Breaking News - Naz Verdict [Archive]

Ally68

31-03-2006, 11:35

Can you believe he tried to get out of a ban until sentancing due to commitments, including charity work? Laughable. He can afford a chauffeur. There is no way he should be allowed behind a wheel again. Feel sorry for his kids if (but hope it's when) he goes to jail, but he didn't think of them while he was putting his and other lives at risk :rant: .

This is fom the Sheffield Star.
Naz faces jail threat
WORLD boxing legend 'Prince' Naseem Hamed has been told he could face jail after pleading guilty suddenly this morning to dangerous driving.
The 32-year-old was banned from the roads until at least May, when he will be sentenced for his involvement in a horror crash which left a Sheffield man fighting for his life.

The former featherweight champ unexpectedly entered a guilty plea this morning, to a packed courtroom at Sheffield Crown Court.
Naz - wearing a grey knee-length jacket - spoke only to confirm his name and his guilty plea.
He was given conditional bail and told not to get behind the wheel of another vehicle until he is sentenced on May 12.
The Recorder of Sheffield Judge Alan Goldsack QC told him he would be given credit for his guilty plea - but warned him the fact he was given bail was not an indication he would not be jailed.
The £20 million Sheffield-born star, of Wyvern Gardens, Dore, was arrested last year after his £313,000 sports car with personalised number plate was involved in a crash with two other vehicles.
The three-seater Mercedes SLR crashed head-on with a VW Golf travelling in the opposite direction on Ringinglow Road in Sheffield last May.
Parts of the Mercedes and the VW Golf were strewn for 50 yards along the road between Wigley Farm and Firs Farm.
The driver of the Golf - Anthony Burgin, of Hill Top, near Bents Green - was airlifted to hospital, underwent surgery, and spent time in intensive care.
The court heard the 39-year-old underwent yet another operation on his injuries yesterday, and so was unable to attend today's hearing.
But the court was told he was hoping to be well enough to attend court in May to see Naz sentenced.
Mr Burgin's family laughed out loud from the crowded public gallery as Naseem's barrister Martin Sharpe asked the court not to impose a driving ban between now and the sentencing. He said: "He has a number of commitments in the interim which require him to drive, not for his own benefit - for charity."
But, imposing a ban, the judge replied: "He can perhaps afford a chauffeur if he needs it."
The case was adjourned for pre-sentence reports.
Naseem's wife Eleasha is expecting a baby in the summer.
The couple have two sons - Sami Naseem, seven, and Aadam, five.
The boxer, who first climbed into the ring as a boy at Brendan Ingle's gym in Wincobank and was awarded an MBE in 1999, has said he is planning a career comeback.
Mr Ingle, who guided Naz to his early boxing success, said today: "Everybody, no matter who they are, has to suffer the consequences if they do something wrong.
"When you are a teenager, sometimes things happen, but when you become an adult you are responsible for your own actions.
"If Naz was driving dangerously, which he has pleaded guilty to, he has to take the consequences."
31 March 2006

naps

31-03-2006, 11:53

He also got his ar*e licking mates to threaten a local farmer who witnessed him change clothes after the crash, so that he wouldn't be identified as the driver. What a family man.

Benjimimo

31-03-2006, 11:56

I use to work at Olan Mills and his skanky Brother stole some test prints of his kid. N*b Heeeeeeeeeed. As if he couldn't afford it PIKEY

crookesey

31-03-2006, 12:04

So thats Naz for Sheffielder of the year is it?

alchresearch

31-03-2006, 12:23

he cut me up whilst i was driving in town about a couple of hours before he had that accident. i was very angry especially when he just give me a smarmy look!

You should have gone after him and given him a smack. It's the only way he'll learn. :)

nick2

31-03-2006, 12:25

You should have gone after him and given him a smack. It's the only way he'll learn. :)

Is that you're answer to everything ?

coyote13

31-03-2006, 12:35

the sad little tosspot.

I have been cut up on more than one occasion by his hazardous driving. He drives like the road is a racetrack.

He did not get planning permission for his 'gym' and I have seen his car parked outside his 'gym' on the zig-zag lines (facing the wrong way) which are there to protect pedestrians at the crossing.

But he's rich and little will affect his errant ways. It's only a matter of time before he kills someone.

I pity the family that has to live with such a confused bundle of arrogance.

alchemist

31-03-2006, 12:35

Just seen the report on look leeds, the reporter kept calling him prince nazeem, i wish they would get it through their thick skulls that that is NOT his name just his over large ego

RazorSHarp

31-03-2006, 12:55

I think his sentencing should be open forum, can I start the bidding at 15 years.?

SallyLaLaLa

31-03-2006, 13:01

Feel sorry for his kids if (but hope it's when) he goes to jail, but he didn't think of them while he was putting his and other lives at risk :rant: .

Well it's not like they're going to suffer any hardship while their millionaire dad is in nick.

Quite unlike what is probably happening to the family of the injured man who are probably suffering hardship because he can't work now.

subverTV

31-03-2006, 13:02

I have heard loads of people say that he's a dangerous driver. Maybe he has trouble seeing over the dashboard.

Ha ha ha, lmao. I used to work at the Leadmill where he used to pop in to strut and apart from firstly being left with the instense memory of him being an arrogant sod, second was his mighty stature, chortle.

Greybeard

31-03-2006, 13:19

He'll not get sent down, - people like him always seem to get away with community service or an easily affordable fine.

Magilla

31-03-2006, 13:26

This has just been announced. Apparently the judge said that he may face a jail sentence.

He admitted guilt since it's plain he is going down. I can't see how there is anyway he will avoid a custodial sentence.

He should be banned from driving for life IMV, he is physically and mentally incapable of driving *any* car. He has only avoided an accident so far due to the dilligence of other drivers. His competance behind the wheel is unbelievably low!

Swoff

31-03-2006, 13:34

By pleading guilty he's going get himself a lesser sentence - I bet its suspended - it'd be racist not too.

ZEDEX48K

31-03-2006, 13:37

I know from someone in the Sheffield boxing world that he DID NOT have fully comp insurance on his £300,000+ car, in order to save himself a few thousand a year on his policy. He only had third party, fire and theft!!!!! so he has lost out on the value of the car!

Bet he wished he had fully comp!

nuf_said

31-03-2006, 15:06

The reports don't refer to the fact he:-
Didn't see if the injured driver was alive or injured (apparently).
He changed clothes to avoid identification.
He and his friends ran away from the accident site.

Why has this additional collection of crimes not been raised by the CPS?
Why have the police turned a blind eye to all his bad driving exploits over the years?

NUF SAID

Nimrod

31-03-2006, 15:19

Can we invite Naz to join the forum, he can then log on and read what his Forum Fan Club thinks of him??
His ego will take another bashing.

lint

31-03-2006, 16:07

justice at last :clap::clap:

dan_999uk

31-03-2006, 16:07

Six months suspended for 2 years plus a 5 year ban I reckon.

Abdul

31-03-2006, 16:18

He'll not get sent down, - people like him always seem to get away with community service or an easily affordable fine.

Agreed. Celebrities are only ever jailed for tax evasion / avoidance, not for silly driving offences.

Can we invite Naz to join the forum, he can then log on and read what his Forum Fan Club thinks of him??
His ego will take another bashing.

Give Naz some credit, eh? He's probably the only world famous talent this petty city of miserable losers has ever produced :roll:

RichC

31-03-2006, 16:27

Give Naz some credit, eh? He's probably the only world famous talent this petty city of miserable losers has ever produced :roll:

That's got to be trolling, right there :)

Moonman

31-03-2006, 16:27

Agreed. Celebrities are only ever jailed for tax evasion / avoidance, not for silly driving offences.

Give Naz some credit, eh? He's probably the only world famous talent this petty city of miserable losers has ever produced :roll:

Rather harsh do u not think, agreed he was a fine talent ....but petty, miserable city of losers??? the man has done wrong.the man deserves punishment. and because of his ego and attitude people are just having their 2 penneth worth and hoping that another millionare sportsman doesnt escape the punishment just because of his sporting achievments, hardly a case to slam the whole city as "miserable losers" is it?

nick2

31-03-2006, 16:29

Rather harsh do u not think, agreed he was a fine talent ....but petty, miserable city of losers??? the man has done wrong.the man deserves punishment.

Fair enough, but all the obvious gloating and delight is a bit distastefull and does have an aroma of sour grapes about it.

Moonman

31-03-2006, 16:31

Fair point, but surely so does slamming the whole of sheffield as petty miserable losers?

nick2

31-03-2006, 16:34

Fair point, but surely so does slamming the whole of sheffield as petty miserable losers?

