thinker, you choose to live in Ranmoor rather than with them.Too many assumptions, Dung dearest. As a matter of fact, I downshifted considerably to live in Ranmoor - everything is relative - but to follow your line of argument, I would need to do more than move to the Manor as I'd still have many material possessions, surely I'd have to go and find a cardboard box under the Arches? "Leftist" is way too simplistic a label and you assume that people from the Manor have left wing idealls.
I come from Moss Side originally so I don't need to move to the Manor to know what it's like to live in relative poverty. Just because someone subscribes to egalitarian ideals, it does not follow that they can't strive to improve their lot, nor are they unprincipled to live in a better neighbourhood. My idea of equality is not that we are all equally poor. However, the house I live in does not represent the person I am, nor how I behave and relate to my fellow human beings.
shoeshine 28-08-2007, 19:04 We, as residents of this planet Earth, have a duty to respect those less fortunate than ourselves, for whatever reason excepting "knowing" criminal conduct to an extreme degree, as equals.
Dungbeetle 28-08-2007, 19:15 However, the house I live in does not represent the person I am, nor how I behave and relate to my fellow human beings.It does in the eyes of many of our gutter class lefties who would view you as a stuck-up posh right-winger.
The funny thing about socialism is that it is an impossibility. You can't have a society in which people are equal, because if the opportunities available to them are equal and fair, talent will rise and dross will sink. Next thing you know, you're wallowing in capitalism - much as you are in your reasonable property.
You may try to convince yourself that you have left wing ideals, but I regret to inform you that you are, very much, a capitalist.
Solomon1 28-08-2007, 22:22 c'est moi.......:)
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67
It does in the eyes of many of our gutter class lefties who would view you as a stuck-up posh right-winger.
The funny thing about socialism is that it is an impossibility. You can't have a society in which people are equal, because if the opportunities available to them are equal and fair, talent will rise and dross will sink. Next thing you know, you're wallowing in capitalism - much as you are in your reasonable property.
You may try to convince yourself that you have left wing ideals, but I regret to inform you that you are, very much, a capitalist.
Very few lefties would view someone living in Ranmoor as a stuck-up posh rightwinger. Most lefties are educated middle class, your stereotypical guardian reader !
Everyone has their own talents. Where opportunities are equal and fair everyone would be able to contribute to the best of their ability, and the product of such a society like any society is best given to those with the most needs.
Your views appear to come from a belief we are all essentially self serving. If people were as greedy and unprincipled as you make out then the world we live in would be truly awful and we would never have achieved any society. Generally people get on and help one another. Socialism is about harnessing that fraternity and comradeship for the betterment of society as a whole.
RozeePozee 29-08-2007, 18:10 It does in the eyes of many of our gutter class lefties who would view you as a stuck-up posh right-winger.
The funny thing about socialism is that it is an impossibility. You can't have a society in which people are equal, because if the opportunities available to them are equal and fair, talent will rise and dross will sink. Next thing you know, you're wallowing in capitalism - much as you are in your reasonable property.
You may try to convince yourself that you have left wing ideals, but I regret to inform you that you are, very much, a capitalist.I'm not sure you can be anything other than a capitalist if you live in the west. How would you exist outside the dominant ideology, namely capitalism, unless, as I suggested rather tongue in cheek, you go and live in a cave somewhere? I don't classify myself as simply 'left' or 'right' wing. I like to think of myself as a humanitarian capitalist :hihi: Human nature is inconsistent and, as I think the Political Compass questionairre attempts to demonstrate, it isn't really possible to be 'purely' left or right. Personal ideology is most likely to be multi faceted.
Dungbeetle 29-08-2007, 18:12 I'm not sure you can be anything other than a capitalist if you live in the west. How would you exist outside the dominant ideology, namely capitalism, unless, as I suggested rather tongue in cheek, you go and live in a cave somewhere? I don't classify myself as simply 'left' or 'right' wing. I like to think of myself as a humanitarian capitalist :hihi: Human nature is inconsistent and, as I think the Political Compass questionairre attempts to demonstrate, it isn't really possible to be 'purely' left or right. Personal ideology is most likely to be multi faceted.
Nice answer, and honest too I think.
RozeePozee 29-08-2007, 18:17 Nice answer, and honest too I think.Human nature is inconsistent. You're so much nicer when you have your pleasant head on ;) Maybe you should try it more often :hihi:
For God's sakes people, just lay off the bickering.
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RozeePozee 29-08-2007, 20:54 Hey Joe, your signature is very apt. I agree that less of the agressive stupidity is required - apologies, sarcasm doesn't become me ;)
carmencarter 30-08-2007, 08:42 c'est moi.......:)
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67
Very similar to mine ( -5.63/ - 2.31):hihi:
Bomberman 30-08-2007, 12:00 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46
looong way left :D
My score Economic -2.00
Libertarian -5.59.