It is a bit harsh perhaps, but based on this thread you can see why he put it.

Abdul

31-03-2006, 16:37

Fair point, but surely so does slamming the whole of sheffield as petty miserable losers?

Point taken, Moonman.

If guilty, Naseem should be punished, but I wonder how many of the spiteful comments about Prince Naseem on this thread, or indeed this entire forum, are to do with envy rather than justice?

LordChaverly

31-03-2006, 16:41

Give Naz some credit, eh? He's probably the only world famous talent this petty city of miserable losers has ever produced :roll:

But was he really any good as a boxer? He was it is true good at knocking over Mexican road sweepers, but as soon as he went to the US to face real opposition he was stopped in his tracks. A career based on the careful selection of opponents, hype and swaggering braggadocio do not a great boxer make.

Abdul

31-03-2006, 16:45

But was he really any good as a boxer? He was it is true good at knocking over Mexican road sweepers, but as soon as he went to the US to face real opposition he was stopped in his tracks. A career based on the careful selection of opponents, hype and swaggering braggadocio do not a great boxer make.

Eh? I'm sure in his boxing career he KO'd the odd white man here and there too :huh:

Moonman

31-03-2006, 16:45

true true abdul, i think a few of the the forumers posted for personal pleasure and satisfaction rather than seeing justice being done, i for one used to be proud of the fact that sheffield could be associated with naz & world class boxing, however its a sad day when he shows up in the headlines for something of this nature, its not the fact he ran away from the scene that bothers me the greatest, although i dont condone it (people do crazy things when in shock/panic mode) its the fact that (if true) he switched clothes to make himself look less suspicious:suspect:

Shazbat

31-03-2006, 16:47

It never ceases to amaze me when rich and famous people, like him (and especially when driving cars with personal plates such as say, NAS1 and NAS8 ), do something stupid like leave the scene of an accident and then say it wasn't them driving. I was over the moon when the Police said they were checking fibres from his top against those found on airbag to prove who was driving. Bet he never thought of that as he [allegedly *cough*]scarpered :hihi:

And I'm not being a petty, miserable loser nor am I being critical out of spite or envy; he broke the law and should be punished accordingly based on what he did, not who he is.

johnbradley

31-03-2006, 16:55

Moonman

31-03-2006, 16:56

pretty fine boxer, definately a dangerous driver, maybe a bit of a big-headed numptie...

maybe this'll sort him out, and perhaps we can get him back in the ring...

now who'd like to see hamed vs kahn?

count me in!!

i certainly would like to see that fight, although i read somewhere that he said he wouldnt fight another muslim, i may be wrong on that though.

Greengeek

31-03-2006, 17:05

csi_bha

31-03-2006, 17:15

Impossible, The car is worth too much to be only insured TPFT,

Not at all, it is possible, afterall, the insurance company wont be paying for repairs to his car, so highly possible - as they'll only have to pay for anything he hits, unless its not his fault (highly unlikely).

:)

angle20

31-03-2006, 17:58

now who'd like to see hamed vs kahn?

count me in!!
I recall hearing the same as Moonman: some sort of religious thing - a Muslim guy would lose.

Little_Alex

31-03-2006, 18:05

Couldn't have happened to a nicer person:gag: It's just a crying shame for the victim, s*** for brains will get over his bit of time in the big house (that's if he goes down, which I doubt):mad:

rick49

31-03-2006, 18:24

I think he sould be taught a lesson and be jaild for at least five years, just think about the other guy's family,he's a little HAS BEEN.:

Darran

31-03-2006, 18:29

belive me ..he wont get time ..which he deserves for reckless driving and running away from the accident scene...he has too much of a high profile....

he also parks in the disabled spots in meadowhall just outside front doors ...such a arrogant pig

andrews701

31-03-2006, 18:36

:loopy: think he,s loosing the plot anyway

coyote13

31-03-2006, 18:44

he also parks in the disabled spots in meadowhall just outside front doors ...such a arrogant pig

Well after all he is disabled ... mentally.

Yes I would say it to his arrogant little face.

He brings shame to the city, where the real loosers are councillors and senior executive members of the council. (and abdul, of course)

alchresearch

31-03-2006, 19:02

Is that you're answer to everything ?

Note the smile after my post? It was supposed to show sarcasm, what with him being a boxer and all. Or maybe you're just trolling again like on the car vandalism thread?

pk014b7161

31-03-2006, 19:05

i cant see him getting locked up though he deserves it as does anyone who does things like this

prioryx

31-03-2006, 19:55

In our local paper there is the result of a case where there were three people in a two seater car. A girl was sat on the passengers knee. The driver with three previous convictions for speeding hit a tree and the girl was killed. Idiot judge fined him £1500 and £500 pounds costs. The charge was reduced to something stupid.
I always say if you want to kill si=omeone do it with a car you will not get much of a sentance.

garryn

31-03-2006, 20:29

He's probably the only world famous talent this petty city of miserable losers has ever produced :roll:

A lot of the posts on this thread were actually witness accounts of his bad driving ability.

As to his being the only world famous talent......

possibly the most well known sheffield BOXER

Theres plenty of world class talent come out of sheffield in lots of different fields and many last alot longer too.

Waffer

31-03-2006, 21:09

This has just been announced. Apparently the judge said that he may face a jail sentence.

Well ....HE MAY....thats NOT THE VERDICT IS IT THEN.......fool

LordChaverly

31-03-2006, 21:22

Well ....HE MAY....thats NOT THE VERDICT IS IT THEN.......fool

You obviously do not understand the meaning of the word 'verdict'. I suggest that you look it up in a dictionary - at the risk of overtaxing your brain cell.

Waffer

31-03-2006, 21:52

So whats to understand....Unlike you i dont have to look in the dictionary 10 times a day. .Half cell wit nit

Clairy

31-03-2006, 22:00

Apparently his wife wont let him take the kids out in the car, so even she knows what an a**hole he is when driving!

spartacus

31-03-2006, 22:05

Give Naz some credit, eh? He's probably the only world famous talent this petty city of miserable losers has ever produced :roll:

Really. See this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/image_galleries/sheffield_legends_gallery.shtml?1

And by the way, Abdul, if you are that contemptuous of our city then why don't you pack your bags and leave?

Waffer

31-03-2006, 22:07

He likes his cars though, i saw him in an aston martin...about a week after his ferrari got smashed up.......we used to dine in the greasy spoon after training...a real grotty transport cafe

guest121

31-03-2006, 22:09

Maybe Gordon Banks, but that is a desperate collection of "legends" - hardly legends are they?

Neil Warnock!!! Hardly Bill Shankly!!!!!:confused: :confused: :confused:

Waffer

31-03-2006, 22:14

god what a poor afair....didnt even mention the The Pope, The Queen or Adolf Hitler........Both come from Sheffield

SpeedwayDan

31-03-2006, 22:25

like most succesful people, he's surrounded himself by yes men, and has lost the plot because of this

Waffer

31-03-2006, 22:28

Now thats unlike myself...........I would surround myself with "yes" women

Or even "yes yes" Women

Zaytsev

01-04-2006, 04:39

Give Naz some credit, eh? He's probably the only world famous talent this petty city of miserable losers has ever produced :roll:

You little scamp Abdul. There you go again with that famous wit and charm of yours.