Seems to place me close to the Dalai Lama.
metaphoria 23-01-2008, 22:06 Economic left/right -3.88
Social libertarian/authoritarian -1.90
Whatever that means...
Phanerothyme 24-01-2008, 00:21 Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82
... must be the coffee.
Madornay 24-01-2008, 15:56 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59
AshleyAlexis 30-10-2008, 05:34 ME
Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
i guess im a lot more liberal than i had originally thought....and yes, i mfrom the west.
Phanerothyme 18-07-2011, 09:41 Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13
llamatron 18-07-2011, 09:55 I was near Ghandi which surprised me, he is probably what I aspire to be like but I thought I would come out in the top right (near the middle).
However those were very leading questions in many cases!
Phanerothyme 18-07-2011, 10:29 I was near Ghandi which surprised me, he is probably what I aspire to be like but I thought I would come out in the top right (near the middle).
However those were very leading questions in many cases!
They are quite definitely meant to be 'leading' or 'partisan' statements - and it's also quite deliberate that you can't sit on the fence and say "neither agree nor disagree".
RootsBooster 18-07-2011, 10:58 Mine:
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23
Sort of what I was expecting really. I think a lot of the questions can be subject to interpretation though. Also there were a few where in reality I'd have a different opinion to the choices given, but you're forced to pick one.
I stand by my signature (which is a play against the term "Bleeding-heart liberal").
mj.scuba 18-07-2011, 11:09 Economic Left/Right: 1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=1.88&soc=-2.21
Spot on what I'd expected!
Economic Left/Right: 0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=0.75&soc=-3.08
Not quite what I'd expected...but not too far off. Amusing :)
NorthernStar 18-07-2011, 12:21 Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59
I believe that puts me around the Gandhi/Mandela area of the graph, pretty much as I thought - I'm in good company.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-5.50&soc=-3.59
Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.12&soc=0.36
I didn't know what to expect or what it means.:huh:
Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-5.12&soc=-0.51
Of course these things are never accurate. Sometimes the questions are not applicable, intentionally targeted and some people just don't answer truthfully.
My truthful results so that I am slightly left of that well-known antagonist Mahatma Ghandi:
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.31
flamingjimmy 18-07-2011, 14:25 Economic left/right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
I could have answered a fair few of the questions quite differently though.
Also, what on earth is the Dalai Lama doing on the bottom left of that chart?
He's all talk, when he was actually in power he was an authoritarian, ruling the peasants around him from his luxurious palaces, screw that hypocrite, seriously, he's conned the whole world into thinking he's some sort of saint.
Fishcake 18-07-2011, 14:37 Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74
me and the dalai Lama are close
mj.scuba 18-07-2011, 14:52 Of course these things are never accurate. Sometimes the questions are not applicable, intentionally targeted and some people just don't answer truthfully.
My truthful results so that I am slightly left of that well-known antagonist Mahatma Ghandi:
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.31
True one of the questions mentioned 'predatory multinationals' which made it a loaded question.
Keith Rich 18-07-2011, 15:24 Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36
http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.12&soc=0.36
I didn't know what to expect or what it means.:huh:
Neither do I. Especially when it compared me to other people...Anyone heard of Karl Marx :clap::heyhey:
Phanerothyme 18-07-2011, 15:37 True one of the questions mentioned 'predatory multinationals' which made it a loaded question.
It's designed to be loaded - all the statements are (there aren't any questions).
Jessica23 18-07-2011, 16:51 Economic left/right: -7.88
Social libertarian/authoritarian: -8.36
I thought I'd be slightly more moderate than this, but I'm not displeased.
Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21
ANGELFIRE1 18-07-2011, 18:32 No idea what it means, but I am -
Economic left/right -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritanian 0.05
Is that good or bad?
Regards
Angel.
Cavegirl 18-07-2011, 20:09 I came out at:
left/right wing= -6.75
liber/ auth= -8.26
I'm guessing I'm somewhere near Percy Shelley and the Diggers but they didn't include them on their chart :)
Rich Siddall 19-07-2011, 01:32 I'm
Economic; Left/Right -6.25
Socio; Libertarian/Authoritarian -4.31
I'm in good company
Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36
It would be interesting to see if any of our resident hatefreaks do the test - could make for some interesting results.
Any takers?
It would be interesting to see if any of our resident hatefreaks do the test - could make for some interesting results.
Any takers?
Like it's been said, it would be very doubtful that people would answer the questions truthfully
gularscute 19-07-2011, 11:28 Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64
It's interesting to look at the ready made graph on that site, the one that displays the likely positions of well known leaders. When people used to say that Thatcher was to the right of Hitler, I always thought it was an exaggeration.
AJ sheffield 19-07-2011, 14:43 Economic Left/Right: -2.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74
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