As for 'world famous' talent surely have you forgotten or indeed never come across the following:

Entertainment
Nick Banks, musician, drummer for Pulp
Sean Bean, actor
Marti Caine, comedienne
Tony Capstick, comedian, actor, musician and broadcaster
Paul Carrack, musician, formerly of Ace and Squeeze
Jarvis Cocker, musician, lead singer of Pulp
Joe Cocker, singer
Bruce Dickinson, musician, lead singer of Iron Maiden
Joe Elliott, musician, lead singer of Def Leppard
Matthew Helders, musician, drummer for the Arctic Monkeys
Stephen Jones, musician and novelist, formerly of Babybird
Patricia Maynard, actor
Patrick McGoohan, actor
Róisín Murphy, musician, formerly lead singer of Moloko
Phil Oakey, musician, lead singer of the Human League
Michael Palin, comedian, actor, and travel presenter
Rick Savage, musician, bassist of Def Leppard
Russell Senior, musician, former guitarist for Pulp
Alex Turner, musician, vocalist and songwriter for the Arctic Monkeys
Anna Walker, television presenter
Martyn Ware, musician Heaven 17
The Long Blondes, an art-rock band

Science and Engineering
Richard Bentall, clinical psychologist
Sir Henry Bessemer, engineer
Thomas Boulsover, inventor of Sheffield Plate
Harry Brearley, inventor of Stainless steel
Sir John Fowler, railway engineer and co-designer of the Forth Railway Bridge
Benjamin Huntsman, inventor and steel manufacturer
Hans Adolf Krebs, biochemist, winner of the 1953 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine
Joseph Locke, railway engineer
Juda Hirsch Quastel, biochemist
Frederick Brian Pickering, metallurgist
Helen Sharman, astronaut
Henry Clifton Sorby, microscopist and geologist
John Paul Wild, astronomer

Sport
Gordon Banks, footballer
Gary Cahill, footballer
Sebastian Coe, athlete
Malcolm Elliott, Professional cyclist
Jessica Ennis, athlete
Herol 'Bomber' Graham, boxer
Andrew Griffiths, field hockey forward
Naseem Hamed, boxer
Emlyn Hughes, footballer
Ben Moon, rock climber
Tony Parkes, assistant football manager
John Sherwood, International 400 metre Hurdler.
Sheila Sherwood, International Long Jumper 1962 - 1974.
David Sherwood, tennis player
Joe Simpson, mountaineer
James Toseland, motorcycle racer, winner of the 2004 World Superbike championship
Michael Vaughan, Captain of the England cricket team
Chris Waddle, former England footballer
Howard Wilkinson,ex England football manager
Justin Wilson, motor-racing driver
Clinton Woods, boxer
Harry Wright, baseball player

Then again we do have Peter Stringfellow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So maybe your half right:hihi:

Abdul

01-04-2006, 06:13

A lot of the posts on this thread were actually witness accounts of his bad driving ability.

True, but some of the posts mention family members or his background, which have nothing to do with the sentence or this thread.

Abdul

01-04-2006, 06:16

Really. See this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/image_galleries/sheffield_legends_gallery.shtml?1

Good God!

They could have picked someone instead of David Blunkett as picture one :gag:

Abdul

01-04-2006, 06:24

You little scamp Abdul. There you go again with that famous wit and charm of yours.

As for 'world famous' talent surely have you forgotten or indeed never come across the following:

<snip>

Then again we do have Peter Stringfellow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So maybe your half right:hihi:

FYTC, I have respect for your points of view, but:

(1) I haven't heard of the vast majority of people you mention, or care for their efforts (International Long Jumper 1962 - 1974, big deal :roll: ), and neither, I suspect, has the rest of the world, or many people in Sheffield for that matter.

Naz put Sheffield on the map. Ask people all over the world which city Naz comes from, and they'll know - SHEFFIELD!

(2) Some people on your list were not born in Sheffield and I am unsure of how strong their links are to our city. Chris Waddle, for instance, was not born in Sheffield. Based on that criteria, perhaps you should also have mentioned Peter Sutcliiffe (aka Yorkshire Ripper), as he was caught in Sheffield :D

Abdul

01-04-2006, 06:55

And by the way, Abdul, if you are that contemptuous of our city then why don't you pack your bags and leave?

I've nothing against the city, but do you think the small-minded nature of a number of its inhabitants contributes to its perpetually dull image and holds its development back unnecessarily?

Yes, Sheffield has the benefits of being "England's largest village" but also the drawbacks. At times, living here can be like living an episode of Emmerdale, but on a much larger scale :roll:

Is it any wonder we're decades behind Leeds and Manchester when they only way to rouse the locals is to start a thread on Prince Naseem?

upholder

01-04-2006, 06:59

Abdul, this despicable man commited a crime and tried to get himself off the hook with the help of his friends and family.

The man has no honour, he has shamed himself, his family and his religion.

He gets no credit from me the loser.

Zaytsev

01-04-2006, 07:03

FYTC, I have respect for your points of view, but:

(1) I haven't heard of the vast majority of people you mention, or care for their efforts (International Long Jumper 1962 - 1974, big deal :roll: ), and neither, I suspect, has the rest of the world, or many people in Sheffield for that matter.

Naz put Sheffield on the map. Ask people all over the world which city Naz comes from, and they'll know - SHEFFIELD!

(2) Some people on your list were not born in Sheffield and I am unsure of how strong their links are to our city. Chris Waddle, for instance, was not born in Sheffield. Based on that criteria, perhaps you should also have mentioned Peter Sutcliiffe (aka Yorkshire Ripper), as he was caught in Sheffield :D

Sorry old chap didn't know 'being born in Sheffield' was your criteria.
My criteria was, lived in or had strong links with Sheffield. I am aware Chris Waddle was not born in Sheffield.
As a Sheffield United and England supporter I wish he had taken up cricket instead of football due to two very painful events.
Yet again your questionable taste in humour vis-a-vie the serial killer Peter Sutcliffe reference is again a little tasteless, much like the mental midget who just got bird for his hilarious gag, the ripper tapes.
Back to my post though I was merely demonstrating that Sheffield, prior to Mr Hameds rise and subsequent fall from grace has a little more to be proud of than you suggest.
The knocking of achievements however long ago is a little churlish on your part. I suggest a little resrach on some of the names on my list, especially the engineering one, and you may realise that we have alot to be thankful for.

I would also put forward that Sean Bean is a more famous Sheffielder than Naz.

spud

01-04-2006, 07:21

I use to work at Olan Mills and his skanky Brother stole some test prints of his kid. N*b Heeeeeeeeeed. As if he couldn't afford it PIKEY

I can believe it, the whole family are scum.

spud

01-04-2006, 07:24

I use to work at Olan Mills and his skanky Brother stole some test prints of his kid. N*b Heeeeeeeeeed. As if he couldn't afford it PIKEY

I can believe it, living at Wincobank I've seen first hand what the brother and sister used to get up to

spud

01-04-2006, 07:55

PatzB

01-04-2006, 07:56

[QUOTE=Abdul] Naz put Sheffield on the map. Ask people all over the world which city Naz comes from, and they'll know - SHEFFIELD!

Naz put Sheffield on the map. Ask people all over the world which city Naz comes from, and they'll know - SHEFFIELD!

You have got to be joking!!!!! Naz is a has been and i doubt people (outside sheffield) could remeber where he came from

I wish he didnt live here

Naz once was a good boxer but is now a criminal who is hopefully going to prison for a hopefully long time

And Abdul if you don’t like Sheffield then Bye Bye!

PatzB

01-04-2006, 07:57

Johhny Nelson comes to mind, six years a world Champion and a nice man as well

And remember Bommer graham :-) he was a lovely guy too

kal77uk

01-04-2006, 08:31

Ally68

01-04-2006, 08:35

pete_jim

01-04-2006, 08:43

kal77uk

01-04-2006, 08:45

In 2005 I went to the following countries off the track countries

Guyana
French Guiana
Guatemala
Bangladesh
Sri Lanka
Maldives
Oman

What was amazing was that in each country when i mentioned Sheffield England - there was only one reply Prince Naseem -

I cant stand the guy but to be known in those countries takes some doing. So send my apologies to Henry Bessemer, Phil Oakley and the rest of the "Sheffielders". You have work to do. Abdul has a point.

You little scamp Abdul. There you go again with that famous wit and charm of yours.

As for 'world famous' talent surely have you forgotten or indeed never come across the following:

Entertainment
Nick Banks, musician, drummer for Pulp
Sean Bean, actor
Marti Caine, comedienne
Tony Capstick, comedian, actor, musician and broadcaster
Paul Carrack, musician, formerly of Ace and Squeeze
Jarvis Cocker, musician, lead singer of Pulp
Joe Cocker, singer
Bruce Dickinson, musician, lead singer of Iron Maiden
Joe Elliott, musician, lead singer of Def Leppard
Matthew Helders, musician, drummer for the Arctic Monkeys
Stephen Jones, musician and novelist, formerly of Babybird
Patricia Maynard, actor
Patrick McGoohan, actor
Róisín Murphy, musician, formerly lead singer of Moloko
Phil Oakey, musician, lead singer of the Human League
Michael Palin, comedian, actor, and travel presenter
Rick Savage, musician, bassist of Def Leppard
Russell Senior, musician, former guitarist for Pulp
Alex Turner, musician, vocalist and songwriter for the Arctic Monkeys
Anna Walker, television presenter
Martyn Ware, musician Heaven 17
The Long Blondes, an art-rock band

Science and Engineering
Richard Bentall, clinical psychologist
Sir Henry Bessemer, engineer
Thomas Boulsover, inventor of Sheffield Plate
Harry Brearley, inventor of Stainless steel
Sir John Fowler, railway engineer and co-designer of the Forth Railway Bridge
Benjamin Huntsman, inventor and steel manufacturer
Hans Adolf Krebs, biochemist, winner of the 1953 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine
Joseph Locke, railway engineer
Juda Hirsch Quastel, biochemist
Frederick Brian Pickering, metallurgist
Helen Sharman, astronaut
Henry Clifton Sorby, microscopist and geologist
John Paul Wild, astronomer

Sport
Gordon Banks, footballer
Gary Cahill, footballer
Sebastian Coe, athlete
Malcolm Elliott, Professional cyclist
Jessica Ennis, athlete
Herol 'Bomber' Graham, boxer
Andrew Griffiths, field hockey forward
Naseem Hamed, boxer
Emlyn Hughes, footballer
Ben Moon, rock climber
Tony Parkes, assistant football manager
John Sherwood, International 400 metre Hurdler.
Sheila Sherwood, International Long Jumper 1962 - 1974.
David Sherwood, tennis player
Joe Simpson, mountaineer
James Toseland, motorcycle racer, winner of the 2004 World Superbike championship
Michael Vaughan, Captain of the England cricket team
Chris Waddle, former England footballer
Howard Wilkinson,ex England football manager
Justin Wilson, motor-racing driver
Clinton Woods, boxer
Harry Wright, baseball player

Then again we do have Peter Stringfellow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So maybe your half right:hihi:

Zaytsev

01-04-2006, 08:49

Ally68

01-04-2006, 08:51

Obviously according to some people, if your famous your above the law

Zaytsev

01-04-2006, 09:08

pete_jim

01-04-2006, 09:19

Zaytsev

01-04-2006, 09:20

You should get out more and mix a bit.

Nice:hihi:

spud

01-04-2006, 09:27

Zaytsev

01-04-2006, 09:36

Isnt he a yank?

Patrick Joseph McGoohan was born at 4:31 a.m. on March 19th, 1928 in Astoria, Long Island, New York. His father, Thomas McGoohan was an Irish farmer who had married Rose Fitzpatrick in the 1920's. They then emigrated to the United States of America to look for work. His parents did not stay in the U.S. for long and moved back to Ireland.

Seven years later they moved to Sheffield, England. At this early age McGoohan junior had a number of health problems such as acute bronchial asthma. His strong Catholic upbringing pushed him towards an ambition of becoming a Roman Catholic priest. He spent his later years in other parts of England where he eventually gave up ideas of priesthood and became interested in the theatre. In 1944 he left school and worked for a year at the Sheffield British Rope Company.

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 10:18

Well i hope he doesnt go to jail. He may be a dangerous driver and a liability but so are the other drivers who never get caught like the imbecile who took me off the road. You cant jail someone for careless driving anyway, in this case the judge is bending the rules because he is a rich brat and needs an example to be made of him. Most people in Sheffield dont like him because he made his money and enjoys himself, for me he just represents what people aspire to be. Rich.

So you're actually saying that he shouldn't be jailed because he's rich, or because other people have managed to get away with it, so he should too?

If another, less well known (and not ethnic minority) driver had done what Hamed did, including fleeing the scene of the accident, having his cronies threaten a witness, attempting to pervert the course of justice, and happen to have a track record of motoring offences, they would already be in jail because they wouldn't have had the lawyers to delay the case as long as has been the case for Hamed.

He may be famous, but he's famous for being an arrogant, crass little fool more than he is for his boxing. He and his brothers have been driving as though they own the roads for years, all idiots.

Last year one of them went into road rage when confronted over his actions, ended up with a broken nose (great shame), then had the audacity to claim he had been assaulted, used the race card by lying through his back teeth claiming he had been subject to racial abuse, he and Naseem got their heads together and claimed that Naseem witnessed it – which was utter lies, and were it not for the fact that there was (fortunately) an independent witness, their pack of lies would have seen an innocent victim of their horrendous driving and dishonesty convicted of racially aggravated assault.

Hamed must, and I fervently hope will, go to jail. He won't be too popular and I'd advise him to take some vaseline.

alisha18

01-04-2006, 10:38

If you do the crime then obviously you have to pay the time, but I do totally agree with Abdul that Naz is often vicitimised by fellow Sheffield forummers.

Eveyone has a different personality and maybe Naz is a bit arrogant and extravagant, but that's what makes him a unique individual. His fame and success is always going to have people trying to knock him down.

He might be a bad driver, but people have no right to judge him if they don't know him as a person! This country has a habit of favouring losers, Bomber Graham etc, because they are not used to winners like Naz.

I have travelled extensively and when I do talk to people in other countries and when I tell them I am from Sheffield. Instantly, they mention Naz, so he has done a lot for the city, even though he may be a bad driver.

saxon51

01-04-2006, 10:49

Instantly, they mention Naz, so he has done a lot for the city, even though he may be a bad driver.

It isn't just his bad driving that is the problem here though. He left the scene of a serious accident caused by himself, and a victim of his stupidity was ignored by him even though that victim was seriously in need of medical attention. He didn't have the guts to own up. He had his 'trained chimps' threaten a witness.

He might be a bad driver, but people have no right to judge him if they don't know him as a person! This country has a habit of favouring losers, Bomber Graham etc, because they are not used to winners like Naz.

I doubt any of us know the 'Yorkshire Ripper' as a person, but that doesn't stop him being guilty and hated for his crimes.

Because of his actions, he is a criminal .... as any one on here would be in the same circumstances. His boxing prowess and past glories don't count for anything in this case. He is no better than the local yob who drives stolen cars like a nutter and eventually ends up maiming some innocent pedestrian.

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 13:01

. . . .Naz is often vicitimised by fellow Sheffield forummers.

. . . . maybe Naz is a bit arrogant and extravagant, but that's what makes him a unique individual. . . . .

He might be a bad driver, but people have no right to judge him . . . . . ..

Please try telling Mr Burgin and his family that Hamed is a unique individual and that they have no right to judge him.

I've seen him stop his car in rush hour in the middle of the road with no parking, blocking a main Sheffield artery, to saunter into a shop, blocking the main road for 3 or 4 minutes, then slowly saunter out again giving the queuing drivers a smug look as he eventually gets into his car and moves.

That's 'unique' alright. It a unique level of arrogance and total disregard for the unfortunate souls that have to share this city with him.

csi_bha

01-04-2006, 13:14

what has naz done other than this regarding driving? has anyone been first hand of his bad driving?

Ally68

01-04-2006, 13:55

what has naz done other than this regarding driving? has anyone been first hand of his bad driving?

Don't you think what he has done is not bad enough? Leaving the scene of an accident is an offence. He is lucky that this guy survived.

alchresearch

01-04-2006, 14:42

Don't you think what he has done is not bad enough? Leaving the scene of an accident is an offence. He is lucky that this guy survived.

"Every major bone in his body was broken" was the phrase used in a national newspaper today. The victim is still in hospital recovering while Naz enjoys his freedom and health.

slimsid2000

01-04-2006, 15:08

Jail him. He is such a bighead. He obviously thinks that becuase he is rich and famous the traffic laws don't apply to him. He should be shown they do.

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 16:16

what has naz done other than this regarding driving? has anyone been first hand of his bad driving?

There have been entire threads devoted to his version of road chivalry. He and his brothers are a menace on the roads, from the way they constantly cut other people up among other things, with loads of examples quoted by people who have become fed up of their horrendous driving.

Naseem Hamed had a motorway pile up a couple of years ago and somehow thanks to his lawyers managed to get off very lightly – if it had been a Joe Bloggs there would have been at least a long ban, if not worse, but he wormed out of it. His brother Murad was convicted of affray in a road rage incident a couple of years ago, and has also been convicted for indecent assault. Lovely family.

South Yorkshire Police are well aware of his antics and the word from inside SYP was that the ‘gloves were off’ after this last accident – they weren’t going to let him get off this time.

Abdul

01-04-2006, 17:06

Am I missing something or did he not nearly kill someone

Oh, Naz's put plenty of opponents in hospital over the years

Abdul

01-04-2006, 17:12

Please try telling Mr Burgin and his family that Hamed is a unique individual and that they have no right to judge him.

This is probably the first post of the thread that's mentioned the unfortunate victim, or his family. I'm not aware of them going public about the story (please, someone enlighten me if they have) and I have respect for them that they have not, to my knowledge, sold their story to some trashy TV rag.

I'm pleased that Mr Burgin is recovering; I hope he makes a full recovery. However, how many of the posters on this thread hoped the victim was killed in the accident, rather than 'just' seriously injured?

At least then Naz would be guaranteed a jail sentence, rather than just a slap on the wrists, right people? :roll:

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 17:19

This is probably the first post of the thread that's mentioned the unfortunate victim, or his family. I'm not aware of them going public about the story (please, someone enlighten me if they have) and I have respect for them that they have not, to my knowledge, sold their story to some trashy TV rag.

I'm pleased that Mr Burgin is recovering; I hope he makes a full recovery. However, how many of the posters thread wish the victim was killed in the accident, rather than 'just' seriously injured?

At least then Naz would be guaranteed a jail sentence, rather than just a slap on the wrists, right people? :roll:

Are you serious? Do you honestly think that anybody would wish that poor chap an even worse fate? You imbecile.

As for the victim's family, perhaps you should restrict your speculation to what Hamed's familt are up to. I don't support in general the 'kiss and tell to the tabloids' mentality, but if they choose after the conviction to sell, then good for them. I do hope, once Hamed's guilt is legally confirmed and he is languishing behind bars, sharing a cell with the big bloke who introduces himself as Ben Dover, that Mr Burgin takes him to the cleaners in a personal lawsuit.

saxon51

01-04-2006, 17:20

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I'm pleased that Mr Burgin is recovering; I hope he makes a full recovery. However, how many of the posters on this thread hoped the victim was killed in the accident, rather than 'just' seriously injured?

At least then Naz would be guaranteed a jail sentence, rather than just a slap on the wrists, right people? :roll:
Where did you get that weird idea from Abdul?

I think most of the posters wish Mr Burgin had come out of it unscathed, and 'Pocket Prat' had been the one crippled, and unable to drive,ever again ... not the other way round.

Plus; what Bartfarst has just said!

upholder

01-04-2006, 17:21

However, how many of the posters on this thread wish the victim was killed in the accident, rather than 'just' seriously injured?

I would imagine none Abdul, are you feeling allright.

Abdul

01-04-2006, 17:25

Are you serious? Do you honestly think that anybody would wish that poor chap an even worse fate?

Given the venom spat at Naseem and his family on this forum previously, I would not be surprised if some did, in order to secure a jail sentence; all in the name of justice, of course.

You imbecile.

Wow, I got off quite lightly :huh:

Abdul

01-04-2006, 17:28

I would imagine none Abdul, are you feeling allright.

Where did you get that weird idea from Abdul?

I think most of the posters wish Mr Burgin had come out of it unscathed, and 'Pocket Prat' had been the one crippled, and unable to drive,ever again ... not the other way round.

And I'm sure the vast majority of forum users think the same way as you do, but given some of the comments made over the years on here, I would not be surprised if some of the more spiteful ones were just waiting for Naz to have a major accident - the more serious the better :suspect:

LordChaverly

01-04-2006, 17:32

This is probably the first post of the thread that's mentioned the unfortunate victim, or his family. I'm not aware of them going public about the story (please, someone enlighten me if they have) and I have respect for them that they have not, to my knowledge, sold their story to some trashy TV rag.

I'm pleased that Mr Burgin is recovering; I hope he makes a full recovery. However, how many of the posters on this thread hoped the victim was killed in the accident, rather than 'just' seriously injured?

At least then Naz would be guaranteed a jail sentence, rather than just a slap on the wrists, right people? :roll:

Abdul, I like your posts and believe you to be an admirable fellow. However, I have a feeling that on this particular thread your judgement is being a teeny weeny bit clouded by your origins. Naz is of Yemeni extraction. You are of Yemeni extraction. Perhaps deep down you feel the need to defend someone with a similar background to your own. Personally, I think this ethnic loyalty, if this is what it is, is misplaced in this case. Sheffielders would have a much greater degree of sympathy for him had this been a one-off incident, but it is just the last in an escalating series of inconsiderate and dangerous incidents. Whatever sympathy Naz may have engendered some years ago has been squandered by his appalling behaviour. I am getting a little concerned that, your loyalty to fellow Yemenis will get out of hand and that you will start defending Osama Bin Ladin (who I believe is also of Yemeni origin). :hihi: :hihi:

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 17:35

irenewilde

01-04-2006, 17:36

Given the venom spat at Naseem and his family on this forum previously, I would not be surprised if some did, in order to secure a jail sentence; all in the name of justice, of course.

Naseem is arrogant, unpleasant and downright dangerous behind the wheel of a car as many people on here who've had bad experiences with him have pointed out. He nearly killed that guy on Ringinglow Road, drove away from the scene not caring what had happened and then tried to shift the blame away from himself. Are you saying we should be praising him to the skies? There's no wonder people dislike him so much. He clearly thinks he's above the law because of who he is. Let's hope that proves not to be true. A prison sentence and a lengthy driving ban might make him think about what he's been doing.

saxon51

01-04-2006, 17:38

A prison sentence and a lengthy driving ban might make him think about what he's been doing.

I was thinking more in the line of a 'lifetime' ban for the sake of other road users. A strictly enforced one as well.

irenewilde

01-04-2006, 17:41

I was thinking more in the line of a 'lifetime' ban for the sake of other road users. A strictly enforced one as well.

We can dream, can't we!!!!! It would be great, but not a hope :-(

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 17:41

I was thinking more in the line of a 'lifetime' ban for the sake of other road users. A strictly enforced one as well.

As a devout Muslim he should support Sharia law. The principle of cutting a thief's hand off might be useful - cut both of his off so he can't use a steering wheel again.

saxon51

01-04-2006, 17:45

As a devout Muslim he should support Sharia law. The principle of cutting a thief's hand off might be useful - cut both of his off so he can't use a steering wheel again.

Some witnesses to his driving ability - or lack thereof - would probably comment that it probably wouldn't effect his driving one iota.

Abdul

01-04-2006, 17:47

He nearly killed that guy on Ringinglow Road, drove away from the scene not caring what had happened and then tried to shift the blame away from himself. Are you saying we should be praising him to the skies?

I'm not saying that at all; if Naz is found guilty then he should be punished. However, some of those eager for him to punished appear to be driven more by revenge than justice.

Abdul

01-04-2006, 18:29

Abdul, I like your posts and believe you to be an admirable fellow. However, I have a feeling that on this particular thread your judgement is being a teeny weeny bit clouded by your origins. Naz is of Yemeni extraction. You are of Yemeni extraction. Perhaps deep down you feel the need to defend someone with a similar background to your own. Personally, I think this ethnic loyalty, if this is what it is, is misplaced in this case. Sheffielders would have a much greater degree of sympathy for him had this been a one-off incident, but it is just the last in an escalating series of inconsiderate and dangerous incidents. Whatever sympathy Naz may have engendered some years ago has been squandered by his appalling behaviour.

Thank you for your comments, LC.

Yes, I had the dubious pleasure of knowing his family even before he was in his teens; this is not a secret. If this thread was about Naseem and the behaviour of his family, then I'd be happy to inform you all that he's from a family of childhood bullies. I'd even tell you all about how I got my revenge on his older brother.

But this thread is to do with the verdict of a major driving offence he has committed. Is mentioning the childhood antics of his family relevant? Yes, he also does charity work and takes good care of his family, but that is not the issue of discussion here.

Naseem has committed a serious offence, and I will not condone his behaviour, regardless of his ethnic origin. If Naseem is jailed, rest assured I won't be outside the Crown Court (or wherever) campaigning for his release. If he'd driven into, and almost killed, one of my family members, I'd want him to get a jail sentence.

But I wouldn't advise you all to go shouting from the rooftops just yet. As mentioned, celebrities are usually only locked up for non-payment of taxes.

At the very least, given what has been posted about his driving technique (or lack of), a minimum of a lifetime driving ban would contribute significantly to making the roads of South Yorkshire safer for us all.

Many thanks.

burny

01-04-2006, 20:07

Naz should get a bloody long sentence in my opinion... he has near enough taken someones life. Ok he didn't kill him but fgs he could have... the pain the victim has gone through / is going through must be awful.

Its about time these bloody money grabbing "celebrities" paid for thier actions. :rant:

garryn

01-04-2006, 21:10

Am I missing something or did he not nearly kill someone

Oh, Naz's put plenty of opponents in hospital over the years

You know, I was wondering if Abdul could be serious with his views. This reinforces my view he's only here to try and wind us all up:rolleyes:

hacker

01-04-2006, 21:10

I remember waiting at a pelican crossing on Psalter Lane once with my three young daughters and Naz arrived at the crossing in his big expensive car and was revving aggressively as we crossed.

guest121

01-04-2006, 21:49

I was in the same campus as his older brother at polytech and he (allegedly, i must stress) liked his drugs and not paying for them too - slimy fellah that one!

artisan

01-04-2006, 22:09

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 23:07

Thank you for your comments, LC.

Yes, I had the dubious pleasure of knowing his family even before he was in his teens; this is not a secret. If this thread was about Naseem and the behaviour of his family, then I'd be happy to inform you all that he's from a family of childhood bullies. I'd even tell you all about how I got my revenge on his older brother.

But this thread is to do with the verdict of a major driving offence he has committed. Is mentioning the childhood antics of his family relevant? Yes, he also does charity work and takes good care of his family, but that is not the issue of discussion here.

Naseem has committed a serious offence, and I will not condone his behaviour, regardless of his ethnic origin. If Naseem is jailed, rest assured I won't be outside the Crown Court (or wherever) campaigning for his release. If he'd driven into, and almost killed, one of my family members, I'd want him to get a jail sentence.

But I wouldn't advise you all to go shouting from the rooftops just yet. As mentioned, celebrities are usually only locked up for non-payment of taxes.

At the very least, given what has been posted about his driving technique (or lack of), a minimum of a lifetime driving ban would contribute significantly to making the roads of South Yorkshire safer for us all.

Many thanks.

Abdul, I've not been able to see your view on many threads at all, but this is a very fair and well considered post which will make me listen far more receptively to your future comments.

(I have had an experience with his other brother - they are a rum bunch!)

As for likely outcome at the sentencing, I think from the judge's comments that he's up for some free food and accommodation.

hagardriley

01-04-2006, 23:10

I fully expect him to get 2 years, with 1 of them suspended. That would leave him facing the probability of only serving a maximum of 6 months inside. IMO the slimy, vile, piece of crap ought to get at least 8 years so that he can serve at least 4, but hey, we can all dream can't we.

My most abiding memory of him is from a few years ago, when he was at the height of his fame. This particular time I was in Josephines with a friend and his partner on a relatively quiet midweek evening. Hamed, who was in training for a title bout, was also there with his usual entourage of hangers on and 'minders'. He started hassling my mates partner, touching her arse & the like, and when she asked him to leave her alone he called her a slag, all this right under her blokes nose and within earshot.

In a flash my mate was on his feet (he is 19 stones of solid muscle) and the biggest minder was right up in his face & between him & the obnoxious one. The next thing anyone knew was that the minder was unconscious and Hamed had taken one punch which lifted him clean off his feet & straight over the table. Needless to say, he was also suitably unconscious.

The following day it was reported that he had broken his hand in training and the forthcoming bout had to be postponed.

OH HAPPY DAYS!

Bartfarst

01-04-2006, 23:16

Pure poetry!

But not the only example in either case. Hamed has been knocked over quite a few times in Sheffield, and he's also perved often enough - he grabbed the arse of a girl I know some while back - I guess like his convicted sex-offender brother that he has his 'issues'.

Bartfarst

02-04-2006, 16:18

Any more guesses as to his sentence? I think hagardriley will be about right, though it may be as little as 6 months and out in three.

I suppose it depends on how much of a spine the judge has.

tess667

02-04-2006, 16:28

[QUOTE=daverity he's an odious and arrogant little sod :mad:[/QUOT

Hear Hear, he wants locking up with the key being thrown away

margarete

02-04-2006, 16:29

Do you think he will be told to give a lot of money to the man he harmed so much? (in addition to jail sentence)

Bartfarst

02-04-2006, 16:48

Do you think he will be told to give a lot of money to the man he harmed so much? (in addition to jail sentence)

That will in part be dealt with through his car insurance but I suspect the answer is yes, and that there will be a further private action against him after the criminal case finishes.

kal77uk

04-04-2006, 06:14

garryn

04-04-2006, 06:58

Bartfarst

04-04-2006, 07:19

I think you take Sheffield too seriously, it is not a major player in modern society, you seemed to be obssessed with the past. People have moved on.The steelworks and Bessemer are history like World War II. The reason why Sheffield is left behind by the likes of London etc is because there is too much reliance on past glories.

What possible relevance does this have to the thread?

That aside, people talk about Sheffield on this Forum because, for most, it's their home, so Sheffield issues are important to them.
Quite how is it 'not a major player in modern society'? Comparing it with London, yes I’d have to agree we have only one capital city, London, and that like most capitals it is the centre of our national culture.
As for Sheffield, it's the 5th largest city in the UK with a population of over half a million, the steel industry is being replaced by developing technologies, and most people I come across don’t dwell in the glories of 19th century industry.

• One third of Sheffield's 36238 hectares lie within the Peak District National Park (no other UK city has part of a national park within its boundary). Another third is agricultural, with some scattered villages, and the other third is urban.
• Sheffield is England's greenest city, containing 150 woodlands and 50 substantial public parks
• Half of the City's population of over 500,000 live within 15 minutes of open countryside
• Sheffield is officially the 'safest' city in the UK (according to Government statistics) and this encourages use of the greenspaces
• A potential workforce of over 1 million people live within 1 hour's drive of the City, which makes it an attractive location for a range of employers
• Established and growing areas of expertise include metals and glass technology, biosciences, medical technology and creative industries
• Sheffield's two universities teach more than 45,000 students

Sadly, Sheffield is also home to the Hamed family, which includes our beloved Naseem, self-proclaimed Prince of Yemen :loopy: and soon to be jailed :clap: dangerous driver, which is what the thread is about.

meersbrook

04-04-2006, 09:09

**update on this hot topic**

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4864262.stm

According to my reliable sources (and the photographic evidence on the above link), he's also to be officially charged with eating all the pies.

crookesey

04-04-2006, 09:37

I have never met him but have seen him around, usually in a class car posing with his personal mafia around him.

The sentence will be within guidelines prescribed by law but should take into account the change of clothes to pass on the blame. The injured guy, who will probably never work again ought to have a claim on Naz's personal wealth but might have to go through the civil courts to get a fair judgement.

Bartfarst

04-04-2006, 09:48

I have never met him but have seen him around, usually in a class car posing with his personal mafia around him.

The sentance will be within guidelines prescribed by law but should take into account the change of clothes to pass on the blame. The injured guy, who will probably never work again ought to have a claim on Naz's personal wealth but might have to go through the civil courts to get a fair judgement.

Not just the change of clothes and leaving a guy potentially to die, but the madness of overtaking at 40mph over the speed limit across double white lines on a totally blind humpback (which is famously dangerous and he knows very well seeing as it's right outside his own front drive).

Then add the detail, according to the Forum, that his henchmen tried to lean on a farmer who witnessed him changing clothes.

It’s going to be ‘squeal piggy squeal’ in his cell.

Lindseyw

04-04-2006, 12:17

He's a pratt. enough said.
Naz is just a silly boy, with a silly buch of 'fans'

nick2

04-04-2006, 13:00

ukdavvy

04-04-2006, 13:11

I think it's awfull everyone slagging him off like this, and saying they look foreward to him getting done-over in prison, what if he, or his family, or somone who may know him, reads this thread ?

Some people can be so inconsiderate.

Inconsiderate?????

How about driving 3 up in a 2 seater, overtaking on a blind crest on a white line and having a head on with an innocent party who then almost dies and is a cripple as a result?

Oh and then legging it and trying to lie your way out of it?

Still I suppose 3 months suspended for a year should teach him :)

d

Magilla

04-04-2006, 14:20

I think it's awfull everyone slagging him off like this, and saying they look foreward to him getting done-over in prison, what if he, or his family, or somone who may know him, reads this thread ?

Some people can be so inconsiderate.

Not as inconsiderate as bouncing your car around the roads expecting other people to to avoid you crashing into them!

If he does read any of this, I would hope he now has some understanding of how truely terrible his driving is. He's (and at least one of his children) only still alive due to the dilligence of others, who are forced to swerve to avoid his abysmal driving.

I have no sympathy for him, he shouldn't be allowed to drive, he is simply incapable of doing so safely.

Sorta makes you wonder how he won any fights with such terrible hand/eye coordination!

Magilla

04-04-2006, 14:21

Inconsiderate?????

How about driving 3 up in a 2 seater, overtaking on a blind crest on a white line and having a head on with an innocent party who then almost dies and is a cripple as a result?

Oh and then legging it and trying to lie your way out of it?

Still I suppose 3 months suspended for a year should teach him :)

d

He will get a custodial sentence, I can't see how he could possibly avoid it, the charge is far too serious.

ibetyoulook

04-04-2006, 14:40

Im amazed he's got away with it for so long.
Some people would say it was only a matter of time

I've seen him on the road twice.
First time was on the M18. I reckon he must have been doing 110+. He was flying.

And the other time he wasnt actually in his car but parked in a disabled spot at crystal peaks. That was quite a few years ago.

A friend of mine was also side by side with him at some traffic lights. Nas was in the right hand lane, which was only to turn right. But of course he put his foot down and went straight-on.

What he doesnt seem to understand (apart from the highway code) is that if you drive a high profile car with a personalised number plate NAS 1, which should be A*SE 1. Then you are going to be noticed and remembered for all your misdemeanors.

I hope he's reading this as he is absolute bile. I wouldn't p**s on him if he was onfire.

nick2

04-04-2006, 14:44

I think it's awfull everyone slagging him off like this, and saying they look foreward to him getting done-over in prison, what if he, or his family, or somone who may know him, reads this thread ?

Some people can be so inconsiderate.

I was just having a laugh at the double standards on here where it's fine to slag a certain person off who is famous and unpopular without any regard for the upset it might cause his wife/parents/kids/friends but any mildly unsmpathetic comment on a thread about a completely unknown stranger gets you a flaming.

The_Sharp

04-04-2006, 14:54

I was just having a laugh at the double standards on here where it's fine to slag a certain person off who is famous and unpopular without any regard for the upset it might cause his wife/parents/kids/friends but any mildly unsmpathetic comment on a thread about a completely unknown stranger gets you a flaming.

Are you referring to your post on the 'Murder on lower manor' thread? Cos I think the difference here is that a total stranger was murdered (not a lot he can do about it) and Naz deliberately broke the law. The two can't really be compared.

But i do take your point - folk are fickle. If you AREN'T referring to that thread then fair enough.

crookesey

04-04-2006, 15:01

1Man&hisBMW

04-04-2006, 15:07

oldtimer

04-04-2006, 17:32

To someone like myself, who left Sheffield 40 years ago, and is not a fan of boxing, may I say this- Who gives a f**k about Naz, whoever he is, he seriously injured an innocent person, attempted to cover his identity, left the scene of an accident, etc. Who cares that he wrecked his toy, who cares that he is an arrogant pr**k, who cares that he is living on the glory he might have had, the bottom line is this- Do the authorities get to choose which offence is the more serious? Is there no law in place that would at least ban this moron from ever driving again? Is there no law in force that would make him pay compensation? How about a trip to a major trauma ward in a local hospital. Whoops, almost forgot, he doesn't seem to care about how many people he hurts. I think he should go to jail, and be put in the 'general population, the guys doing hard time/life would straighten him up in no time!!.

Zaytsev

04-04-2006, 20:09

I was just having a laugh at the double standards on here where it's fine to slag a certain person off who is famous and unpopular without any regard for the upset it might cause his wife/parents/kids/friends but any mildly unsmpathetic comment on a thread about a completely unknown stranger gets you a flaming.

Using your argument, any 'slagging off', as you put, of anyone famous or not who has commited a crime or acted in a way that has caused outrage and harm should be immune from criticism as their family/friends/kids etc would be upset.
Well I would like to apologise to the families of Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe, Roy Whiting and the like for any upset I have caused you by 'slagging off' your loved ones. I won't do it again honest.

:loopy:

ridgeracer

04-04-2006, 21:20

Anj1364

04-04-2006, 21:32

Is it any wonder we're decades behind Leeds and Manchester

I think not!

If guilty, Naseem should be punished, but I wonder how many of the spiteful comments about Prince Naseem on this thread, or indeed this entire forum, are to do with envy rather than justice?

No not envy, I would say anger that someone who thinks that because he won a boxing match or two is above the law and can buy or lie his way out of this one.

hagardriley

04-04-2006, 23:35

Well look at Naz now, I guess he's history.
No way he'll be back boxing at top level.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. I reckon he could end up being back boxed for quite a while. I just hope that he remembers to take his pot of grease with him for good luck. :love:

climaxchick

05-04-2006, 03:13

This has just been announced. Apparently the judge said that he may face a jail sentence.

Wasn't this obvious? Just because he's Naz doesn't mean he can get away with what happened.

nick2

05-04-2006, 08:22

crookesey

05-04-2006, 09:00

Using your argument, any 'slagging off', as you put, of anyone famous or not who has commited a crime or acted in a way that has caused outrage and harm should be immune from criticism as their family/friends/kids etc would be upset.
Well I would like to apologise to the families of Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe, Roy Whiting and the like for any upset I have caused you by 'slagging off' your loved ones. I won't do it again honest.
:loopy:

As with Naz we never slagged off the families of Huntley, Sutcliffe, Whiting and many more we did however slag off the offenders. It's them who should be apologising to their families for the upset they have brought upon them but it is unlikely that they will do so as they didn't even bother to apologise to the families of their victims.

Naz should have offered to settle a sum large enough to support his victim in comfort for the rest of his life. He didn't so lost the window of opportunity, instead he strutted to the court building flanked by his personal mafia. I am sure that he will get the maximum sentence that the law allows, if he doesn't then the law stinks.

garryn

05-04-2006, 09:48

I wouldn't be too sure about that. I reckon he could end up being back boxed for quite a while. I just hope that he remembers to take his pot of grease with him for good luck. :love:

So you reckon he could take a beating in the ring then?

garryn

05-04-2006, 09:53

I reckon 2 years, one suspended.
Driving ban for 3 years
Have to take retest
Subsequent forced used of booster cushion

beansforyou

05-04-2006, 09:54

I love this pickfork and torch "angry mob" metality, realy this case has got nothing to do with any of you but you still feel the need to have your 2-penneth and have a little dig and a little giggle and a little joke.

Sad.

Why do you think people have bought Newspapers for years?

I always find it amusing when someone tries to sound superior just because they daren't air their opinions in public, or feel it's something to be ashamed of because you have a view on a particular subject.

Even if a person isn't very good at articulating they're opinions, i'd still enjoy reading what they have to say, even when it differs from my own point of view.

If you don't like reading peoples opinions, why join a forum? :loopy:

garryn

05-04-2006, 09:55

Hold on, he was driving a Maclaren! don’t they do prams & other kiddie stuff? Think we ought to ask why he wasn’t using the booster cushion already!

nick2

05-04-2006, 10:29

I always find it amusing when someone tries to sound superior just because they daren't air their opinions in public

LOL - yeah thats what it is.

The internet is not "in public" people say stuff on here they would never dare say to the persons face (whoever it is), or in a pub full of people etc.

richardwright

05-04-2006, 10:31

Well said Beans4you. Bravo!!

crookesey

05-04-2006, 10:33

I love this pickfork and torch "angry mob" metality, realy this case has got nothing to do with any of you but you still feel the need to have your 2-penneth and have a little dig and a little giggle and a little joke.

Sad.

So what has anything to do with anyone? This Forum might as well close down working on that as it is a platform for folk to post their "2-penneth" on whatever subject they wish. If you are not interested in a particular subject it beats the hell out of me to understand why you keep posting on it.

nick2

05-04-2006, 10:35

Ok, I'll sod off, carry on with your hate-fest if it makes you feel good/clever/big or whatever, I don't want you all hammering on my door with your home made gallows.

Pook

05-04-2006, 10:37

Hold on, he was driving a Maclaren! don’t they do prams & other kiddie stuff? Think we ought to ask why he wasn’t using the booster cushion already!

He was in merc

sheffieldism

05-04-2006, 10:41

He was in merc

yeah a mercedes maclaren

garryn

05-04-2006, 10:42

He was in merc

(check out EXACTLY what car he was in):hihi:

"The three-car collision on 2 May 2005 at Ringinglow Road, Sheffield, involved Hamed's £300,000 McLaren-Mercedes. "

Pook

05-04-2006, 10:56

aye alright then. Merc bodywork though.

I'm just being pedantic. Or picky. It's up to you.

Agent Gypo

05-04-2006, 10:56

Naseem has damn near knocked me off my bike on 2 occasions when cycling at the other end of Whitely Woods. He drives like a lunatic and has a (deserved) reputation for it.

crookesey

05-04-2006, 10:57

Ok, I'll sod off, carry on with your hate-fest if it makes you feel good/clever/big or whatever, I don't want you all hammering on my door with your home made gallows.

You might as well as you seem to be a minority of one.

beansforyou

05-04-2006, 11:00

LOL - yeah thats what it is.

The internet is not "in public" people say stuff on here they would never dare say to the persons face (whoever it is), or in a pub full of people etc.

The only reason some people may not be as honest spoken and tell people exactly what they think face to face, is because some people don't have the intelligence it takes to listen to someones opinion, take it on board, and deal with it in a mature fashion, they'd rather just drag their knuckles off the floor and punch them in the face.

Theres the politeness factor also, which tends to disapear on the Internet, which IMO makes for much more substantial debate.

Personally i've never had a problem with telling anyone what I think face to face, as I don't tend to have anything to say to the type of person who couldn't listen.

Edited to add: Oh, My Naz claim to fame, I once stood next to him on The Moor as our kids were in the same carriage on the merry go round ~ I hope he gets the same treatment as anyone else would commiting the same crime.

ibetyoulook

05-04-2006, 11:29

Doesnt Nas punch people for a living.............

Maybe a good whack would sort him out

garryn

05-04-2006, 11:34

Doesnt Nas punch people for a living.............

Maybe a good whack would sort him out
Sounds like a few people have obliged in the past. Hasn’t worked.:( (or maybe there just weren’t enough or weren’t powerful enough?)

rinty

05-04-2006, 11:37

My wife could have sworn she saw him getting out of a Merc at the railway station yesterday. Getting out of the DRIVERS seat that is.

She wasn't aware of his current ban and just said to me "Guess who I saw at the station today?".

Abdul

05-04-2006, 11:38

aye alright then. Merc bodywork though.

I'm just being pedantic. Or picky. It's up to you.

The official name is Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren.

(Mercedes wanted their name putting first)

Abdul

05-04-2006, 11:44

Naseem has damn near knocked me off my bike on 2 occasions when cycling at the other end of Whitely Woods. He drives like a lunatic and has a (deserved) reputation for it.

Are you sure it was Naz?

There's another Forum user (I won't add to his already questionable ego by mntioning him) who blames Naz every time a bunch of 'sniggering Asians' in a convertible almost runs him off the road :suspect:

garryn

05-04-2006, 11:44

The official name is Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren.

(Mercedes wanted their name putting first)

Even better, my dads just got a merc 220, due to him taking out our 5 year old I know for a fact Merc do their own booster seats!

JonnH

05-04-2006, 11:49

Edited to add: Oh, My Naz claim to fame, I once stood next to him on The Moor as our kids were in the same carriage on the merry go round ~ I hope he gets the same treatment as anyone else would commiting the same crime.

I didn't realise standing next to you on a merry go round was illegal :rolleyes: :hihi:

beansforyou

05-04-2006, 11:58

I didn't realise standing next to you on a merry go round was illegal :rolleyes: :hihi:

I know I did think about that when I typed it :lol:

Agent Gypo

05-04-2006, 12:01

Are you sure it was Naz?

There's another Forum user (I won't add to his already questionable ego by mntioning him) who blames Naz every time a bunch of 'sniggering Asians' in a convertible almost runs him off the road :suspect:

Nah it was definitely Naz, I recognised his car as he lives (or used to live) quite close to me. I used to see him alot around Ecclesall Road and Abbeydale Road.

Abdul

05-04-2006, 12:03

Nah it was definitely Naz, I recognised his car as he lives (or used to live) quite close to me. I used to see him alot around Ecclesall Road and Abbeydale Road.

Yep, that and the numberplate :D

sheffieldism

05-04-2006, 13:35

aye alright then. Merc bodywork though.

I'm just being pedantic. Or picky. It's up to you.

i think Mclaren had a big part in the bodywork too, although VW had an effect with naz's mclaren.

rinty

05-04-2006, 13:52

The official name is Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren.

(Mercedes wanted their name putting first)

Top Gear christened it the McMerc :)

Abdul

05-04-2006, 14:04

Top Gear christened it the McMerc :)

I'm surprised McCedes, er, I mean, Mercedes didn't sue the BBC :o

Both they (and BMW) are known for contacting motoring magazines with snotty letters every time their vehicles receive unfavourable reviews.

Zaytsev

05-04-2006, 17:11

As with Naz we never slagged off the families of Huntley, Sutcliffe, Whiting and many more we did however slag off the offenders. It's them who should be apologising to their families for the upset they have brought upon them but it is unlikely that they will do so as they didn't even bother to apologise to the families of their victims.

Naz should have offered to settle a sum large enough to support his victim in comfort for the rest of his life. He didn't so lost the window of opportunity, instead he strutted to the court building flanked by his personal mafia. I am sure that he will get the maximum sentence that the law allows, if he doesn't then the law stinks.

I suggest you read my reply to nick2 again. My sarcasm has clearly been lost on you:suspect:

Abdul

05-04-2006, 20:54

The knocking of achievements however long ago is a little churlish on your part. I suggest a little resrach on some of the names on my list, especially the engineering one, and you may realise that we have alot to be thankful for.

Sorry, I missed this comment the first time around. Yes, I am aware of the real contributions to the World made by great Captains of Industry in Sheffield, and have expressed my gratitude as shown on these old forum threads:

History of Attercliffe (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5104)
Benjamin Huntsman (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8989) and
History of Firth Park (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8561)

I just don't think the musicians and sportspeople you mention, some of whom may have only loose connections to our city, will ever compare to those historical figures who made Sheffield famous worldwide, or indeed made Sheffield.

I would also put forward that Sean Bean is a more famous Sheffielder than Naz.

I don't know. Are we talking nationally or globally? Sean Bean might be more famous, but I would argue that more people know that Naz is from Sheffield.

garryn

05-04-2006, 21:27

Sean Bean might be more famous, but I would argue that more people know that Naz is from Sheffield.

And isn't he now a marvelous advert :loopy: showing the rest of the world the sort of person that comes out of the Steel City:huh:

guess_me

05-04-2006, 21:36

you are just jelous because he is asian and has made somwthing with his life

Abdul

05-04-2006, 21:36

And isn't he now a marvelous advert :loopy: showing the rest of the world the sort of person that comes out of the Steel City:huh:

Really? Forgive me, I must have been asleep for the last 13 pages of this thread :roll:

PS - your 'Subsequent forced use of booster cushion' remark made me giggle :hihi:

Abdul

05-04-2006, 21:42

you are just jelous because he is asian and has made somwthing with his life

Yeah, I was sorta thinking that ;) (a JOKE, people :roll:)

Anyway, a lot of the criticisms of Naz' driving ability were along the lines of:

· Illegal turns
· Parking in disabled bay
· Holding up traffic stream without good reason
· Driving too close to cars in front
· Driving without due care and attention

Fellow Sheffielders, all I can say in Naz' defence is... have you never driven through Sheffield 4 and 5?

Those of us on the Dark Side of the City have to put up with these dangers every day :loopy: :D

garryn

06-04-2006, 07:03

you are just jelous because he is asian and has made somwthing with his life

Being a heterosexual, caucasian, male who has previously been forced out of a job, for standing up to racism, sexism and homophobia in a company. I find your statement unfounded and offensive.

Please highlight any point in my previous posts to back up your position.

garryn

06-04-2006, 07:16

[QUOTE=the_rudeboy]:D I once saw him come over Ladys Bridge and illegally turn right onto Blonk Street cutting everyone up. QUOTE]

I'll agree that a lot of what is coming out is a public dislike for Naz. But a lot of this is down to the man himself. Its his disregard for others. In the same way we'd get P.O'd at a neighbour having music on all day and all night.

We have examples of his driving that show this. We have examples of his public behaviour which show this.

His arrogance in the ring was both funny and amazing to see. However, when he continues to show the same arrogance in his everyday public life, its bound to have repercussions.

garryn

06-04-2006, 07:21

Can anyone here say that if:

1. they put themselves in the position of Mr Burgin, (all the injuries, operations, long term complications, inability to work, distress to family).
2. Look at the actions of Naz that caused the incident and his actions after

You could look at a non custodial sentence as justice?

RazorSHarp

06-04-2006, 07:33

You could look at a non custodial sentence as justice?

You could but I think the courts may be looking at past convictions and Naz's inability to follow the highway code. Just because he was ponced about in a ring wearing gold shorts doesn't make him immune to our criminal justice system.

If he had run into you and put you in hospital, I doubt you'd be asking for anything less

garryn

06-04-2006, 07:34

Zaytsev

06-04-2006, 15:54

You could but I think the courts may be looking at past convictions and Naz's inability to follow the highway code. Just because he was ponced about in a ring wearing gold shorts doesn't make him immune to our criminal justice system.

If he had run into you and put you in hospital, I doubt you'd be asking for anything less

While I condemn Naz for his actions relating to this case and think he acted deplorably after the event, the references to his ring career and in particular the quoted post show no appreciation for the dedication, hard work and courage required to step through the ropes in arguably the toughest of sports. Lets us also not forget that he did reach the pinnacle of the sport and that is not done by 'poncing around in gold shorts'. If you think that is all that is required may I suggest you don a pair of spangly shorts and proceed to make millions from your efforts while providing great entertainment.